PipeChat Digest #3044 - Tuesday, August 13, 2002
 
Re: Suggestion for new topic:Alternative practice instruments
  by "Edric Russell" <russ@eci.co.za>
Re: Last Sunday
  by "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net>
Home Organs
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: Last Sunday
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
Re: Alternative practice instruments
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Allen available
  by "J. Nathan" <jnatpat@infi.net>
Re: New Topics
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
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Re: Suggestion for new topic:Alternative practice instruments
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(back) Subject: Re: Suggestion for new topic:Alternative practice instruments From: "Edric Russell" <russ@eci.co.za> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 02:10:56 +0200   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_002A_01C24337.D3331DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable     ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: "Patricia/Thomas Gregory" <tgregory@speeddial.net> To: "Pipechat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 1:15 AM Subject: Suggestion for new topic:Alternative practice instruments     Greetings: =3D20 I am sure there are many organists who find it difficult to practice =3D due to travel distance, un-airconditioned buildings, and locations where =3D heating costs prohibit maintaining comfortable temperatures. =3D20 It is a "given" that most of us cannot afford a small pipe organ or an = =3D AGO standard electronic substitute. =3D20 Does anyone on Pipechat use AGO standard two manual/pedal American reed = =3D organs or European harmoniums for home practice? ********************************************** I have a Rushworth and Dreaper 2 manual/pedal reed organ found about a =3D year ago in a store room at an old church in the 'sticks' of South =3D Africa. I had it totally restored by an organ builder and it is a =3D fantastic instrument to play. The heavy "Tracker" action took some =3D getting used to, with most South African Pipe Organs having electric =3D action.   It can be pumped via a handle on the side, or you can use foot pedals to = =3D pump the organ as long as you remove the 'note' pedals from their =3D housing. It also came with an ancient electric blower, which is used =3D rather than to get my wife pumping !!! She objects strongly, and is =3D glad she is living in the 21st Century where electricity is freely =3D avalable.     It is interesting to read Pats reasons as to why such an organ in the =3D home is useful today. I think when my organ was made, there was no =3D electricity in most homes or churches. If you wanted to practice on =3D your church organ, you no doubt needed someone to light the lanterns, = =3D and somebody to pump the organ. Far more convenient to practice at =3D home and use your wife and kids to do the pumping and the candle =3D lighting!!!     Edric Russell uss@eci.co/za=3D20     ------=3D_NextPart_000_002A_01C24337.D3331DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial>----- Original Message ----- </FONT> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial>From: "Patricia/Thomas Gregory" = &lt;</FONT><A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:tgregory@speeddial.net"><FONT=3D20 face=3D3DArial>tgregory@speeddial.net</FONT></A><FONT =3D face=3D3DArial>&gt;</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial>To: "Pipechat" &lt;</FONT><A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org"><FONT=3D20 face=3D3DArial>pipechat@pipechat.org</FONT></A><FONT =3D face=3D3DArial>&gt;</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial>Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 1:15 =3D AM</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial>Subject: Suggestion for new topic:Alternative = =3D practice=3D20 instruments</FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial> Greetings:<BR>&nbsp;<BR> I am sure there are = =3D many=3D20 organists who find it difficult to practice due to<BR>&nbsp;travel =3D distance,=3D20 un-airconditioned buildings, and locations where heating<BR>&nbsp;costs = =3D prohibit=3D20 maintaining comfortable temperatures.<BR>&nbsp;<BR> It is a "given" that = =3D most of=3D20 us cannot afford a small pipe organ or an AGO<BR>&nbsp;standard =3D electronic=3D20 substitute.<BR>&nbsp;<BR> Does anyone on Pipechat use AGO standard = two=3D20 manual/pedal American reed organs or European harmoniums for home=3D20 practice?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20 color=3D3D#ff0000>**********************************************</FONT></DI= =3D V> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial>I have a Rushworth and Dreaper 2 manual/pedal =3D reed organ=3D20 found about a year ago in a store room at an old church in the 'sticks' = =3D of South=3D20 Africa.&nbsp; I had it totally restored by an organ builder and it is = a=3D20 fantastic instrument to play.