PipeChat Digest #2461 - Friday, October 26, 2001
 
RE: rollschweller/crescendo/free combinations
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: Piston dependency
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Great temperament site
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Langlais's typos
  by "Randy Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
RE: David's Soapbox....
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE: rollschweller/crescendo/free combinations
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: ALL READ
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
 

(back) Subject: RE: rollschweller/crescendo/free combinations From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:39:30 -0400   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C15E34.673EBE00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   Hi Steve, Well you won't here from me anymore, I've just been thrown off the = pipechat list. I just wanted to get back to you with reference to your message = below. Thank you so much for he HR organ update. It's great to hear that they'd allow me to play. As for the part about not playing until after 3, that actually started around the time I was taking lessons. Up until around the end of 1967 Charlie (whom I never called that but Mr. Walker) told me that the school had made a request that his students not practice or practice "softle" during school hours because it disrupted classes. How we got = around that was since I had no access to an organ and I preferred before 3 pm I used the chapel organ. At times I'd go to practice after 3 especially as = my recital date approached. Goodness, is he 83! I haven't seen him since that last day which was my recital. I've never kept in touch. But I've never forgotten him. He was a huge influence on my musical studies and of course the organ in particular. I probably should have expressed that to him. I just always thought teachers would rather just hear from their "top-notch" students but that's a silly thought. I never met his family but am sorry = to hear of his wife's death. Those lights for the swell and crescendo shoes is a great help, to me they were at least. So the console no long sits in the hall but is actually in the sanctuary? I had read, maybe on the AGO NYC Chapter NYC Organs page, that the walls were coated with that sealant. I must come up to hear the organ some day. Do you folks offer organ recitals? If so would you let me know when? You can send me an e-mail if you keep my address because I = won't be on the list any more. I was told I was evil and if I continued to be so = I would be removed from the pipechat list to which I told them to remove me because I don't want to be associated with a NAZI list. To which I shall take this opportunity to apologize to you directly if I in any way = offended you via that list. It was not an intentional endeavor. Best wishes to you, Robert Colasacco -----Original Message----- From: OrganNYC@aol.com [mailto:OrganNYC@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 4:11 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: rollschweller/crescendo/free combinations     In a message dated 10/25/01 2:19:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org writes:         The crescendo at Heavenly Rest in NYC (pre-fire) had light indicators. = There   were little lights in a row that lit up one at a time from left to right = as one opened further the crescendo. In fact, I think they were there for the =   Swell shades as well on the Choir, Swell and Solo divisions. But that was = a great feature to know that the crescendo was up 1/4 or 1/2 or 3/4 or = however   much open. Robert Colasacco         The present 5-manual console at Church of the Heavenly Rest, built by Guilbault-Therien in 1993, retains the green lights for the 4 swell shoes. I think there are about 8 lights for each shoe. The Crescendo indicator = is a digital readout, located on the upper left corner of the right stop = jamb. Crescendo selector switches (Standard, A, B, C) are on the left stop jamb with the rest of the SSL controls.   Steve Lawson Assistant, Church of the Heavenly Rest   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C15E34.673EBE00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1">     <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond = color=3D#800000>Hi Steve, </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond color=3D#800000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond = color=3D#800000>Well you won't here from me anymore, I've just been thrown off the pipechat list. I = just wanted to get back to you with reference to your message below. Thank you = so much for he HR organ update. It's great to hear that they'd allow me to = play. As for the part about not playing until after 3, that actually started around = the time I was taking lessons. Up until around the end of 1967 Charlie (whom I = never called that but Mr. Walker) told me that the school had made&nbsp;a = request that his students not practice or practice "softle" during school hours because = it disrupted classes. How we got around that was since I had no access to an = organ and I preferred before 3 pm I used the chapel organ. At times I'd go to = practice after 3 especially as my recital date approached. Goodness, is he 83! I = haven't seen him since that last day which was my recital. I've never kept in = touch. But I've never forgotten him. He was a huge influence on my musical studies = and of course the organ in particular. I probably should have expressed that to = him. I just always thought teachers would rather just hear from their "top-notch" =   students but that's a silly thought. I never met his family but am sorry = to hear of his wife's death.