PipeChat Digest #2407 - Sunday, September 30, 2001
 
Re: Strange pastoral request
  by "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
Re: Subbing on a Rodgers ...
  by <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw>
Re: piston changing
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Strange pastoral request From: "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 09:23:53 +0100   I completely agree with your conception of your registration settings = being "your settings", and yours to change at will (depending on the programme = you have chosen to play). They can always find a good book to chose "their" settings from - or come 'on-line' to Pipechat and ask us what we might recommend.   Personally, I play both types of performance styles; so I can then dictate what we use and balance the old with the new.   You could always have played "dirty" by remaining on the organ stool and playing the 'new' material ... particularly badly !   "No Surrender !"   Harry   -----Original Message----- From: Patricia/Thomas Gregory <tgregory@speeddial.net> To: Pipechat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: 29 September 2001 03:46 Subject: Strange pastoral request     >Greetings: > >After 32 years I have resigned my position as organist/choir >director/handbell director due to the hiring of pastor(s) who prefer a = more >contemporary musical style. > >The church now has a screen for hymns and seldom uses our hymnal "Rejoice In >The Lord". > >The Skinner (IV/44) will be seldom used; instead piano/w/other = instruments >seem to be in the future. > >The pastor said the new musician would have little difficulty playing the >organ because he/she could just come in on Sunday morning and use the >combination action to set the stops. > >I told to the pastor that I would be clearing my pistons after my final >program (which was last Sunday afternoon). I explained that my >registrations and combination settings were "as personal as a = toothbrush", >but I would be leaving detailed instructions regarding care of the >instrument. > >Quick question....Am I wrong in clearing the combinations? > >Sincerely, > > >Tom Gregory > > >-- >Thomas Gregory >716 West College Avenue >Waukesha WI USA >53186-4569 > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Subbing on a Rodgers ... From: <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 15:18:21 +0800 (CST)       On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, pat and ian wrote:   > Please explain finishing a rank "PROPERLY"? Surely this is a subjective > issue? > Ian.     Yes, I'm the first to admit that finishing a rank "Properly" is, from some points, a subjective issue....   Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word "properly..." Perhaps I should have just said that a rank should be voiced...   At any rate, allow me to comment a bit on what I mean by finishing a rank properly...   With respect to a church organ/ electronic organ, a rank should be voiced so that the rank in question has a tone that sounds nice in a church... a tone that is, considering the rank in question, of proper volume... a tone that blends well with the other ranks in the organ... and a tone which is pleasing for the human ear to listen to.   In my previous post I commented on some of the ranks of this electronic organ that I liked...   May I comment on a rank which I have all often encountered that I don't like? Such a rank may have the name "salicional" or "viole" or "viole d'orchestre" or sometimes even "viola." Two of these ranks together make very nice celestes... but unfortunately one such rank by itself all to often sounds very vile to me (pardon the humon)... because it is so thin and grating to the ear... almost always you must use a flute 8 with this type of rank... All too many Moller Salicionals on the organs I have played sound like this...   Salicionals can be voiced nicely, e. g. an Estey pipe organ made in about 1910 which I heard at New Providence Presb. Church, Raphine Va., and an Estey reed organ which I used to have at my home.... Violas can be voiced nice and silvery a la Hook and Hastings, e. g. the 3 rank artiste at St. Paul's Episc. Church, Bailey's Cross Roads, Falls Church, Va.     It just seems to me that in the past the ranks of some electronic organs have not been voiced/finished to suit the venue of the particular organ in question....   Best wishes,       Morton Belcher       > > > From: <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw> > > Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 10:49:03 +0800 (CST) > > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > > Subject: Subbing on a Rodgers ... > > > > > > > > > > Greetings to all! > > > > suitable... > > > > > > We all know about the pipe/electronic debate... but yet we all know = that > > houses of worship will continue to purchase electronics... > > > > At any rate, this organ proved to me that, with proper finishing and > > speaker placement, electronic organs can sound much better now than = they > > did many years ago... So if you are about to have an electronic = installed > > in your place of worship, do your best to ensure that each "rank" is > > "finished" properly and that the speakers are located at the best = location > > possible... The result will be an above average organ, from a tonal = point > > of view... > > > > (Disclaimer) Oh, and, um, yes, I have no connection with Rodgers = organs... > > > > > > Best wishes to all... > > > > > > > > Morton Belcher > >    
(back) Subject: Re: piston changing From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 16:04:22 +0800   Excuse my ignorance but are piston settings a secret device? Are they copyright? Have some organists made an amazing discovery which MUST be kept secret? I think this discussion is very petty. Why clear piston settings just to make a point? Bob E.   > When I play a concert, I set all my pistons back to nothing. I don't > want people copying my registrations. When I go to a church to > substitute, I erase my pistons, also. I feel that these are personal > things.