PipeChat Digest #3078 - Tuesday, August 20, 2002
 
Re: Announcing hymns.
  by "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk>
Sheet Music Site
  by "David Carter" <davidorganist2002@yahoo.com>
Wrong Word
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Creative Hymn Intros and Knowing When to Start Singing
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
RE: Wrong Word
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
RE: Busch Reisinger Flentrop
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
Vassar & Fritts
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
RE: Today's prelude...
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Oliphant Chuckerbutty
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: Wrong Word
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Wrong Word
  by "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net>
Re: Announcing Hymns
  by "straight" <straight@infoblvd.net>
Re: Vassar & Fritts
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
W. OLIPHANT CHUCKERBUTTY
  by "Douglas Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com>
Re: Ballroom organ at Buckingham Palace
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Today's prelude...
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Announcing Hymns(semi-long)
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Definitely NOT electronic organs!
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Definitely NOT electronic organs!
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: website update:  somewhat off topic
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Announcing hymns. From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:58:33 +0100   It's interesting to hear different experiences - in 7 years of playing for services in what must be over 60 different churches, I've never yet played for a service where the hymns weren't announced!   Best wishes   Andy Caskie Lake District, UK   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 6:38 PM Subject: RE: Announcing hymns.     > >In most churches announcment is redundant...if it's already in the bulletin > it's just taking up time, usually by someone that > enjoys listening to themself. > > My childhood rector (who lived his entire life as though driven by > clockwork) would invariably say "Let-us-all-join-in-singing the > sermon [offertory, or recessional] hymn, which is hymn number..." Another, > when announcing places, would always emphasize either the *blue* hymnal = or > the *red* prayer book, presumably for the benefit of visitors who = weren't > used to handling more than one book in a service. He would say this = even > during a weekday mass attended only by half-a-dozen faithful who might have > the prayer-book half memorized. It is difficult to make such announcements > regularly without becoming either perfunctory or condescending. > I find that song leaders succeed in this at least as often as clergy do, but > I find their whole presence obnoxious and redolent of a three-ring = circus. > > This is another argument, I think, for hymn boards (especially if they > display only the changing hymns in a single column, as most of them were > designed to do, rather than overloading them with a bewildering jumble = of > alphabetical prefixes and suffixes for relatively stable service music). > The problem with needing to read hymn numbers in the bulletin is fishing for > the bulletin four or five times. > Where is it? In the prayer book? In they hymnal? In the book rack? = To my > right? To my left? Yeah, I know, the liturgy is the people's work... but > in some places we are witnessing the recrudescence of a problem that Cranmer > complained about in the pre-reformation sixteenth century: it is more > trouble finding what words to say than to say them once they are found. > > Wasn't it here that I read of the recent rebound of Garrison Keillor = from > the Episcopal back to the Lutheran fold? His explanation was simply "to be > an Episcopalian you must be an octopus--" although nowadays Lutheranism > might provide little respite. If a few simple, traditional, low-tech, > environmentally benign hymn boards can relieve this situation to some > degree, they are well worthwhile. > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Sheet Music Site From: "David Carter" <davidorganist2002@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:01:54 -0700 (PDT)   Dear Listers - I'd never heard of the following site, and have not seen it posted on = Pipechat, so I thought I would share. If you browse by instrument, there is a modest selection of = organ works.   Site: http://www.mutopiaproject.org/   David Carter In Sacramento, CA, where the legislature has still not passed the state = budget.   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com  
(back) Subject: Wrong Word From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 13:20:59 -0500   President Carter gave a famous speech in Poland where he meant to say something like "I desire the Poles to have freedom," but the translator chose the wrong word, and it came out something like, "I lust after the Poles."   And there was the clergy man who meant to refer to sin in his prayer by saying, "Forgive us our fallingS short," but instead it came out, "Forgive us our falling shortS."   Dennis Steckley *********************** Dennis- Thanks for the correction. You know, as I was typing that, I knew it didn't look right, but I couldn't figure out what was wrong. Duh.....I guess I was having a blond moment. lol   Monty Bennett      
