PipeChat Digest #2812 - Friday, April 19, 2002
 
RE: PRAYSE CHORUSES vs. HYMNS
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Re. Changing lanes.
  by "Alan Freed" <afreed3036@yahoo.com>
RE: PRAYSE CHORUSES vs. HYMNS
  by "Joshua Edwards" <fbcorganist@charter.net>
RE: small organs
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
Re: Re. Changing lanes.
  by "stan" <harfo32@hotmail.com>
Re: PRAYSE CHORUSES vs. HYMNS (humor, PLEASE DELETE if not interested)
  by "stan" <harfo32@hotmail.com>
Re: console
  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca>
console and space
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Want Building plans for Pedalboard!
  by "J.P. Henning" <jp_henning@freemail.absa.co.za>
Re: console and space(HEN PECKED)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Want Building plans for Pedalboard!
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
RE: Want Building plans for Pedalboard!
  by "J.P. Henning" <jp_henning@freemail.absa.co.za>
Re: Want Building plans for Pedalboard!
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Want Building plans for Pedalboard!
  by "Gary Blevins" <gsblvns@camalott.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: PRAYSE CHORUSES vs. HYMNS From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 06:41:51 -0500   I have heard this one before, with the only twist being that   Then, if I were to sing only verses one, three, and four, and if I were to do a key change on the last verse, that would be a LUTHERAN hymn.   Good morning to all my Lutheran friends.   Glenda Sutton          
(back) Subject: Re: Re. Changing lanes. From: "Alan Freed" <afreed3036@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 06:06:02 -0700 (PDT)   --- Nelson Denton <ndenton@cgocable.net> wrote: > It's a good picture, I saw it last weekend. There > is a slightly humourous > scene in which ( I don't know if they used your > church or not) Ben Afleck > does enter the church to seek guidance from above > and enters the > conffesionals. The Lenten stuff is shown to good > view :-)). > Nelson, I'd completely forgotten about that. Have only the vaguest recollection of it: As nearly as I can recall, I HEARD that there was a scene shot NOT at our church, but at Saint Mary the Virgin (very high Anglican) a block and a half east of us. It's a much larger church, and is well equipped with all the furnishings you'd want for such a shot.   Alan   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: RE: PRAYSE CHORUSES vs. HYMNS From: "Joshua Edwards" <fbcorganist@charter.net> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 09:38:12 -0400   I heard it was a BAPTIST hymn!   Josh (a proud Baptist in Tennessee)   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Glenda Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:42 AM To: 'PipeChat' Subject: RE: PRAYSE CHORUSES vs. HYMNS     I have heard this one before, with the only twist being that   Then, if I were to sing only verses one, three, and four, and if I were to do a key change on the last verse, that would be a LUTHERAN hymn.   Good morning to all my Lutheran friends.   Glenda Sutton           "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: RE: small organs From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:41:09 +0100     Hello ,   I am still chuckling at Ross's reply!   OF COURSE I know about Auckland.....just joking!   32ft String.......mmmm! Guildford Cathedral is the same, if I recall. = I think the Salicional is more in the manner of a quiet Violone = normally. In that case, read "non-existent" rather than "grumbling = away".   Absurd specifications? I shall have to think about that.   The only one I know is a 3-manual Conacher built on a semi-unit = principle. It doesn't make much of a noise until the Tubular Bells stop = is drawn!!!!!!!! It sounds like "Tin pan alley"   I think there was a vague Cinema connection from the past.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK    
(back) Subject: Re: Re. Changing lanes. From: "stan" <harfo32@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 18:34:55 +0300   Some years ago when I was to be found hanging around the Church of St Mary Magdalene, Paddington (London) much of the time, the church paid for the organ restoration, the cleaning of the magnificent Victorian Gothic = ceiling and installed central heating on the proceeds of its being used in the = film "Secret Ceremony", starring Elizabeth Taylor and Mia Farrow. The film company also donated the outsize Confessional used in the film. I tried to persuade them to book me as organist to provide pious background sounds - but to no avail. It was not a great box office success - I personally = found it a rather boring film - but it did some good. John Foss  
