PipeChat Digest #3059 - Friday, August 16, 2002
 
RE: cornopean
  by "Barry H Bodie" <bbodie@InfoAve.Net>
Great/Choir - ref."When to go to a 3rd manual"
  by "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net>
RE: Notre Dame - Paris
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
In memoriam
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Improvisation - when it is and when it ain't.
  by "noel jones, aago" <gedeckt@usit.net>
RE: Notre Dame - Paris
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: cornopean
  by "straight" <straight@infoblvd.net>
Re: Notre Dame - Paris
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Notre Dame - Paris(agree with Randy)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Notre Dame - Paris
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Re: In memoriam
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
RE: In memoriam
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: Notre Dame - Paris
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: In memoriam
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
RE: In memoriam
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: Notre Dame - Paris
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Notre Dame - Paris(agree with Randy)
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: In memoriam
  by "Paul Austin" <paulaustin1@btopenworld.com>
Re: In memoriam
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: In memoriam
  by "straight" <straight@infoblvd.net>
Re: In memoriam(Perspective)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: cornopean From: "Barry H Bodie" <bbodie@InfoAve.Net> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:35:23 -0400   Cornopeans have come back into vogue. I know of one on the Harrison and Harrison instrument at St. James Church in Hendersonville, NC. It is a fairly nice, smooth trumpet stop. Not much edge to it. Same instrument has a very pungent horizontal trumpet on the choir which is more akin to an English Tuba stop.   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of COLASACCO ROBERT Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 11:20 AM To: 'pipechatpipechatorg' Subject: cornopean   Is Cornopean still used in building organs today? My recollection of the only one I was aware of hearing and playing was on my High School Organ in duh Bronx. I remember it was quite a powerful yet delightful stop. I've not seen it on stop lists I've observed in print of recent design. Digging back in my memory--what's left of it--it seemed like both a good solo stop and chorus stop.   Robert B. Colasacco Administrative Assistant/Secretary Distinguished Colleagues Population Council One Dag Hammarskjold Plaza New York, NY 10017 Direct Telephone: (212) 339-0685 Main Telephone: (212) 339-0500 Fax: (212) 755-6052 e-mail: rcolasacco@popcouncil.org Visit our web site: www.popcouncil.org     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Great/Choir - ref."When to go to a 3rd manual" From: "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:41:39 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_00FE_01C24519.E24B9BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi folks - Comments are requested on this idea for the church organ I =3D play; a small hybrid (7pipe ranks, 15 digital stops - all enclosed) 2 =3D manual 1951 Reuter with a good sound appropriate for the 150 seat =3D church.   Having now installed the Artisan solid-state controls and Artisan =3D digital voices (which are quite fine), we could group the Great =3D Principal chorus tabs separately from the secondary chorus tabs, which =3D could be "Choir". With the solid-state system we could provide 3 =3D lighted pistons (or larger buttons) named "GREAT, CHOIR, BOTH =3D (Coupled)". =3D20   The benefit here is to enable setting 2 different registrations and =3D switching the lower manual between them with one button push. It's not = =3D "3 manuals", but might be useful - what do you think?   "GREAT" stoptabs Principal chorus (3 ranks - 8,4,2) 16' and 8' Gedeckt (from Swell) Cornopean (digital)   "CHOIR" stoptabs GeigenPrincipal 8 Rohrflute 8 (digital) Gemshorn and G.Celeste 8 (digital) Gedeckt 4 (from Swell).   Ed, in Maine ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Cremona502@cs.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 4:23 PM Subject: Re: When to go to a 3rd manual     I've also seen organs in which the Great secondary chorus was =3D relegated to the Choir division. It worked very well.=3D20     ------=3D_NextPart_000_00FE_01C24519.E24B9BA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi folks - Comments are requested on = =3D this idea=3D20 for&nbsp;the church organ I play; a small hybrid (7pipe ranks, 15 =3D digital stops=3D20 - all enclosed) 2 manual 1951 Reuter with a&nbsp;good sound appropriate = =3D for the=3D20 150 seat church.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Having now installed the Artisan=3D20 solid-state&nbsp;controls and Artisan digital voices (which are quite=3D20 fine),&nbsp; we could group the Great Principal chorus tabs separately =3D from the=3D20 secondary chorus tabs, which could be "Choir".&nbsp;&nbsp;With the =3D solid-state=3D20 system we could provide 3 lighted pistons (or larger buttons) named =3D "GREAT,=3D20 CHOIR, BOTH (Coupled)".&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The benefit here is to enable setting = 2 =3D different=3D20 registrations and switching the lower manual between them with one =3D button=3D20 push.