PipeChat Digest #2355 - Saturday, September 8, 2001
 
Recital Announcement: Macon, GA (X-posted)
  by "Stephen F. P. Karr" <karr_sf@acadmn.mercer.edu>
Re: Chartres Cathedral
  by "John Cormack" <jcorm@bellatlantic.net>
Recital announcement: Ottumwa, IA (X-posted)
  by "Stephen F. P. Karr" <karr_sf@acadmn.mercer.edu>
INSURANCE Valuation/Coverage of Pipe Organs
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Chartres Cathedral
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Brahms' "How Lovely" (X-posted)
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: setting a value on a pipe organ
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Brahms' "How Lovely" (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: Recital Announcement: Macon, GA (X-posted) From: "Stephen F. P. Karr" <karr_sf@acadmn.mercer.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 20:32:01 -0400   Dear lists,   I am writing to announce a recital that I will be playing at the church where I am organist/choirmaster.   Stephen Karr, organist Sunday, 23 September 2001 4:30 P. M. Northminster Presbyterian Church Macon, Georgia   ---Program---   Ives: Variations on America Franck: Fantasie in C Major Bach: "Suite" in E minor Prelude in E minor Sonata IV in E minor Adagio; Vivace Andante Un Poco Allegro Fugue in E minor (the "Wedge") Sowerby: Passacaglia from Symphony in G   The instrument is a Zimmer (approximately 25-30 ranks. . .I can never remember) that works very nicely in the church's acoustic. If you'd like to come and need directions, I'd be happy to tell you how to get there. If you do come, please be sure to introduce yourself afterwards.   -Stephen Karr    
(back) Subject: Re: Chartres Cathedral From: "John Cormack" <jcorm@bellatlantic.net> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 20:31:24 -0400   The web site is in Japan.   Need some one tri lingual.   > It would be a much better site if an english speaking person instead of > someone who thinks they know english translated it from the french: "Robinet > Leboucher goes up toParis in one's turn." > "The repair of the Organ is not proven." WHAT!!!   -- John Cormack    
(back) Subject: Recital announcement: Ottumwa, IA (X-posted) From: "Stephen F. P. Karr" <karr_sf@acadmn.mercer.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 20:38:58 -0400   Hello, all.   If you read my last announcement, all you need to know is that it will be at First Presbyterian in Ottumwa on 30 September 2001 at 4:00 P. M.   Stephen Karr, organist First Presbyterian Church Ottumwa, Iowa 4:00 P. M.   ---Program---   Ives: Variations on America Franck: Fantasie in C Major Bach: "Suite" in E minor Prelude in E minor Sonata IV in E minor Adagio; Vivace Andante Un Poco Allegro Fugue in E minor (the "Wedge") Sowerby: Passacaglia from Symphony in G   This is the winner's recital from the annual undergraduate competition that is held in Ottumwa every March. The organ is a Tellers of three manuals, but I am not sure how many ranks are on it. The acoustic is wonderful in there, and I believe they'll even be taking out the pew cushions, so it should be even better. Since I do not know the Ottumwa area well at all, I suppose you should ask Mapquest for directions instead of me if you plan to come. The address is 228 West Fourth Street in Ottumwa. Please introduce yourself to me afterward if you do come. I would be pleased to meet any of you.   -Stephen Karr    
(back) Subject: INSURANCE Valuation/Coverage of Pipe Organs From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 22:43:00 EDT   Dear Mr. Mead:   Since you are getting an estimate for insurance, you are getting an = estimate for REPLACEMENT VALUE. Please make sure that you are getting replacement value, and not "depreciated value of machinery" categorization, or = whatever might be suggested by a carrier.   "LOSS OF USE INSURANCE" is another item many people forget about; it can cover things like renting a box portative, grand piano, or digitally simulated organ as an interim instrument. It is akin to the loss of use rider on your homeowner's insurance, which pays for hotel bills and the = like during relocation or rebuilding.   A good insurance policy also covers choir vestments and the critically expensive and costly to replace (in time and funds) music library. I know =   this because I just went through this with a client, and was overjoyed at = the exceptionally full and detailed coverage for all of the aforementioned. = It made the process of dealing with the catastrophe MUCH easier.   You are correct in that 20,000-22,000 per rank from a fine builder in the United States is a fair replacement value. If you insure for less, you = will be forced to either comission a smaller instrument (should the eventuality =   arise), or get an inferior instrument from somebody willing to slap = together an organ for very little funds. Next to the building itself, the pipe = organ is usually the most valuable asset any congregation has, whether they appreciate it or not.   Sebastian Matthaus Gluck Tonal Director GLUCK NEW YORK Restorers and Builders  
(back) Subject: Re: Chartres Cathedral From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 23:00:07 EDT   Dearest Sirs who are speaking:   That you should think only that it is such a translation that for us is = the thing; only that for such infallability the organ person can say so of himself.   The words of language, as many know, function as a bladder through soul of =   making music as a conceptual. That is to say, that by 1786, Chartres was = not only being a hovercraft, but that the organist was hosting yams. The King =   was sometime of making war for drycleaning elevators, so that frequently museums are closed on Monday.   When we using language, we pray only that people perceive in incremental cheese sandwiches the nuance; otherwise communicating French organs, perchance, marry the otters of yesteryear.   Dr. Nendo Pardi Institute Spleen  
