PipeChat Digest #3042 - Tuesday, August 13, 2002
 
Re: American Scale Numbers
  by "Robert Lind" <Robert_Lind@cch.com>
Hammond Registration
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
falling organ music
  by "Robert Lind" <Robert_Lind@cch.com>
Swirling Demons
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
RE: falling organ music
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: Scales and large pipes
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Swirling Demons
  by "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com>
Worshipful Atmosphere/Clapping/Jewish
  by "orgel koenigen" <adamkgny@yahoo.com>
Re: American Scale Numbers
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Worshipful Atmosphere/Clapping--Way off topic now
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #3040 - 08/13/02
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #3040 - 08/13/02
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Suggestion for new topic:Alternative practice instruments
  by "Patricia/Thomas Gregory" <tgregory@speeddial.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: American Scale Numbers From: "Robert Lind" <Robert_Lind@cch.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 14:49:07 -0500   Is this Andersen of whom you speak Arthur Andersen LLP? I should think these scaling practices are highly suspect after all the developments of the past few months. And I suppose Barnes is from Howe Barnes. How long can we trust them, I ask?   We'd better scale new heights in looking for an honest man, Damocles, or Demosthenes, or whoever the heck that lantern guy is.   Bob Lind who once met W.H. Barnes at ... are you ready for this ... the Saville electronic organ factory many moons ago.           TubaMagna@aol.com 08/13/2002 02:11 PM Please respond to PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> To: pemmons@wcupa.edu@SMTP@cchntmsd, pipechat@pipechat.org@SMTP@cchntmsd cc: Subject: American Scale Numbers     The scale number system, and its derivation, are explained in Barnes. A brief history of scaling practices is handled in Andersen.    
(back) Subject: Hammond Registration From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:06:34 -0500   Don't have the book, but there are almost always a number of copies available on Ebay.   Dennis Steckley   Ich liebe meine Katzen _____________________________   Gary - Somewhere in my jumble of moving boxes at home, I have a book that gives drawbar registrations for all sorts of combinations of real (i.e. flutes, principals, etc.) stops. If I have an opportunity in the next couple days or so, I'll see if I can find the book, so I can share the author/publisher info. If there are any other members who might have a similar book, perhaps they could respond as well.   David Carter      
(back) Subject: falling organ music From: "Robert Lind" <Robert_Lind@cch.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:08:20 -0500   I also remember a moment in which an organ score (photocopied sheets all taped together and strung out along the = music rack) started to fall. It was an all-Bach members' recital in a local AGO chapter in 1985, and the guy who was playing was so bad that we just sat there in stunned disbelief and let it fall. He had to stop, retrieve his roll of paper off the floor, clamber back onto the bench, and (mercifully) pick up where he'd left off. I suppose we all were inexcusably = ill-mannered, but it's compelling to think that not one person ventured forth ... we = were glued to our seats and probably wondering if we were dreaming the whole thing.   Bob Lind         David Carter <davidorganist2002@yahoo.com> 08/13/2002 02:34 PM Please respond to PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org>@SMTP@cchntmsd cc: Subject: Handel's Messiah - Organ Accompaniment     During one of the performances, the score started to fall from the music rack, so I spent all of 'The Trumpet Shall Sound' holding up the entire score to keep it from falling and causing a major train wreck, so to speak.    