&nbsp; It's not "3 manuals", but might be useful - what do you=3D20 think?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>"GREAT" stoptabs</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Principal chorus = (3 =3D ranks -=3D20 8,4,2)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 16' and 8' Gedeckt = =3D (from=3D20 Swell)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = Cornopean&nbsp;=3D20 (digital)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>"CHOIR" stoptabs</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; GeigenPrincipal = =3D 8</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Rohrflute 8=3D20 (digital)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gemshorn and =3D G.Celeste 8=3D20 (digital)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gedeckt 4 = (from=3D20 Swell).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D Ed,&nbsp; in=3D20 Maine</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DCremona502@cs.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Cremona502@cs.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 15, 2002 = =3D 4:23=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: When to go to a = =3D 3rd=3D20 manual</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 =3D face=3D3DArial=3D20 color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">&nbsp;I've also seen = =3D organs in which=3D20 the Great secondary chorus was relegated to the Choir division. =3D &nbsp;It=3D20 worked very well. <BR></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_00FE_01C24519.E24B9BA0--    
(back) Subject: RE: Notre Dame - Paris From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 10:44:33 -0500   Perhaps crossing an organist with a sheep....   -----Original Message----- From: COLASACCO, ROBERT [mailto:RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 10:32 AM To: 'PipeChat' Subject: RE: Notre Dame - Paris     You know what, if it's repeated it ain't no improvisation! This is all too Frankensteinesque for me. Let's clone an organist. Robert Bernardino Colasacco   - =3D=3D=3DSure, but that's not the situation in Notre Dame. The organ = isn't playing hymns there and the tourists aren't singing. The organ, through the mechanical playback of an original performance, is playing improvisations and/or organ literature. At least that's what I thought was being = described in the earlier post.     Randy Runyon     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: In memoriam From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:47:15 -0400   So, anyone playing a tribute this Sunday? Huh? Maybe "Blue Suede Shoes" = at the Communion..."don't you--step on my blue suede shoes"? "You Ain't = nothin' but a Hound Dog"? Is that offertory material or meditative matter? = Anything? Having lived thru Elvis's showbiz life with him from his first appearance = on TV thru the end, I know nothing about him except that I never really cared either way about him or his music except the two songs I mentioned above. RBC  
(back) Subject: Improvisation - when it is and when it ain't. From: "noel jones, aago" <gedeckt@usit.net> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:52:51 -0400   Randy brings up an interesting topic.   While jazz players are thought to be inventing as they go, in reality they = are applying set patterns they like to play to the music of others. The = structure and style of what they like to play in these cases gives them their = individual style and recognizability, along with tone and phrasing.   If they were just randomly picking notes out of the air, this wouldn't be = the case.   How many improvisers actually fly by the seat of their pants...and how = many artfully apply their preconceived, though possibly not written down, = musical ideas to the material at hand.   And who are the great improvisers of today? I would recommend Merrill N. "Jeff" Davis to the list. Wasn't he the first American to win at the improvisation competition in Holland?     noel jones, aago athens, tennessee, usa ------------------------------- frog music press rodgers organ users group www.frogmusic.com      
(back) Subject: RE: Notre Dame - Paris From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:56:40 -0400   Well, call him Molly. Or many Folly?   -----Original Message----- From: Storandt, Peter [mailto:pstorandt@okcu.edu] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 11:45 AM To: 'PipeChat' Subject: RE: Notre Dame - Paris     Perhaps crossing an organist with a sheep....   -----Original Message----- From: COLASACCO, ROBERT [mailto:RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 10:32 AM To: 'PipeChat' Subject: RE: Notre Dame - Paris     You know what, if it's repeated it ain't no improvisation! This is all too Frankensteinesque for me. Let's clone an organist. Robert Bernardino Colasacco   - =3D=3D=3DSure, but that's not the situation in Notre Dame. The organ = isn't playing hymns there and the tourists aren't singing. The organ, through the mechanical playback of an original performance, is playing improvisations and/or organ literature. At least that's what I thought was being = described in the earlier post.     Randy Runyon     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: cornopean From: "straight" <straight@infoblvd.net> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:53:16 -0400   The 1925 Moller up the road from me has one. Perfect description, "fairly nice smooth trumpet stop, not much edge".   Diane S.  
