PipeChat Digest #2377 - Sunday, September 16, 2001
 
Re: A spirit of forgiveness and understanding
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Michael Murray at Round Lake, NY-8/12/01
  by "Kristen Jones" <wufeisgirl@yahoo.com>
the Moslem clergyman who spoke at the National Cathedral (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
this morning (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Felix Hell's Birthday Party
  by "Kristen Jones" <wufeisgirl@yahoo.com>
Re: this morning (X-posted)
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: the Moslem clergyman who spoke at the National Cathedral (X-posted)
  by <Stephen767@aol.com>
Hope in the Basement
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
"Normalcy": the Rabbinal View
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Music 16/9/01
  by "Stephen Barker" <steve@ststephenscanterbury.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: the Moslem clergyman who spoke at the National Cathedral (X-posted)
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: A spirit of forgiveness and understanding
  by "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: A spirit of forgiveness and understanding From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 05:07:58 EDT     --part1_a2.197684e0.28d5c5ee_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I wrote to the Dellamanos after their removal from the list and received = the following reply. I wanted the list to read it and consider an apology to them.   Dear Bruce, Thank you for seeing our e-mail in the true light that it was intended. = We are a husband and wife who just want to share the music that God has = inspired with others. I can't tell you the sick feelings we have had from the negative slander that we have received from the list. All we wanted to do =   was share music related information with others. We are fairly new to the ring and have been disappointed to see all of the =   non-related, uncalled for discussion that takes place here. We really appreciate your response. When we signed up for the list, it looked like a =   chance to see what other organists are doing. Jim has been the organist = at First United Presbyterian Church for 20 years. The last 7 of those years, = he has been the music director. Our church is small, but keeps him very = busy. All throughout his musical career, writing has been his passion. He has written 10 seasonal cantatas along with other single pieces. It seemed a shame to keep all of his music in a box. We have been trying to publish it =   ourselves in order to share. If you went to our site, you saw that in NO = way are we price gouging, as we were accused of doing. In fact, we've been = told that our prices are reasonable. Money is not our mission. Sharing our blessings with others is. We were ready to drop off of this list and move on, but you have given us hope that there are kind and sincere people out there. Hopefully, the = owner of this list will get some positive response to his latest e-mail to stop some of the inappropriate postings. Thank You again and may God bless you, Mary Beth Dellamano     Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_a2.197684e0.28d5c5ee_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>I wrote to the = Dellamanos after their removal from the list and received the following = reply. &nbsp;I wanted the list to read it and consider an apology to them. <BR> <BR>Dear Bruce,</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Thank you for seeing our e-mail in the true = light that it was intended. &nbsp;We are a husband and wife who just want = to share the music that God has inspired with others. &nbsp;I can't tell = you the sick feelings we have had from the negative slander that we have = received from the list. &nbsp;All we wanted to do was share music related = information with others. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">We are fairly new to the ring and have been = disappointed to see all of the non-related, uncalled for discussion that = takes place here. &nbsp;We really appreciate your response. When we signed = up for the list, it looked like a chance to see what other organists are = doing. &nbsp;Jim has been the organist at First United Presbyterian Church = for 20 years. &nbsp;The last 7 of those years, he has been the music = director. &nbsp;Our church is small, but keeps him very busy. &nbsp;All = throughout his musical career, writing has been his passion. &nbsp;He has = written 10 seasonal cantatas along with other single pieces. &nbsp;It = seemed a shame to keep all of his music in a box. We have been trying to = publish it ourselves in order to share. &nbsp;If you went to our site, you = saw that in NO way are we price gouging, as we were accused of doing. = &nbsp;In fact, we've been told that our prices are reasonable. &nbsp;Money <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">We were ready to drop off of this list and move = on, but you have given us hope that there are kind and sincere people out = there. &nbsp;Hopefully, the owner of this list will get some positive = response to his latest e-mail to stop some of the inappropriate = postings.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Thank You again and may God bless = you,</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Mary Beth Dellamano</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a2.197684e0.28d5c5ee_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Michael Murray at Round Lake, NY-8/12/01 From: "Kristen Jones" <wufeisgirl@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 06:27:21 -0700 (PDT)   Hey, malcom ,do you know a guy named John Weschler? He's a friend of mine.   __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/  
(back) Subject: the Moslem clergyman who spoke at the National Cathedral (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 06:34:21 -0700   Did anyone else catch the news brief that he was involved in a violently anti-American demonstration in front of the White House some months ago?   I didn't; someone told me about it; it seems to have come and gone and been dropped.   What are we to make of this, if it's true?   Pious words with hate in his heart?   Who's to be trusted?   Bud    