&nbsp; The heavy "Tracker" action took some = =3D getting=3D20 used to, with most South African Pipe Organs having electric=3D20 action.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial>It can be pumped via a handle on the side, or = =3D you can use=3D20 foot pedals to pump the organ as long as you remove the 'note' pedals =3D from their=3D20 housing.&nbsp; It also came with an ancient electric blower,&nbsp; which = =3D is used=3D20 rather than to get my wife pumping !!!&nbsp; She objects strongly,&nbsp; = =3D and is=3D20 glad she is living in the 21st Century where electricity is freely=3D20 avalable.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial>It is interesting to read Pats reasons as to why = =3D such an=3D20 organ in the home is useful today.&nbsp; I think when my organ was =3D made,&nbsp;=3D20 there was no electricity in most homes or churches.&nbsp; If you wanted = =3D to=3D20 practice on your church organ,&nbsp;&nbsp; you no doubt needed someone =3D to light=3D20 the lanterns,&nbsp; and somebody to pump the organ.&nbsp;&nbsp; Far more = =3D   convenient to practice at home and use your wife and kids to do the =3D pumping and=3D20 the candle lighting!!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial>Edric Russell</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:uss@eci.co/za">uss@eci.co/za</A>&nbsp;<BR></DIV></FONT></B= =3D ODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_002A_01C24337.D3331DC0--    
(back) Subject: Re: Last Sunday From: "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 19:33:30 -0500   I occasionally play an Allen with an identical stoplist...was this organ produced around 1980? I know that the church was built in 1980, and it would make sense that they bought a new organ.   I did like the bass, but the full organ is quite "dark", adding the Sw 16' flute and playing up an octave really helps. I do enjoy the organ...and the bass is quite good. It's definitely floor-rumbling. Maybe the organ you play is a bit different, but the experience I've had with an organ of this stoplist was very good. It isn't the most "pipe-like" sound, but it does the job, and it's fun to play :-)   Paul     Cremona502@cs.com wrote: > > It's not analog, but it one of the very early digitals. Here is what > was accomplished today. > > There's no reason to substitute the Chimes for a Mixture III, since > the last thing the digi- needs is another mixture, so why spend the > money. > > We can't add channels... this is a two-channel job using a > "universal" board. We can add speakers but that would just put more > sound up front. > > It was suggested that I turn the speakers around so that they face > away from the congregation, thus taking the edge off of the mixture > and reed. I'll give it a shot. Whom knows? > > The other suggestion was, rather than adding two speakers in the > front, to add four presence projectors in the coves in the nave. This > would give the sound more presence in the entire room and make it more > even throughout, also allowing me to turn down the gain and eliminate > some of the harshness. > > We turned down the bass on the Bourdon 16 and Basson 16. The Bourdon > is much better, but the Basson is still butt-ugly and sounds like a > very bad Trumpet. The reduced midrange response helped the Trompet > and the Spitzprincipal 4 on the Swell a bit. I think that's about > all we can do. Oh to have three ranks of pipes!!! ;-) > > Basically, now it's playable and a bit more pleasant than before. > Adjusting the Principal 8 and Octave 4 to the correct volume has > rendered the Mixture IV, Basson 16 and Trompete 8 so loud as to be > unusable for services. It's no great loss.... the room is too small > to handle stops like these. A properly designed small instrument > would have an Oboe and a Clarinet, and possibly a quiet trumpet. I'd > rather have the principals, flutes and strings at their very best, and > live without the mixtures and reeds. > > The stoplist is: > Great: Principal 8, Gedeckt 8, Violas II 8 (sw), Octave 4, > Koppelflote 4 (sw), Superoctave 2, Mixture IV, Trompete 8 (sw), Chimes > > Swell: Bourdon 16 (ped), Gedeckt 8, Violas II 8, Viola Celeste 8, > Spitzprincipal 4, Koppelflote 4, Nasat 2-2/3, Blockflote 2, Basson 16, > Trompette 8. > Pedal: Bourdon 16, Lieblich Gedeckt 16, Octave 8, Gedeckt 8, Choral > Bass 4, Bassoon 16, Trompete 8 > > Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres > http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 > ...an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053  
(back) Subject: Home Organs From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 19:55:30 -0500   For that matter, Tom, just down (up?) the road from you in Fon du Lac, there's a 4-rank Barton church organ for sale; the owner says it fits in a space 9 X 9 X 9 (plus console and blower). He's asking $6,000; a rather modest investment, I'd say. It's on Church organ Trader now.   Dennis Steckley "For I am possessed of a cat, surpassing in beauty, from whom I take occasion to bless Almighty God."    
