PipeChat Digest #2793 - Friday, April 5, 2002
 
Pipechat Compton and Wurlitzer
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com>
Fwd: [Theatreorgans-L] Off Topic - Johannus Organ for sale
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
St. Iggy's, NYC
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net>
Re: Pipechat Compton and Wurlitzer
  by "Bruce  Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>
Re: Organist pay
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Pipechat Compton and Wurlitzer From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 13:20:28 +0000     I tried logging on to pipenet chat last night from 10 - 11.30 Greek Time - =   GMT + 2 - apparently successfully - but either I was the only one in the"room" or there is a connection malfunction. Anyway, to cut a long = story short, I suggested the topic "Compton v Wurlitzer" for discussion. When I started the Compton Organ thread a couple of weeks ago I hadn't expected such fertile ground - it developed into an interesting discussion, particularly on the Polyphone. I came across a site which I did not know about - and other members might not know of either - http://lehuray2.csi.cam.ac.uk/npor.html - being the NPOR - a register of = all the organs in England. It is constantly being updated, and though I didn't =   find the original objects of my search - the organs in The Odeon, Swiss Cottage, London NW8 or the Gaumont, Parkway, Camden Town, London NW1, I found many other fascinating instruments. The register is very detailed, giving the history and specification of each organ listed, including many which are no longer in situ as well as those which have found new homes - for example the 3 manual Degens & Rippin in Maurice Forsyth Grant's house which is now in Aldenham School chapel - and has the Compton illuminated stop knobs. What I put forward as an opinion on the Compton - Wurlitzer theme was that Compton organs were typically British - well made - many of =   them are still around in working order - with good reeds and ingenious action. However the Wurlitzer is in a class apart. They used the best quality wood, their stop action is more precise - they have electro pneumatic motors for the tabs which are more positive than the Compton Electro Magnetic - the Tibia is a much creamier and richer sound - wooden pipes as opposed to metal, their orchestral trumpets and horns are brilliantly vivid and the strings have a fine cutting edge. Quite frankly, =   virtually all the Wurlitzer's I have played "played themselves" from the Trocadero Elephant and Castle, the Gaumont State Kilburn, the Gaumont = Dingle (Liverpool) and so on. The Compton was a workmanlike instrument, but not = in the same class. The instruments which sound well like Paddington, Downside =   and St Bride's owe a lot to the building, which is, after all, one of the most important stops on the organ. John Foss       _________________________________________________________________ Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Fwd: [Theatreorgans-L] Off Topic - Johannus Organ for sale From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 12:19:10 -0600   The following appeard on the Theatre Organs list this morning. If anyone is interested please contact the sender at the address below and NOT the list as he isn't a member.   David   >From: "Ken Fedorick" <kfedorick@zianet.com> >Subject: [Theatreorgans-L] Off Topic - Johannus Organ for sale >Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 11:01:12 -0700 > >My apologies to the list but I do not have another venue for putting the >word out. I have been asked to put the word out on a classical organ for >sale. It is a large custom Johannus Monarch, 4M. A new room was added = to >the residence and the person passed away 10 days before the installation = was >finished. The organ has only been played once for the memorial service. = If >anyone is a member of a classical list, please post this announcement. >Anyone interested can contact me and I will get them in touch with the >family. > >Kenneth W. Fedorick >Unpaid Volunteer Amateur Staff Organist >Fixer of whatever is broken >Plaza Theatre Wurlitzer >El Paso, Texas   -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: St. Iggy's, NYC From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 14:13:34 -0500   Today, I finally got to photograph St. Ignatius Loyola Church in New York City. Once the pictures are processed, I'll be setting them up at http://www.photo.net for everyone to enjoy. Additionally, while I busy taking pictures, I was treated to Joan Lippincott practicing on that wonderful Mander. Oh, to be in heaven!! :o)   -- ***************************************************** Healthcare references for everyone. "Recipient of the year 2000 Featured Site Award at healthAtoZ.com" http://home.earthlink.net/~marika57/m_erika.html   Internet Safety Lessons. Must reading for everyone. http://home.earthlink.net/~marika57/safetylessons.html *****************************************************      