(back) Subject: Creative Hymn Intros and Knowing When to Start Singing From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 14:37:52 EDT     --part1_b4.105affa0.2a93e680_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   >This sounds like an excellent idea, one that I haven't given enough >attention to all these years. It isn't that I have never done so. But >admittedly my experience has been mixed. The congregation must know when = to >begin singing, and at what tempo. It is very disconcerting to play a >beautiful "creative" introduction, then begin playing the hymn with the >intention that people will begin singing, and they don't. How do you >prevent this embarrassment, and what do you do if your preventative = measures >fail?   Since I got this thread started, I'll explain what I do and how I do it.......   What I have found to work well is that at the end of a big intro, I always =   end with either the last couple of measures of the hymn, or a cadence of a =   phrase of a hymn, putting a big fermata on it, so the final chord is held. = It also works well to end on the V chord--the musical tension that is built = up alerts the congregation that something is going to happen, namely that = they are needed to sing the 1st verse of the hymn. I think that it is usually pretty clear to the congregation when it's time =   for them to sing....creative intros give them time to rustle their = bulletins, get a tissue out of their pocketbook, flip to the correct page in the = hymnal, tell their children to stop fidgiting, etc. By the time the organist has played the intro, the congregation is ready to sing.   Monty Bennett   --part1_b4.105affa0.2a93e680_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0">&gt;This sounds like an excellent idea, one that = I haven't given enough<BR> &gt;attention to all these years.&nbsp; It isn't that I have never done = so. But<BR> &gt;admittedly my experience has been mixed.&nbsp; The congregation must = know when to<BR> &gt;begin singing, and at what tempo.&nbsp; It is very disconcerting to = play a<BR> &gt;beautiful "creative" introduction, then begin playing the hymn with = the<BR> &gt;intention that people will begin singing, and they don't.&nbsp; How do = you<BR> &gt;prevent this embarrassment, and what do you do if your preventative = measures<BR> &gt;fail?&nbsp; <BR> <BR> Since I got this thread started, I'll explain what I do and how I do = it.......<BR> <BR> What I have found to work well is that at the end of a big intro, I always = end with either the last couple of measures of the hymn, or a cadence of a = phrase of a hymn, putting a big fermata on it, so the final chord is held. = It also works well to end on the V chord--the musical tension that is = built up alerts the congregation that something is going to happen, namely = that they are needed to sing the 1st verse of the hymn.<BR> I think that it is usually pretty clear to the congregation when it's time = for them to sing....creative intros give them time to rustle their = bulletins, get a tissue out of their pocketbook, flip to the correct page = in the hymnal, tell their children to stop fidgiting, <BR> etc.&nbsp; By the time the organist has played the intro, the congregation = is ready to sing.<BR> <BR> Monty Bennett<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_b4.105affa0.2a93e680_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: Wrong Word From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 14:52:54 -0400   Two mispronunciations drive me batty:   1) All clergy, readers, and choir members should be clear that the word "err" is all rrr. If everyone in your congregation works in the mass = media, then no doubt it would make sense to confess "we have aired and strayed = like lost sheep"-- but not otherwise.   2) The pronunciation of "aye" depends on the meaning. It sounds like = "eye" if it means "yes," but usually in religious texts it means "forever", and then it should be pronounced as a long A.      
(back) Subject: RE: Busch Reisinger Flentrop From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 20:12:22 +0100   Hello,   The Busch Reisinger is one of the few organs I have heard in the USA = live, but I think it is an absolute gem.   In its restrained perfection, it is probably the equal of anything in = Europe.   I still treasure the Biggs recordings played on this instrument.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK        
(back) Subject: Vassar & Fritts From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 15:14:14 -0700   Hi People,   Just walked over to the recital hall on campus here and saw the organ for the first time. Actually, mostly the facade, as it doesn't have much more than the Principal in it yet.   Heard a little bit of it..very impressive. I was wondering how it would work in the hall as at first glance it seemed not conducive to a baroque style instrument. But obviously it has been mastered as Paul was very complimentary of the designer who redid the space to accommodate the organ.   The instrument has a very "open " sound accomplished by the placement of the pipes which adds a purposeful "stereo effect" from within a rank. This proves that indeed you can get a full sound in a challenging space. I'm sure the people from Fritts have more technical terminology for such effects but I was impressed.   As height is somewhat limited I wondered how the Principal(I believe) in the facade towers went down to 16 ft. Well, they don't! Only to F and then to wooden opens cleverly painted to match the wall decor outside the case.   Can't wait to hear the finished product!   John V  
(back) Subject: RE: Today's prelude... From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 15:12:31 -0500   I think it was one of those baby blue 1953 Clippers....   -----Original Message----- From: jon bertschinger [mailto:jonberts@magiccablepc.com] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:08 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Today's prelude...     Were you driving a Packard then Glenda? gee...I have a good friend that might be intersted in traveling with you <G>   Jon.   too keep things on topic...we (and I mean the town of st joe) is celebrating their "trails west" event. So we did "old" hymns throughout the service. "Shall We Gather", "Little Church in the Wildwood" (my best friend in HS was married there <G>), "Old, Old Path", etc. Most of the service was on the piano, as I think half the congregation was at trails west <G>. they have beer and wine tents....   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Oliphant Chuckerbutty From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 09:48:14 -0400   David, et al,   Oliphant Chuckerbutty was the organist at a church in Paddington, London, during the 1930's. Which church, I am not certain of, but I think that it =   might have been All Saint's Church very close to Paddington Station.   