(back) Subject: Re: Last Sunday From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:24:12 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0018_01C2430F.C4A037C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Dear Bruce, To be honest with you, I hated the first digitals that Allen made. = =3D Markowitz used the oscilliscope model when he created voices (analog =3D era) but there are so many harmonics within a pipe voice that really =3D made it difficult to model. He went the old standby way which was to =3D create voices as he did with the analog instruments, add resistors, =3D capacitors, coils chokes etc. to create a voice.Unfortunately digital is = =3D pure so and digital was in its infancy so the first digitals were really = =3D terrible to my ear.=3D20 I just bought a used (1993) Allen Theatre III which will be =3D deilvered tomorrow. This is the MDS series, the one previous to the =3D present Rennaisance series. It uses sampled voices and has all of the =3D features of the present series except Virtual Acoustics. I shall create = =3D my own.=3D20 IF anyone is looking for a practice organ, I have stored in my barn = =3D a really good Custom IV with AGO Console and pedalboard. It does need =3D either a basement for the relay box and room for the console. The =3D speakers can be cut down or replaced for smaller speakers and remain =3D faithful to the old Allen sound. If you wnat it, come and get it.=3D20 Paul ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Cremona502@cs.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Last Sunday     Paul,=3D20 It's not analog, but it one of the very early digitals. Here is what = =3D was accomplished today.=3D20   There's no reason to substitute the Chimes for a Mixture III, since =3D the last thing the digi- needs is another mixture, so why spend the =3D money.=3D20   We can't add channels... this is a two-channel job using a =3D "universal" board. We can add speakers but that would just put more =3D sound up front. =3D20   It was suggested that I turn the speakers around so that they face =3D away from the congregation, thus taking the edge off of the mixture and = =3D reed. I'll give it a shot. Whom knows?=3D20   The other suggestion was, rather than adding two speakers in the =3D front, to add four presence projectors in the coves in the nave. This =3D would give the sound more presence in the entire room and make it more =3D even throughout, also allowing me to turn down the gain and eliminate =3D some of the harshness. =3D20   We turned down the bass on the Bourdon 16 and Basson 16. The Bourdon = =3D is much better, but the Basson is still butt-ugly and sounds like a very = =3D bad Trumpet. The reduced midrange response helped the Trompet and the = =3D Spitzprincipal 4 on the Swell a bit. I think that's about all we can = =3D do. Oh to have three ranks of pipes!!! ;-)=3D20   Basically, now it's playable and a bit more pleasant than before. =3D Adjusting the Principal 8 and Octave 4 to the correct volume has =3D rendered the Mixture IV, Basson 16 and Trompete 8 so loud as to be =3D unusable for services. It's no great loss.... the room is too small to = =3D handle stops like these. A properly designed small instrument would =3D have an Oboe and a Clarinet, and possibly a quiet trumpet. I'd rather = =3D have the principals, flutes and strings at their very best, and live =3D without the mixtures and reeds.=3D20   The stoplist is:=3D20 Great: Principal 8, Gedeckt 8, Violas II 8 (sw), Octave 4, =3D Koppelflote 4 (sw), Superoctave 2, Mixture IV, Trompete 8 (sw), = Chimes=3D20 Swell: Bourdon 16 (ped), Gedeckt 8, Violas II 8, Viola Celeste 8, =3D Spitzprincipal 4, Koppelflote 4, Nasat 2-2/3, Blockflote 2, Basson 16, =3D Trompette 8.=3D20 Pedal: Bourdon 16, Lieblich Gedeckt 16, Octave 8, Gedeckt 8, Choral =3D Bass 4, Bassoon 16, Trompete 8=3D20     Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres =3D http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502=3D20 ...an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053 = =3D     ------=3D_NextPart_000_0018_01C2430F.C4A037C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dear Bruce,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; To be honest = =3D with you, I=3D20 hated the first digitals that Allen made. Markowitz used the =3D oscilliscope model=3D20 when he created voices (analog era) but there are so many harmonics =3D within a=3D20 pipe voice that really made it difficult to model. He went the old =3D standby way=3D20 which was to create voices as he did with the analog instruments, add =3D resistors,=3D20 capacitors, coils chokes etc. to create&nbsp;a voice.Unfortunately =3D digital is=3D20 pure so and digital was in its infancy so the first digitals were really = =3D   terrible to my ear. