PipeChat Digest #3069 - Sunday, August 18, 2002
 
Re: Announcing Hymns
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Announcing Hymns
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #3068 - 08/18/02
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com>
Re: Stoplist St Stephens Canterbury - was  Weddings, cyphers and strange 
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Wedding "Recessionals" for an Organist
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Prices for practice pipe organs
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Cornopeans...<sigh>
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Announcing Hymns
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Announcing Hymns
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Prices for practice pipe organs
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Announcing Hymns From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 15:51:00 -0400   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --B_3112530660_6733806 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   On 8/18/02 1:35 PM, "RVScara@aol.com" <RVScara@aol.com> wrote:   > I've played in RC churches for 54 years and at least since the > "revitalization" of the 1970s, the Organist, or a Cantor, announces the = h=3D ymn > number and title and in which book (hymnal or missalette) it can be = found=3D .. > Hymn Boards are used in some places but not everyone can discern the = numb=3D ers > if some distance, or poor lighting, is involved. We went to boards = (some=3D one > decided to donate them "In Memorium" and stopped announcing until we = got > complaints from older members, like me, who can't see the numbers from = th=3D e > back. I have played at a number of non-RC services where Service = Bulletin=3D s, > containing the hymn numbers, were handed out and no announcement was > necessary.=3D20   Lots of large churches in Europe and America have hymnboards up front. = And in a big church, they can be unreadable from farther west. But lots of = suc=3D h churches have another paid of hymnboards halfway back, or so=3D8Bor even a = thir=3D d set! Nuisance for the janitor, sacristan, or whoever, but, c=3DB9est la = vie!   I think that Roman Catholic liturgical theologians would agree unanimously that =3DB3announcing the hymn numbers, or page numbers for whatever=3DB2 = is a practice to be avoided. If possible.   As for bulletins, I recall reading, centuries ago, that a couple of = Luthera=3D n churches in Brooklyn were experimenting with producing bulletins with hymn numbers, etc.--and they were harshly condemned by other Lutherans, because such things were regarded as =3DB3popery.=3DB2 Talk about SILLY! As I = recall, tha=3D t was about 1905. =3D20   Speaking as a Lutheran, the main bulletin shock for us, on visiting a = Roman church, is that you have at least a full page of ADVERTISEMENTS in yours. Frankly, it looks tacky as the deuce. But, with an effort toward objectivity, why not? Obviously it cuts down on the overhead in producing those bulletins. And yet . . . even so . . . I just couldn=3DB9t do that. = Yes=3D , we could get Joe=3DB9s Body Shop to underwrite the cost of some of the organist=3DB9s salary, and announce in the bulletin, =3DB3Today=3DB9s = Prelude and Postlude are sponsored by Joe=3DB9s Body Shop. Please patronize our advertisers.=3DB2 I don=3DB9t know.   Across the board, who produces the finest bulletins? The Episcopalians, = of course. No competition.   Hope this doesn=3DB9t sound too catty. I=3DB9m good pals with Rome since = c. 1948; =3D I gave a little homily at a Roman mass just last Sunday! (In which I disagreed with a point in the celebrant=3DB9s homily=3D8Band he promptly = and publicly capitulated, agreeing with my point!)   Alan, just running his mouth             --B_3112530660_6733806 Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: Announcing Hymns</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">On 8/18/02 1:35 PM, = &quot;RVScara@aol.com&quot=3D ; &lt;RVScara@aol.com&gt; wrote:<BR> <BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial Black">I've played in RC churches = for =3D 54 years and at least since the &quot;revitalization&quot; of the 1970s, = the=3D Organist, or a Cantor, announces the hymn number and title and in which = boo=3D k (hymnal or missalette) it can be found. &nbsp;Hymn Boards are used in = some=3D places but not everyone can discern the numbers if some distance, or poor = l=3D ighting, is involved. &nbsp;We went to boards (someone decided to donate = the=3D m &quot;In Memorium&quot; &nbsp;and stopped announcing until we got = complain=3D ts from older members, like me, who can't see the numbers from the back. I = h=3D ave played at a number of non-RC services where Service Bulletins, = containin=3D g the hymn numbers, were handed out and no announcement was = necessary.</FONT=3D ><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman"> <BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman"><BR> Lots of large churches in Europe and America have hymnboards up front. = &nbs=3D p;And in a big church, they can be unreadable from farther west. &nbsp;But = l=3D ots of such churches have another paid of hymnboards halfway back, or = so&#82=3D 12;or even a third set! &nbsp;Nuisance for the janitor, sacristan, or = whoeve=3D r, but, c&#8217;est la vie! &nbsp;<BR> <BR> I think that Roman Catholic liturgical theologians would agree unanimously = =3D that &#8220;announcing the hymn numbers, or page numbers for = whatever&#8221;=3D is a practice to be avoided. &nbsp;If possible.<BR> <BR> As for bulletins, I recall reading, centuries ago, that a couple of = Luthera=3D n churches in Brooklyn were experimenting with producing bulletins with = hymn=3D numbers, etc.--and they were harshly condemned by other Lutherans, = because =3D such things were regarded as &#8220;popery.