PipeChat Digest #2378 - Sunday, September 16, 2001
 
War and life in general
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
Re: A spirit of forgiveness and understanding
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Blessings among the heartaches
  by <Wurlibird1@aol.com>
Re: "Normalcy": the Rabbinal View
  by "Mandy Glass" <amadpoet@lycos.com>
Re: War and life in general
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: A spirit of forgiveness and understanding
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: back to you Paul
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
Re: "Normalcy": the Rabbinal View
  by <OrganMD@aol.com>
A Day Of Mourning
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net>
this morning, and Thursday night (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: this morning, and Thursday night (X-posted)
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net>
 

(back) Subject: War and life in general From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:28:29 EDT     --part1_6d.1a6436ee.28d6575d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hey All, Church was PACKED today, more so than Christmas or Easter. We =   had people listening from everywhere. We sang the Lutkin Benediction = instead of a postlude and recessed silently, very meaningful to many. At any rate, = I live about 45 mins south of the city, have much family in it, and everyone = is ok fo rthe most part. I do have some friends who lost parents, as my community at home is very much involved in that area. Prayer has been happeneing everywhere, and people have been singing in churches that never =   had any kind of noteable music. This has been terrible for the country, = but people sang so much today and have been brought much closer together. On the subject of war...I hope and pray we don't have one! Many of = my friends, musical and non musical are grieving the losses, but an all-out = war is not the correct course of action in our eyes. This should be fought, = and this should be met with a severe response, but I don't feel an all-out war = is what we need. I turned 21 this past August, and I feel that my calling is = to be here, studying, teaching, and ministering with music. I personally = don't want to see more fatalities come of a large conflict overseas. The idea of =   another vietnam or conflicts that claim many of the country's young people = is scary. I hope and pray that we fight this, resolve this, and pacify this situation, but with little further loss of life. I also believe that part = of this battle is at home, in our churches and schools. This is where we can start to educate and cultivate feelings of national pride, religious = freedom, and wisdom in the youth of America.   God Bless, = Pete Isherwood   --part1_6d.1a6436ee.28d6575d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hey All, <BR> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Chu= rch was PACKED today, more so than Christmas or Easter. We had people = listening from everywhere. We sang the Lutkin Benediction instead of a = postlude and recessed silently, very meaningful to many. At any rate, I = live about 45 mins south of the city, have much family in it, and everyone = is ok fo rthe most part. I do have some friends who lost parents, as my = community at home is very much involved in that area. Prayer has been = happeneing everywhere, and people have been singing in churches that never = had any kind of noteable music. This has been terrible for the country, = but people sang so much today and have been brought much closer together. <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;On the subject of war...I hope = and pray we don't have one! Many of my friends, musical and non musical = are grieving the losses, but an all-out war is not the correct course of = action in our eyes. This should be fought, and this should be met with a = severe response, but I don't feel an all-out war is what we need. I turned = 21 this past August, and I feel that my calling is to be here, studying, = teaching, and ministering with music. I personally don't want to see more = fatalities come of a large conflict overseas. The idea of another vietnam = or conflicts that claim many of the country's young people is scary. I = hope and pray that we fight this, resolve this, and pacify this situation, = but with little further loss of life. I also believe that part of this = battle is at home, in our churches and schools. This is where we can start = to educate and cultivate feelings of national pride, religious freedom, = and wisdom in the youth of America. <BR> <BR> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs= p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;God Bless, <BR> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Pete Isherwood</FONT></HTML>   --part1_6d.1a6436ee.28d6575d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: A spirit of forgiveness and understanding From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:34:08 EDT     --part1_127.432b290.28d658b0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   The Dellamano's e-mail address is   rmdostie@yahoo.com   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_127.432b290.28d658b0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>The Dellamano's e-mail = address is <BR> <BR>rmdostie@yahoo.com <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_127.432b290.28d658b0_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Blessings among the heartaches From: <Wurlibird1@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:38:08 EDT   Greetings to all,   In view of recent events and postings that have resulted, I chose to leave =   the lists until next week in order to gain some control of my own emotions =   and perspective. Normally I keep promises and commitments. Exceptions of =   this day prompt me to share with you the joys of this week amid the = sorrows.   