(back) Subject: Re: PRAYSE CHORUSES vs. HYMNS (humor, PLEASE DELETE if not interested) From: "stan" <harfo32@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 18:37:41 +0300   Thank you, contrareed, for your totally brilliant contribution. Thank God for humour! John ----- Original Message ----- From: <ContraReed@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:13 AM Subject: PRAYSE CHORUSES vs. HYMNS (humor, PLEASE DELETE if not = interested)     > (Since this topic has been broached several times on this list, I = thought the > following may be interesting to some of the subscribers. If I am = off-base in > posting this, please accept my apologies and let me know. Thanx. Richard) > > THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PRAYSE CHORUSES and HYMNS > > A man accustomed to a mainline church went to a seekers'service one Sunday. > He came home and his wife asked him how it was. > > "Well," he said, "it was interesting. They did something different. = They > sang praise choruses instead of hymns." > > "Praise choruses?" said his wife. "What are those?" > > "Oh, they're okay, I guess. They're sort of like hymns, only = different," > said the man. > > "What's the difference?" asked his wife. > > He replied, "Well, it's like this. If I were to say to you, 'Martha, = the > cows are in the corn,' that would be a hymn. Suppose, on the other hand, = I > were to say to you: > > 'Martha, Martha, Martha, Oh, Martha, MARTHA, MARTHA, > the cows, the big cows, the brown cows, the black cows, > the white cows, the black and white cows, > the COWS, COWS, COWS are in the corn, are in the corn, are > in the corn, are in the corn, the CORN, CORN, CORN.' > > Then if I were to repeat the whole thing five or six times, that would = be a > praise chorus." > > As luck would have it, the same Sunday a young woman accustomed to seekers' > services attended a mainline service. She came home and her husband = asked > her how it was. "Well," she said, "it was interesting. They did = something > different, however. They sang hymns instead of praise choruses." > > "Hymns?" said her husband. "What are those?" > > "Oh, they're okay, I guess. They're sort of like regular songs, only > different." said the woman. > > "What's the difference?" asked her husband. > > She replied, "Well, it's like this. If I were to say to you, 'Ernest, = the > cows are in the corn,' that would be a regular song. Suppose, on the other > hand, I were to say to you: > > "Oh Ernest, dear Ernest, now hear thou my cry; > Incline thine ear to the words of my mouth. > Turn thou thy whole wondrous ear by and by > To the righteous, inimitable, glorious truth. > > For the way of the animals who can explain? > There is in their heads no shadow of sense! > Hearken they not in God's sun or his rain. > Unless from the mild, tempting corn they are fenced. > > Yea, those COWS in glad bovine, rebellious delight > Broke free from their shackles, their warm pens > eschewed. > Then goaded by minions of darkness and night. > They all my mild Chilliwack sweet corn have chewed. > > So look to that bright shining day by and by, > Where all the corruptions of earth are reborn, > Where no vicious animal makes my soul cry, > And I no longer see those foul cows in the corn." > > Then, if I were to sing only verses one, three, and four, and if I were = to do > a key change on the last verse, that would be a hymn. " > > --Author Unknown (perhaps with reason) > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Re: console From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 12:43:50 -0500   On 4/17/02 7:06 PM, Ross & Lynda Wards wrote:   > Anyway, just had to share the wild excitement about the console being > finally completed. I think I've mentioned this achingly-long project = before, > but music is in sight (earshot?) at last.   Ross,   What a wonderful project to fill your retirement! I'm envious beyond = belief. Where are you going to erect this monster? Space alone would be a terrific problem for me with any size pipe organ, let alone one this ambitious.   Please keep us posted as you progress.   TTFA, Russ Greene    