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I just = bought =3D a used=3D20 (1993) Allen Theatre III which will be deilvered tomorrow. This is the =3D MDS=3D20 series, the one previous to the present Rennaisance series. It uses =3D sampled=3D20 voices and has all of the features of the present series except = Virtual=3D20 Acoustics. I shall create my own. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; IF anyone is = looking =3D for a=3D20 practice organ, I have stored in my barn a really good Custom IV with =3D AGO=3D20 Console and pedalboard. It does need either a basement for the relay box = =3D and=3D20 room for the console. The speakers can be cut down or replaced for =3D smaller=3D20 speakers and remain faithful to the old Allen sound. If you wnat it, =3D come and=3D20 get it. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20 size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs= =3D p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp= =3D ;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= =3D &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&= =3D nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 Paul</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DCremona502@cs.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Cremona502@cs.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 13, 2002 = =3D 7:18=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Last Sunday</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D3D2>Paul, =3D <BR>It's not=3D20 analog, but it one of the very early digitals. &nbsp;&nbsp;Here is =3D what was=3D20 accomplished today. <BR><BR>There's no reason to substitute the Chimes = =3D for a=3D20 Mixture III, since the last thing the digi- needs is another mixture, = =3D so why=3D20 spend the money. <BR><BR>We can't add channels... &nbsp;this is a =3D two-channel=3D20 job using a "universal" board. &nbsp;&nbsp;We can add speakers but =3D that would=3D20 just put more sound up front. &nbsp; <BR><BR>It was suggested that I =3D turn the=3D20 speakers around so that they face away from the congregation, thus =3D taking the=3D20 edge off of the mixture and reed. &nbsp;&nbsp;I'll give it a shot. =3D &nbsp;Whom=3D20 knows? <BR><BR>The other suggestion was, rather than adding two =3D speakers in=3D20 the front, to add four presence projectors in the coves in the nave. =3D This=3D20 would give the sound more presence in the entire room and make it more = =3D even=3D20 throughout, also allowing me to turn down the gain and eliminate some =3D of the=3D20 harshness. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR><BR>We turned down the bass on the =3D Bourdon=3D20 16 and Basson 16. &nbsp;&nbsp;The Bourdon is much better, but the =3D Basson is=3D20 still butt-ugly and sounds like a very bad Trumpet. =3D &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The=3D20 reduced midrange response helped the Trompet and the Spitzprincipal 4 = =3D on the=3D20 Swell a bit. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I think that's about all we can do. Oh = =3D to have=3D20 three ranks of pipes!!! &nbsp;;-) <BR><BR>Basically, now it's playable = =3D and a=3D20 bit more pleasant than before. &nbsp;&nbsp;Adjusting the Principal 8 =3D and=3D20 Octave 4 to the correct volume has rendered the Mixture IV, Basson 16 = =3D and=3D20 Trompete 8 so loud as to be unusable for services. &nbsp;It's no great = =3D   loss.... the room is too small to handle stops like these. =3D &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;A=3D20 properly designed small instrument would have an Oboe and a Clarinet, = =3D and=3D20 possibly a quiet trumpet. &nbsp;&nbsp;I'd rather have the principals, = =3D flutes=3D20 and strings at their very best, and live without the mixtures and =3D reeds.=3D20 <BR><BR>The stoplist is: <BR>Great: &nbsp;Principal 8, Gedeckt 8, =3D Violas II 8=3D20 (sw), Octave 4, Koppelflote 4 (sw), Superoctave 2, Mixture IV, =3D Trompete 8=3D20 (sw), Chimes <BR>Swell: &nbsp;Bourdon 16 (ped), Gedeckt 8, Violas II =3D 8, Viola=3D20 Celeste 8, Spitzprincipal 4, Koppelflote 4, Nasat 2-2/3, Blockflote 2, = =3D Basson=3D20 16, Trompette 8. <BR>Pedal: &nbsp;Bourdon 16, Lieblich Gedeckt 16, =3D Octave 8,=3D20 Gedeckt 8, Choral Bass 4, Bassoon 16, Trompete 8 <BR><BR><BR>Bruce in = =3D the=3D20 Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 =3D <BR>...an=3D20 opportunity for health &amp; wealth=3D20 &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT> =3D </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0018_01C2430F.C4A037C0--    
(back) Subject: Re: Alternative practice instruments From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:27:59 EDT   One can still find the occasional two manual and pedal Vocalion, some with =   their "pipefence" tops.  
