PipeChat Digest #2393 - Friday, September 21, 2001
 
Re: hymnal supplement suggestions (X-posted)
  by <MFoxy9795@aol.com>
Mystery organ?
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
Re: hymnal supplement suggestions (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: hymnal supplement suggestions (X-posted)
  by <MFoxy9795@aol.com>
Fwd: ESTEY Style 8 REED ORGAN for sale.
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: Mystery organ?
  by "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com>
Virgil fox tickets
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Concert in New York
  by "Mark W. McClellan" <omicron@netins.net>
RE: hymnal supplement suggestions (X-posted)
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: Many Thanks To You All!  Re: The Show Went On
  by "Margarete Thomsen" <mthomsen@umich.edu>
Ken Cowan played the new Nichols and Simpson organ
  by "Elders, Craig" <c.elders@tcu.edu>
Re: PipeChat Digest #2383 - 09/17/01
  by "Wayne Grauel" <wgvideo@attglobal.net>
Callahan Plays Stanford Sonatas; Sch=FCbler Chorales in NYC
  by "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org>
Re: AOL 6.0 problems
  by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Re: Felix Hell - The Love Feast We All Needed
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
Re: Felix Hell - The Love Feast We All Needed
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
RE: hymnal supplement suggestions (X-posted)
  by "Jonathan Roussos" <jroussos@san.rr.com>
Re: AOL 6.0 problems
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net>
hehehehe!!!
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: hymnal supplement suggestions (X-posted) From: <MFoxy9795@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 06:37:07 EDT   In a message dated 01-09-19 18:22:55 EDT, you write:   > > This may seem like re-inventing the wheel, but we can't use The Hymnal > 1982...   would you mind explaining why not? merry  
(back) Subject: Mystery organ? From: "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 06:21:03 -0400   Hi, List- can ayonel help this guy out? I'm not at all sure what he heard.   P   > where the sound was comeing from it was lik about 3 feet away from the >organ player it was on a stage.. This is when we were having a church >convocation in Mt. larual NJ >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> >To: "Michael Lewis" <ferrariboxer@hotmail.com> >Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 8:00 AM >Subject: Re: VT Organ Crawl Report (long, xpost) > > >> Sounds like a reed organ. Was the whole thing in one place? Reed organs >can >> be very small, about the size of a spinet piano or a little shorter, = but >> they're often a bit squarer in appearance. Where was it, by the way? >> >> Paul >> >> >Hi i'm sorry to bother you...as I still have not fully joined the >> >list...it keeps rejecting me...we anyway I wanted to know what type of >> >orgen this was. I was at a curch service. The guy was playing the = organ >> >and sound was comeing out of a wooden box about maybe 4ft. high or = so.. >it >> >had something moveing inside like on a rail when he stoped playing for = a >> >little. They would slow down and stop. But as soon as he started = playing >> >again they were moveing back and forth very quicky. What type of organ = is >> >that? >> >Michael c. Lewis >> >> >> http://www.sover.net/~popel >> >> >>     http://www.sover.net/~popel      
(back) Subject: Re: hymnal supplement suggestions (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 03:45:30 -0700   Because I am organist/choirmaster at St. Matthew's ANGLICAN CATHOLIC = Church (not affiliated with ECUSA), *and* ... about as many of our people exited ECUSA over the HYMNAL as did over the Prayer Book (grin) ... the '82 book = is known among us as "The Heretical Hymnal" (chuckle).   Quite aside from all that, I think the '82 book was a victim of haste, = poor planning, and even poorer engraving, and I can say that, because I taught myself music engraving (grin) so I could do OUR Hymnal Supplement.   Cheers,   Bud-by-the-Beach   MFoxy9795@aol.com wrote:   > In a message dated 01-09-19 18:22:55 EDT, you write: > > > > > This may seem like re-inventing the wheel, but we can't use The = Hymnal > > 1982... > > would you mind explaining why not? > merry > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: hymnal supplement suggestions (X-posted) From: <MFoxy9795@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 06:59:54 EDT   In a message dated 01-09-20 06:45:09 EDT, you write:   > > Because I am organist/choirmaster at St. Matthew's ANGLICAN CATHOLIC = Church > (not affiliated with ECUSA), *and* ... about as many of our people = exited > ECUSA over the HYMNAL as did over the Prayer Book (grin) ... the '82 = book is > known among us as "The Heretical Hymnal" (chuckle). > o i see   > Quite aside from all that, I think the '82 book was a victim of haste, = poor > planning, and even poorer engraving, and I can say that, because I = taught > myself music engraving (grin) so I could do OUR Hymnal Supplement.   yes, the '82 is not the greatest thing to come down the pike. some of = those new hymns are STRANGE. also, the print is VERY small.  
