PipeChat Digest #2818 - Tuesday, April 23, 2002
 
Studies - Alkan
  by "Domitila Ballesteros" <dballesteros@uol.com.br>
Re: Music writing software
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #2817 - 04/22/02
  by "Ken_Earl01" <ken_earl01@hotmail.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #2817 - 04/22/02
  by "Ken_Earl01" <ken_earl01@hotmail.com>
Re: Update and New Venture with Bass
  by "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net>
Re: Studies - Alkan
  by "Arno Schuh" <arno.schuh@in-trier.de>
Re: Studies - Alkan
  by "Domitila Ballesteros" <dballesteros@uol.com.br>
Turkey of an Organ on Ebay...
  by "Bob Richardson" <bob@peak.org>
my mistakes
  by "Domitila Ballesteros" <dballesteros@uol.com.br>
Re: my mistakes
  by "Sand Lawn" <sandlawn@bayou.com>
Re: New York
  by "V. David Barton" <vdbarton@erols.com>
Re: my mistakes
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: my mistakes
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Music writing software
  by "Joe Karashani" <jtkarash@coppernet.zm>
Re: Music writing software
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
RE: PipeChat Digest #2817 - 04/22/02
  by "Paul Isom" <paul.isom@which.net>
Senior Recital in Macon, Georgia USA (X-post)
  by "Stephen F. P. Karr" <karr_sf@ACADMN.MERCER.EDU>
 

(back) Subject: Studies - Alkan From: "Domitila Ballesteros" <dballesteros@uol.com.br> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 07:59:07 -0300   Hi,   I'm just writing my mastering dissertation about "The Consequences of the "Pianism" in the Six Studies Op. 5 of Jeanne Demessieux". Her Teacher, Marcel Dupr=E9, noticed the great organist should play the "Pedal Studies" of Charles Valentin Alkan. I know Mr. Kevin Bowyer has recorder the 12 =E9tudes d'Orgue ou de Piano = =E0 P=E9dales pour les Pieds seulement (Pedal Studies) for the BBC on the organ of St. Mary Redcliffe, Bristol (february 1989). I need to find where can I buy this CD. Someone know where can I find it?   Domitila Ballesteros Rio de Janeiro- Brazil      
(back) Subject: Re: Music writing software From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 07:39:58 -0500     --------------90B192B83EF5DB74462CFA76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       JKVDP@aol.com wrote:   > In a message dated 04/21/2002 1:40:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > mjolnir@ticnet.com writes: > > > > >> . Hal Leonard, in the US, has adopted Sibelius; on >> the other Hand, Schott, Durand, Henle, and Universal Edition >> (Vienna) have >> adopted Finale. > > > > > > Does this mean that Leonard will accept music only on Sibelius and the > others only on Finale?   I doubt it; while I have not confirmed this, I suspect that the "adoptions" I mentioned related to their own use, in house....   ns   --------------90B192B83EF5DB74462CFA76 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> &nbsp; <p>JKVDP@aol.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>In = a message dated 04/21/2002 1:40:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mjolnir@ticnet.com = writes:</font></font> <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font = face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>.&nbsp; Hal Leonard, in the US, has adopted Sibelius; on</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>the other Hand, Schott, Durand, Henle, and Universal Edition (Vienna) have</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>adopted = Finale.</font></font></blockquote>   <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Does this mean that = Leonard will accept music only on Sibelius and the others only on = Finale?</font></font></blockquote> I doubt it; while I have not confirmed this, I suspect that the = "adoptions" I mentioned related to their own use, in house.... <p>ns</html>   --------------90B192B83EF5DB74462CFA76--    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #2817 - 04/22/02 From: "Ken_Earl01" <ken_earl01@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:01:53 +0100   >>For my summer project, I am considering some different things to do. I don't really want to work my convenience store job again, so I'm looking for something organ-related that I could possibly learn. Does anyone have any ideas?<<   Your idea of swtiching the 8' flute to 16' flute is possible.   add a diode in series (IN4002 or similar) with each (all) pipe magnets on the positive rail side.   Put a switch into the positive rail before the diodes. This will switch = the 8' flute series on and off.   Add a second set of diodes in series with the 16' magnets (which will overlap onto the first set, so 49 magnets will have 2 diodes each).   Put a switch onto the positive common feeding these diodes.   Viola, 8' or/and 16' flute from 73 notes.   BUT - this would be a 'master' set of switches. To enable the 4' and 2' stops to be unaffected by the 16/8 changeover, all the remaining magnets would require to have diodes added (one per note per stop) regardless of what else is happening to the magnets. Having the diodes in series with = the positive bus and not switch provided note isolation between the pitches.   Ken      
