PipeChat Digest #2367 - Thursday, September 13, 2001
 
A view from (near) Ground Zero
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Calliope Music
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: A view from (near) Ground Zero
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
Re: A view from (near) Ground Zero
  by <JerryM8319@aol.com>
Re: A view from (near) Ground Zero
  by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Re: A view from (near) Ground Zero
  by <Tspiggle@aol.com>
Appropriate Music Suggestion
  by "Dellamano Music Publishing" <marybeth@dellamanomusic.com>
Re: Appropriate Music Suggestion
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Infamy Sunday; St.Vincent's Houston
  by "Daryel Nance" <DNance@svdp-edu.org>
RE: another tribute
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net>
Re: A view from (near) Ground Zero
  by "Mandy Glass" <amadpoet@lycos.com>
 

(back) Subject: A view from (near) Ground Zero From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:03:06 EDT   Dear Listers:   Although I said that I might not be in a posting mood, I do not know what kind of coverage you're getting, and from what I've seen on television, it = is not really possible to fathom the enormity of this. The news has focused = on a the two large towers, when in reality, many buildings, as high as 70-odd =   stories, have collapsed, and even those which remain standing have been blasted out into hollow shells of dust and shattered glass, with nothing inside at all recognizable or salvageable.   Caverns of debris, buildings at odd angles, and streets piled many stories =   deep with bodies, body parts, rubble, and vehicles, are completely = unpassable to rescue crews. Fires continue to burn, and collapses, large and small, = are a constant threat.   Every Rescue Squad in the City of New York has been killed. Gone. We feel totally vulnerable. FDNY's top officials, as well as their = Chaplain, were killed as well. Nearly three hundred firefighters were murdered in = this attack, rushing into danger as the victims fled for their lives.   This morning's daily visit to the firehouse brought me the news that a twelfth member of the unit had perished. As you know, both NYPD and FDNY = are multigenerational, family jobs, so that husbands, brothers, fathers, = uncles, nephews, are all waiting to hear, with little hope.   There is very little room or way to get around, there is so much rubble. Huge skyscrapers toppled into the streets, millions of tons of steel and concrete, and the thousands of bodies still inside. Needless to say, the odor has become gruesome and pervasive at this end of the island, and it = may be weeks before they can get to the all of the bodies.   The most heartbreaking horror was to see people leaping from windows, 105 stories up, making their peace with The Almighty, choosing to leave this earth on their OWN terms, and not give themselves over to the flames. = Some even telephoned their spouses before taking the plunge, calmly saying = their goodbyes, conveying their love. It's just unbearable, even for those of = us who, like me, are really NOT touched directly by this crime.   There are occasional good stories, including one firefighter who fell 83 FLOORS and survived, shielding himself in some kind of container on the = way down, as if going over Niagra Falls in a barrel. Others, after three = days, managed to make a telephone call on their cellphone from an air pocket in = the basement.   On a closing note, New York City is a magnet for aspiring performing = artists, actors, musicians, singers, dancers. Many of them survive by doing = corporate secreterial work, both regular and temporary, and there is no doubt that amongst the dead, there will be many kindred spirits in the performing = arts.   The city is grimly plastered with photocopied snapshots and descriptions = of the missing, yet they are posted with very little hope at this stage. Identification will be very difficult, and many, many families will have remains to bury. Many hope to at least find their loved one's wedding or engagement ring.   With all of the little skirmishes we have on these chat lists, pipe vs. non-pipe, to chiff or not to chiff, mechanical action versus = radio-controlled hydraulic slider chests, we are all truly good human beings, unable to conceive of the kind of hatred, the thought process, that would lead to = this type of calculated, meticulous mass murder, directed solely at innocent people.   The numbing pain of this is giving way to anger, as I walk the empty = streets except for the emergency and military and law enforcement vehicles, and = smell death everywhere. But I am confident that those who financed this crime = are a rare few. One cannot threaten or retaliate against people when they do = not value human life, including their own.   Unfortunately, we do not have a Churchill or an FDR to bolster our confidence, and our President's flat, four-minute, emotion-free speech, = eight long hours after the attack, left New Yorkers feeling worse than before. We are still waiting for him to come to NYC and act as a leader. In the mean =   time, we are New Yorkers: grizzly bears on the outside, teddy bears on = the inside. Thanks to all who have written, and my prayers to all of you who have lost family, friends, colleagues, or spiritual leaders in this = amazing event in human history.   Sebastian  
(back) Subject: Re: Calliope Music From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:14:59 EDT     --part1_21.1111eab8.28d289e3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 9/13/01 5:51:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wufeisgirl@yahoo.com writes:     > wow. really? I used to play jazz on s ome oof those > boats. >   Yup! Hope so. When I lived in Covington I would go to New Orleans at = least twice a month for a nice, leisurely four hour steamboat ride on the Mississippi. I even got to play the calliope a couple of times.   Good luck.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_21.1111eab8.28d289e3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 9/13/01 5:51:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wufeisgirl@yahoo.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">wow. really? I = used to play jazz on s ome oof those <BR>boats. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Yup! &nbsp;Hope so. &nbsp;&nbsp;When I lived in Covington I would go = to New Orleans at least twice a month for a nice, leisurely four hour = steamboat ride on the Mississippi. &nbsp;&nbsp;I even got to play the = calliope a couple of times. <BR> <BR>Good luck. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_21.1111eab8.28d289e3_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: A view from (near) Ground Zero From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:43:08 -0400   Dear Seb, Agreed. The last person in the world to lead this nation at this time = is dumbya. I have heard that Saddam is involved and he wanted to embarrass George Sr.'s son after what the first Bush did to him. God help America. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org>; <PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:03 PM Subject: A view from (near) Ground Zero     > Dear Listers: > > Although I said that I might not be in a posting mood, I do not know = what > kind of coverage you're getting, and from what I've seen on television, = it is > not really possible to fathom the enormity of this. The news has = focused on > a the two large towers, when in reality, many buildings, as high as = 70-odd > stories, have collapsed, and even those which remain standing have been > blasted out into hollow shells of dust and shattered glass, with nothing > inside at all recognizable or salvageable. > > Caverns of debris, buildings at odd angles, and streets piled many = stories > deep with bodies, body parts, rubble, and vehicles, are completely unpassable > to rescue crews. Fires continue to burn, and collapses, large and = small, are > a constant threat. > > Every Rescue Squad in the City of New York has been killed. Gone. > > We feel totally vulnerable. FDNY's top officials, as well as their Chaplain, > were killed as well. Nearly three hundred firefighters were murdered in this > attack, rushing into danger as the victims fled for their lives. > > This morning's daily visit to the firehouse brought me the news that a > twelfth member of the unit had perished. As you know, both NYPD and = FDNY are > multigenerational, family jobs, so that husbands, brothers, fathers, uncles, > nephews, are all waiting to hear, with little hope. > > There is very little room or way to get around, there is so much rubble. > Huge skyscrapers toppled into the streets, millions of tons of steel and > concrete, and the thousands of bodies still inside. Needless to say, = the > odor has become gruesome and pervasive at this end of the island, and it may > be weeks before they can get to the all of the bodies. > > The most heartbreaking horror was to see people leaping from windows, = 105 > stories up, making their peace with The Almighty, choosing to leave this > earth on their OWN terms, and not give themselves over to the flames. Some > even telephoned their spouses before taking the plunge, calmly saying their > goodbyes, conveying their love. It's just unbearable, even for those of us > who, like me, are really NOT touched directly by this crime. > > There are occasional good stories, including one firefighter who fell 83 > FLOORS and survived, shielding himself in some kind of container on the way > down, as if going over Niagra Falls in a barrel. Others, after three days, > managed to make a telephone call on their cellphone from an air pocket = in the > basement. > > On a closing note, New York City is a magnet for aspiring performing artists, > actors, musicians, singers, dancers. Many of them survive by doing corporate > secreterial work, both regular and temporary, and there is no doubt that > amongst the dead, there will be many kindred spirits in the performing arts. > > The city is grimly plastered with photocopied snapshots and descriptions of > the missing, yet they are posted with very little hope at this stage. > Identification will be very difficult, and many, many families will have > remains to bury. Many hope to at least find their loved one's wedding = or > engagement ring. > > With all of the little skirmishes we have on these chat lists, pipe vs. > non-pipe, to