(back) Subject: console and space From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 07:55:58 +1200   Thanks, various folk, who have shared my excitedness over the console = being now finished, both to those who replied on-List and those who sent private emails.   Russ, Where to put it? Well, one of the reasons (though I deny this = half-heartedly to my wife) we bought this house was that it has a 4-car garage attached = to the back of the house in which the previous owner (who was only 5'2" in height) had 4 Chevs from the early 1960s. I've chucked the roller doors = and put in ranchsliders and windows (2nd-hand, aluminium frames). I've lined = the walls and am now lining the ceiling as well. The Barn, as it's now known = at home here, is 1200 sq.ft, so..... My wife says lovingly (yes, it is with love but a slight sneer all the = same) to friends, "Ross can do what he likes out there. All the stuff I don't = want in the house goes out there - the records, the CDs, the tapes, the books, the music, the huge hi-fi [17 speakers], the photo enlarger, the computer, the piano, the bagpipes, the organ, the husband........." In NZ here, someone recently published a book called "Blokes & Sheds", = being a description with photos of about 100 men round NZ who have big sheds = full of their hobbies. The book has been a very great seller indeed: some have aircraft, some have cars, others have old farm equipment, their own = brewery, you name it. Fun, and disgustingly accurate :-) Ross      
(back) Subject: Want Building plans for Pedalboard! From: "J.P. Henning" <jp_henning@freemail.absa.co.za> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:23:17 +0200   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0006_01C1E727.A94644E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I am in desperate need of the building plans of a 32-note pedalboard, radiant and concave. The ONLY one I could find was on the American Guild of Organists Site, but this has too little detail to build the pedalboard. Regards, Jean   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0006_01C1E727.A94644E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE>   <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.3103.1000" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN class=3D3D072593920-16042002>I = am =3D in desperate=3D20 need of the building plans of a 32-note pedalboard, radiant and =3D concave.&nbsp;=3D20 The ONLY one I could find was on the American Guild of Organists Site, =3D but this=3D20 has too little detail to build the pedalboard.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D072593920-16042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D072593920-16042002>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D072593920-16042002>Jean</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0006_01C1E727.A94644E0--    
(back) Subject: Re: console and space(HEN PECKED) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 16:44:32 EDT   Dear Ross:   You didn't mention a bathroom in the barn, and a place to sleep. That's probably next. women are like that, give'em an inch and they take the whole arm. Oops, I'd better start practicing before the MRS. gets home. :) She only tolerates organ music. It can be tough being an organist. I'm glad I didn't marry another organist, as she either would be competing with me for time on the organ, or she would be calling out my mistakes from the kitchen while washing dishes. :) You may want to instal environment controls for heating and cooling as you may be out there a very long time. :) In the barn that is. When first married, when she called my name it was loving and endearment, now when she calls me, I start going through a litany of what I did wrong. hoping it isn't going to be too bad *this* time.   Hen Pecked Husband  
(back) Subject: Re: Want Building plans for Pedalboard! From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 16:07:25 -0500   Warning, building a concave and radiating pedalboard is one of the more difficult woodworking jobs in the shop. We have made many in our shop, and I know the problems well. You can get a head start, however, if you buy the laminated and curved materials, so at least you do not need to do those. There is a company called Ply Curves which does it for a lot of builders. They will not sell you just one, but you could probably get the pieces from Organ Supply Industries. Roy Redman   "J.P. Henning" wrote:   > I am in desperate need of the building plans of a 32-note pedalboard, > radiant and concave. The ONLY one I could find was on the American > Guild of Organists Site, but this has too little detail to build the > pedalboard.Regards,Jean    