&#8221; &nbsp;Talk about SILLY! = &=3D nbsp;As I recall, that was about 1905. &nbsp;<BR> <BR> Speaking as a Lutheran, the main bulletin shock for us, on visiting a = Roman=3D church, is that you have at least a full page of ADVERTISEMENTS in yours. = &=3D nbsp;Frankly, it looks tacky as the deuce. &nbsp;But, with an effort = toward =3D objectivity, why not? &nbsp;Obviously it cuts down on the overhead in = produc=3D ing those bulletins. &nbsp;And yet . . . even so . . . I just = couldn&#8217;t=3D do that. &nbsp;Yes, we could get Joe&#8217;s Body Shop to underwrite the = co=3D st of some of the organist&#8217;s salary, and announce in the bulletin, = &#8=3D 220;Today&#8217;s Prelude and Postlude are sponsored by Joe&#8217;s Body = Sho=3D p. &nbsp;Please patronize our advertisers.&#8221; &nbsp;I don&#8217;t = know. =3D &nbsp;<BR> <BR> Across the board, who produces the finest bulletins? &nbsp;The = Episcopalian=3D s, of course. &nbsp;No competition.<BR> <BR> Hope this doesn&#8217;t sound too catty. &nbsp;I&#8217;m good pals with = Rom=3D e since c. 1948; I gave a little homily at a Roman mass just last Sunday! = &n=3D bsp;(In which I disagreed with a point in the celebrant&#8217;s = homily&#8212=3D ;and he promptly and publicly capitulated, agreeing with my point!)<BR> <BR> Alan, just running his mouth<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT> </BODY> </HTML>     --B_3112530660_6733806--    
(back) Subject: Re: Announcing Hymns From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 15:57:51 -0400   On 8/18/02 1:13 PM, "Stan Yoder" <vze2myh5@verizon.net> wrote:   > Generally, liturgical churches   Isn't it funny that "liturgical churches" used to mean RC, Lutheran, Anglican, and MAYBE a few more. But nowadays, if you want to be a = spectator at a "protestant Sunday programme," your local RC parish is as good a bet = as any! (With--praise the Lord--some superb exceptions, of course!)   Alan   > do not verbally announce hymns, or anything else for that matter, > "Let us spray" excepted.   Oh, and my favorite (heard this morning from a guest presider): "Let us = now confess our faith, using the words of the Nicene Creed, on page 84 in the front part of the hymnal" Gagghgg.   > Of course, reading aloud the parish announcements in the bulletin is = another matter! > > Stan Yoder > Pittsburgh >    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #3068 - 08/18/02 From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 20:02:13 +0000   One of the best arrangements I have come across was in Bielefeld in = Germany where I played for the morning service some years ago (Evangelical.) The organ was in the west gallery and there was an illuminated hymn board at = the front. I had an order of service with the hymns included. I just dialled = up the next number after finishing the hymn, which then appeared on the = board, and the Pastor nodded in my direction when it was time to play the next = hymn over. A piece of cake! John Foss http://www.geocities.com/harfo32/JohnFossathome.html   _________________________________________________________________ Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Stoplist St Stephens Canterbury - was Weddings, cyphers and strange stop... From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:03:01 EDT     --part1_98.2aa00cde.2a915775_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Looks like a nice little organ. I think it would be fun to play, = especially if the room is old and facade is pretty.   In a message dated 8/18/02 9:08:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, steve@ststephenscanterbury.freeserve.co.uk writes:     > > Pedal 1 Bourdon 16 = (1-5 > all one rank) > 2 Quint 10 2/3 > 3 Flute Bass 8 > 4 Octave Quint 5 1/3 > 5 Octave Flute 4 > > Great 6 Open Diapason 8 > 7 Lieblich Gedact 8 > 8 Dulciana 8 > 9 Principal 4 > 10 Wald Flute 4 > 11 Mixture II > > Swell 12 Geigen Principal 8 (12&13 > shared bottom octave) > 13 Stopped Diapason 8 > 14 Salicional 8 > 15 Gemshorn 4 > 16 Twelfth 2 2/3 > 17 Fifteenth 2 > 18 Oboe 8 >       Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_98.2aa00cde.2a915775_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Looks like a nice = little organ. &nbsp;&nbsp;I think it would be fun to play, especially if = the room is old and facade is pretty. <BR> <BR>In a message dated 8/18/02 9:08:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, = steve@ststephenscanterbury.freeserve.co.uk writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> <BR>Pedal = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bourdon = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;16 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;(1-5 <BR>all one rank) <BR> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Quint = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;10 2/3 <BR> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Flute Bass &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8 <BR> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Octave Quint &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5 1/3 <BR> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Octave Flute &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4 <BR> <BR>Great = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;6 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Open Diapason &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8 <BR> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;7 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Lieblich Gedact &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8 <BR> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Dulciana = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8 <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp= ;&nbsp;&nbsp;9 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Principal = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;4 <BR> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Wald Flute = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4 <BR> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;11 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Mixture = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;II <BR> <BR>Swell = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;12 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Geigen Principal &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(12&amp;13 <BR>shared bottom octave) <BR> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;13 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Stopped Diapason &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8 <BR> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;14 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Salicional = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8 <BR> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;15 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Gemshorn = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4 <BR> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;16 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Twelfth = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2 2/3 <BR> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;17 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Fifteenth = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2 <BR> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;18 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Oboe = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8 <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_98.2aa00cde.2a915775_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding "Recessionals" for an Organist From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:07:50 EDT     --part1_14f.12a2bee9.2a915896_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   In a message dated 8/18/02 9:27:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,=3D20 gksjd85@direcway.com writes:     > has anyone ever played the Bach Prelude from the P&F in E flat major = (=3DE2=3D =3D80=3D9CSt.=3D20 > Anne=3DE2=3D80=3D9D), or parts of it, for processional or recessional? = =3D20   I've done it, and have made an abbreviated version of the P&F, ending = the=3D20 prelude after the first section, and then playing just the opening = fugue=3D20 section. It works really well and takes only about 3 minutes.   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_14f.12a2bee9.2a915896_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>In a message dated = 8/18/0=3D 2 9:27:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gksjd85@direcway.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#0000ff" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px so=3D lid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">has anyone = ever=3D played the Bach Prelude from the P&amp;F in E flat major = (=3DE2=3D80=3D9CSt. Anne=3D =3DE2=3D80=3D9D), or parts of it, for processional or recessional? = &nbsp;</FONT><F=3D ONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"=3D 0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR>I've done it, and have made an abbreviated version of the P&amp;F, = endin=3D g the prelude after the first section, and then playing just the opening = fug=3D ue section. &nbsp;It works really well and takes only about 3 minutes. <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Bruco=3D n502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com=3D /BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_14f.12a2bee9.2a915896_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Prices for practice pipe organs From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:10:23 EDT     --part1_23.22bf91f5.2a91592f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   In a message dated 8/18/02 9:30:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,=3D20 gksjd85@direcway.com writes:     > Bruce, you are an inspiration to me.=3D20 > Mike says you are coming to Atlanta in November =3DE2=3D80=3D93 if so, I = hope to=3D see you=3D20 > there.   Hopefully you'll be able to get to some of the First Presby Fiskabration = in=3D20 September, although i don't have the dates yet. =3D20   I'm glad my dribblings have helped! ;-)   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_23.22bf91f5.2a91592f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>In a message dated = 8/18/0=3D 2 9:30:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gksjd85@direcway.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#0000ff" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px so=3D lid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Bruce, you = are=3D20=3D an inspiration to me. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SAN=3D SSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#0000ff" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0">Mike says you are coming to Atlanta in November = =3DE2=3D80=3D93 if=3D so, I hope to see you there.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D =3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Hopefully you'll be able to get to some of the First Presby = Fiskabration=3D in September, although i don't have the dates yet. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>I'm glad my dribblings have helped! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Bruco=3D n502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com=3D /BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_23.22bf91f5.2a91592f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Cornopeans...<sigh> From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:16:36 EDT     --part1_181.ce96bee.2a915aa4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/18/02 9:37:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jonberts@magiccablepc.com writes:     > Bruce: you've never heard our "french" type reeds....and the > reed I mentioned was "trompete"...not "trompette".   