PipeChat Digest #2368 - Friday, September 14, 2001
Re: A view from (near) Ground Zero
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
RE: A view from (near) Ground Zero
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net>
Please Read - [Was:Re: Appropriate Music Suggestion]
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Another appropriate composition (X-posted)
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>

(back) Subject: Re: A view from (near) Ground Zero From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:42:58 EDT     --part1_110.54e02f4.28d2d6c2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit     > It is time for everyone to take Mayor Giuliani's advice when he said = that we > >all need to support President Bush. >   I agree, but, the true color of our country is being able to express = opinions about our government officials.   Sebastian is RIGHT THERE. He needs to vent.   Neil B.   --part1_110.54e02f4.28d2d6c2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">It is time for = everyone to take Mayor Giuliani's advice when he said that we <BR>&gt;all need to support President Bush. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I agree, but, the true color of our country is being able to express = opinions about our government officials. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Sebastian is RIGHT THERE. &nbsp;He needs to vent. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Neil B.</FONT></HTML>   --part1_110.54e02f4.28d2d6c2_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: A view from (near) Ground Zero From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:54:52 -0500   Hear, hear, Mandy! I'm with you there. It wouldn't matter *WHO* was in = the White House, this was going to happen one way or the other, and now we as = a nation have to deal with it. Bin Laden has been on our case since the = early to mid 1990's...   What matters now, IMHO is that we stick together as a COUNTRY and with our allies and show the world that we cannot be defeated, even when hit in our own yard. If we don't unify and rally behind our government....if we lose all sensibilities and start attacking our own (INCLUDING the Arab Americans), then the enemy's objectives are achieved.   God bless our native land! Jeff   I'm in total agreement, Jerry. For better or worse, and whether he's prepared for it or not, we HAVE to stick with Bush. Remember that he is = not the one who got bin-Laden on our bad side in the first place. But enough = of political CRAP- that isn't what's important right now.   We vote for and pay these politicians to make the right decisions on our behalf, and sometimes we suffer from their decisions. But ultimately, and ESPECIALLY when America is directly attacked, these men and women are Americans before they are politicians. I HAVE to believe that, but maybe = I'm naive.   Mandy --   On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:03:48 JerryM8319 wrote: >Sebastian, > >Now is not the time to criticize President Bush. We are going to be = hearing >more and more like we heard today from General Jack Singlaub(former US >supreme commander of all US forces in Korea). And I quote, "He (Clinton) >decimated U.S. forces. He helped the very nations seeking to harm us, Russia >and China. He claimed they were strategic partners. Russia and China have >been backing these terrorist countries like Iraq. What Clinton did was = get >the good people out of these agencies, the intelligence agencies. They either >quit or were fired. The people who supported Clinton stayed or were promoted. >Look at the case of Notra Trulock(former head of the nuclear weapons security >at the Dept of Energy). He was fired because he complained about the lack of >security. The people who agreed with Clinton and helped produce this current >situation are still running these agencies in the US government." > >It is time for everyone to take Mayor Giuliani's advice when he said that we >all need to support President Bush. > >Jerry > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >     Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Please Read - [Was:Re: Appropriate Music Suggestion] From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:50:05 -0500   Randy   You wrote regarding the posting from Dellamano Music Publishing: <Well, if we must have a war, I guess we must have war profiteering also. How disgusting.>   My thoughts exactly when I saw that post - I have removed that address from the list.   We are in a National Tragedy and although some opinions are being run by anger and there are and will be some disagreements regarding some of the events of this week I found the particular posting you are referring to very obnoxious. The person involved was removed without explanation to them - as List Owner I have that right.   Leaving my own personal feeling out of all of this, I support the right of all members of the list to have their own opinions about how things are being handled or not handled as the case may be. We received a complain at the Administration address earlier from a member about postings of a couple of other members today basically asking that we censer the other members for something they posted. I refuse to do that. This is America and we do have the right of Freedom of Speech and I support that completely on the list. However, I would like to ask that if there are disagreements that we temper them since we don't know the feelings that are causing the postings of other members. Some of us on this list are touched much more personally by the events in New York and Washington than most of us are and it could be that what they are saying in their posts is being driven by being closer to the "War Zone" and the events happening right around them. I do hope however, that we can keep some of these "political" types of postings from intruding on the list.   I hope that we all take some time tomorrow to think and prayer for everyone touched by these events. Not only for the victims but also for all those working in the search and rescue efforts and also for our Government in their work in finding the "cowards" that caused this terrible destruction. I had thought about shutting down this server for the day tomorrow as part of that mourning process but since I need to be out of town tomorrow night and wouldn't be able to restart it the server will be running as usual.   David  
(back) Subject: Another appropriate composition (X-posted) From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 00:58:02 -0400   Hi all,   Here in Syracuse the Roman Catholic Bishop has suggested all churches to = use the "Votive Mass in Time of Civil Disturbances". I am planning to use = "Song of Peace" of Jean Langlais for a Prelude.   Bonnie Beth   Bonnie Beth Derby, B.Mus., M.Mus. Organist & Director of Music, St. James Roman Catholic Church, Syracuse [1988 Odell/Kerner & Merchant 33-rank tracker organ] Producer & Host: "Orgelwerke" & "Choral Traditions", WCNY-FM, 91.3, Syracuse; WUNY-FM, 89.5, Utica; WJNY-FM, 90.9, Watertown; Website: www.wcny.org e-mail: orge@dreamscape.com