PipeChat Digest #2404 - Saturday, September 29, 2001
 
Strange pastoral request
  by "Patricia/Thomas Gregory" <tgregory@speeddial.net>
Newark Results
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
Re: Strange pastoral request
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Strange pastoral request
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
NJ Organ Info
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #2403 - 09/28/01
  by "Bruce Behnke" <behnke@lvcm.com>
Re: Strange pastoral request (speaking of professional behavior)
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net>
 

(back) Subject: Strange pastoral request From: "Patricia/Thomas Gregory" <tgregory@speeddial.net> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:56:31 -0500   Greetings:   After 32 years I have resigned my position as organist/choir director/handbell director due to the hiring of pastor(s) who prefer a = more contemporary musical style.   The church now has a screen for hymns and seldom uses our hymnal "Rejoice = In The Lord".   The Skinner (IV/44) will be seldom used; instead piano/w/other instruments seem to be in the future.   The pastor said the new musician would have little difficulty playing the organ because he/she could just come in on Sunday morning and use the combination action to set the stops.   I told to the pastor that I would be clearing my pistons after my final program (which was last Sunday afternoon). I explained that my registrations and combination settings were "as personal as a toothbrush", but I would be leaving detailed instructions regarding care of the instrument.   Quick question....Am I wrong in clearing the combinations?   Sincerely,     Tom Gregory     -- Thomas Gregory 716 West College Avenue Waukesha WI USA 53186-4569  
(back) Subject: Newark Results From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:24:54 EDT     --part1_3a.1b70bfa9.28e69906_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hey Gang, our concert was GREAT! We had about 2000 in attendance this = evening at the gorgeous NJ PAC, which does not have an organ, but its still a = great hall and facility. We had 5hrs off between dress rehearsal with the NJ = Symph and our performance, so I went church looking. I really feel as if I'm an odd-ball when I go do this...the few other organists who I know all wanted = to go eat, bum around, or go shopping...so screw em. I went alone for a bit = and also with my other half, and we had fun! So here are my results: -Church across from NJ PAC is Trinity and St. Paul's Cathedral = (Episcopal)- moderately sized old building with a dead acoustic, mixed color schemes, = and what looks to be a 50's or 60's Moller III/50 in the rear gallery. There = was nothing all that interesting about the organ, typical moller and spec. -St. Patrick's Pro Cathedral, right by Rutgers U. was locked... -Second presbyterian...WOW! What a great building, down a block or so from =   the PAC, across from a park and North Reformed Church. The building is = Gothic and from what a local minister told me has a sizeable organ of about 60 = some odd ranks in the front, completely stone, grogeous stained glass, and = great acoustics. The church went bankrupt about 4 yrs ago and has sat ever = since. The organ had just been redone when it closed... the Presbytery now owns = it. -North Reformed...dead room, but very pretty, and very cool pastor. III/53 =   1922 Casavant in the back...VERY mildly voiced, two small mixtures, mild reeds, moderately tubby, had a console with 2' couplers, five divisions, = in dcent condition and maintained by Ron Bishop. Congregation is alive, = although church acoustics are NOT! -First Presbyterian...another WOW building! This huge building has two massive stone towers that are totally opposing to ech other, different = forms, different carvings, nothing is similar. The room has a huge dome with a = great orange/yellow window at the top. There are massive styone carvings all = around the outside. The church has a small congregation, with many college = students. A new pastor who is very inviting was just installed. There is an organist =   who uses the same registration for everything. The old pipe organ is still =   present, just consoleless...it looks to be BIG! There are dual facades on either side of the room with big 16' Woods inside and 16' metals in the facade, looks as if there is an echo organ in the ceiling as well. = Needless to say, there is a "Devtronix" organ console there, and I didn't want to = even waste my time. Anyone know anything about the place?   Places still to be checked out...First Prebyterian...rumored to = have a 130 rank Austin...St.John's Parish immediately across from the NJ = PAC...any other ideas?   -Pete Isherwood   --part1_3a.1b70bfa9.28e69906_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hey Gang, our concert = was GREAT! We had about 2000 in attendance this evening at the gorgeous NJ = PAC, which does not have an organ, but its still a great hall and = facility. We had 5hrs off between dress rehearsal with the NJ Symph and = our performance, so I went church looking. I really feel as if I'm an = odd-ball when I go do this...the few other organists who I know all wanted = to go eat, bum around, or go shopping...so screw em. I went alone for a = bit and also with my other half, and we had fun! So here are my results: <BR>-Church across from NJ PAC is Trinity and St. Paul's Cathedral = (Episcopal)- moderately sized old building with a dead acoustic, mixed = color schemes, and what looks to be a 50's or 60's Moller III/50 in the = rear gallery. There was nothing all that interesting about the organ, = typical moller and spec. <BR>-St. Patrick's Pro Cathedral, right by Rutgers U. was locked... <BR>-Second presbyterian...WOW! What a great building, down a block or so = from the PAC, across from a park and North Reformed Church. The building is Gothic = and from what a local minister told me has a sizeable organ of about 60 = some odd ranks in the front, completely stone, grogeous stained glass, and = great acoustics. The church went bankrupt about 4 yrs ago and has sat ever = since. The organ had just been redone when it closed... the Presbytery now = owns it. <BR>-North Reformed...dead room, but very pretty, and very cool pastor. = III/53 1922 Casavant in the back...VERY mildly voiced, two small mixtures, = mild reeds, moderately tubby, had a console with 2' couplers, five = divisions, in dcent condition and maintained by Ron Bishop. Congregation = is alive, although church acoustics are NOT! <BR>-First Presbyterian...another WOW building! This huge building has two = massive stone towers that are totally opposing to ech other, different = forms, different carvings, nothing is similar. The room has a huge dome = with a great orange/yellow window at the top. There are massive styone = carvings all around the outside. The church has a small congregation, with = many college students. A new pastor who is very inviting was just = installed. There is an organist who uses the same registration for = everything. The old pipe organ is still present, just consoleless...it = looks to be BIG! There are dual facades on either side of the room with = big 16' Woods inside and 16' metals in the facade, looks as if there is an = echo organ in the ceiling as well. Needless to say, there is a "Devtronix" = organ console there, and I didn't want to even waste my time. Anyone know = anything about the place? <BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Places still to be checked = out...First Prebyterian...rumored to have a 130 rank Austin...St.John's = Parish immediately across from the NJ PAC...any other ideas? <BR> <BR>-Pete Isherwood</FONT></HTML>   --part1_3a.1b70bfa9.28e69906_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Strange pastoral request From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:51:20 EDT   No, you're doing the right thing. Let them sink or swim.  