(back) Subject: Swirling Demons From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:10:04 -0500   I have no idea what the organist did, but I'll send him a query and report back.   Dennis Steckley   Ich liebe meine Katzen ---------------------------------------------------------------------   Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #3040 - 08/13/02 From: "basset3" <basset3@hvc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:23:51 -0400     "And those this world with devils filled" the organist filled the sanctuary with the sounds of swirling demons   Please describe how so I can try it too--(registration, harmonies, etc.). Thanks.   Robert Clooney      
(back) Subject: RE: falling organ music From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:11:19 -0400   Let's hope he's not on this list. RBC =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D   I also remember a moment in which an organ score (photocopied sheets all taped together and strung out along the = music rack) started to fall. It was an all-Bach members' recital in a local = AGO... Bob Lind    
(back) Subject: Re: Scales and large pipes From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:19:47 EDT   Daer Paul:   Scales and their progression derive from a theoretical pipe diameter at 32' for flues. Now I've personally seen huge scaled pipes of 32' metal in Ripon and Yorkminster of aproximately 36" in diameter at low C. The mouths w/o being able to accurately measure them were probably at least 2/9ths of that. The metal was nearly an inch thick and the cut ups at least 6". The expense in metal alone for each pipe must have ment a small fortune. These pipes could easily have weighed a ton more or less. A small crane necessary to lift it in place. The wooden supports must have been made out of massive timbers. The fabrication alone must have been a very big undertaking building it in sections and soldering them together. Is there someone in the UK more familiar with these. Harrison and Harrison I know was looking after the Ripon Cathedral organ when I was there in 1995. I don't think even these were #1 or #2 scales. I'm sure the windpresures were very high to drive these monsters. They appeared very formidable and powerful with no stinting here. These instruments were certainly in keeping with the size of the church. These pipes were a good distance from the main manual divisions on the choir screens and located on the floor behind the choir stalls and in the crossings. At Chester Cathedral the arrangement was very similar. The sheer weight of these pipes would soon break an organ case from it's moorings so were placed out of harms way.   The 8' Diapasons could have been easily #1 open 38 scale, #2 open 40 scale, # 3 open 41-2 scale, # 4 Open 44 scale, and # 5 open 45 scale on the great chorus alone.   It was suprising to me that relative to all this, the number of ranks was really in the range of 65 to 95 ranks with Liverpool toping out at over 125 stops. Each stop had a purpose, and didn't come close to the number of stops on some of the big organs in the US but sounded huge. St. Paul's London now rivals the size of Liverpool. Several of these organs were originally installed in the 1800's so it leaves one with a lot of questions. Several have been added to and changed over the years. It must also be added that these buildings were built to be alive. It's quite a riviting experience to hear one going full bore = too.   I would opine that the scalings at Atlantic City Convention Center organ are very similar to what I saw in the UK due to the overall size of the building.   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Swirling Demons From: "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:30:38 -0400   How about the Boellmann Toccata from Suite Gothique? Tom Hoehn, Organist Tampa Theatre, Tampa, FL First United Methodist Church, Clearwater, FL CFTOS/Manasota/OATOS/HiloBay/CIC-ATOS http://theatreorgans.com/tomhoehn ----- Original Message ----- From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 4:10 PM Subject: Swirling Demons     > I have no idea what the organist did, but I'll send him a query and > report back. > > Dennis Steckley > > Ich liebe meine Katzen > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #3040 - 08/13/02 > From: "basset3" <basset3@hvc.rr.com> > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:23:51 -0400 > > > "And those this world with devils filled" the organist filled the > sanctuary with the sounds of swirling demons > > Please describe how so I can try it too--(registration, harmonies, > etc.). Thanks. > > Robert Clooney > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >    
(back) Subject: Worshipful Atmosphere/Clapping/Jewish From: "orgel koenigen" <adamkgny@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 14:15:51 -0700 (PDT)   As a Jew who has wandered the landscape from American Reform to Orthodox, to Labavitch Hassidic Ultra Orthodox, to Conservative, Australian Progressive, and Australian-South African conservi-dox; I can assure you that Jews do not generally clap during services.   Amongst the Reform anything goes, of course. But, the only time I have ever heard anyone clap in a Jewish service is during services where singing is the mode of prayer and a particular song calls for clapping as one would in gospel singing.   Historically mistranslated bible quotes and interpretations notwithstanding, as it regards music the issue seems relevant. (Conservative and Reform do have music; many have higly skilled choirs.)   Adam   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com  
(back) Subject: Re: American Scale Numbers From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:34:43 -0400   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Lind" <Robert_Lind@cch.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 3:49 PM Subject: Re: American Scale Numbers     > Bob Lind > who once met W.H. Barnes at ... are you > ready for this ... the Saville electronic organ factory many moons ago. > > Did not the very last edition of Barnes include a whole chapter on the Saville instrument, which he was endorsing as the wave of the future?   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com          