(back) Subject: Re: Notre Dame - Paris From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:48:14 EDT   Dear Randy:   When I tour and go to see churches with famous organs, I appreciate the effort to play them in real time by what ever method is available. I do prefer sequencer reproduction of the sound over a CD or tape. I also feel that the fear that the organist will lose his/her job to a=20 machine is plain silly. It's been tried with paper rolls, and =C6olian player consoles in the teens and twenties. Barrel organs with pins to play the mechanism before that. The paper tore, the hymns on the barrels were the same Sunday after Sunday. I think IMHO you=20 should have no fear of losing your job to a machine. The only way you are going to lose your job is by being disagreeable, playing in a church where rectors routinely fire organists, or being totally incompetant. A sequencer reproduction is for straight listening. Starting and stopping a sequence can be a real chore. One of the=20 great values of a sequencer, is for the organist in the absence of another is to be able to record pieces, play them back, walk around the church noting balance and registration and volume. In this case, it's an oportunity for an organist to hear what the congregation hears, and to make adjustments in playing style, registration, tempo. Now=20 this may hurt, but I wonder if most of the opposition to sequenced operations, is that some organists actually have to listen to their own efforts, and really don't like what they hear. Well practice more and you=20 will. To do anything well takes effort. Don't blame the machine, as it can never take your job from you. Only you can determine how long your job will last, not a machine. A REALITY CHECK!   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Notre Dame - Paris(agree with Randy) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:55:48 EDT   To the list:   I want to make it very clear that I'm in agreement with Randy 100%. My remarks were made to bring some sense out of the unreasonable fear of the sequencer.   Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: Notre Dame - Paris From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:02:36 -0500   But the point is that a sequencer IS a form of recording - the machine can't play the organ by itself. Basically, instead of having someone play the organ and make a CD of it and then play that back through speakers, they have to have someone play the organ and record it on the sequencer, so that the sequencer can play it back. The difference is that with the first you only hear a CD being piped through speakers - in the second, you actually hear the live pipes sounding.   Yes, it would be preferable to have a live human up there playing - but all day, every day, non-stop would be both expensive and exhausting. So, if they aren't going to have "live music" - I agree that a sequencer is preferable to a stereo - as long as it is only for background while tourists pass through, and not for actual services (which the original post stated) It would certainly be a great experience for people who go there when nothing is going on - they still get to hear the organ. Great organ advertising, actually. Most of those tourists have probably never heard a large, Gin-yu-wine pipe organ in a cathedral before - maybe they will go home to their churches and start a movement to upgrade their organ and/or acoustics.   Margo    
(back) Subject: Re: In memoriam From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:58:07 EDT   Robert:   That will get you fired. RON   So, anyone playing a tribute this Sunday? Huh? Maybe "Blue Suede Shoes" = at the Communion..."don't you--step on my blue suede shoes"? "You Ain't = nothin' but a Hound Dog"? Is that offertory material or meditative matter? = Anything? Having lived thru Elvis's showbiz life with him from his first appearance = on TV thru the end, I know nothing about him except that I never really cared either way about him or his music except the two songs I mentioned above. RBC    
(back) Subject: RE: In memoriam From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:04:18 -0400   Oh, I don't know. On CNN the other day some fan they interviewed visiting Grace land seemed to think Elvis is the second coming! She said, "God sent him to earth." That sounds familiar. RBC =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Robert:   That will get you fired. RON   So, anyone playing a tribute this Sunday? Huh? Maybe "Blue Suede Shoes" = at the Communion...  
(back) Subject: Re: Notre Dame - Paris From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:02:21 -0400   on 8/16/02 11:31 AM, COLASACCO, ROBERT at RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org wrote:   > You know what, if it's repeated it ain't no improvisation!   So, Robert, my CD of Fr=E9d=E9ric Blanc's glorious improvisations aren't improvisations?   Your logic escapes me.   By the way, how about sharing with us how much your Johannus cost and its stop list (sorry if you've already posted the stop list)?   Regards,   Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: In memoriam From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:04:58 -0400   on 8/16/02 11:47 AM, COLASACCO, ROBERT at RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org wrote:   > So, anyone playing a tribute this Sunday? Huh? Maybe "Blue Suede Shoes" = at > the Communion..."don't you--step on my blue suede shoes"? "You Ain't = nothin' > but a Hound Dog"? Is that offertory material or meditative matter? = Anything? > Having lived thru Elvis's showbiz life with him from his first = appearance on > TV thru the end, I know nothing about him except that I never really = cared > either way about him or his music except the two songs I mentioned = above. > RBC   An absolutely wonderful idea! We have communion this Sunday, and I'm = gonna do it. Of course it'll have to be so disguised no one will notice. Love = Me Tender sounds like the way some people write hymns nowadays anyway. It's the same as the folksong AuraLee, isn't it?     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: RE: In memoriam From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:08:29 -0500   Yes, Aura Lee it is.   -----Original Message----- From: Randolph Runyon [mailto:runyonr@muohio.edu] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 12:05 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: In memoriam     on 8/16/02 11:47 AM, COLASACCO, ROBERT at RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org wrote:   > So, anyone playing a tribute this Sunday? Huh? Maybe "Blue Suede Shoes" at > the Communion..."don't you--step on my blue suede shoes"? "You Ain't nothin' > but a Hound Dog"? Is that offertory material or meditative matter? Anything? > Having lived thru Elvis's showbiz life with him from his first = appearance on > TV thru the end, I know nothing about him except that I never really = cared > either way about him or his music except the two songs I mentioned = above. > RBC   An absolutely wonderful idea! We have communion this Sunday, and I'm = gonna do it. Of course it'll have to be so disguised no one will notice. Love = Me Tender sounds like the way some people write hymns nowadays anyway. It's the same as the folksong AuraLee, isn't it?     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu       "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Notre Dame - Paris From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:13:45 -0400   on 8/16/02 12:48 PM, RonSeverin@aol.com at RonSeverin@aol.com wrote:   > Dear Randy: > >... Don't blame the machine, as it can > never take your job from you. Only you can determine how long your job > will last, not a machine. A REALITY CHECK! > > Ron Severin   Ron, I agree with you totally. I wasn't the one who complained about sequencers. Nor did I voice any anxiety about losing my job to a machine. Rather, I posted a message in which I tried to draw a distinction between barrel-organs, etc. for hymn accompaniment and a sequencer playing repertoire or improvisations (not live, of course!) in Notre Dame, in = which I meant to convey my approval for the sequencer approach to the Notre Dame tourist experience. I'd much rather hear a sequencer repeating the real performance on the real organ of a real performer than hear a CD coming through loudspeakers. By the way, I've been to Notre Dame many times = (even played the organ for a few minutes with Jean-Pierre Leguay pulling the stops), but I've never heard the sequencer play the organ. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just that I missed it. I wish like anything I had a sequencer so that I could hear myself = play and improve, and also to see how the organ sounds away from the bench.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: Notre Dame - Paris(agree with Randy) From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:15:16 -0400   on 8/16/02 12:55 PM, RonSeverin@aol.com at RonSeverin@aol.com wrote:   > To the list: > > I want to make it very clear that I'm in agreement with Randy 100%. > My remarks were made to bring some sense out of the unreasonable > fear of the sequencer. > > Ron   Oops! I shoulda read this before I replied to the other one. Oh well. = At least we both know we are in agreement!     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: In memoriam From: "Paul Austin" <paulaustin1@btopenworld.com> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 18:24:12 +0100     The King did a very cherpy version of 'How great though art'. Maybe we should all add that to our hymn lists this Sunday?? Paul.       > Robert: > > That will get you fired. RON > > So, anyone playing a tribute this Sunday? Huh? Maybe "Blue Suede Shoes" at > the Communion..."don't you--step on my blue suede shoes"? "You Ain't nothin' > but a Hound Dog"? Is that offertory material or meditative matter? Anything? > Having lived thru Elvis's showbiz life with him from his first = appearance on > TV thru the end, I know nothing about him except that I never really = cared > either way about him or his music except the two songs I mentioned = above. > RBC > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: In memoriam From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:24:38 -0400   on 8/16/02 1:08 PM, Storandt, Peter at pstorandt@okcu.edu wrote:   > Yes, Aura Lee it is.   Thanks. It ought to be possible to play it in such a way that it would be undetected. The harmony on Voix celeste, the melody on a 4-foot pedal = stop, broken into pieces, with some Langlais-style riffs thrown in between fragments. After the children's sermon, I usually play some quiet = traveling music that is related to what the pastor just said in the sermon. Last Sunday, since he talked about Jesus walking on the water, it was "Row, Row Your Boat." Nobody said anything, but on prior occasions there is a young adult couple in the congregation who've told me how much they've enjoyed figuring out what it was I was playing at that point in the service. = During the build-up to Vacation Bible School a guy in a ringmaster's outfit came = in to announce the circus theme that VBS was going to have, so I piped him in with The Entrance of the Gladiators, as I think it's called. You know, = that descending chromatic circus march.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: In memoriam From: "straight" <straight@infoblvd.net> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:40:23 -0400   Elvis did a lot of hymns too! A whole record full at one point. You can buy it off the TV on CD now. He was Southern Baptist I think-----at least to start with.   Diane  
(back) Subject: Re: In memoriam(Perspective) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:39:14 EDT   Perspective:   Elvis was first and foremost a performer of rock and roll. Here was a greatly flawed icon if there ever was one. The media hype and the world will worship at his altar. Here was really a sad life indeed, drank too much, ate too much, took drugs, and unless he was on stage, was an isolate, and a hermit. He really died at his own hand, just like Janis Joplin and a whole host of others. To Deify such a person in church by playing his tunes next sunday, is very poor judgement. Elvis was a product, a packaged caricature of a man. Remember, His appetite for the world certainly out weighed any of his religious convictions. It eventually destroyed him. Money isn't everything. He was an absentee husband and father. He threw fits, and shot up his own house with a gun. This was not a happy soul by any stretch of the imagination. That was Elvis.   What does he have in common with the organ or church?   Ron Severin