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond color=3D#800000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond = color=3D#800000>Those lights for the swell and crescendo shoes is a great help, to me they were = at least. So the console no long sits in the hall but is actually in the = sanctuary? I had read, maybe on the AGO NYC Chapter NYC Organs page, that the walls = were coated with that sealant. I must come up to hear the organ some day. Do = you folks offer organ recitals? If so would you let me know when? You can send = me an e-mail if you keep my address because I won't be on the list any more. I = was told I was evil and if I continued to be so&nbsp;I would be removed from = the pipechat list to which I told them to remove me because I don't want to be =   associated with a NAZI list. To which I shall take this opportunity to = apologize to you directly if I in any way offended you via that list. It was not an intentional endeavor.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond color=3D#800000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond = color=3D#800000>Best wishes to you,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond = color=3D#800000>Robert Colasacco</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond color=3D#800000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond color=3D#800000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond color=3D#800000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond color=3D#800000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> OrganNYC@aol.com [mailto:OrganNYC@aol.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 25, 2001 4:11 PM<BR><B>To:</B> pipechat@pipechat.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: rollschweller/crescendo/free combinations<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DVerdana color=3D#030025 = size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a message dated 10/25/01 2:19:39 PM Eastern = Daylight Time, RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org writes: <BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE=3D"CITE">The crescendo at Heavenly Rest in NYC (pre-fire) had light indicators. There <BR>were little lights in a row that lit up one at a = time from left to right as <BR>one opened further the crescendo. In fact, I = think they were there for the <BR>Swell shades as well on the Choir, Swell and Solo divisions. But that was a <BR>great feature to know that the crescendo = was up 1/4 or 1/2 or 3/4 or however <BR>much open. <BR>Robert Colasacco <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DVerdana color=3D#030025 = size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>The present 5-manual console at Church of the = Heavenly Rest, built by Guilbault-Therien in 1993, retains the green lights for the = 4 swell shoes. &nbsp;I think there are about 8 lights for each shoe. = &nbsp;The Crescendo indicator is a digital readout, located on the upper left corner = of the right stop jamb. &nbsp;Crescendo selector switches (Standard, A, B, C) = are on the left stop jamb with the rest of the SSL controls. <BR><BR>Steve = Lawson <BR>Assistant, Church of the Heavenly Rest</FONT> </FONT></BODY></HTML>   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C15E34.673EBE00--  
(back) Subject: Re: Piston dependency From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:41:40 EDT     --part1_33.1cf7fa2d.290ade34_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 10/26/01 7:37:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, thoehn@theatreorgans.com writes:     > Ain't got no Reuter's at First Methodist. It's a Wicks/Ruffati/Rodgers = in >   There was one in a big Methodist church (years ago) when I was a child (I = wuz once, ya know!!!). I remember the building being very plain and the = facade mirrored this wonderfully..... 16 pipe in center going down to little = ones on the ends. Must have taken years to work that out!!! heeheehee Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi     --part1_33.1cf7fa2d.290ade34_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 10/26/01 7:37:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, thoehn@theatreorgans.com = writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ain't got no = Reuter's at First Methodist. &nbsp;It's a Wicks/Ruffati/Rodgers in the = main sanctuary.