chiff or not to chiff, mechanical action versus radio-controlled > hydraulic slider chests, we are all truly good human beings, unable to > conceive of the kind of hatred, the thought process, that would lead to this > type of calculated, meticulous mass murder, directed solely at innocent > people. > > The numbing pain of this is giving way to anger, as I walk the empty streets > except for the emergency and military and law enforcement vehicles, and smell > death everywhere. But I am confident that those who financed this crime are > a rare few. One cannot threaten or retaliate against people when they = do not > value human life, including their own. > > Unfortunately, we do not have a Churchill or an FDR to bolster our > confidence, and our President's flat, four-minute, emotion-free speech, eight > long hours after the attack, left New Yorkers feeling worse than before. We > are still waiting for him to come to NYC and act as a leader. In the = mean > time, we are New Yorkers: grizzly bears on the outside, teddy bears on the > inside. Thanks to all who have written, and my prayers to all of you = who > have lost family, friends, colleagues, or spiritual leaders in this amazing > event in human history. > > Sebastian > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: A view from (near) Ground Zero From: <JerryM8319@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:03:48 EDT   Sebastian,   Now is not the time to criticize President Bush. We are going to be = hearing more and more like we heard today from General Jack Singlaub(former US supreme commander of all US forces in Korea). And I quote, "He (Clinton) decimated U.S. forces. He helped the very nations seeking to harm us, = Russia and China. He claimed they were strategic partners. Russia and China have been backing these terrorist countries like Iraq. What Clinton did was get =   the good people out of these agencies, the intelligence agencies. They = either quit or were fired. The people who supported Clinton stayed or were = promoted. Look at the case of Notra Trulock(former head of the nuclear weapons = security at the Dept of Energy). He was fired because he complained about the lack = of security. The people who agreed with Clinton and helped produce this = current situation are still running these agencies in the US government."   It is time for everyone to take Mayor Giuliani's advice when he said that = we all need to support President Bush.   Jerry  
(back) Subject: Re: A view from (near) Ground Zero From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:06:25 -0500   SEB,   What a powerful post....I don't know what else to say.   Vaya Con Dios   Jon    
(back) Subject: Re: A view from (near) Ground Zero From: <Tspiggle@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:35:27 EDT   Paul:   You said "I have heard that Saddam was involved.......". Where did you get =   this "reliable" information, from the CIA? Shame on you Paul. Now is the = time for us to be pulling together. We need to support our leaders whether we agree with them or not.   God bless America!   Tom  
(back) Subject: Appropriate Music Suggestion From: "Dellamano Music Publishing" <marybeth@dellamanomusic.com> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 19:52:02 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_006C_01C13D56.B91F42C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Dear list, There has been a lot of suggestions for material to play in light of what has happened to our country. We here at DMP would like to suggest an uplifting new piece called "Freedom". It is available at www.dellamanomusic.com/pipeorgan.html   Our prayers are with all those who have lost loved ones. God bless our America!   Mary Beth Dellamano marybeth@dellamanomusic.com   Dellamano Music Publishing 440 S. Seminary Street Collinsville, IL. 62234 1-866-343-6200 (Toll Free) www.dellamanomusic.com   ------=3D_NextPart_000_006C_01C13D56.B91F42C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4207.2601" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2> <DIV>Dear list,</DIV> <DIV>There has been a lot of suggestions for material to play in =3D light</DIV> <DIV>of what has happened to our country. We here at DMP would</DIV> <DIV>like to suggest an uplifting new piece called "Freedom". It =3D is</DIV> <DIV>available at <A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.dellamanomusic.com/pipeorgan.html">www.dellamanomusic.= =3D com/pipeorgan.html</A></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Tiger Rag LET"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Our prayers are with all those who have lost loved ones.</DIV> <DIV>God bless our America!</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><FONT face=3D3D"Times New Roman" =3D size=3D3D3>Mary Beth=3D20 Dellamano<BR></FONT><A href=3D3D"mailto:marybeth@dellamanomusic.com"><FONT = =3D   face=3D3D"Times New Roman" =3D size=3D3D3>marybeth@dellamanomusic.com</FONT></A></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3D3>Dellamano Music =3D Publishing<BR>440 S.=3D20 Seminary Street<BR>Collinsville, IL.&nbsp; 62234<BR>1-866-343-6200&nbsp; = =3D (Toll=3D20 Free)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3D3><A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.dellamanomusic.com">www.dellamanomusic.com</A></FONT><= =3D /DIV></FONT></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_006C_01C13D56.B91F42C0--    
