PipeChat Digest #2401 - Thursday, September 27, 2001
 
Re: Solos with easy workable organ accompaniments
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Hymns that reflect the readings
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Hymns that reflect the readings
  by <MFoxy9795@aol.com>
"Tinkling Cymbal" Sunday
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Hymns that reflect the readings
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Hymns that reflect the readings
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: playing in Christian Science churches
  by <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw>
Re: Hymns that reflect the readings
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Solos with easy workable organ accompaniments
  by "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Solos with easy workable organ accompaniments From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:25:08 EDT     --part1_8.1aa64da2.28e3cbe4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 9/26/01 7:43:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Myosotis51@aol.com writes:     > Since most, if not all, of the hymns are based on > Biblical text, why not reiterate that Sunday's readings in the hymns? >   This is one of my greatest pet peeves in present liturgical practice. = The readings are read and then expounded upon in the sermon. Having them restated in the hymns is tedious. There are many, many ways to expand = upon the message of the readings without reiterating them ad nauseum.   Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi     --part1_8.1aa64da2.28e3cbe4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 9/26/01 7:43:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Myosotis51@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Since most, if not = all, of the hymns are based on <BR>Biblical text, why not reiterate that Sunday's readings in the hymns? = &nbsp; <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>This is one of my greatest pet peeves in present liturgical practice. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The readings are read and then expounded upon in the = sermon. &nbsp;&nbsp;Having them restated in the hymns is tedious. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;There are many, many ways to expand upon the message of = the readings without reiterating them ad nauseum. <BR> <BR>Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_8.1aa64da2.28e3cbe4_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Hymns that reflect the readings From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 17:46:04 -0700     --------------631C507D682FDF8C0BCFCE8D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I disagree with Bruce on this, but THAT'S well-known (grin).   For instance, on "Tinkling Cymbal" Sunday, I would choose   Pro - "O Love, How Deep, How Broad, How High" Grad - "Love Divine" (to "Beecher", if I could get it past the Rector .... he HATES that tune) (grin) Com - "O Love That Wilt Not Let Me Go" (grin) Rec - "The King of Love My Shepherd Is" ( to "Dominus regit me")   off the top of my head.   Cheers,   Bud-by-the-Beach   Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 9/26/01 7:43:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Myosotis51@aol.com writes: > > > >> Since most, if not all, of the hymns are based on >> Biblical text, why not reiterate that Sunday's readings in the >> hymns? > > This is one of my greatest pet peeves in present liturgical > practice. The readings are read and then expounded upon in the > sermon. Having them restated in the hymns is tedious. There are > many, many ways to expand upon the message of the readings without > reiterating them ad nauseum. > > Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at > http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ > > Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi   --------------631C507D682FDF8C0BCFCE8D Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> I disagree with Bruce on this, but THAT'S well-known (grin). <p>For instance, on "Tinkling Cymbal" Sunday, I would choose <p>Pro - "O Love, How Deep, How Broad, How High" <br>Grad - "Love Divine" (to "Beecher", if I could get it past the Rector .... he HATES that tune) (grin) <br>Com - "O Love That Wilt Not Let Me Go" (grin) <br>Rec - "The King of Love My Shepherd Is" ( to "Dominus regit me") <p>off the top of my head. <p>Cheers, <p>Bud-by-the-Beach <p>Cremona502@cs.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>In = a message dated 9/26/01 7:43:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Myosotis51@aol.com = writes:</font></font> <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font = face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Since most, if not all, of the hymns are based on</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Biblical text, why not = reiterate that Sunday's readings in the hymns?</font></font></blockquote>   <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>This is = one of my greatest pet peeves in present liturgical practice.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The readings are read and then expounded upon in the sermon.&nbsp;&nbsp; Having them restated in the hymns is tedious.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; There are many, many ways to expand upon the message of the readings without = reiterating them ad nauseum.</font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Please = visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at&nbsp;&nbsp; <A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/">http://members.tripod.com/Bru= con502/</A></font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Bruce = Cornely&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ~&nbsp; Cremona502@cs.com</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>with the = Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!"</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi</font></font></font></blockquote> </html>   --------------631C507D682FDF8C0BCFCE8D--    
(back) Subject: Re: Hymns that reflect the readings From: <MFoxy9795@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:12:14 EDT   In a message dated 01-09-26 20:52:35 EDT, you write:   > "Tinkling Cymbal" Sunday   what is this??!  