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>There was one in a big Methodist church (years ago) when I was a child = (I wuz once, ya know!!!). &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I remember the building being = very plain and the facade mirrored this wonderfully..... &nbsp;16 pipe in = center going down to little ones on the ends. &nbsp;Must have taken years = to work that out!!! &nbsp;heeheehee <BR>Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_33.1cf7fa2d.290ade34_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Great temperament site From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:52:39 EDT     --part1_143.3a83f97.290ae0c7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Here's a great toy, albeit very complicated to play with. It's a Java = applet that simulates many historical tunings. Have fun!   <A HREF=3D"http://pages.globetrotter.net/roule/accord.htm">JavaTuner</A>   (Had to leave it in HTML to preserve the link - sorry)   Vicki   --part1_143.3a83f97.290ae0c7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Here's a great toy, = albeit very complicated to play with. &nbsp;It's a Java applet that = simulates many historical tunings. &nbsp;Have fun! <BR> <BR> <A = HREF=3D"http://pages.globetrotter.net/roule/accord.htm">JavaTuner</A> <BR> <BR>(Had to leave it in HTML to preserve the link - sorry) <BR> <BR>Vicki </FONT></HTML>   --part1_143.3a83f97.290ae0c7_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Langlais's typos From: "Randy Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:04:51 -0500   > >PS and yes, you're right, as soon as I purchase the new $1000 copy, I'll >find the old one with the corrections that my professor provided me with. >Seems the original publication had two typos and he knew that because he = was >a close friend of Langlais.   There are a lot of typos in Langlais's music, I was told by Mme Langlais. Jean Langlais, being blind, played the music and someone copied it down. Langlais did not go over the written-down version himself (how could he, being blind); apparently some of the time he listened to someone play from the written-down version to check it for accuracy. But lots of errors were not caught. I found some obvious ones in the "Prelude sur les grands jeux," the first work in the "Suite francaise."   It's rather frustrating, as Langlais's music plays with dissonance some of the time anyway. You have to try to determine just how dissonant certain passages are supposed to be.   Randy Runyon runyonr@muohio.edu Music Director Zion Lutheran Church, Hamilton, Ohio  
(back) Subject: RE: David's Soapbox.... From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:45:23 -0400   He didn't to me either.   -----Original Message----- From: Joshua F. Edwards [mailto:fbcorganist@att.net] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:09 AM To: PipeChat Subject: David's Soapbox....     I'm sorry but I don't remember any subtle "advice" or hint from David to = any of these people the past few days... unless he did it privately. David = gets mad at us for being rude, and he himself was very rude..... I find that untactful...   Josh in TN     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: RE: rollschweller/crescendo/free combinations From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:47:06 -0400   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C15E4E.9C807990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   Steve. I have no idea how this got back to the list. I sent it to your address only. I'm sorry for that. Robert Colasacco -----Original Message----- From: COLASACCO, ROBERT [mailto:RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:40 AM To: 'PipeChat' Subject: RE: rollschweller/crescendo/free combinations     Hi Steve, Well you won't here from me anymore, I've just been thrown off the = pipechat list. I just wanted to get back to you with reference to your message = below. Thank you so much for he HR organ update. It's great to hear that they'd allow me to play. As for the part about not playing until after 3, that actually started around the time I was taking lessons. Up until around the end of 1967 Charlie (whom I never called that but Mr. Walker) told me that the school had made a request that his students not practice or practice "softle" during school hours because it disrupted classes. How we got = around that was since I had no access to an organ and I preferred before 3 pm I used the chapel organ. At times I'd go to practice after 3 especially as = my recital date approached. Goodness, is he 83! I haven't seen him since that last day which was my recital. I've never kept in touch. But I've never forgotten him. He was a huge influence on my musical studies and of course the organ in particular. I probably should have expressed that to him. I just always thought teachers would rather just hear from their "top-notch" students but that's a silly thought. I never met his family but am sorry = to hear of his wife's death. Those lights for the swell and crescendo shoes is a great help, to me they were at least. So the console no long sits in the hall but is actually in the sanctuary? I had read, maybe on the AGO NYC Chapter NYC Organs page, that the walls were coated with that sealant. I must come up to hear the organ some day. Do you folks offer organ recitals? If so would you let me know when? You can send me an e-mail if you keep my address because I = won't be on the list any more. I was told I was evil and if I continued to be so = I would be removed from the pipechat list to which I told them to remove me because I don't want to be associated with a NAZI