(back) Subject: this morning (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 06:39:40 -0700   I'm still wrestling with what to do this morning ... I may have the choir sing the Burial Sentences instead of a prelude ... they have them ready ... we just did them last week for a funeral.   Or I may have silence.   As I recall, we just tolled the bell before and after all the Masses on the Sunday following President Kennedy's assassination. St. Matthew's doesn't have a bell yet, so I can't do that.   Bud-by-the-Beach    
(back) Subject: Re: Felix Hell's Birthday Party From: "Kristen Jones" <wufeisgirl@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 06:41:14 -0700 (PDT)   Ya, wasn't it wonderful, I'll bet. They are very nice people.   --- TubaMagna@aol.com wrote: > Dear List Members: > > Last night I finally got to meet Felix Hell, and > also had the opportunity to > enjoy an evening of prayer, song, and a variety of > young, talented organists > performing in his honor. I am going to leave the > review of the evening to > Malcolm Wechsler, as he has always been the > unofficial concert reviewer for > the chatlist, and I seem to be the organbuilding > curmudgeon and war > correspondent. > > I will say, however, that both Felix and his parents > are amazingly fun, open, > and loving people. Any thoughts one might have of > the overbearing "stage > parents" or the stuck-up child prodigy vanish when > one immediately latches > onto the joy they have for what they do, and how > they share it. > > The evening began with a candle-lit ceremony at the > base of the CitiCorp > tower, at which were sung hymns and songs; we > proceeded to a DELICIOUS > church supper, followed by several fine, young > musicians who will welcome > Felix into their ranks at Curtis, ending the evening > with a period of > silence, and a period of birthday-cake eating. > > As these young organists hone their already dazzling > techniques under the > aegis of John Weaver, they will mature emotionally, > and it will be reflected > in their musical interpretations. None of us played > the organ at 16 as we > will at 50 -- we haven't lived enough, had our > hearts broken enough, been > betrayed enough, or found the love of our life yet. > HOWEVER, innocence, > youth, excitement, and exuberance, with the promise > of a bright future, > translate into VERY exciting playing, and a very > present joy. Certainly, the > sobering events of Tuesday HAVE affected their > souls, and may be an > interpretational reference point in their > performances later in life. > > To those of us who managed to make it in last night, > we are fortunate that > the event was NOT cancelled, and that Felix and his > parents made such an > effort to get him back to NYC, despite his stress > and fatigue. > > Sebastian > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/  
(back) Subject: Re: this morning (X-posted) From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:50:16 -0500   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:As I recall, we just tolled the bell before = and after all the Masses on   > the Sunday following President Kennedy's assassination. St. Matthew's > doesn't have a bell yet, so I can't do that. > > Bud-by-the-Beach > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics   Our bell, cast at the Whitechapel foundry in 1636, originally came from = St. Giles Church, Blendworth, Hants. It is very fragile and we don't use it very often, but we shall be tolling it before the 10 a.m. service this morning.   John Speller, St. Mark's, St. Louis.    
(back) Subject: Re: the Moslem clergyman who spoke at the National Cathedral (X-posted) From: <Stephen767@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:00:02 EDT     --part1_40.114a2fc7.28d61872_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 09/16/2001 6:34:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:     > Did anyone else catch the news brief that he was involved in a violently > anti-American demonstration in front of the White House some months ago? > > I didn't; someone told me about it; it seems to have come and gone and > been dropped. > > What are we to make of this, if it's true? > > Pious words with hate in his heart? > > Who's to be trusted? > >   Bud:   There was something on this subject recently at www.newsmax.com or maybe www.drudgereport.com. Your statement is apparently true and it reminds me that "there are 'devils' within our midst." Just like having one's enemy = in one's own bed.   Steve keeping a very watchful eye on things   --part1_40.114a2fc7.28d61872_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 09/16/2001 6:34:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Did anyone else = catch the news brief that he was involved in a violently <BR>anti-American demonstration in front of the White House some months = ago? <BR> <BR>I didn't; someone told me about it; it seems to have come and gone and <BR>been dropped. <BR> <BR>What are we to make of this, if it's true? <BR> <BR>Pious words with hate in his heart? <BR> <BR>Who's to be trusted? <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Bud: <BR> <BR>There was something on this subject recently at www.newsmax.com or = maybe www.drudgereport.com. Your statement is apparently true and it = reminds me that "there are 'devils' within our midst." &nbsp;Just like = having one's enemy in one's own bed. <BR> <BR>Steve <BR>keeping a very watchful eye on things</FONT></HTML>   --part1_40.114a2fc7.28d61872_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Hope in the Basement From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:30:38 EDT   Dear List Members:   Thank you for the many, many hundreds of letters which have been pouring = in from all over the world, especially from "lurkers" and foreign readers. = One list member has gotten tired of hearing and reading about mass murder, and = I understand that we are reluctant to accept that human beings are capable = of such things. So this report will be about our one shred of hope to which = we cling in New York City.   