(back) Subject: Re: Appropriate Music Suggestion From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:34:36 -0400   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --MS_Mac_OE_3083265276_2933891_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit   Well, if we must have a war, I guess we must have war profiteering also. How disgusting.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu         on 9/14/01 8:52 PM, Dellamano Music Publishing at marybeth@dellamanomusic.com wrote:   Dear list, There has been a lot of suggestions for material to play in light of what has happened to our country. We here at DMP would like to suggest an uplifting new piece called "Freedom". It is available at www.dellamanomusic.com/pipeorgan.html <http://www.dellamanomusic.com/pipeorgan.html> Our prayers are with all those who have lost loved ones. God bless our America! Mary Beth Dellamano marybeth@dellamanomusic.com Dellamano Music Publishing 440 S. Seminary Street Collinsville, IL. 62234 1-866-343-6200 (Toll Free) www.dellamanomusic.com <http://www.dellamanomusic.com>         --MS_Mac_OE_3083265276_2933891_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: Appropriate Music Suggestion</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> Well, if we must have a war, I guess we must have war profiteering also. = &n=3D bsp;How disgusting.<BR> <BR> <BR> Randy Runyon<BR> Music Director<BR> Zion Lutheran Church<BR> Hamilton, Ohio<BR> runyonr@muohio.edu<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> on 9/14/01 8:52 PM, Dellamano Music Publishing at = marybeth@dellamanomusic.c=3D om wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">Dear list,<BR> There has been a lot of suggestions for material to play in light<BR> of what has happened to our country. We here at DMP would<BR> like to suggest an uplifting new piece called &quot;Freedom&quot;. It = is<BR=3D > available at www.dellamanomusic.com/pipeorgan.html = &lt;http://www.dellamano=3D music.com/pipeorgan.html&gt; <BR> </FONT> <BR> Our prayers are with all those who have lost loved ones.<BR> God bless our America!<BR> <FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial"> <BR> </FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">Mary Beth Dellamano<BR> marybeth@dellamanomusic.com<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"> <BR> </FONT>Dellamano Music Publishing<BR> 440 S. Seminary Street<BR> Collinsville, IL. &nbsp;62234<BR> 1-866-343-6200 &nbsp;(Toll Free)<BR> www.dellamanomusic.com &lt;http://www.dellamanomusic.com&gt; <BR> </FONT><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </BODY> </HTML>     --MS_Mac_OE_3083265276_2933891_MIME_Part--    
(back) Subject: Infamy Sunday; St.Vincent's Houston From: "Daryel Nance" <DNance@svdp-edu.org> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:57:35 -0500     Hi All,   As the dull grip of the proportions of this tradgedy settle over the = nation, this Sunday will be long remembered by many. I'm sharing the following, = if these suggestions are of use to anyone. Music at out six weekend Masses will include:   Hymns and changes in Mass settings:   Ent.:Yahweh, I know you are Near GC 604 Rsp.Ps.:Shepherd Me, O God GC 31 Gspl.Accl.: Easter Alleluia with vr. 6 GC 424 Prp.:Make Me a Channel of Your Peace GC 726 Memr.Accl.: refrain Song of Farewell "Dying, You .." GC 864 Cmn.:With a Shepherd' Care GC 654 Cmn.:Without Seeing You GC 844 Cls.:On Eagle's Wings GC 611   (Alternates at specific Mases: Blest Be the Lord and Though the Mountains May Fall.)     Choral music: (The New Church Anthem Book - Oxford; ..these two can almost be = rendered as solos too) 1. A Gaelic Blessing - John Rutter "Deep peace of the running wave to you..." 2. My Shepherd Is Lord - Harrision Oxley (GIA) 3. O God Beyond All Praising - Richard Proulx     Organ - incidental music at specific Masses; (both of the following can impart a great sense peace):   1. First two pages (first 64 meas. w/1st 16 meas. as coda) of the Choral = in E Major - Caesar Franck. 2. Offertory in E Major - Theodore Dubois (very nice peaceful postlude).     I would predict we will have some memorable moments to relate with each other on Monday. Peace, blessings, and much healing to all,   daryel       Daryel Nance, St.Vincent's, Houston mailto:dnance@svdp-edu.org; www.dompaulbenoit.com; www.church-organist.com; www.daryeln.com   "...the only ones among you who will really be happy are those who sought and found how to serve." Albert Schweitzer        