list. To which I shall take this opportunity to apologize to you directly if I in any way = offended you via that list. It was not an intentional endeavor. Best wishes to you, Robert Colasacco -----Original Message----- From: OrganNYC@aol.com [mailto:OrganNYC@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 4:11 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: rollschweller/crescendo/free combinations     In a message dated 10/25/01 2:19:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org writes:         The crescendo at Heavenly Rest in NYC (pre-fire) had light indicators. = There   were little lights in a row that lit up one at a time from left to right = as one opened further the crescendo. In fact, I think they were there for the =   Swell shades as well on the Choir, Swell and Solo divisions. But that was = a great feature to know that the crescendo was up 1/4 or 1/2 or 3/4 or = however   much open. Robert Colasacco         The present 5-manual console at Church of the Heavenly Rest, built by Guilbault-Therien in 1993, retains the green lights for the 4 swell shoes. I think there are about 8 lights for each shoe. The Crescendo indicator = is a digital readout, located on the upper left corner of the right stop = jamb. Crescendo selector switches (Standard, A, B, C) are on the left stop jamb with the rest of the SSL controls.   Steve Lawson Assistant, Church of the Heavenly Rest   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C15E4E.9C807990 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1">     <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D192294618-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond = color=3D#800000>Steve. I have no idea how this got back to the list. I sent it to your address = only. I'm sorry for that.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D192294618-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond = color=3D#800000>Robert Colasacco</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> COLASACCO, ROBERT [mailto:RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 26, = 2001 11:40 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'PipeChat'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: rollschweller/crescendo/free combinations<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond = color=3D#800000>Hi Steve, </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond color=3D#800000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond = color=3D#800000>Well you won't here from me anymore, I've just been thrown off the pipechat list. I = just wanted to get back to you with reference to your message below. Thank you = so much for he HR organ update. It's great to hear that they'd allow me to = play. As for the part about not playing until after 3, that actually started around = the time I was taking lessons. Up until around the end of 1967 Charlie (whom I = never called that but Mr. Walker) told me that the school had made&nbsp;a = request that his students not practice or practice "softle" during school hours because = it disrupted classes. How we got around that was since I had no access to an = organ and I preferred before 3 pm I used the chapel organ. At times I'd go to = practice after 3 especially as my recital date approached. Goodness, is he 83! I = haven't seen him since that last day which was my recital. I've never kept in = touch. But I've never forgotten him. He was a huge influence on my musical studies = and of course the organ in particular. I probably should have expressed that to = him. I just always thought teachers would rather just hear from their "top-notch" =   students but that's a silly thought. I never met his family but am sorry = to hear of his wife's death.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond color=3D#800000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond = color=3D#800000>Those lights for the swell and crescendo shoes is a great help, to me they were = at least. So the console no long sits in the hall but is actually in the = sanctuary? I had read, maybe on the AGO NYC Chapter NYC Organs page, that the walls = were coated with that sealant. I must come up to hear the organ some day. Do = you folks offer organ recitals? If so would you let me know when? You can send = me an e-mail if you keep my address because I won't be on the list any more. I = was told I was evil and if I continued to be so&nbsp;I would be removed from = the pipechat list to which I told them to remove me because I don't want to be =   associated with a NAZI list. To which I shall take this opportunity to = apologize to you directly if I in any way offended you via that list. It was not an intentional endeavor.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond color=3D#800000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond = color=3D#800000>Best wishes to you,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond = color=3D#800000>Robert Colasacco</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond color=3D#800000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond color=3D#800000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond color=3D#800000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D299062215-26102001><FONT face=3DGaramond color=3D#800000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> OrganNYC@aol.com [mailto:OrganNYC@aol.