The immense structure of the World Trade Center required a substantial foundation, and I believe that there were as many as seven levels of underground development, down to bedrock, beneath the great towers. What = we are hoping for is a rare, improbable, but POSSIBLE mix of factors which = could make survival possible:   .. People might be trapped in a protected, structural void, beneath the rubble pile; .. There were many food establishments down there on the subterranean = levels, and there is a chance that they could survive on available food and = bottled drinks which were most likely replenished before the work week began; .. Survivors might be able to use clothing from retail establishments or lifeless victims to prevent hypothermia as the weather has changed to = Autumn. It has been very cold at night, which is a danger to survivors, but has slowed the decay process.   What is so bizarre is how beautiful and crisp the weather is here. Except =   for the constant plume of smoke from Building Seven, which still burns constantly from deep within, the skies are very clear, the air fresh, and = the rains gone.   Even if the furious pace of rubble removal were to continue at its present =   alacrity, they have calculated that it will not be removed to street level =   until December. The rescuers and engineers cling to the hope that = SOMEBODY is resourceful and has survival instincts, and are somewhere deep in a protected void beneath Ground Zero. THAT is what keeps them going.   Sebastian  
(back) Subject: "Normalcy": the Rabbinal View From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:00:40 EDT   Dear Listmembers:   As we evoke the coined words of leaders past, I thought I would share with =   you some insights provided to me by an Orthodox Rabbi yesterday morning at =   the Kiddush-quasi-Aufruf for my eldest brother, Josiah's, wedding.   His fiancee asked the Rabbi whether or not it was appropriate, under the current circumstances, for us ALL to stand for the Mourner's Kaddish (The Prayer for the Dead), or whether it was only appropriate for us to observe =   Yizkor (the Memorial Service for All). That is, for those of us who had = not had a direct relative or spouse murdered on Tuesday, was it appropriate to =   stand for the Kaddish during Sabbath services.   His interpretation was that the death of a loved one is very personal, and =   that the act of standing at Kaddish every day for a year is most = meaningful when the period of mourning is OVER. That FIRST service when we are NOT standing for Kaddish, when we have RETURNED to the pool of human souls who =   are not formally in mourning. That return to "Normalcy" then becomes as significant as the grieving. Group morning on a regular basis is well-intentioned, but dilutes the personal link between the deceased and = the mourner.   Will there be a "normalcy" again? New Yorkers who once "tuned out" most noise, now jump when the compressor of their air conditioner "thumps" on. = We freeze and look into each others' eyes in terror when an airplane passes overhead -- they have NEVER sounded so loud. We hold our breath, and wait =   silently until they pass.   For the injured and maimed, there will never be "normal" again. We are = not talking about cuts and scrapes. The burn units are full, and it is the = most excruciating, agonzing, ghastly way to go, and if they survive, it will be =   YEARS of pain and therapy, and they will be forever disfigured and = crippled.   The person who has moved in with me just wants their home and place of = work back; the future of their job is in question. If you have ever had a co-worker die, it is painful, so imagine working at the Cantor-Fitzgerald firm, where 700 colleagues were killed at once, and most likely there will = be NO remains for burial.   I realize that this story will be with us for years, as will the = aftermath. The government now tells us that the threat is very much here, among us, = and it originated right here in "cells" long-established amongst our = neighbors. We can choose to be complacent and believe that this was the one and only time, and that it will not, cannot, happen again, but they bombed the = Trade Center once before, and we complacently returned to what we thought was "normalcy."   I, too, wish to get back to organ related matters. My life is about organbuilding. I am fortunate enough to get to build organs for a living, =   and watch a new group of young musicians take an interest in them. Organ topics are already coming back, and they will eventually be the mainstay = of the list. The farther away we are geographically and personally from this =   crime, the more normal life will seem. Will any of us remember what = happened NEXT September 11?   Sebastian  
(back) Subject: Music 16/9/01 From: "Stephen Barker" <steve@ststephenscanterbury.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:00:04 +0100   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_008B_01C13ED1.07EDDA80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Music at St Stephen's Canterbury UK, 16th September 2001 Trinity 14   10.30am Sung Eucharist   Before the service - Nimrod - Edward Elgar Setting - Johannesburg Service - John Bertalot During Communion - Ubi Caritas Taiz=3DE9 chant Voluntary - Adagio for Strings - Barber     6.00pm Choral Evensong   Before the service - Silence Preces and Responses - Sarum (Plainsong) Psalm 125 Gradual Hymn - Before the ending of the day (Plainsong) Mag and Nunc to Anglican chant Anthem - Subdue us by thy goodness - J.S. Bach Hymn - O strength and stay (to tune of the same title) Voluntary - Solemn melody (?title?) Walford-Davies     The music at Evensong was changed to reflect the mood of the week.   