(back) Subject: Fwd: ESTEY Style 8 REED ORGAN for sale. From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 06:33:18 -0500   The following appeared on the EORG-L list yesterday. With the original posters consent I am posting it here. If you are interested please respond to the address in the forward below, not to the list.   David   >Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:11:20 -0700 >From: Hal Davis <haldavis@Modempool.com> > > >Is anyone interested in buying my Estey Style 8 Concert Reed Organ. > >Two manual keyboards plus pedal keyboard. > >Hasn't been played for more than twenty years and will need a complete >going over. > >It's been sitting in my living room and my wife doesn't see the humor of >it any more. > >I paid $3500 for it twenty years ago. Price now is $1,000. It's >located in Leslie, MI about halfway between Jackson and Lansing. > >Included are the console, pedalboard, Spencer Orgo-blo, bench (needs >some wood repair), and even the original hand crank. > >If interested please contact me directly. > >Hal Davis >%Leslie Organ Company >Box 1 >Leslie, MI 49251-0001 Tel: 517-589-8179 Email: haldavis@modempool.com   -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Mystery organ? From: "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 07:55:09 -0400   At 06:21 AM 20/09/2001 -0400, Paul Opel wrote: >can ayonel help this guy out? I'm not at all sure what he heard. I love a good game of "name that organ"...especially on the rare occasions where I have a clue! lol   I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess he heard a Hammond of some description (B3? C3? similar?) through a standard Leslie. Some players kick the Leslie down to a standstill (or at least slow) when they're not playing to cut down on the mechanical noise. A non-speaking Leslie doing its Tasmanian Devil impression in decent acoustics can be, shall we say, "lacking in subtlety". :))   The standard 122/147 style Leslie cabinet is 41" tall by 29" = wide, 20.5" deep. The gizmos inside don't move back and forth, they actually rotate. Some Leslies have slow and fast speeds, some have stop and fast, some have stop, slow, and fast (or off, chorale and tremolo)   An nifty animation of Leslie horns is at Goff Professional's = site: http://www.goffprof.com/   A good pic of a B3 (same as a C3, give or take legs): http://theatreorgans.com/hammond/faq/pictures/b3console.jpg   A great pic of a Leslie 142 exterior (same as 122, but slightly shorter): http://www.captain-foldback.com/Leslie_sub/pics/142_2.jpg   The inside of my Leslie 147 (unbalanced input 122): http://www.geocities.com/khyrstye/pics/hamles/back147.jpg   My CV (same cabinet as C3, missing 2 electronic gizmos) and 122: http://www.geocities.com/khyrstye/pics/hamles/cv122.jpg   The Hammond/Leslie FAQ: http://theatreorgans.com/hammond/faq/   If I'm wrong, how about more clues? Type of church? Style of = music?   Have fun! Ad ;->    
(back) Subject: Virgil fox tickets From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:09:31 -0700   Hi People,   A good friend has found that he cannot attend the Virgil Fox Memorial concert in Philadelphia. As such he has given me the tickets to dispose of with proceeds to go to our high school organ project. These are a pair of the $35 tickets. I thought of putting them on E bay, but would like to see first if I can ellicit some bids from our members here.   So email me if interested in placing a bid for a great performance with proceeds for fine causes all the way around.   Regards and thanks   John Vanderlee  
(back) Subject: Re: Concert in New York From: "Mark W. McClellan" <omicron@netins.net> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:48:31 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan B. Hall" > > And if you do come, why not patronize a city restaurant too? They are > suffering horribly from the drop in business. Hotels and restaurants = are > standing empty, and FIVE Broadway shows are closing! New York is = sitting > shiva...mourning... > > I eat very cheaply in Manhattan, but bought a princely lunch today at an > Italian restaurant...largely because the manager was standing staring > forlornly out the window with no customers, and they've been kind to my > church in the past. Great food, worth every penny....they make the > insalata caprese with homemade mozzarella, roasted peppers instead of > tomato, topped with luscious capers and a splash of ultra-virgin olive = oil > and balsamic vinegar.....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... then the chicken = piccata, > with *more* capers....oh, God, I've gone to heaven......   Not a bad idea Jonathan. I've always gone to NY for a few days each year = to relax. Now might be a good time for everyone. Thanks for the idea!      