At that time I was a choirboy at St. Matthews, Marylebone, - just down the =   road, and we often met up with Mr. Chuckerbutty and his choir at Choir festivals.   The thing that I DO remember is that his choirboys always called him "Chuckles"!   Bob Conway     At 09:32 AM 8/20/02 -0400, you wrote: >Oliphant Chuckerbutty????? Kindly enlighten me about this person. > -- >David G. Baker > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Re: Wrong Word From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 16:42:33 -0400   on 8/20/02 2:52 PM, Emmons, Paul at pemmons@wcupa.edu wrote:   > Two mispronunciations drive me batty: > > 1) All clergy, readers, and choir members should be clear that the word > "err" is all rrr.       So there's no vowel in it?     Confusedly,   Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: Wrong Word From: "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 16:55:22 -0400   Regarding "err". The Dean of Christ Church Cathedral Cincinnati (Episcopal) pronounces it "ur". Which sounds like "rrr", I guess. Or "er". But it sounds strange to me, because of the way you pronounce error I always thought "err" was pronounced "air".   Chuck Peery Cincinnati On Tuesday, August 20, 2002, at 04:42 PM, Randolph Runyon wrote:   > on 8/20/02 2:52 PM, Emmons, Paul at pemmons@wcupa.edu wrote: > >> Two mispronunciations drive me batty: >> >> 1) All clergy, readers, and choir members should be clear that the word >> "err" is all rrr. > > > > So there's no vowel in it? > > > Confusedly, > > Randy Runyon > Music Director > Zion Lutheran Church > Hamilton, Ohio > runyonr@muohio.edu > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Announcing Hymns From: "straight" <straight@infoblvd.net> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:23:15 -0400   From a different point of view -----having played mostly in one church with a large number of guest pastors over the years, I always try to catch them before the service and just ask whether they prefer to announce the hymns or not. Kind of hate to start playing at the same time the guy starts talking, you know? I don't really care whether they announce them or not, just so I know what to expect, so I know what to do next and it goes along smoothly.   Diane S.---a LOT of messages behind  
(back) Subject: Re: Vassar & Fritts From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:11:26 EDT   Dear Joe:   If this organ sounds like St. Alphonsus or Pacific Lutheran University, Tacoma I'm indeed jealous. These were very exciting instruments to listen to. If a person was in love with the Baroque organ, you could listen to either one all day and not get tired of the sound. Even if you weren't, you'd become a convert. Here's my written comment during James David Christie's recital Wednesday, July 5, 2000 at St. Alphonsus. Great voicing and sound, used Kirnberger III, Bold but tender. Lagerquist Hall, PLU, Tacoma, Bruce Neswick, Tuesday, July 4, 2000. One hell of an organ! Also same comment about St. James Cathedral, Seattle.   I can honestly tell you, I don't give out compliments ligthtly, nor do I get effusive over nothing, but these instruments moved me to the very depths of my soul. Vassar made a very wise choice. There are many others out there doing quality work. I'll comment on them when their turn comes around. All I can say is, there is true hope for the continuation of fine pipe organs well into the twenty-first century.   I'm looking foreward also to the new Pasi organ going into Heather's Cathedral in Nebraska.   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: W. OLIPHANT CHUCKERBUTTY From: "Douglas Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 15:17:33 -0700 (PDT)   Here is a story that everyone might enjoy:   In the 1950s or '60s, Roy Perry made his first trip to Europe. While in London in a music store, he came upon the conpositions of one W. Oliphant Chuckerbutty, which he said were comparable to the compositions of Rowland Diggle.   He bought the complete works, brought them home, and threatened to give a recital of the complete works of W. Oliphant Chuckerbutty. However, he never did.   There is one nice piece entitled "Paen" recorded by James Culp on the organ at First Presbyterian Church in Kilgore, Texas where Roy Perry was for many years. It is on the Pickwick label in The Orchid Series. The CD is ORCD 11019. That is the only recording I know of which includes a composition of Chuckerbutty.   D. Keith Morgan   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Ballroom organ at Buckingham Palace From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:31:06 EDT     --part1_34.2c16ee46.2a941d2a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Thanks, Colin. That's a very interesting stoplist. I do hope there is = more history and information forthcoming. I'd love to know what it sounds = like. Too bad none of the "kids" learned to play the organ!!     Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_34.2c16ee46.2a941d2a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks, Colin. = &nbsp;That's a very interesting stoplist. &nbsp;I do hope there is more = history and information forthcoming. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I'd love to know = what it sounds like. &nbsp;&nbsp;Too bad none of the "kids" learned to = play the organ!! <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_34.2c16ee46.2a941d2a_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Today's prelude... From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:31:10 EDT     --part1_195.bc0ea36.2a941d2e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/19/02 7:46:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gksjd85@direcway.com writes:     > Bruce is correct about the inventor of air conditioning.   Thanks, Glenda. Being right is always more fun when someone else points = it out!! heeheehee   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_195.bc0ea36.2a941d2e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/19/02 7:46:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gksjd85@direcway.