Steve     ------=3D_NextPart_000_008B_01C13ED1.07EDDA80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Music at St Stephen's Canterbury UK, = =3D 16th September=3D20 2001 Trinity 14</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>10.30am Sung Eucharist</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Before the service - Nimrod - = Edward=3D20 Elgar</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Setting - Johannesburg Service - = John=3D20 Bertalot</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>During Communion - Ubi Caritas = Taiz=3DE9=3D20 chant</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Voluntary - Adagio for Strings -=3D20 Barber</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>6.00pm Choral Evensong</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Before the service - =3D Silence</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Preces and Responses - Sarum=3D20 (Plainsong)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Psalm 125</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Gradual Hymn - Before the ending of = the =3D day=3D20 (Plainsong)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Mag and Nunc to Anglican =3D chant</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Anthem - Subdue us by thy goodness - = =3D J.S.=3D20 Bach</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hymn - O strength and stay (to tune = of =3D the same=3D20 title)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Voluntary - Solemn melody = (?title?)=3D20 Walford-Davies</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The music at Evensong was changed to = =3D reflect the=3D20 mood of the week.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Steve</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_008B_01C13ED1.07EDDA80--    
(back) Subject: Re: the Moslem clergyman who spoke at the National Cathedral (X-posted) From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:50:36 EDT     --part1_d8.c0b590b.28d6325c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 9/16/01 9:33:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:     > Did anyone else catch the news brief that he was involved in a violently > anti-American demonstration in front of the White House some months ago? > > (snip) > Pious words with hate in his heart? > > Who's to be trusted? >   Perhaps he's had a change of heart. It would be important to know all of = the circumstances around the demonstration. We are not called to judge.   Only trust in God. He will guide you. If we start throwing stones at anyone we feel is remotely unAmerican, we're going to have alot of wounded =   clergy and musicians...       Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_d8.c0b590b.28d6325c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 9/16/01 9:33:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Did anyone else = catch the news brief that he was involved in a violently <BR>anti-American demonstration in front of the White House some months = ago? <BR> <BR>(snip) <BR>Pious words with hate in his heart? <BR> <BR>Who's to be trusted? <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Perhaps he's had a change of heart. &nbsp;It would be important to = know all of the circumstances around the demonstration. &nbsp;&nbsp;We are = not called to judge. <BR> <BR>Only trust in God. &nbsp;He will guide you. &nbsp;&nbsp;If we start = throwing stones at anyone we feel is remotely unAmerican, we're going to = have alot of wounded clergy and musicians... <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_d8.c0b590b.28d6325c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: A spirit of forgiveness and understanding From: "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:39:31 -0700 (PDT)   Dear Bruce:   Can you send me the E-mail address for Jim & Beth Dellamano?   Thanks.   Keith Morgan     --- Cremona502@cs.com wrote: > I wrote to the Dellamanos after their removal from > the list and received the > following reply. I wanted the list to read it and > consider an apology to > them. > > Dear Bruce, > > Thank you for seeing our e-mail in the true light > that it was intended. We > are a husband and wife who just want to share the > music that God has inspired > with others. I can't tell you the sick feelings we > have had from the > negative slander that we have received from the > list. All we wanted to do > was share music related information with others. > > We are fairly new to the ring and have been > disappointed to see all of the > non-related, uncalled for discussion that takes > place here. We really > appreciate your response. When we signed up for the > list, it looked like a > chance to see what other organists are doing. Jim > has been the organist at > First United Presbyterian Church for 20 years. The > last 7 of those years, he > has been the music director. Our church is small, > but keeps him very busy. > All throughout his musical career, writing has been > his passion. He has > written 10 seasonal cantatas along with other single > pieces. It seemed a > shame to keep all of his music in a box. We have > been trying to publish it > ourselves in order to share. If you went to our > site, you saw that in NO way > are we price gouging, as we were accused of doing. > In fact, we've been told > that our prices are reasonable. Money is not our > mission. Sharing our > blessings with others is. > > We were ready to drop off of this list and move on, > but you have given us > hope that there are kind and sincere people out > there. Hopefully, the owner > of this list will get some positive response to his > latest e-mail to stop > some of the inappropriate postings. > > > Thank You again and may God bless you, > > > Mary Beth Dellamano > > > Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ > ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi > Visit Howling Acres at > http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ >     __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/