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #2817 - 04/22/02 From: "Ken_Earl01" <ken_earl01@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:04:57 +0100   Pedal board construction.   The pedal keys are made of a suitable straight grained hardwood, such as obeche.   The pedal board frame, whether oak, mahogany, or other, is made of = laminated plates of hardwoord, soaked, glued, and bent in a former frame, then = clamped together untill the glue is completely dry. The former is usually = slightly more tightly curved than the actual degree of curvature required, to allow the wood to 'spring' slightly when it is unclamped.   The base of the pedalboard is often straight grained yellow pine or = similar, and made as standard, with hardwood dowel prividing note separateion and pedal guides, up to the curved toe and heel rails.   Your best bet, is to have a good look at a good pedalboard on a pipe organ in a church.   Ken  
(back) Subject: Re: Update and New Venture with Bass From: "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:21:05 -0500   Well I thought about this long and hard today---and eventually took the problem to my math teacher, who is the retired head of the hydraulics division at Eaton Corp. So he knows quite a bit about this stuff. Anyhow I brought to him my new idea: have multiple magnets that feed the pipes. The magnets would be connected to the "note on/off" messages (which are negative) all the time. The common (which is positive) would be regulated so that the pipes could either play at 8', 16', or 32' (resultant). This would require a little more work with the holes and things, which I will outline. I think it should work though. Below is a copy of my previous post for those of you who want to be confused.   Thanks! Paul       Paul Soulek wrote: > > For my summer project, I am considering some different things to do. I > don't really want to work my convenience store job again, so I'm looking > for something organ-related that I could possibly learn. Does anyone > have any ideas? > > Another update on the organ at church: today I added one more regular > brick to the reservoir, weighing a few pounds. Now there is just enough > weight on the reservoir so that the pressure measured in the chest stays > constant, even while playing large chords. The notes that would kind of > whistle all the time have stopped whistling, probably due to an > increased pressure pushing the magnets tighter against the toe holes. > There is NO noticable wind sag at all. The tuning can finally be right > on! I did this after church today; too bad I wouldn't have thought of > this last week. Anyway, it works great now. > > Now that the principal is in and working good, I was thinking about > adding a wooden flute rank. Wooden flutes have always had a special > place in my heart. The thing is, the Rodgers can only accept an 8' rank > of 85 notes---but I kind of wanted to add a 16' Bourdon, and have 97 > notes on a unit flute rank. I have been thinking about some kind of > switching system that would interrupt the signals that are coming off > the driver board----both the positive common signal and the negative > pipe on/off power signals---so that I can have a 16' flute stop---but I > haven't perfected the system yet. This would have to be a switch that is > separate from the stops on the organ---a toggle switch or something that > would switch the 8' to 16'. I thought about using the rank for a 32' > resultant as well, but right now just switching it to 16' sounds like a > headache enough. The 8' flute would have to be the "gateway" to the 16' > stop; because for the switch to do any good, the key signals must be > coming into the pipes through the 8' flute pipe driver board. The 8' > flute is playable on the pedal, great, and swell. Does anyone have any > good ideas on this one? I've been thinking about this for a few hours, > and it's got me stumped, as I'm sure I have you right now. I usually > have quite the way with words, e-mail does something strange to me. What > can I say. > > Of course, the easy option would be to just hook up a 85 note 16' flute, > and just change all the 8' flute tabs to 16' and the 4's to 8's > etc...but then the stoprail would look like this (on the great) > 8 Principal > 16 Bourdon > 8 Gemshorn > 4 Octave > 8 Flute > 2 Super Octave > 4 Wald Flote > > ......which is not really desirable LOL. Oh, and the stoptabs cannot be > moved around on the console. They're part of a circuit board. But if the > only option would be to double the pitch lengths that are visible on the > tabs.......... > > I hope you can make *some* sense out of the above. If not, let me know; > I'll try to re-explain it. > > Thank you! > Paul  
(back) Subject: Re: Studies - Alkan From: "Arno Schuh" <arno.schuh@in-trier.de> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:52:48 +0200   Hi Domitila, at last you should ask Henry Carl Baker of The Organ Literature Foundation, iIrc. organlitfnd@juno.com for this CD. The OLF still has a lot of recordings in stock that you no longer will find elsewhere.   Greetings   Arno    