True, but if your french reeds work well in a dead american building, are they still french reeds??? If a tree falls in the woods.... etc     Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_181.ce96bee.2a915aa4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/18/02 9:37:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jonberts@magiccablepc.com = writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Bruce: = &nbsp;you've never heard our "french" type reeds....and the <BR>reed I mentioned was "trompete"...not "trompette". &nbsp;</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" = LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>True, but if your french reeds work well in a dead american building, = are they still french reeds??? &nbsp;&nbsp;If a tree falls in the = woods.... etc &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_181.ce96bee.2a915aa4_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Announcing Hymns From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:23:12 EDT     --part1_69.2bd62972.2a915c30_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/18/02 1:00:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, paulaustin1@btopenworld.com writes:     > Is it common practice not to announce hymns?? I have never come across = this > before. It must be very confusing for visitors It certainly was for = me!   My experience has been (in Episcopal and some Presbyterian and Methodist churches) that hymns are not announced. This is, however, changing since =   almost everything is announced these days, including prayers, readings, offering, etc.   If there is an order of worship and the hymns are listed in the order of service, I see no reason to announce them. This makes the service flow = more freely. The more informal order of service for evangelical denominations =   fits the practice of announcing hymns.     Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_69.2bd62972.2a915c30_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/18/02 1:00:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, paulaustin1@btopenworld.com = writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Is it common = practice not to announce hymns?? &nbsp;I have never come across this = before. &nbsp;It must be very confusing for visitors &nbsp;It certainly = was for me! &nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>My experience has been (in Episcopal and some Presbyterian and = Methodist churches) that hymns are not announced. &nbsp;&nbsp;This is, = however, changing since almost everything is announced these days, = including prayers, readings, offering, etc. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>If there is an order of worship and the hymns are listed in the order = of service, I see no reason to announce them. &nbsp;&nbsp;This makes the = service flow more freely. &nbsp;&nbsp;The more informal order of service = for evangelical denominations fits the practice of announcing hymns. = &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_69.2bd62972.2a915c30_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Announcing Hymns From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:25:48 EDT     --part1_a8.103ef26f.2a915ccc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/18/02 1:36:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = RVScara@aol.com writes:     > since the "revitalization" of the 1970s, the Organist, or a Cantor, > announces the hymn number and title and in which book (hymnal or > missalette) it can be found.   I remember when this first started and the missalettes had a couple of = center sections with colored pages. The hymn announcements were like bingo = calls:   Please stand and sing 43-Red! At least that's improved.   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_a8.103ef26f.2a915ccc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 8/18/02 1:36:15 PM Eastern = Daylight Time, RVScara@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial Black" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE = style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">since the "revitalization" of the 1970s, the = Organist, or a Cantor, announces the hymn number and title and in which = book (hymnal or missalette) it can be found. </FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial Black" = LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I remember when this first started and the missalettes had a couple of = center sections with colored pages. &nbsp;&nbsp;The hymn announcements = were like bingo calls: <BR> <BR>Please stand and sing 43-Red! &nbsp;&nbsp;At least that's improved. <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a8.103ef26f.2a915ccc_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Prices for practice pipe organs From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:28:20 EDT     --part1_38.2ca88c6c.2a915d64_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/18/02 1:58:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, teahzg@charter.net writes:     > Many pipe organ builders > are now augmenting real organs with "digital ranks" quite successfully = for > their clients.   I SUPPOSE, if I felt I HAD to have bunches o' stops, that I would at least =   invest in a couple of ranks of Principal pipes so I could at least hear = real organ.   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_38.2ca88c6c.2a915d64_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/18/02 1:58:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, teahzg@charter.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Many pipe organ = builders <BR>are now augmenting real organs with "digital ranks" quite successfully = for <BR>their clients. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I SUPPOSE, if I felt I HAD to have bunches o' stops, that I would at = least invest in a couple of ranks of Principal pipes so I could at least = hear real organ. <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_38.2ca88c6c.2a915d64_boundary--