(back) Subject: Re: Brahms' "How Lovely" (X-posted) From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 23:29:25 EDT   Dear Bud-by-the-Beach:   You're not crazy. In fact, the frequent singing of the Brahms at Temple Emanu-El on High Holy Days has raised a few eyebrows, since people see "Requiem" before they see "TEXT." A beautiful, appropriate work. Mr. Tillman has never hired instrumentalists for it, but I seem to recall = him using one of the the four soaring, liquid open flutes on the organ for the =   signature descending line. A good instrument will help you orchestrate = it, and you can listen to a recording and pick out what you feel are the most important instrumental soloists for you to hire. It really depends upon whether you wish to show off the organ's capabilities, or the church's instrumentalist budget. Incidentally, we've retained those four flutes in the new organ, and have added two more open 8' flutes: a wooden open flute on the Great, which we =   found in storage, and was original to the 1929 organ, but discarded in the =   1950s; and the Skinner Principal Flute 8' (partial) from Trinity College Hartford, which has been placed in the Swell. The Skinner rank replaces = the now-gone 8' Flute Harmonique that was in the original specification, which =   was replaced in the 1950s by a Quintadena, which went unused for many decades. The recently completed Swell reads as follows (stops are 1929 Casavant unless inidicated):   Pressures are 8" and 10"* (indicated by asterisk)   16' Bourdon Doux, 73, Pine 8' Open Diapason, 73, Lead 8' Stopped Diapason, 73, Pine, pierced stoppers 8' Flute Harmonique, 73, 50% Tin (pipes 20-49 AEolian-Skinner, remainder Gluck) 8' Viole de Gambe, 73, 50% Tin 8' Voix Celeste, 73, 50% Tin 8' AEoline, 73, 50% Tin 8' Flute Conique, 73, 35% Tin 8' Flute Celeste, 73, 35% Tin 4' Principal, 73, 35% Tin 4' Violina, 73, 35% Tin 4' Flauto Traverso, 73, Pine (Harmonic) 2' Piccolo, 61, 35% Tin I-II rk Sesquialtera, 110, 35% Tin (Gluck) III-IV rk Full Mixture, 214, 50% Tin (Gluck)* III rk Clear Mixture, 183, 35% and 50% Tin (Gluck) 16' Bombarde Harmonique, 73, 50% Tin (Gluck)* 8' Trompette Harmonique, 73, 50% Tin (Gluck)* 8' Hautbois, 73, 50% Tin (Casavant pipes, coned-in French bells by Gluck) 8' Voix Humaine, 73, Lead 4' Clairon Harmonique, 73, 50% Tin (Gluck)* Tremulant Celesta (from Choir organ) Transfer Ventils: Orchestral String Ensemble on Swell Tuba Organ to Swell Echo Organ to Swell Plus the usual couplers, including the Choir to Swell at three pitches   Seb  
(back) Subject: Re: setting a value on a pipe organ From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 23:31:37 -0500   It depends a lot who is doing the replacing. Some firms currently charge = as little as $10,000 a rank, and others as much as $25,000. $30,000 per rank seems a little on the high side. Normally one would expect the range to = be between about $110,000 and $265,000. Probably the best compromise is to get the organbuilders who currently service the instrument to send you a letter valuing it according to how much a rank they charge.   John Speller   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > We bought an 11-rank Moller of 1966 last January for our new church, > which is presently under construction. Disassembled and stored, it is > insured for $300K. That's on the high side for replacement value (I > really should stop praying for a fire at the storage place) (grin), but > there is at least one American builder who's presently charging $30K per > rank. > > I would say $18K-$25K is closer to the average. > > As friend Severin mentions, if the organ includes more full-length 16's > and/or ANY 32's, you probably should take the higher figure. > > Cheers, > > Bud-by-the-Beach > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Brahms' "How Lovely" (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 21:55:31 -0700       TubaMagna@aol.com wrote:   > Dear Bud-by-the-Beach: > > You're not crazy. In fact, the frequent singing of the Brahms at Temple > Emanu-El on High Holy Days has raised a few eyebrows, since people see > "Requiem" before they see "TEXT." A beautiful, appropriate work. > Mr. Tillman has never hired instrumentalists for it, but I seem to = recall him > using one of the the four soaring, liquid open flutes on the organ for = the > signature descending line. A good instrument will help you orchestrate = it, > and you can listen to a recording and pick out what you feel are the = most > important instrumental soloists for you to hire. It really depends upon > whether you wish to show off the organ's capabilities, or the church's > instrumentalist budget.   Oh, that I HAD an organ to show off ... sigh ... the contract still hasn't = been signed; the BUILDING will be finished and blessed around Passover/Easter = 2002; THAT'S what the Brahms is for, and not having an organ is why I was = thinking of a small instrumental ensemble to accompany it. I can't BEAR the thought of = Brahms accompanied by the Robbie-the-Robot bleeps and twitters of a you-know-what (grin). It would be better to do it with piano, strings and woodwinds.   Cheers,   Bud