PipeChat Digest #3032 - Sunday, August 11, 2002
 
Re: New Topics
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com>
Re.: what maybe we SHOULD be talking about
  by "Douglas Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com>
Separate levels for Generals and Divisionals
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re.: what maybe we SHOULD be tal;king about
  by "Douglas Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com>
RE: quirky stoplists...was Re fascination with low note rumble.et	c.
  by "David Smit" <DavidS@astrolabegroup.com>
RE: New Topics
  by "Charles E. Brown" <chabrown@bellatlantic.net>
Re: Johannus Organs
  by "Antoni Scott" <ascott@ptd.net>
Re: Trinity, Lansdale
  by <Steskinner@aol.com>
Re: Separate levels for Generals and Divisionals
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Trinity, Lansdale
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Johannus Organs
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: New Topics
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Johannus Organs
  by "Jim Hailey" <jhaileya10@charter.net>
methods and music
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Oops
  by "Jim Hailey" <jhaileya10@charter.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: New Topics From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 05:16:57 -0400       Chris Tackett wrote:   > (One advantage to electronics is that all of these sounds can be had at = your > fingertips without huge pipe chambers and hundreds of ranks of pipes.) > > Oh, well. Any ideas? >   My Mother-in-Law's Lowrey was fun to mess around and albeit did not any pipe chambers.   ...You want a boring thread, [he says just before being spat upon.. by the Entire List]   ....How long should a Pianist be educated before even considering playing the Pipe Organ?     Stan :)    
(back) Subject: Re.: what maybe we SHOULD be talking about From: "Douglas Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 03:30:34 -0700 (PDT)   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   <major snippage re: electronics>   > But quite aside from THAT, knowledge of organ-building is REQUIRED in > order to DESIGN an organ. ANYBODY can draw a stop-list. That is NOT > "designing an organ." > How many know (or care) about: > pipe scales > composition of mixtures > wind pressure > windchest design > key action design > stop action design > Etc., etc., etc. > But I'll shut up about THAT, if others will ASK QUESTIONS and take up > some of THESE areas that we ALL need to know more about. There ARE > knowledgeable organ-builders on here, and these AREN'T trade secrets.   There is a very interesting letter on page 261 in Charles Callahan's book =C6OLIAN-SKINNER REMEMBERED about just that.   I have been involved with many installations when, at the dedicatory recital, the program would proudly proclaim that "The organ was DESIGNED by Mr. _____", when in fact Mr. _____ simply drew up a stoplist and didn't have the foggiest clue as to how to lay out an organ. Also, he didn't know anything at all about the things listed above.   D. Keith Morgan   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com  
(back) Subject: Separate levels for Generals and Divisionals From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 06:51:51 EDT   Subject: RE: Setting Divisional pistons, etc. From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:17:18 -0400   >>What do you mean by "separately selectable?" Do you mean in terms of >>memory level? Please explain.   >I'd envision, ideally, a series of memory levels for the generals, and a >completely separate series of memory levels for >the divisionals; one could change the generals from level 1 to level 2 = but >keep the divisionals on level 1. I *think* I saw >something like this on the console of an English cathedral a few years = ago, >but have not encountered it in the US   Harrison and Harrison has an SSL system like this on the organ in Hendersonville, NC. One of my friends played it and said that it was good =   because you can keep all your divisional pistons set up and only change = the Generals, or Vice Versa. There are two selectors on the memory = panel.....one for Generals and one for Divisionals.   I don't know that I would necessarily like that set-up, only being used to =   the "American" way of multiple memories, only because I'd have to get accustomed to that system.   Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: Re.: what maybe we SHOULD be tal;king about From: "Douglas Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 04:01:41 -0700 (PDT)   In his post, Richard Schneider wrote:   Someplace in the middle of last weeks "discussions" I asked the list for their input about their thoughts on drawknob layout on TERRACED Consoles.   Know how many responses I got?   Two.   And one of those from a builder-friend who I also wrote DIRECTLY with the question. Good dialogue too.   The other was from a person who said (in so many words): "I don't frankly give a damn. So long as the organ has combination pistons, it really doesn't matter!"   Well, quite frankly: I DO give a damn, and I'd think the rest of you jokers would also.   How about it? Shall we try again??   