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px">Bruce is correct about the inventor of air conditioning. = &nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Thanks, Glenda. &nbsp;Being right is always more fun when someone else = points it out!! &nbsp;heeheehee <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_195.bc0ea36.2a941d2e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Announcing Hymns(semi-long) From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:31:09 EDT     --part1_181.d0a1714.2a941d2d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/19/02 7:39:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, = Icedad@aol.com writes:     > ) > We announce the hymns or should I say "invite" the assembly to = join > us in song as a need as well as a courtesy.   I would think that, especially in RC congregations that might not be as familiar with hymnody, that a brief introduction to the hymn, much as is often done with readings, relating its text to the worship and daily experience would help people to have a greater appreciation of the hymn = and possibly pay closer attention to the text. I have heard this done very = well on several occasions without being either lengthy or intrusive.   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_181.d0a1714.2a941d2d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/19/02 7:39:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Icedad@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px">) <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We announce the hymns or should I = say "invite" the assembly to join us in song as a <B>need</B> as well as a = <B>courtesy.</B> </BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I would think that, especially in RC congregations that might not be = as familiar with hymnody, that a brief introduction to the hymn, much as = is often done with readings, relating its text to the worship and daily = experience would help people to have a greater appreciation of the hymn = and possibly pay closer attention to the text. &nbsp;I have heard this = done very well on several occasions without being either lengthy or = intrusive. <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_181.d0a1714.2a941d2d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Definitely NOT electronic organs! From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:31:07 EDT     --part1_d0.2bc4fd2a.2a941d2b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/19/02 6:43:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk writes:     > However, the fact that some noted organ builders have resorted to firing =   > cannon in large churches and using pink/white noise and "expert" >   I would think, especially with some of the building that are being put up now, firing a cannon (or canon!!) down the nave would be very beneficial, especially if it's loaded!   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_d0.2bc4fd2a.2a941d2b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/19/02 6:43:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk = writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">However, the fact = that some noted organ builders have resorted to firing cannon in large = churches and using pink/white noise and "expert" acousticians suggests to = me that they, at best, had self-doubts.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>I would think, especially with some of the building that are being put = up now, firing a cannon (or canon!!) down the nave would be very = beneficial, especially if it's loaded! <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_d0.2bc4fd2a.2a941d2b_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Definitely NOT electronic organs! From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:31:25 EDT     --part1_156.12c17567.2a941d3d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/19/02 6:33:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gdeboer@bluemarble.net writes:     > but my bottom line is basically, if we can not build and > install correctly our so much cherished pipe organs, why bother at all ? >   Except that fake organs are seldom built or installed correctly.     Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_156.12c17567.2a941d3d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/19/02 6:33:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gdeboer@bluemarble.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">but my bottom line = is basically, if we can not build and <BR>install correctly our so much cherished pipe organs, why bother at all = ? <BR>A fake (digital) would in that case be the better choice.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Except that fake organs are seldom built or installed correctly. <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_156.12c17567.2a941d3d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: website update: somewhat off topic From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:31:27 EDT     --part1_61.248a7ef9.2a941d3f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/19/02 8:04:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jonathan@jonathanbhall.com writes:     > In strictly organic content, the penultimate of my summer recitals will > take place on Thursday, if I live long enough: it will be all Bach, > and all chorale preludes.   I'll be there.... with picket signs!!! ;-) heeeheeeheee   But thanks for the great pictures of the neighborhood.   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_61.248a7ef9.2a941d3f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/19/02 8:04:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jonathan@jonathanbhall.com = writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">In strictly = organic content, the penultimate of my summer recitals will <BR>take place on Thursday, if I live long enough: &nbsp;it will be all = Bach, <BR>and all chorale preludes. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I'll be there.... with picket signs!!! &nbsp;;-) = &nbsp;&nbsp;heeeheeeheee <BR> <BR>But thanks for the great pictures of the neighborhood. &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_61.248a7ef9.2a941d3f_boundary--