Last Monday I was asked by the organist who replaced me upon retirement to =   serve at today's services. I was honored and accepted. When I asked = about choral works she told me that the anthem would be "Let There Be Peace On Earth, And Let It Begin With Me." How prophetic and appropriate in light = of the next day's tragedy. As I planned my services on Wednesday, I chose Adagio from Symphony V by Widor for some part of the services. How thrilled I was to hear it during =   the National Cathedral service Friday.   This morning as I prepared my registrations, a young lad of thirteen made = his way up to the console. He was fascinated by the organ, full of questions, =   and genuinely interested in the organ. Although I was absorbed in other chores, he asked me three times if I would teach him. He has four years = of piano. I agreed to his requests and my heart was filled with joy from his =   excitement. Right now I am not sure who is happier, him or me.   A brief meeting with his parents after services confirmed his wish to = study organ and arrangements were made to start lessons next week. No greater honor could have come my way and no more needed blessing could God have = given me at this time.   Prayers of comfort to you all, Jim Pitts  
(back) Subject: Re: "Normalcy": the Rabbinal View From: "Mandy Glass" <amadpoet@lycos.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:06:09 -0500   Sebastian writes:   << The farther away we are geographically and personally from this crime, = the more normal life will seem. Will any of us remember what happened = NEXT September 11? >>   <snip>   Sebastian-   A return to =93normalcy=94 will not preclude remembrance, at least in my = mind. Every anniversary that marks the OK City bombing is a sad time for = those of us in the south. People line up outside the site to pray and = sing. The bombing is still a part of us, and will remain a part of us, = just as almost 40 years later we can still hear the shots that took = JFK=92s life. The attacks in NYC and Washington, because of their = enormity, will not be forgotten any time soon, and they will be written = into the history books- hopefully as being the beginning of the end of = terrorism (hey, I'm allowed to be an idealist every once in a while).   I have been grateful for your updates on the situation in NYC, as I have = stopped watching the news completely. As one of your fellow New Yorkers so = eloquently put it on the =93other=94 list, the news starts to bring a = certain unreality to the situation, like a bad movie. I for one don=92t = want to remember this attack as something I saw on television, but as a = grief I shared with other Americans, and something that made the country = stronger.   Please take into consideration that =93normalcy=94 (and this is only my = opinion) in this situation does not mean that we =93get back to life = exactly as it was before and forget this happened,=94 but that we get back = to some semblance of an everyday life-changed but looking forward. I = don=92t know anyone who will not be changed by this, even this far south. = I think the Dallas police chief Terrell Bolton said it best when he = pointed out that this attack will at least make us more mindful of our = vulnerability, and we will have a stronger defense next time we are faced = with terrorism. Hate is like pain=97we forget how strong it is until we = are reaching for the aspirin bottle.   I=92m just babbling on in an attempt to lift your spirits, and I don=92t = know that I=92ve done a very good job. I=92m not a very optimistic person = usually, but I do tend to be dogmatic in what optimistic beliefs I have. = One of those beliefs is that there are enough human beings left in this = country to keep this mass-murder alive in our minds for a long time, so = that we might learn from it.   With much love to my fellow organists who are suffering, Mandy     Make a difference, help support the relief efforts in the U.S. http://clubs.lycos.com/live/events/september11.asp  
(back) Subject: Re: War and life in general From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:25:09 EDT     --part1_7c.1ba86228.28d664a5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 9/16/01 3:33:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = Oboe32@aol.com writes:     > On the subject of war...I hope and pray we don't have one! - snip - = This should be fought, and this should be met with a severe response, but I = don't feel > an all-out war is what we need. - snip - I personally don't want to see =   > more fatalities come of a large conflict overseas. The idea of another > vietnam or conflicts that claim many of the country's young people is > scary.   