(back) Subject: RE: hymnal supplement suggestions (X-posted) From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:11:18 -0500   The Accompaniment Edition (two volumes) is much easier to read (and play from).   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: MFoxy9795@aol.com [mailto:MFoxy9795@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 6:00 AM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: hymnal supplement suggestions (X-posted)     In a message dated 01-09-20 06:45:09 EDT, you write:   > > Because I am organist/choirmaster at St. Matthew's ANGLICAN CATHOLIC Church > (not affiliated with ECUSA), *and* ... about as many of our people = exited > ECUSA over the HYMNAL as did over the Prayer Book (grin) ... the '82 = book   is > known among us as "The Heretical Hymnal" (chuckle). > o i see   > Quite aside from all that, I think the '82 book was a victim of haste, poor > planning, and even poorer engraving, and I can say that, because I = taught > myself music engraving (grin) so I could do OUR Hymnal Supplement.   yes, the '82 is not the greatest thing to come down the pike. some of = those   new hymns are STRANGE. also, the print is VERY small.   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Many Thanks To You All! Re: The Show Went On From: "Margarete Thomsen" <mthomsen@umich.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:28:30 -0400       Scott, where are you located now?   MARGARETE THOMSEN `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`=   ~`~`~ Consultant, Mac OS and Communications ITCS, The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI http://www.umich.edu/~mthomsen  
(back) Subject: Ken Cowan played the new Nichols and Simpson organ From: "Elders, Craig" <c.elders@tcu.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 15:01:44 -0500   Last Friday evening I drove to Dallas to hear Ken Cowan play the new = Nichols and Simpson organ. I arrived early and got to meat Joe Nichols and Wayne Simpson. Also attending was our list owner David Scribner and co-administrator Tim Bovard, both of Nichols and Simpson.   This was the first major performance on the new organ in the new building. It is a great room for the new organ which is up front. (You can see a picture of the organ and the room by looking at the builders Web site, www.nicholsandsimpson.com and look under stoplists and photos. The church is the Northridge Presbyterian Church.)   Ken Cowan once again played an exciting program. Only one piece was common with the program I heard Ken played in Fort Worth, 3 days earlier. He is just amazing! Everything so clean and smooth and such a variety of registrations and music. He sure worked over the organ to show off everything it had. And again, he played everything from memory and = without any type of registration notes. How does he do that?   After the program Joe Nichols took me up all through the organ. You should see the workmanship. I would think that not many people would have = furniture in their homes that is finished any finer than the woodwork in the organ - from the chests, frames, supports, right down to the ladders! I was taken back a little that Joe would take the time to show me and a couple of = other people his new baby. That was a wonderful ending to a most enjoyable evening.   The organ is spectacular in that room. I have heard a lot about Nichols = and Simpson organs and now I know why. Ken used everything on the organ = during his program. I could listen to the 8' Great Diapason and/or then the 8' Swell Geigen Diapason all night. He used each one individually during the program. The entire diapason chorus was gorgeous, filling the room. The buildup from strings to flutes to diapasons and then adding reeds to full organ was so smooooth. Nothing jumping out and when finished, no holes or weak places anywhere on the manuals or pedal. (I sure hope to get a test drive this organ one of these days - from the console.)   Again, a wonderful evening hearing a talented Ken Cowan on a magnificent instrument. Plus getting to meet and visit with the proud builders and several organ lovers from our list. A thrilling evening! A short time = for us to get away from the horror of last week.   I wish all a good rest of the week! Craig Elders  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #2383 - 09/17/01 From: "Wayne Grauel" <wgvideo@attglobal.net> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:25:25 -0400   <<<<< On behalf of decent Hammond folk everywhere, I object to your suggestion of cursing us us with those hateful individuals. >>>>>   Ok... out there, talk about anythng but hammonds...    
(back) Subject: Callahan Plays Stanford Sonatas; Sch=FCbler Chorales in NYC From: "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:31:40 -0400   Charles Callahan's famous recordings of three Organ Sonatas by Charles V. Stanford (Sonata Brittanica, Sonata Celtica, and Sonata Eroica), played o= n the 1911 Arthur Harrison organ at St. Marry Redcliffe Church in Bristol, England, are now available on CD. Digitally recorded in 1986 by Pro Organ= o, they have been previously released on cassette tape only. The new CD is i= n stock and available at http://www.ohscatalog.org   Also new today is "The Amsterdam Bach," a Pro Organo recording of the Bac= h Six Sch=FCbler Chorales and other Bach works played by Nicholas White, organist of St. Michael's Episcopal Church in New York City. The 1967 Beckerath is among the very finest examples.   Bill    
(back) Subject: Re: AOL 6.0 problems From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:38:22 -0500   I really appreciate the information about AOL 6.0 problems. I have been having a severe problem with my computer which caused the cursor pointer = to freeze up and I would have to reboot to restore operation. It was really frustrating as it was happening on a frequent basis. I uninstalled AOL 6.0 and went back to 5.0. Problem appears to be gone and =   computer is much more responsive. Since I use AOL as a backup I did not realilze it could cause such havoc.   regards,   jch    