(back) Subject: Re: Worshipful Atmosphere/Clapping--Way off topic now From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:55:59 EDT     --part1_22.2d24f5ce.2a8ae87f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/13/02 7:33:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RMB10@aol.com =   writes:     > <First of all, let me just warn the list taht Bible quotes follow. I = don't > want this to be a Bible lesson, but Bruce questioned where clapping is >   Nooope! I believe I asked hos clapping was a "part of Jewish worship."   <> Well, just off the top of my head, comes Psalm 47:1 "Clap your hands, = all > you > nations, shout to God with cries of joy." (this and all other quotes = from > the New International Version) > This can hardly be a command to clap in worship.   <> Psalm 98:8 "Let the rivers clap their hand, let the mountains sing = together > for joy" >   ummmm... last time I looked, rivers don't have hands, and moutains can't = sing.   > Isaiah 55:12 "You will go out with job and be led forth in peace, the > moutains and the hills with burst into song before you, and all the = trees > will clap their hands" > sigh... trees don't have hands either, and I've yet to hear a mountain = burst into song.     > If all the things on earth are clapping their hands, I just think that = it's > probably alright for humans to clap, also, when the spirit leads.   Except that "all the things on earth" that are clapping their hands, don't =   have hands, but it is a legitimate way to express appreciation to God, but = it is appropriate for orderly worship. Screaming, hooting, and foot = stomping are very widely used forms of showing gratitude southern-style, but I wouldn't recommend it for church, either.   > When people clap just to applaud someone who has done something in the > service, it just seems to add confusion. When clapping is done in = praise > to God, to me, it never seems to be a distraction.   How do we ascertain people's clappy motives? Judge not... etc!     > > Lewis from his writing "On Church Music": "There are two musical > situations > on which I think we can be confident that a blessing rests. One is = where a > priest or an organist, himself a man of trained and delicate taste, = humbly > and charitably sacrifices his own (aesthetically right) desires and = gives > the > people humbler and coarser fare than he would wish, in a belief (even, = as > it > may be, the erroneous belief) that he can thus bring them to God. The > other > is where the stupid and unmusical layman humbly and patiently, and above =   > all > silently, listens to music which he cannont, or cannot fully, = appreciate, > in > the belief that it somehow glorifies God, and that if it does not edify = him > this must be his own defect. Neither such a High Brow nor such a Low = Brow > can be far out of the way. to both, Church Music will have been a means = of > grace; not the music that they have liked, but the music they have > disliked. > They have both offered, sacrificed, their taste in the fullest sense."   .... a lofty example that proves nothings and, to me (with all due respect = to Lewis) smacks of clergy smugness!   So, I ask again... how was clapping A PART OF JEWISH WORSHIP?   Thankye! ;-)   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_22.2d24f5ce.2a8ae87f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/13/02 7:33:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RMB10@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">&lt;First of all, = let me just warn the list taht Bible quotes follow. &nbsp;I don't <BR>want this to be a Bible lesson, but &nbsp;Bruce questioned where = clapping is <BR>mentioned in the Bible and how it is a command.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Nooope! &nbsp;I believe I asked hos clapping was a "part of Jewish worship." <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">&lt;<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE = style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Well, just off the top of my head, comes Psalm = 47:1 "Clap your hands, all you <BR>nations, shout to God with cries of joy." &nbsp;(this and all other = quotes from <BR>the New International Version) <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR>This can hardly be a command to clap in worship. <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">&lt;<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE = style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Psalm 98:8 "Let the rivers clap their hand, let = the mountains sing together <BR>for joy" <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">ummmm... last time I looked, rivers don't have = hands, and moutains can't sing. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px">Isaiah 55:12 &nbsp;"You will go out with job and be led forth in = peace, the <BR>moutains and the hills with burst into song before you, and all the = trees <BR>will clap their hands" <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR>sigh... trees don't have hands either, and I've yet to hear a mountain = burst into song. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px">If all the things on earth are clapping their hands, I just think = that it's <BR>probably alright for humans to clap, also, when the spirit leads. = </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Except that "all the things on earth" that are = clapping their hands, don't have hands, but it is a legitimate way to = express appreciation to God, but it is appropriate for orderly worship. = &nbsp;&nbsp;Screaming, hooting, and foot stomping are very widely used = forms of showing gratitude southern-style, but I wouldn't recommend it for = church, either. <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> When people clap = just to applaud someone who has done something in the service, it just = seems to add confusion. &nbsp;When clapping is done in praise to God, to = me, it never seems to be a distraction.