If it's any comfort, on CNN Hotline last night (3am!!), the subject of war =   came up and it was pointed out that this will be a type of war that has = never been fought before. The speaker also cautioned that we should not create great anxiety over "war as we know it" since this will be a war fought in ways that will be new. There is a comfort in knowing that "war" will not = be business as usual. I really believe that, if nothing else, much was = learned about the technology and art of war. I think there is sufficient = diversity in the government and its advisors that we will not be blindly plunged = into another "typical" war. We must have faith and hope.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_7c.1ba86228.28d664a5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 9/16/01 3:33:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Oboe32@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">On the subject of = war...I hope and pray we don't have one! &nbsp;- snip -</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" = LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0">&nbsp;This should be = fought, and this should be met with a severe response, but I don't feel = </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px">an all-out war is what we need. &nbsp;- snip - I personally don't = want to see more fatalities come of a large conflict overseas. The idea of = another vietnam or conflicts that claim many of the country's young people = is scary. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>If it's any comfort, on CNN Hotline last night (3am!!), the subject of = war came up and it was pointed out that this will be a type of war that = has never been fought before. &nbsp;The speaker also cautioned that we = should not create great anxiety over "war as we know it" since this will = be a war fought in ways that will be new. &nbsp;&nbsp;There is a comfort = in knowing that "war" will not be business as usual. &nbsp;I really = believe that, if nothing else, much was learned about the technology and = art of war. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I think there is sufficient diversity in the = government and its advisors that we will not be blindly plunged into = another "typical" war. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We must have faith and hope. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_7c.1ba86228.28d664a5_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: A spirit of forgiveness and understanding From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:27:24 EDT     --part1_113.4b3ac3b.28d6652c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Well, duh! That was stupid. (sorry Rick)... My paster wasn't working = and I didn't look. Nothing like confidence in technology. I want my = tracker computer!!!! ;-)   Dellamano's address is REALLY:   marybeth@dellamanomusic.com   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_113.4b3ac3b.28d6652c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Well, duh! &nbsp;That = was stupid. &nbsp;(sorry Rick)... &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;My paster wasn't = working and I didn't look. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Nothing like confidence in = technology. &nbsp;&nbsp;I want my tracker computer!!!! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Dellamano's address is REALLY: <BR> <BR>marybeth@dellamanomusic.com <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_113.4b3ac3b.28d6652c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: back to you Paul From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:48:14 -0400   Dear Wayne, Again I fear that there are some people in the government who hid in the National Guard to flee from the draft. Their father got them a slot through political influence and they are now calling for war. Only those = who have risked their lives and know what war is should have the right to call for it, knowing the consequences. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Grauel" <wgvideo@attglobal.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:16 PM Subject: back to you Paul     > Subject: Re: a Pastoral Message (and a note to Paul) > From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 12:52:34 -0400 > > Dear Wayne, > I guess my message today can somewhat let you know why I feel the > way > I feel. I fear for America, a country which I love dearly. I saw my > youth > disappear in war but it was my 15 minutes of glory to work with those > who > gave their supreme sacrifice. There are no more glorious heros than > American > servicemen especially those I knew in the United States Air Force. > Paul > ************************************** > Thanks Paul... unfortunately that one derogatory name just set me off > and at that point I quickly stepped up to the plate...(or came out > swinging) I too am a republican and I happen to think more of Bush Jr. > than I did of Bush Sr. (he always reminded me of Oscar... (I think that > was his name ) on the 6 million dollar man!!!). > > Anyway, I think that our current administration ( no one's perfect) > probably has more going for it at this very point than any we've had in > a while. I attribute much of this to Colin Powell too. Hopefully > George will have enough leadership to be able to temper any far right > views as a public servant and leave them to his more personal life > (which at least he exhibited some true character and sincerity in the > memorial service) and use good common sense to lead this country along > an even keel that will benefit that country as a whole, thus > disregarding the extremes of both the ultra left and the ultra right, > which we don't need! > > I have little use for people whose thinking is on the fringe