(back) Subject: Re: Studies - Alkan From: "Domitila Ballesteros" <dballesteros@uol.com.br> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 20:27:06 -0300   Hi, Arno.   OK. I'm sending now the message. Thank you.   Domitila      
(back) Subject: Turkey of an Organ on Ebay... From: "Bob Richardson" <bob@peak.org> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:56:06 -0700 (PDT)   Found on ebay - for your amusement or sorrow... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1724762764            
(back) Subject: my mistakes From: "Domitila Ballesteros" <dballesteros@uol.com.br> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:14:40 -0300   Hi, I'm Domitila and I'm Brazilian. Sorry, but I don't write english very well. Then I ask you have a little (or very much) patience with me. I'd like to know, where can I to view in the Web the complete list of the members of Pipechat.org? It is possible? Well, I'll enjoy to know my mistakes... Bye, Domitila      
(back) Subject: Re: my mistakes From: "Sand Lawn" <sandlawn@bayou.com> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 20:06:42 -0500   Domitila,   Your English is much better than my Portuguese. It is nice the read that PipeChat is going around the world. I enjoyed the one visit I had in your country. Would you please tell us somthing about the organs in your area = of Brazil?   Thank you,   Sand Lawn   Domitila Ballesteros wrote:   > Hi, > I'm Domitila and I'm Brazilian. > Sorry, but I don't write english very well. Then I ask you have a little > (or very much) patience with me.    
(back) Subject: Re: New York From: "V. David Barton" <vdbarton@erols.com> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:51:52 -0400   Dear Alan,   Thank you ever so much for your informative reply. I will, indeed, take = you up on your offer to call and chat. In fact, if it meets with your = approval, I shall call you on Thursday morning, April 25, at about 10:00 a.m., EDT. If that's not convenient for some reason, please reply suggesting an alternate time.   I would very much enjoy visiting St. Luke's and making the acquaintence of your organ (which I've seen, with much appreciation, on your website). I would also be immensely pleased to visit the 1958 M=F6ller in St. George's Episcopal Church, the one recorded right after its inauguation by E. Power Biggs, if it is ever open to visitors. It would be nice to visit St. John the Unfinished, but I am well aware that the organ is currently = inoperative following the disastrous fire of last fall, so that won't be possible, of course.   I am much in your debt for the recommendation of Patelson's. Though I = live in Baltimore and am just a stone's throw from Washington, between the two cities, there isn't really a music store worthy of the name. It's quite amazing, when you consider that between them, the two cities have over a dozen colleges and universities offering the organ major, including one world-class conservatory (The Peabody Institute). I grew up in Chicago, = and was quite accustomed to being able to find anything I wanted at Lyon and Healy. I guess it's just a sign of the changing times.   As for restaurants, I love German food (sadly, I'm a couple of decades -- = at least -- late for L=FCchow's). I also like French a lot, but not the = price tags which that usually entails. I'm extremely fond of Northern Italian, less so of Southern Italian. And I think Indian food is the cat's meow. = I also don't turn my nose up at good Jewish cooking, either.   In any case, I look forward to chatting with you Thursday morning (or whenever else suits your convenience).   Until then,   Dave       ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Freed" <afreed3036@yahoo.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 9:43 PM Subject: Re: New York     > Well,"wrong" on "not of general interst," so replying > publicly. Call me at Saint Luke's Church 212 246 > 3540, for both (reasonable) restairamts and > (ridiculous) church recommenations. > > Tell me you taste in orans, etc. The more I know > about your tastes, the better I can steer you. Your > preferences about northern or southern Italitan? > French? Asian? They are all on West 46th Street, > between 8th and 9th--as is Saint Luke's Church. And > quite reasonable indeed. > > For orgam music, go to Patelson's on 56th St., behind > Carnegie Hall. See also bookshop at Juilliard School > of Music. Ask also of Jonahan Hall of this list, more > knowledgeable than my humble self. > > I will steer you to organs as well; let me know what > are your tastes. > > Alan > > > > --- "V. David Barton" <vdbarton@erols.com> wrote: > > To all fellow Pipe Chatters in the metropolitan New > > York area: > > > > My wife and I will be visiting New York from May 4 > > through May 10. We will > > be staying in Greenwich Village, but of course, > > public transit is so great > > in New York that I don't expect we'll have any > > problem getting anywhere in Manhattan that we decide > to go. > > > > My query of you old-time New Yorkers: please send > > me any recommendations > > for small, independent, one-off restaurants you've > > enjoyed, ones that won't > > necessarily break the bank. Recommendations for > > good places to shop for > > books and recordings (NOT the large chain stores, > > please) would also be > > appreciated. And, recommendations for organs that > > might be interesting to > > visit would also not be amiss. > > > > Since responses to my queries are not likely to be > > of general interest, > > please reply privately. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: my mistakes From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 20:59:46 -0500   At 9:14 PM -0300 04/22/2002, Domitila Ballesteros wrote: >I'd like to know, where can I to view in the Web the complete list of >the members of Pipechat.org? It is possible?   Domitila   There is no public list of the members of PipeChat. The server is set-up so that only the Administrators can access the names and addresses of the members of the list as a precaution against someone getting the subscriber addresses and spamming everyone.   WELCOME and i will second Sand's question about your telling us a bit about the organs in your country.   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: my mistakes From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:42:12 EDT   Dear Domitila:   So glad to make your acquaintance and that you've joined the list. What you are looking for is the HOMEPAGE: http://www.pipechat.org It and all other things about pipechat are listed there at the bottom of each E-mail from the group. People are not automatically listed, you have to go there and make yourself known by writting a short biography, list your web page etc.   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: Music writing software From: "Joe Karashani" <jtkarash@coppernet.zm> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:37:31 +0200   No mention has been made so far of Music Publisher (formerly NoteWorthy) from Braeburn Software, which seems to be quite adequate for ordinary use = at a modest price, and has recently introduced a playback facility (I have = not upgraded yet). Has any list member experience with this program and = could comment on its suitability? Thank you.   Joe Karashani Lusaka, Zambia   > but previously I didn't have enough money to purchase a high quality = music writing program. Now I have saved up a little and am wondering what you = all suggest - Finale, Sibeluis, etc. What software is more user-friendly, = etc. >        
(back) Subject: Re: Music writing software From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 19:19:54 +1200   Yes, I have been using this programme (from Bernard Long, a retired mathematician living in Scotland, if I remember his name rightly) since = its first incarnation some years ago, but have not bought the latest upgrade yet. I find it exceptionally easy to use, with a very attractive page to look = at. And it's dirt cheap compared with other programmes, but don't let that put you off. I would heartily recommend this to people who want a good job easily done. Ross (in Middle Earth NZ) -----Original Message----- From: Joe Karashani <jtkarash@coppernet.zm> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:42 PM Subject: Re: Music writing software     >No mention has been made so far of Music Publisher (formerly NoteWorthy) >from Braeburn Software, which seems to be quite adequate for ordinary use at >a modest price, and has recently introduced a playback facility (I have = not >upgraded yet). Has any list member experience with this program and = could >comment on its suitability? >Thank you. > >Joe Karashani >Lusaka, Zambia > >> but previously I didn't have enough money to purchase a high quality music >writing program. Now I have saved up a little and am wondering what you all >suggest - Finale, Sibeluis, etc. What software is more user-friendly, = etc. >> > > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: RE: PipeChat Digest #2817 - 04/22/02 From: "Paul Isom" <paul.isom@which.net> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 09:52:36 +0100   I'm currently doing some in-depth research into modern house organs. If = any of you have instruments of your own and can send me specifications and photos, this would be most helpful and gratefully received.   Paul Isom    
(back) Subject: Senior Recital in Macon, Georgia USA (X-post) From: "Stephen F. P. Karr" <karr_sf@ACADMN.MERCER.EDU> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 05:03:52 -0400   Dear lists,   I am writing to inform you of and invite you to my senior recital this Saturday evening, 27 April 2002 at 8:00 P. M. It will be played on the (semi-) new Fisk organ at Christ Episcopal Church in Macon, Georgia. The program is as follows:   Ives: Variations on America   Clerambault: Trio & Basse et Dessus de Trompette (from Suite du Premier = Ton)   Bach: Allein Gott in der Hoeh sei Ehr, S. 664   Bach: Prelude & Fugue in E minor, the "Wedge" (forgive me, I've forgotten = the catalogue number on this one)   Durufle: Suite, opus 5   If you're planning to be in the area, please do come. The instrument = plays this literature very well.   -Stephen Karr