How very interesting that Mr. Schneider got only two responses to his question about stop layout.   One thing we can all rely on from the "experts" when they are pinned down for technical explanations is a loud, resounding silence.   Since there are no strict guidelines regarding the drawknob layout on teraced consoles, my own idea is that the lower level of stops placed just BELOW the level of the bottom manual should be for the pedal. The SECOND row LEVEL with the bottom manual should be for the bottom manual; the THIRD row LEVEL with the second manual should be for the second manual; the FOURTH row LEVEL with the third manual should for that manual, etc., and the couplers should be on the TOP row ABOVE the level of the top manual. These rows should be BOTH SIDES of the manuals equally spaced with the flue stops on the left, and the reed stops on the right.   Now that we are seeing more and more of these consoles, it would be helpful if a number of KNOWLEDGABLE people could get together and adopt some definite standards as to how these layouts should be, and builders should stick to them, regardless of what the "experts" demand.   D. Keith Morgan   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com  
(back) Subject: RE: quirky stoplists...was Re fascination with low note rumble.et c. From: "David Smit" <DavidS@astrolabegroup.com> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 12:55:07 +0200   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C24125.8E14D300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   Hi, I played on one this morning! It was exactly as below, except that the Positive has a Cromorne and a FUll Pedal Chorus (16-8-4). The horizontal = is rather bright, but not too loud. The only problem is that the Pedals have = no manual reeds to cover them properly. Dave S   -----Original Message----- From: Cremona502@cs.com [mailto:Cremona502@cs.com] Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 10:03 AM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: quirky stoplists...was Re fascination with low note = rumble.etc.     In a message dated 8/8/02 5:54:23 PM !!!First Boot!!!, jonberts@magiccablepc.com writes:         Hey gang...as long as we're discussing stoplists etc. I know of a terrible installation done, where the 8' Trompete is horizontal. Only other reed is an 8' oboe.       The recent penchant for LOUD has given horizontal reeds a bad rap! I = have heard a goodly number of horizontal reeds of various tonalities from = Trompet to Dulzian and Regals (Trompetregals are wunnerful!) that are very = exciting, but do not obliterate. Having the pipe horizontally placed gives the = sound an extra bite. The stop does not have to be loud. The effect of a mile horizontal reed is a wonderful addition to the ensemble.   Bruce in the Muttestery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502   ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053     ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C24125.8E14D300 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1">     <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D200170111-11082002>Hi,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D200170111-11082002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D200170111-11082002>I played on one this morning! It was exactly as below, except that the = Positive has a Cromorne and a FUll Pedal Chorus (16-8-4). The horizontal is rather bright, but not too loud. The only problem is that the Pedals have no = manual reeds to cover them properly.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D200170111-11082002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D200170111-11082002>Dave S</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT = face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Cremona502@cs.com [mailto:Cremona502@cs.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 09, 2002 10:03 =   AM<BR><B>To:</B> pipechat@pipechat.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: quirky stoplists...was Re fascination with low note rumble.etc.<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT = size=3D2>In a message dated 8/8/02 5:54:23 PM !!!First Boot!!!, = jonberts@magiccablepc.com writes: <BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE=3D"CITE">Hey gang...as long as we're discussing stoplists etc. = &nbsp;I know of <BR>a terrible installation done, where the 8' Trompete is <BR>horizontal. Only other reed is an 8' oboe.</FONT><FONT = color=3D#000000 face=3DArial lang=3D0 size=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial lang=3D0 size=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>The recent penchant for LOUD has given horizontal reeds a bad rap! &nbsp;&nbsp;I = have heard a goodly number of horizontal reeds of various tonalities from = Trompet to Dulzian and Regals (Trompetregals are wunnerful!) that are very = exciting, but do not obliterate. &nbsp;&nbsp;Having the pipe horizontally placed = gives the sound an extra bite. &nbsp;The stop does not have to be loud. &nbsp;The effect of a mile horizontal reed is a wonderful addition to the = ensemble. <BR><BR>Bruce in the Muttestery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health = &amp; wealth &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C24125.8E14D300--  