(back) Subject: Re: Felix Hell - The Love Feast We All Needed From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:00:02 -0700 (PDT)     --- Malcolm Wechsler <manderusa@earthlink.net> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackson R. Williams II" > <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 8:14 PM > Subject: Re: Felix Hell - The Love Feast We All > Needed > > > > > > --- Malcolm Wechsler <manderusa@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > <<I presume the top two lines of this are a joke.>>   Yes, Malcom. That was meant tongue-in-cheek!   __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/  
(back) Subject: Re: Felix Hell - The Love Feast We All Needed From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:11:39 -0700 (PDT)   Doug and everybody: I wasn't criticizing Felix. I was just reacting to what I felt about ONE PARTICULAR COMMENT of Malcolm's. And part of that was written tongue in cheek which MALCOLM also perceived. For the record, I like Felix's playing.   But let's say, for arguments sake, that I didn't like his playing. Wouldn't I also have the right to express that on this list the way all of you do when you've disliked someone's performance? And dosn't one have the right to have his opinion respected even though some may be in disagreement? Should any of us resort to insulting someone else? Of course not.   --- Douglas A Campbell <dougcampbell@juno.com> wrote: > Perhaps, Jackson, if you had been there and HEARD it > - you might have a > different opinion. > > I was...and...I DO ! > > Douglas A. Campbell > Skaneateles, NY > > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:14:52 -0700 (PDT) "Jackson R. > Williams II" > <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> writes: > > > > --- Malcolm Wechsler <manderusa@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > <<When Felix settled into the great Passacaglia, > it > > felt like the master had taken over>> > > > > Even though I have great respect for Malcom and > enjoy > > his reviews, I feel this is a bit of a slap in the > > face of the other players. > > > > The fact is Felix is a highly talented teenager, > but > > some of the other payers mentioned perform with a > > superb maturity and sensitivity that Felix will > some > > day grow into. He's not there yet, even though he > is > > beyond his years. It's simply a question of age > and > > life experience. Felix will become a great mature > > artist as he becomes older rather than a great > young > > talent. > > > > As much as I like Malcom, I can't help wonder if > Hans > > has hired him to be Felix's public relations > agent. > > His reviews simply salivate all over the place and > > slobber up an otherwise objective reviewers' > opinion. > > > > It really is a bit over the top, Malcom dear. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > > Donate cash, emergency relief information > > > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related > > topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/  
(back) Subject: RE: hymnal supplement suggestions (X-posted) From: "Jonathan Roussos" <jroussos@san.rr.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:11:42 -0700   Everything is relative, All one has to do is use the "stuff" that comes out of Oregon Catholic = Press for a while to realize just how bad things can be. At least most of the older hymns = in the 1982 hymnal aren't totally mangeleg as they are in this schlock. It is amazing just = how far some people will go to make the text correct???, understandable???   I have recently taken the Organist Director job at a small Anglo Catholic church, Christ the King Mission, in Alpine CA {still ECUSA} http://www.christthekingalpine.org/and It is so nice to be back to the 1940 hymnal.   We have a fine vicar and the near new 3 manual drawknob Allen doesn't = hurt. If one is going to play circuits, it helps to have good ones.   Jon Roussos   Bud Clark said, >Because I am organist/choirmaster at St. Matthew's ANGLICAN CATHOLIC = Church >(not affiliated with ECUSA), *and* ... about as many of our people exited >ECUSA over the HYMNAL as did over the Prayer Book (grin) ... the '82 book is >known among us as "The Heretical Hymnal" (chuckle).   >Quite aside from all that, I think the '82 book was a victim of haste, = poor >planning, and even poorer engraving, and I can say that, because I taught >myself music engraving (grin) so I could do OUR Hymnal Supplement.      
(back) Subject: Re: AOL 6.0 problems From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 02:52:47 -0400   If you are going to a chat room and these problems are frequently = happening, you might consider installing a firewall on your computer. While these problems most often happen in a chat room, they can happen anywhere on the internet. Frequent freezing, locking up and the famous blue screen of = death are usually a sign that your computer is being attacked by a hacker. = Check out my link below for my internet safety lessons, print the lesson on = firewalls, read it and if you have questions, e-mail me.   jch wrote:   > I really appreciate the information about AOL 6.0 problems. I have been > having a severe problem with my computer which caused the cursor pointer = to > freeze up and I would have to reboot to restore operation. It was really > frustrating as it was happening on a frequent basis. > I uninstalled AOL 6.0 and went back to 5.0. Problem appears to be gone = and > computer is much more responsive. Since I use AOL as a backup I did not > realilze it could cause such havoc. > > regards, > > jch > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- ***************************************************** Healthcare references for everyone. "Recipient of the year 2000 Featured Site Award at healthAtoZ.com" http://home.earthlink.net/~marika57/m_erika.html   Internet Safety Lessons. Must reading for everyone. http://home.earthlink.net/~marika57/safetylessons.html *****************************************************      
(back) Subject: hehehehe!!! From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 03:59:02 -0400   Q: How do you get an organist off your front porch? A: Pay him/her for the pizza.   :oP