(back) Subject: RE: Want Building plans for Pedalboard! From: "J.P. Henning" <jp_henning@freemail.absa.co.za> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 23:20:43 +0200   I'm up to the challenge, but where do I get the technical specs for the board?   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Roy Redman Sent: 18 April 2002 23:07 To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Want Building plans for Pedalboard!     Warning, building a concave and radiating pedalboard is one of the more difficult woodworking jobs in the shop. We have made many in our shop, and I know the problems well. You can get a head start, however, if you buy the laminated and curved materials, so at least you do not need to do those. There is a company called Ply Curves which does it for a lot of builders. They will not sell you just one, but you could probably get the pieces from Organ Supply Industries. Roy Redman   "J.P. Henning" wrote:   > I am in desperate need of the building plans of a 32-note pedalboard,   > radiant and concave. The ONLY one I could find was on the American > Guild of Organists Site, but this has too little detail to build the > pedalboard.Regards,Jean     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Want Building plans for Pedalboard! From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:16:56 +1200   Pedalboards are indeed, so I'm told, very difficult to make, so IMHO you'd be better to advertise for one 2nd-hand and do it up - or ring round organbuilders as they'd likely have an old one spare. If all else fails, = you can sometimes destroy an electronic thingie to get the pedalboard or the manuals, and that means you do two good things. Ross -----Original Message----- From: J.P. Henning <jp_henning@freemail.absa.co.za> To: 'PipeChat' <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:23 AM Subject: RE: Want Building plans for Pedalboard!     >I'm up to the challenge, but where do I get the technical specs for the >board? > >-----Original Message----- >From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of >Roy Redman >Sent: 18 April 2002 23:07 >To: PipeChat >Subject: Re: Want Building plans for Pedalboard! > > >Warning, building a concave and radiating pedalboard is one of the more >difficult woodworking jobs in the shop. We have made many in our shop, >and I know the problems well. You can get a head start, however, if you >buy the laminated and curved materials, so at least you do not need to >do those. There is a company called Ply Curves which does it for a lot >of builders. They will not sell you just one, but you could probably >get the pieces from Organ Supply Industries. Roy Redman > >"J.P. Henning" wrote: > >> I am in desperate need of the building plans of a 32-note pedalboard, > >> radiant and concave. The ONLY one I could find was on the American >> Guild of Organists Site, but this has too little detail to build the >> pedalboard.Regards,Jean > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Want Building plans for Pedalboard! From: "Gary Blevins" <gsblvns@camalott.com> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 23:24:56 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_006C_01C1E730.4075E840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   MessageHi Jean, By chance, if you're interested in acquiring a pedalboard instead of =3D building one, I have two different pedalboards available free for the =3D taking.=3D20 Gary=3D20 ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: J.P. Henning=3D20 To: PipeChat (Messages=3D20 Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:23 PM Subject: Want Building plans for Pedalboard!     I am in desperate need of the building plans of a 32-note pedalboard, = =3D radiant and concave. The ONLY one I could find was on the American =3D Guild of Organists Site, but this has too little detail to build the =3D pedalboard.   Regards, Jean   ------=3D_NextPart_000_006C_01C1E730.4075E840 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1801" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV>Hi Jean,</DIV> <DIV>By chance, if you're interested in acquiring a &nbsp;pedalboard =3D instead of=3D20 building one, I have two different pedalboards available free&nbsp;for =3D the=3D20 taking.&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Gary&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3Djp_henning@freemail.absa.co.za=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:jp_henning@freemail.absa.co.za">J.P. Henning</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">PipeChat (Messages</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 18, 2002 = =3D 3:23=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Want Building plans = =3D for=3D20 Pedalboard!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN = class=3D3D072593920-16042002>I am =3D in desperate=3D20 need of the building plans of a 32-note pedalboard, radiant and =3D concave.&nbsp;=3D20 The ONLY one I could find was on the American Guild of Organists Site, = =3D but=3D20 this has too little detail to build the =3D pedalboard.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D072593920-16042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D072593920-16042002>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 =3D class=3D3D072593920-16042002>Jean</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></= =3D HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_006C_01C1E730.4075E840--