(back) Subject: RE: New Topics From: "Charles E. Brown" <chabrown@bellatlantic.net> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 07:25:08 -0400   Chris:   Welcome to the list.   You may want to start with the publications of the Organ Historical Society. They can be found at:   http://www.ohscatalog.org   As for technique, especially pedal, look for a book by Clarence Dickenson called The Technique and Art of Organ Playing. Also, Joyce Jones has a book out on technical mastery.   As for literature, peruse the OHS site. You will see a lot to choose from. As I frequently tell my students, just get music and start to learn it. Everything else will fall into place. Peruse programs for other churches to get ideas.   As for people altering an instrument to be "baroque" (or at least what they call baroque, that is positively ridiculous. The purpose of the instrument is to provide resources for a broad range of situations. If these people do not want to use the celestes, simply do not use them. But to cripple the instrument for other literature is, at best, short sighted.     Hope this helps. Don't hesitate to email me privately. Charles      
(back) Subject: Re: Johannus Organs From: "Antoni Scott" <ascott@ptd.net> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 07:49:10 -0400   Which is better, the latest Allen or the latest Johannus ?   Antoni Scott  
(back) Subject: Re: Trinity, Lansdale From: <Steskinner@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 07:45:59 EDT     --part1_1a9.6937e37.2a87a877_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/11/2002 1:29:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pnst.shirley@verizon.net writes:     > For those who were at the Philly AGO convention and went to hear Cherry > Rhodes at Trinity Lutheran in Lansdale, I'd be interested in hearing = your > opinions of her concert and about the organ. >   Gorgeous new church building, stunning organ case. Cherry opened with = Bach Toccata in F, which could have been successful on a 2 rank portative. I thought the upper work sounded harsh and unstable, rather than singing. = One of the pieces was by a priest, and was very lovely. The final selection sounded to me like music to slash your wrists by. Those around me felt differently and responded with a rousing standing ovation.   Cherry looked stunning, played confidently and (I assume) accurately. More =   than that, she certainly played passionately.   The organ sounded harsh and brittle to me, even in the generous acoustic = of the building.   Steven Skinner Minister of Music First Presbyterian Church of the Covenant Erie, PA   --part1_1a9.6937e37.2a87a877_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/11/2002 1:29:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pnst.shirley@verizon.net = writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">For those who were = at the Philly AGO convention and went to hear Cherry <BR> Rhodes at Trinity Lutheran in Lansdale, I'd be interested in hearing your = <BR> opinions of her concert and about the organ.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Gorgeous new church building, stunning organ case.&nbsp; Cherry opened = with Bach Toccata in F, which could have been successful on a 2 rank = portative. I thought the upper work sounded harsh and unstable, rather = than singing.&nbsp; One of the pieces was by a priest, and was very = lovely. The final selection sounded to me like music to slash your wrists = by.&nbsp; Those around me felt differently and responded with a rousing = standing ovation. <BR> <BR> Cherry looked stunning, played confidently and (I assume) accurately. More = than that, she certainly played passionately.<BR> <BR> The organ sounded harsh and brittle to me, even in the generous acoustic = of the building.<BR> <BR> Steven Skinner<BR> Minister of Music<BR> First Presbyterian Church of the Covenant<BR> Erie, PA</FONT></HTML>   --part1_1a9.6937e37.2a87a877_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Separate levels for Generals and Divisionals From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 05:28:18 -0700       > Harrison and Harrison has an SSL system like this on the organ in > Hendersonville, NC. One of my friends played it and said that it was = good > because you can keep all your divisional pistons set up and only change = the > Generals, or Vice Versa. There are two selectors on the memory = panel.....one > for Generals and one for Divisionals. > > I don't know that I would necessarily like that set-up, only being used = to > the "American" way of multiple memories, only because I'd have to get > accustomed to that system. > > Monty Bennett >   It would seem logical to me to EITHER be able to cut and paste the divisional settings from memory to memory, OR to be able to set them separately, as above, since I do a LOT of improvising and accompanying, and I ALWAYS set the DIVISIONAL pistons in dynamic order, from softest to loudest ... Full Swell to Reeds is ALWAYS the highest number on the Swell pistons, so I can always find it quickly and easily.   