(back) Subject: Re: Pipechat Compton and Wurlitzer From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 20:53:11 +0100   John et al,   >I came across a site which I did not know > about - and other members might not know of either - > http://lehuray2.csi.cam.ac.uk/npor.html - being the NPOR - a register of all > the organs in England. It is constantly being updated,   I mentioned the NPOR site on this list just three days ago and = particularly the extensive Compton content. Does nobody read my posts ? (don't answer that question !!).   It does not list *all* the organs in UK - I''m not sure it even lists the majority but it's still a very useful and interesting resource. It's particularly weak on theatre organs.   Yes, it is constantly being amended. I've just come a across a local = Postill (of York) organ which I played this morning for a funeral. 19 note pedal board F to B, one 61 note manual F to F, all unenclosed probably c 1850. Interesting and destined for the NPOR list.   Cheers   Bruce Miles.     mail to:- bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk website:- http://www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk   ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:20 PM Subject: Pipechat Compton and Wurlitzer        
(back) Subject: Re: Organist pay From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 17:20:43 EST     --part1_123.e886a24.29de2bbb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/3/2002 3:25:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, dhduncan@triton.net writes:     > My question is this: What is the expected pay per service played or per =   > year if it is a salary position? Is it "appropriate" to have a rate in > mind when searching for an opening or should one feel it is a volunteer > position? My previous position payed $25.00 per Sunday. I really > appreciate any input anyone has on this subject. Thanks! > > >   Teh best way to find out about the salaary range of organists in your area =   would be to find the closest chapter of the AGO (American Guild of Organists). Many local chapters formulate a chart showing the suggested = pay rates based on education and experience, the denomination being served (in =   general terms like Liturgicaal (Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Episcopal/Anglican), Evangelical (Southern Baptist, American Baptist, Independant) Protestant (Presbyterian or Methodist), Pentecostal, etc.).   At any rate, $25.00 per service would be considered by most on the lists = as being well below the average rate per service with the exception of those = who choose to donate their services.   You should think about what your time is worth to you...not only the time = you actually spend at the church for services and rehersals, but the time you spend each week practicing your prelude, postlude, hymns, any choir = anthems or other special music. this time adds up and is part of the time you are being compensated for by the church for which you work.     Rick in VA   --part1_123.e886a24.29de2bbb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/3/2002 3:25:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, dhduncan@triton.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">My question is = this: &nbsp;What is the expected pay per service played or per year if it = is a salary position? &nbsp;Is it "appropriate" to have a rate in mind = when searching for an opening or should one feel it is a volunteer = position? My previous position payed $25.00 per Sunday. &nbsp;I really = appreciate any input anyone has on this subject. &nbsp;Thanks!</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" = LANG=3D"0"> <BR></XMP></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0f0f0f" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Teh best way to find out about the salaary range of organists in your = area would be to find the closest chapter of the AGO (American Guild of = Organists). Many local chapters formulate a chart showing the suggested = pay rates based on education and experience, the denomination being served = (in general terms like Liturgicaal (Roman Catholic, Lutheran, = Episcopal/Anglican), Evangelical (Southern Baptist, American Baptist, = Independant) Protestant (Presbyterian or Methodist), Pentecostal, etc.). <BR> <BR>At any rate, $25.00 per service would be considered by most on the = lists as being well below the average rate per service with the exception = of those who choose to donate their services. <BR> <BR>You should think about what your time is worth to you...not only the = time you actually spend at the church for services and rehersals, but the = time you spend each week practicing your prelude, postlude, hymns, any = choir anthems or other special music. this time adds up and is part of the = time you are being compensated for by the church for which you work. <BR> <BR> <BR>Rick in VA</FONT></HTML>   --part1_123.e886a24.29de2bbb_boundary--