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 25, 2001 4:11 PM<BR><B>To:</B> pipechat@pipechat.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: rollschweller/crescendo/free combinations<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DVerdana color=3D#030025 = size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a message dated 10/25/01 2:19:39 PM Eastern = Daylight Time, RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org writes: <BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE=3D"CITE">The crescendo at Heavenly Rest in NYC (pre-fire) had light indicators. There <BR>were little lights in a row that lit up one at a = time from left to right as <BR>one opened further the crescendo. In fact, I = think they were there for the <BR>Swell shades as well on the Choir, Swell and = Solo divisions. But that was a <BR>great feature to know that the crescendo = was up 1/4 or 1/2 or 3/4 or however <BR>much open. <BR>Robert Colasacco <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DVerdana color=3D#030025 = size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>The present 5-manual console at Church of the = Heavenly Rest, built by Guilbault-Therien in 1993, retains the green lights for the = 4 swell shoes. &nbsp;I think there are about 8 lights for each shoe. = &nbsp;The Crescendo indicator is a digital readout, located on the upper left corner = of the right stop jamb. &nbsp;Crescendo selector switches (Standard, A, B, C) = are on the left stop jamb with the rest of the SSL controls. <BR><BR>Steve = Lawson <BR>Assistant, Church of the Heavenly Rest</FONT> </FONT></BODY></HTML>   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C15E4E.9C807990--  
(back) Subject: Re: ALL READ From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 15:19:32 -0400   Robert said:   > I'd rather not be on a NAZI list. Do remove me. > Robert Colasacco > Tim said:   > So, we'll try the next level. Naming names, and being rude. > > ROBERT COLASACCO > BUD CLARK > PAUL EMMONS > (these 3 simply representing today's egregious offenders...there are = more > names that could be easily included in this list..., if I looked back a day > or two in the Archives)   And I say, for what it is worth:   I was really tremendously upset at seeing Tim's posting, with three = esteemed members publically ridiculed. It gave me a real chill. Tim is a good = friend, who perhaps had more reason to be ticked off than I am aware of, and, of course, I have never seen the list in Digest form, which I believe is part of the problem with all the extra stuff some people carelessly leave at = the end of a posting replying to another. I gather this makes the business of reading the digest interminable. And I don't know the extent to which Tim and/or David might have tried a personal letter approach to the three = people explaining with care the nature of the complaint, the reason for it, and some word about how to deal with it. Bud's followup posting made clear = that he had no idea what the fuss was about, and he ain't stupid.   My concern is that this involves three really important and colorful = posters on this list. I value Paul's postings a great deal because of the depth of scholarship and experience he brings to them. Bud has an almost = encyclopedic knowledge of the history and practice of church music - he has "been around," and I regularly learn from his contributions. Robert has = gradually revealed more of his interesting past and has bared his soul concerning = much that he knows and is not afraid to do the same with what he does not know, and I, for one, have valued his contributions to the list.   My concern is that we not lose three of the more colorful contributors to this list on a technicality. The list is nothing more than the sum of its people, and its interest and quality comes from no other source. PipOrg-L has erred in both directions. It has actually lost excellent people = because it did *not* enforce the regulations sufficiently, and those brilliant, = and I do mean brilliant, people got bored with all the off-topic stuff. It has also removed on a very few occasions some people who added a great deal to the list. Orgue-L, the English list, which began as a stated alternative = to PipOrg-L, which was thought to be too chatty and off topic, is very strict about who may belong and about what they may say, and it is practically moribund, coming to life briefly once a month or so. That is not meant to = be taken as any kind of comment about it.   I guess I am being a bit of a busybody (I am too old and decrepit to be a busy body) in saying, Tim, that ridiculing publically those who have a big part in making this list what it is need to be treated with the utmost courtesy, and I really do believe, pain in the backside though it be, a personal letter making clear the seriousness of your concern would be the better way. With all three addresses on one letter, that exercise would = take no more time than a public posting.   This, my own opinion only for what it is worth, is written with sincere thanks for what you and David do to make this list possible. I feel = certain it is not easy.   Malcolm