(back) Subject: Re: Strange pastoral request From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 00:17:32 EDT     --part1_77.1bdae985.28e6a55c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I don't think you're wrong in clearing the combination action. Consider = it a courtesy to the new person!   What a sad situation. You have my deepest sympathy. However, Sunday mornings are quite nice!!!   Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi     --part1_77.1bdae985.28e6a55c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>I don't think you're = wrong in clearing the combination action. &nbsp;&nbsp;Consider it a = courtesy to the new person! <BR> <BR>What a sad situation. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;You have my deepest sympathy. = &nbsp;&nbsp;However, Sunday mornings are quite nice!!! <BR> <BR>Please visit the NEWLY RENOVATED Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_77.1bdae985.28e6a55c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: NJ Organ Info From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 01:16:51 EDT     --part1_77.1bda7d14.28e6b343_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hey Gang, After going exploring today in Newark, I wish I knew everything about every organ in every church and other location in NJ. I = was struck by this huge Gothic sturcture in Newark, 2nd Presbyterian, now = closed due to no congregation and bankruptcy, owned by the presbytery, and just rotting. The building is incredible, right in line with the Princeton U. Chapel, St. Thomas 5th Ave, and many other major spaces. From what I hear, =   there is a large Moller of 60+ ranks in the front, and the church is said = to have incredible glass and designwork inside. My point is that there are so =   many of these churches all over the country and world, and unfortunately, time and change have their way with them. What I'm currently interested in = is churches of note in New Jersey, and their instruments. One such church is Crescent Ave Presbyterian in Plainfield. This church had a large Moller/Austin/Skinner/etc. of about 120 ranks which is now being rebuilt = by Adams to land at roughly 90 ranks. The organ will include a 32' reed and open, solo reeds, lots of color reeds, and incredible choruses. The room = in which this organ is in is stunning as well. I'm surwe there are more of = these diamonds in the rough, and I'd love to hear about them, so if you have stories of these churches and great organs, especially in NJ, please send them my way!   -Pete Isherwood   --part1_77.1bda7d14.28e6b343_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hey Gang, <BR> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;After going exploring today in Newark, I = wish I knew everything about every organ in every church and other = location in NJ. I was struck by this huge Gothic sturcture in Newark, 2nd = Presbyterian, now closed due to no congregation and bankruptcy, owned by = the presbytery, and just rotting. The building is incredible, right in = line with the Princeton U. Chapel, St. Thomas 5th Ave, and many other = major spaces. From what I hear, there is a large Moller of 60+ ranks in = the front, and the church is said to have incredible glass and designwork = inside. My point is that there are so many of these churches all over the = country and world, and unfortunately, time and change have their way with = them. What I'm currently interested in is churches of note in New Jersey, = and their instruments. One such church is Crescent Ave Presbyterian in = Plainfield. This church had a large Moller/Austin/Sk <BR> <BR>-Pete Isherwood</FONT></HTML>   --part1_77.1bda7d14.28e6b343_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #2403 - 09/28/01 From: "Bruce Behnke" <behnke@lvcm.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 22:34:00 -0700   on 9/28/01 7:48 PM, PipeChat at pipechat@pipechat.org wrote:   > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> > <html>   plus 100 more lines of html   > class=3D698313619-28092001></span><span class=3D698313619-28092001><font > face=3D"Garamond"><font color=3D"#800000"><font size=3D+0>The > Deaf (and almost jobless)</font></font></font></blockquote> > > </body> > </html>   Can somebody please explain to me why I got this 110 lines of html not = once but 4 times in the last digest. The first one was bad enough but three = more people responding included the entire post in their reply. Am I the only = one that received this or am I the only that it bothers?   Bruce    
(back) Subject: Re: Strange pastoral request (speaking of professional behavior) From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 03:00:52 -0400   I know an organist (no names) who worked at a church for three years. The priests loved him however, the priests had decided that ONE mass on Sunday would be "contemporary" and this upset the organist to the point that he resigned and broke his contract with the church. His resignation was however, not without incident. He screwed up settings on the organ AFTER he had promised he would leave it alone, and literally threw all the sheet music all over the inside of the room where it was stored leaving the choir with the task of picking it up off the floor and putting it all back together. He also convinced the majority of the women in the choir to quit the choir as he apparently controlled and manipulated them in more ways than one.   He left with such a spiteful, miserable attitude meanwhile, the priests were nothing short of bewildered.   Do you think THIS behavior was professional?