(back) Subject: RE: another tribute From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:35:00 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000A_01C13CA4.53156A20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   And when the guard changes today at Buckingham Palace, the band will play, for the first time ever, 'The Star-Spangled Banner.     I saw this played on the news tonight, and for the first time, cried. It was very touching, especially when they showed everyone at the gates in tears (in Britain). Their concern and support - and all other countries - have been wonderful, and appreciated!   Jeff     ------=3D_NextPart_000_000A_01C13CA4.53156A20 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <html xmlns:o=3D3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =3D xmlns:w=3D3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =3D xmlns=3D3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">   <head> <meta http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3D3DProgId content=3D3DWord.Document> <meta name=3D3DGenerator content=3D3D"Microsoft Word 9"> <meta name=3D3DOriginator content=3D3D"Microsoft Word 9"> <link rel=3D3DFile-List href=3D3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C13CA4.527E5A40"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} p.MsoAutoSig, li.MsoAutoSig, div.MsoAutoSig {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} span.EmailStyle15 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> </head>   <body lang=3D3DEN-US style=3D3D'tab-interval:.5in'>   <div class=3D3DSection1>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal style=3D3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3D2 =3D color=3D3Dblack face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>And when the guard changes today at Buckingham Palace, the band will <br> play, for the first time ever, 'The Star-Spangled Banner. <br =3D style=3D3D'mso-special-character: line-break'> <![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br =3D style=3D3D'mso-special-character:line-break'> <![endif]></span></font><font size=3D3D2 color=3D3Dblack = face=3D3DArial><span style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:win= =3D dowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><span class=3D3DEmailStyle15><font size=3D3D2 =3D color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3DArial><span style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I = =3D saw this played on the news tonight, and for the first time, cried.<span style=3D3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>It was very touching, =3D especially when they showed everyone at the gates in tears (in Britain).<span style=3D3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Their concern and support =3D &#8211; and all other countries &#8211; have been wonderful, and =3D appreciated!<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><span class=3D3DEmailStyle15><font size=3D3D2 =3D color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3DArial><span style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><!= =3D [if =3D !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><span class=3D3DEmailStyle15><font size=3D3D2 =3D color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3DArial><span style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Je=3D ff<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><span class=3D3DEmailStyle15><font size=3D3D2 =3D color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3DArial><span style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><!= =3D [if =3D !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>   </div>   </body>   </html>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000A_01C13CA4.53156A20--    
(back) Subject: Re: A view from (near) Ground Zero From: "Mandy Glass" <amadpoet@lycos.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:33:30 -0500   I'm in total agreement, Jerry. For better or worse, and whether he's = prepared for it or not, we HAVE to stick with Bush. Remember that he is = not the one who got bin-Laden on our bad side in the first place. But = enough of political CRAP- that isn't what's important right now.   We vote for and pay these politicians to make the right decisions on our = behalf, and sometimes we suffer from their decisions. But ultimately, and = ESPECIALLY when America is directly attacked, these men and women are = Americans before they are politicians. I HAVE to believe that, but maybe = I'm naive.   Mandy --   On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:03:48 JerryM8319 wrote: >Sebastian, > >Now is not the time to criticize President Bush. We are going to be = hearing >more and more like we heard today from General Jack Singlaub(former US >supreme commander of all US forces in Korea). And I quote, "He (Clinton) >decimated U.S. forces. He helped the very nations seeking to harm us, = Russia >and China. He claimed they were strategic partners. Russia and China have =   >been backing these terrorist countries like Iraq. What Clinton did was = get >the good people out of these agencies, the intelligence agencies. They = either >quit or were fired. The people who supported Clinton stayed or were = promoted. >Look at the case of Notra Trulock(former head of the nuclear weapons = security >at the Dept of Energy). He was fired because he complained about the lack = of >security. The people who agreed with Clinton and helped produce this = current >situation are still running these agencies in the US government." > >It is time for everyone to take Mayor Giuliani's advice when he said that = we >all need to support President Bush. > >Jerry > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >     Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/