(back) Subject: Allen available From: "J. Nathan" <jnatpat@infi.net> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:42:10 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_008F_01C24309.E5C40270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Where are you located, Paul? IF anyone is looking for a practice organ, I have stored in my =3D barn a really good Custom IV with AGO Console and pedalboard. It does =3D need either a basement for the relay box and room for the console. The =3D speakers can be cut down or replaced for smaller speakers and remain =3D faithful to the old Allen sound. If you wnat it, come and get it.=3D20 Paul   ------=3D_NextPart_000_008F_01C24309.E5C40270 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2716.2200" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Palatino Linotype">Where are you located, =3D Paul?</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT></DIV><FONT = face=3D3DArial=3D20 size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; IF anyone is looking for a practice organ, = =3D I have=3D20 stored in my barn a really good Custom IV with AGO Console and =3D pedalboard. It=3D20 does need either a basement for the relay box and room for the =3D console. The=3D20 speakers can be cut down or replaced for smaller speakers and remain =3D faithful=3D20 to the old Allen sound. If you wnat it, come and get it. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20 =3D size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs= =3D p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp= =3D ;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= =3D &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&= =3D nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 Paul</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_008F_01C24309.E5C40270--      
(back) Subject: Re: New Topics From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:43:18 EDT     --part1_19f.6e22df6.2a8b0fb6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hee Hee Hee, yourself. The Bible does not say you will go to Hell if = you're bad. Only if you don't Believe and Accept Christ as Savior. If it = weren't for that electronic thingie, there would be no organ in the church (or orgenet, or whatever everyone wants to call them) I can still play organ repertoire on it. That would be difficult on an drum or keyboard. Lee = ;-)   --part1_19f.6e22df6.2a8b0fb6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hee Hee Hee, yourself. = &nbsp;The Bible does not say you will go to Hell if you're bad. &nbsp;Only = if you don't Believe and Accept Christ as Savior. &nbsp;If it weren't for = that electronic thingie, there would be no organ in the church (or = orgenet, or whatever everyone wants to call them) &nbsp;I can still play = organ repertoire on it. &nbsp;That would be difficult on an drum or = keyboard. &nbsp;Lee ;-)</FONT></HTML>   --part1_19f.6e22df6.2a8b0fb6_boundary--  
(back) Subject: New Items From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:09:02 EDT     --part1_a.2375ce99.2a8b15be_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Sorry group, this was supposed to go to an individual, not the entire = group. I will be careful next time, not discussing some topics with everyone, = and sticking with music. Lee   --part1_a.2375ce99.2a8b15be_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sorry group, &nbsp;this = was supposed to go to an individual, not the entire group. &nbsp;I will be = careful next time, not discussing some topics with everyone, and sticking = with music. &nbsp;Lee</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a.2375ce99.2a8b15be_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Suggestion for new topic:Alternative practice instruments From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:18:13 EDT     --part1_4c.fe89b22.2a8b17e5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   As I have mentioned before, my practice organ is a very old WurliTzer, 2 = man. with AGO pedals. Now that I live in a small town, getting to the church = to practice is not like it was in the big city, but is sure is convenient to have one at home on which to practice. Lee   --part1_4c.fe89b22.2a8b17e5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>As I have mentioned = before, my practice organ is a very old WurliTzer, 2 man. with AGO pedals. = &nbsp;Now that I live in a small town, getting to the church to practice = is not like it was in the big city, but is sure is convenient to have one = at home on which to practice. &nbsp;Lee</FONT></HTML>   --part1_4c.fe89b22.2a8b17e5_boundary--