An interesting sidebar: before multiple memories, Riverside Church had a set of "blind" pistons with the most-used service combinations on them, in addition to the myriad general and divisional pistons. I forget when that was, exactly ... I think it was the first console rebuild after Fox left. I think they were below the fifth manual ... but that was a LONG time ago (grin).   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Trinity, Lansdale From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 08:29:35 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0445_01C24111.397C92B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Steven's reaction to this organ was my reaction when I visited the =3D church with 45 touring English organists a couple of years ago, almost =3D all of them trying the organ with various bits of music they had with =3D them. This was not a style of instrument familiar to most of them, and =3D in their hands, there was indeed a certain harshness and edge to the =3D sound.   I did not hear Cherry at AGO, but the following week, I heard a stunning = =3D recital by Martin Jean, a part of a conference of Lutheran Church =3D Musicians held at Trinity. In his hands, at all times, the organ sounded = =3D absolutely wonderful - really warm, singing, and exciting - and he =3D played an extremely varied program. Buxtehude at the beginning, and the = =3D Reubke at the end. Martin Ott was present, and clearly very happy at how = =3D the instrument had been understood and used.   I have notes from that interesting concert, and I hope to write about it = =3D in some detail when my head clears from a week in Atlanta.   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com=3D20 ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Steskinner@aol.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 7:45 AM Subject: Re: Trinity, Lansdale     In a message dated 8/11/2002 1:29:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, =3D pnst.shirley@verizon.net writes:       For those who were at the Philly AGO convention and went to hear =3D Cherry=3D20 Rhodes at Trinity Lutheran in Lansdale, I'd be interested in hearing = =3D your=3D20 opinions of her concert and about the organ.       Gorgeous new church building, stunning organ case. Cherry opened with = =3D Bach Toccata in F, which could have been successful on a 2 rank =3D portative. I thought the upper work sounded harsh and unstable, rather =3D than singing. One of the pieces was by a priest, and was very lovely. =3D The final selection sounded to me like music to slash your wrists by. =3D Those around me felt differently and responded with a rousing standing =3D ovation.=3D20   Cherry looked stunning, played confidently and (I assume) accurately. = =3D More than that, she certainly played passionately.   The organ sounded harsh and brittle to me, even in the generous =3D acoustic of the building.   Steven Skinner Minister of Music First Presbyterian Church of the Covenant Erie, PA=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0445_01C24111.397C92B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2716.2200" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Steven's reaction to this organ was = my =3D reaction=3D20 when I visited the church with 45 touring English organists a couple of = =3D years=3D20 ago, almost all of them trying the organ with various bits of music they = =3D had=3D20 with them. This was not a style of instrument familiar to most of them, = =3D and in=3D20 their hands, there was indeed a certain harshness and edge to the=3D20 sound.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I did not hear Cherry at AGO, but the = =3D following=3D20 week, I heard a stunning recital by Martin Jean, a part of a conference = =3D of=3D20 Lutheran Church Musicians held at Trinity. In his hands, at all times, =3D the organ=3D20 sounded absolutely wonderful - really warm, singing, and exciting&nbsp;- = =3D and he=3D20 played an extremely varied program. Buxtehude at the beginning, and the = =3D Reubke=3D20 at the end. Martin Ott was present, and clearly very happy at how the =3D instrument=3D20 had been understood and used.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I have notes from that interesting =3D concert, and I=3D20 hope to write about it in some detail when my head clears from a week in = =3D   Atlanta.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Malcolm Wechsler</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.mander-organs.com">www.mander-organs.com</A> =3D </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DSteskinner@aol.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Steskinner@aol.com">Steskinner@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 11, 2002 = =3D 7:45=3D20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Trinity, =3D Lansdale</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D3D2>In a =3D message dated=3D20 8/11/2002 1:29:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, <A=3D20 = href=3D3D"mailto:pnst.shirley@verizon.net">pnst.shirley@verizon.net</A>=3D2= 0 writes:<BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = =3D solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=3D20 TYPE=3D3D"CITE">For those who were at the Philly AGO convention and went = =3D to hear=3D20 Cherry <BR>Rhodes at Trinity Lutheran in Lansdale, I'd be interested = =3D in=3D20 hearing your <BR>opinions of her concert and about the=3D20 organ.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Gorgeous new church building, stunning = =3D organ=3D20 case.&nbsp; Cherry opened with Bach Toccata in F, which could have =3D been=3D20 successful on a 2 rank portative. I thought the upper work sounded =3D harsh and=3D20 unstable, rather than singing.&nbsp; One of the pieces was by a =3D priest, and=3D20 was very lovely. The final selection sounded to me like music to slash = =3D your=3D20 wrists by.&nbsp; Those around me felt differently and responded with a = =3D rousing=3D20 standing ovation. <BR><BR>Cherry looked stunning, played confidently =3D and (I=3D20 assume) accurately. More than that, she certainly played=3D20 passionately.<BR><BR>The organ sounded harsh and brittle to me, even =3D in the=3D20 generous acoustic of the building.<BR><BR>Steven Skinner<BR>Minister =3D of=3D20 Music<BR>First Presbyterian Church of the Covenant<BR>Erie, = PA</FONT>=3D20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0445_01C24111.397C92B0--      
(back) Subject: Re: Johannus Organs From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 07:35:48 -0500   At 7:49 AM -0400 08/11/2002, Antoni Scott wrote: >Which is better, the latest Allen or the latest Johannus ? > >Antoni Scott   PLEASE - That this over to the EORG-L list!!   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: New Topics From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 08:47:35 EDT     --part1_da.1c1c7629.2a87b6e7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/11/2002 2:31:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ctackett1@qwest.net writes:     > Does anyone have a list of recommended texts or compositions to broaden = my > (self) study of the instrument? I'm fairly comfortable with my hands = being a > pianist and all, but I could use some help with the feet. Is there a = graded > list of organ works (I'm thinking Bach specifically, but all composers = are > welcome) that I could work through to improve my skills and learn some = good > music on the way? >   Firstly, I would suggest that you acquire a copy of: An Organist's Manual - Roger Davis Orgelbuchlein - JSB - I have 2 different Barenreiter Editions and the = Dupre ed. The Mendellsohn School (ed. Wayne Leupold) Romantic Adagios (ed Wayne Leupold) any collections of music by/arr. by : Wilbur Held, Charles Callahan, Paul =   Manz   All of the above recommended (by me) have pieces of varying difficulty = that are useful for general church preludes/voluntariies/offertories.   Rick in VA   --part1_da.1c1c7629.2a87b6e7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/11/2002 2:31:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ctackett1@qwest.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Does anyone have a = list of recommended texts or compositions to broaden my <BR>(self) study of the instrument? I'm fairly comfortable with my hands = being a <BR>pianist and all, but I could use some help with the feet. Is there a = graded <BR>list of organ works (I'm thinking Bach specifically, but all composers = are <BR>welcome) that I could work through to improve my skills and learn some = good <BR>music on the way? <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Firstly, I would suggest that you acquire a copy of: <BR>An Organist's Manual - Roger Davis <BR>Orgelbuchlein - JSB - I have 2 different Barenreiter Editions and the = Dupre ed. <BR>The Mendellsohn School (ed. Wayne Leupold) <BR>Romantic Adagios (ed Wayne Leupold) <BR>any collections of music by/arr. by : &nbsp;Wilbur Held, Charles = Callahan, Paul Manz <BR> <BR>All of the above recommended (by me) have pieces of varying difficulty = that are useful for general church preludes/voluntariies/offertories. <BR> <BR>Rick in VA</FONT></HTML>   --part1_da.1c1c7629.2a87b6e7_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Johannus Organs From: "Jim Hailey" <jhaileya10@charter.net> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 08:32:03 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Antoni Scott" <ascott@ptd.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 6:49 AM Subject: Re: Johannus Organs     > Which is better, the latest Allen or the latest Johannus ? > > Antoni Scott > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: methods and music From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 06:11:04 -0700   METHODS   Method of Organ-Playing - Gleason Method d' Orgue - Dupre The Organ - Stainer (yeah, it's old-fashioned, BUT ...)   MUSIC   Eight Little Preludes and Fugues - Bach Mass for the Parishes - Couperin Mass for the Convents - Couperin Fiori Musicale - Frescobaldi Sixty Short Pieces - Flor Peeters The Parish Organist series - published by Concordia L'Organiste - Franck - but be sure to read the preface in the Kalmus edition for REGISTRATION explanation   Somewhere in the archives is a list of music for the small organ ... a lot of those are without pedal.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Oops From: "Jim Hailey" <jhaileya10@charter.net> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 08:36:46 -0500   I just sent an empty reply to a post here. I thought I hit delete and = hit send. Please excuse it.   Jim H.