like > Falwell or Hillary Clinton, who consistently preach their way or no > way. I certainly don't want to see either of them as president... but > that's my personal view! I think we can all say that this is is > certainly not limited only one party or philosophy. > > I am glad to see that we are not just aimlessly bombing who ever the > hell we want right now as others have done in the past.... not > mentioning any names here.... > > What ever we do has to be well thought out and with carried out with > intelligence and conviction to complete the objective. > these are tough times and I'm glad to see the country for the most part > united! It is a real sobering sight to see American flags hanging from > overpasses going down the highway. > > Take care and God bless us all! > > I'm going away for vacation to the beach with my family so you guys are > free to flame me while I'm gone :>) > > Wayne > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: "Normalcy": the Rabbinal View From: <OrganMD@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:01:41 EDT     --part1_169.f5c0c2.28d66d35_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Sebastian and others.......   I for one, even from distant Salt Lake City, shall forever remember what = took place on September 11, 2001. I feel quite sure that all caring people = will be of the same mind. We do still remember Pearl Harbor.   I pray God's peace and love to be with you and all who have had to have = any sort of a first hand experience with this great tragedy.   Sincerely,   Bill Hesterman   --part1_169.f5c0c2.28d66d35_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3>Sebastian and = others....... <BR> <BR>I for one, even from distant Salt Lake City, shall forever remember = what took place on September 11, 2001. &nbsp;I feel quite sure that all = caring people will be of the same mind. &nbsp;We do still remember Pearl = Harbor. <BR> <BR>I pray God's peace and love to be with you and all who have had to = have any sort of a first hand experience with this great tragedy. <BR> <BR>Sincerely, <BR> <BR>Bill Hesterman</FONT></HTML>   --part1_169.f5c0c2.28d66d35_boundary--  
(back) Subject: A Day Of Mourning From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:06:13 -0400   Thanks again to "WWIII" (William) for sending this link to me. It shows that we are not alone....BRAVO!!   http://www.poenews.com/    
(back) Subject: this morning, and Thursday night (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:16:08 -0700   In all the craziness, I forgot to report that St. Matthew's CHOIR was evacuated from OUR building on Thursday night during choir rehearsal ... since we share the building with the Orange County offices of the Los Angeles Times, it was frightening to think THAT might be under attack. It turned out to be a gas leak, and after a short interval, we resumed rehearsal.   This morning was everything it should have been ... grief, anger, patriotism, comfort ...   UNTIL one of my tenors FREAKED out.   We were repeating the first set of Sentences, "I am the Resurrection and the Life" (which we'd sung previously for the Prelude) during Communion because there were so many people waiting to receive.   It's our custom to sing the last two lines forte. I'd cautioned them in rehearsal not to let "Blessed be the Name of the Lord" die away. They were flagging ... not surprising, since they'd sung so much music ... both sets of Sentences, three Psalms ... I raised my hand, palm up, which is my signal for "forte" when I'm playing the organ. He suddenly SCREAMED the last line at the top of his lungs.   The choir stopped singing; the congregation turned around and STARED; I was so startled I could scarcely finish the Mass, and I STILL had to get through "A Mighty Fortress", the National Anthem, and the Battle Hymn of the Republic, not to mention the LATE Mass.   This isn't the first time this has happened ... it happens occasionally in rehearsal ... but it had never happened in CHURCH, during MASS.   The man (I think) suffered some sort of brain damage in a very serious auto accident some years ago, and it sometimes manifests itself in unreasoned fury at something completely unrelated.   I frankly don't know what to do ... he and his extended family comprise half the choir; on the other hand, I have NEVER, in forty-seven years, had Mass so TOTALLY disrupted in such a fashion, and I WILL not again.   I have asked the Rector for a conference; unless he directs me otherwise, I am going to suspend the man from the choir until such time as a healthcare professional has examined him and assured the Rector, the choir and myself that it won't happen again.   He was THIS close to physical violence; fortunately, he would have had to get through three stout basses and a forest of music and microphone stands to get to me at the organ console ... once Mass begins, I'm more-or-less trapped on the bench, until the basses move their stands for me to get out for communion ... the stalls are full now, and we're VERY crowded.   Several people asked me after Mass what happened ... all I could do was shake my head and say "I don't KNOW."   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: this morning, and Thursday night (X-posted) From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:29:41 -0400   Hey listen...the guy scream during mass or whatever..heck, he screamed.....right now, we all feel like screaming maybe....   GOD STILL LOVES HIM NO MATTER WHAT.....