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">How do we ascertain people's clappy motives? = &nbsp;&nbsp;Judge not... etc! <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Let me end this little sermonette with a quote = from the great writer C. S. <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px">Lewis from his writing "On Church Music": &nbsp;"There are two = musical situations <BR>on which I think we can be confident that a blessing rests. &nbsp;One = is where a <BR>priest or an organist, himself a man of trained and delicate taste, = humbly <BR>and charitably sacrifices his own (aesthetically right) desires and = gives the <BR>people humbler and coarser fare than he would wish, in a belief (even, = as it <BR>may be, &nbsp;the erroneous belief) that he can thus bring them to = God. &nbsp;The other <BR>is where the stupid and unmusical layman humbly and patiently, and = above all <BR>silently, listens to music which he cannont, or cannot fully, = appreciate, in <BR>the belief that it somehow glorifies God, and that if it does not = edify him <BR>this must be his own defect. &nbsp;Neither such a High Brow nor such a = Low Brow <BR>can be far out of the way. &nbsp;to both, Church Music will have been = a means of <BR>grace; not the music that they have liked, but the music they have = disliked. &nbsp; <BR>They have both offered, sacrificed, their taste in the fullest = sense."</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>... a lofty example that proves nothings and, to me (with all due = respect to Lewis) smacks of clergy smugness! <BR> <BR>So, I ask again... how was clapping A PART OF JEWISH WORSHIP? <BR> <BR>Thankye! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_22.2d24f5ce.2a8ae87f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #3040 - 08/13/02 From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 19:01:01 EDT     --part1_131.1242e3e1.2a8ae9ad_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/13/02 10:41:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, = kzrev@rr1.net writes:     > Whenever we sang "A Mighty Fortress" and got to > that line, "And those this world with devils filled" (or whatever it > is), the organist filled the sanctuary with the sounds of swirling > demons.   I recall one Sunday close on the heels of an OHS convention, one of the = hymns had a reference to thunder in one of the stanzas. I put on the pedal 16 =   Posaune and Open Diapason and stomped all over the bottom octave. Got = lots of "neat-o, nifty, and keene" comments after church, except from the minister who said that probably hurt the organ! (cruddoid!!) ;-)   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_131.1242e3e1.2a8ae9ad_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/13/02 10:41:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kzrev@rr1.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Whenever we sang = "A Mighty Fortress" and got to <BR>that line, "And those this world with devils filled" (or whatever it <BR>is), the organist filled the sanctuary with the sounds of swirling <BR>demons. &nbsp;VERY effective!</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>I recall one Sunday close on the heels of an OHS convention, one of = the hymns had a reference to thunder in one of the stanzas. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I put on the pedal 16 Posaune and Open Diapason and = stomped all over the bottom octave. &nbsp;&nbsp;Got lots of "neat-o, = nifty, and keene" &nbsp;comments after church, except from the minister = who said that probably hurt the organ! &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(cruddoid!!) = &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_131.1242e3e1.2a8ae9ad_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #3040 - 08/13/02 From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 19:03:30 EDT     --part1_180.bfb25a8.2a8aea42_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/13/02 11:24:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, basset3@hvc.rr.com writes:     > sounds of swirling demons > > Please describe how so I can try it too--(registration, harmonies, = etc.). >   I think Swirling Demons are made with several kinds of rum and fruit juices... you make "swirling" sounds by stirring really fast!! ;-)   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_180.bfb25a8.2a8aea42_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/13/02 11:24:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, basset3@hvc.rr.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">sounds of swirling = demons <BR> <BR>Please describe how so I can try it too--(registration, harmonies, = etc.). <BR>Thanks.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>I think Swirling Demons are made with &nbsp;several kinds of rum and = fruit juices... you make "swirling" sounds by stirring really fast!! = &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_180.bfb25a8.2a8aea42_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Suggestion for new topic:Alternative practice instruments From: "Patricia/Thomas Gregory" <tgregory@speeddial.net> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:15:26 -0500   Greetings:   I am sure there are many organists who find it difficult to practice due = to travel distance, un-airconditioned buildings, and locations where heating costs prohibit maintaining comfortable temperatures.   It is a "given" that most of us cannot afford a small pipe organ or an AGO standard electronic substitute.   Does anyone on Pipechat use AGO standard two manual/pedal American reed organs or European harmoniums for home practice?   Estey, along with other American companies, manufactured instruments that are ideal for practice purposes.   Best wishes,   Tom Gregory   -- Thomas and Patricia Gregory 716 West College Avenue Waukesha WI USA 53186-4569