(back) Subject: "Tinkling Cymbal" Sunday From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 18:23:34 -0700   The Sunday that "if I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not charity, I am become as sounding brass or a tinkling cymbal" is read for the Epistle.   Following Eastern Orthodox custom, I've taken to naming Sundays that way in our filing system ... makes it easier to remember which anthems are for which Sundays ... we use the old one-year lectionary.   So, we have   Prodigal Son Sunday St. Thomas Sunday (Easter I) Loaves and Fishes Sunday   etc.   Cheers,   Bud-by-the-Beach   MFoxy9795@aol.com wrote:   > In a message dated 01-09-26 20:52:35 EDT, you write: > > > "Tinkling Cymbal" Sunday > > what is this??! > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Hymns that reflect the readings From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:29:41 EDT     --part1_16b.183b149.28e3e915_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 9/26/01 8:46:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:     > For instance, on "Tinkling Cymbal" Sunday, I would choose Pro - "O Love, = How > Deep, How Broad, How High" > Grad - "Love Divine" (to "Beecher", if I could get it past the Rector = ... > he HATES that tune) (grin) > Com - "O Love That Wilt Not Let Me Go" (grin) > Rec - "The King of Love My Shepherd Is" ( to "Dominus regit me") >   Why? To see how many times you can sing the word "love". Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi     --part1_16b.183b149.28e3e915_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 9/26/01 8:46:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">For instance, on = "Tinkling Cymbal" Sunday, I would choose Pro - "O Love, How Deep, How = Broad, How High" <BR>Grad - "Love Divine" (to "Beecher", if I could get it past the Rector = ... he HATES that tune) (grin) <BR>Com - "O Love That Wilt Not Let Me Go" (grin) <BR>Rec - "The King of Love My Shepherd Is" ( to "Dominus regit me") <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Why? &nbsp;&nbsp;To see how many times you can sing the word "love". <BR>Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_16b.183b149.28e3e915_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Hymns that reflect the readings From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 00:18:38 EDT   In a message dated 9/26/01 10:31:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Cremona502@cs.com writes:     Why? To see how many times you can sing the word "love".   -----   Wait a minute, Bruce, that's not such a bad thing. :-)   I think that Bud's way, that of matching certain hymns to the proscribed Scripture readings, exposes a congregation to a very large selection from = the hymnal. Especially when you add in, as he does, "new" hymns that may = reflect the text but may not be familiar.   What's the alternative - going in some numerical order?   Vicki (Who has finally learned, I *think*, how to post to the list without HTML)  
(back) Subject: Re: playing in Christian Science churches From: <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 12:39:51 +0800 (CST)       On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 MFoxy9795@aol.com wrote:   > In a message dated 01-09-26 12:27:31 EDT, you write: > > I have played a number of times in Christian Science churches. I do = know > that the solo text must be either directly from Scripture or a text by = Mary > Baker Eddy. Many of the hymns in the C.S. hymnal are unfamiliar to > musicians from other churches. I have almost always been given the = hymns > with at least a few days' notice. However, if I had not had a CS hymnal =   > here, the hymn numbers would not have done me much good. > Merry       Fortunately at my request the first Christian Science church I played for has lent me a Christian Science hymnal, since I'm willing to play for them when needed, if they give me advance notice... so I too have no problems learning the hymns as soon as they tell me the numbers..     Best wishes,     Morton Belcher      
(back) Subject: Re: Hymns that reflect the readings From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 01:13:43 EDT     --part1_cd.c929e23.28e40f87_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 9/27/01 12:19:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Myosotis51@aol.com writes:     > Why? To see how many times you can sing the word "love". > > ----- > > Wait a minute, Bruce, that's not such a bad thing. :-) >   I think it is more important to emphasize the meaning of the Scripture lessons and EXPAND the message therein, rather than to see how many times = a key word can be sung in the course of the service.     Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi     --part1_cd.c929e23.28e40f87_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 9/27/01 12:19:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Myosotis51@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Why? = &nbsp;&nbsp;To see how many times you can sing the word "love". <BR> <BR>----- <BR> <BR>Wait a minute, Bruce, that's not such a bad thing. &nbsp;:-) <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I think it is more important to emphasize the meaning of the Scripture = lessons and EXPAND the message therein, rather than to see how many times = a key word can be sung in the course of the service. <BR> <BR> <BR>Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_cd.c929e23.28e40f87_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Solos with easy workable organ accompaniments From: "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 07:43:12 +0100   Dear "All", That's not the only thing which can get chosen 'on-the-fly'....... Some of the (Primitive) Methodists I sometimes play for can get really 'carried-away' by some of their hymns, and the rear rows of the congregation (usually the men !) decide that they haven't finished the hymn - just because the verses have run out ! They go back to whichever verses have 'moved them' and they keep on singing....... It doesn't stop there ! Once they've 'got-their-head' they can keep coming back to a 'chorus' and keep it up for two or three more repeats ! Does make for "exciting times" ! But at least they mean it ...... !   Harry   -----Original Message----- From: flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: 26 September 2001 20:04 Subject: Re: Solos with easy workable organ accompaniments     > > >On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 Myosotis51@aol.com wrote: > >> In a message dated 9/26/01 12:14:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >> flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw writes: >> >> >> The hymns are usually chosen by the First Reader, and I don't have any >> problem usually learning a new hymn overnight as I had to do with one >> church who would phone me the hymns on Friday night... >> >> >> In the church that I play for, two of the hymns are listed in the bulletin >> and I find out what they are 10 minutes before the service. The other two >> are chosen "as the Spirit moves" DURING the service. EEEEK!!! > >I assume you are playing at a Christian Science church... > I would be a bit skittish if the other two hymns were chosen on the > fly, because I don't know enough of the hymns in the Christian Science > hymnal... > >Yes, as for "as the Spirit moves," that was one reason why I was given >the hymns later at one church... This summer I played the evening >services for one month at another Christian Science church... The present >First Reader was nice about giving me the hymns early... but she said the >order of the hymns would be made known before the evening service >started... > > >> >> Vicki > >Best wishes, > > >Morton Belcher > > > > >> >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> >> > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >