PipeChat Digest #3093 - Tuesday, August 27, 2002
 
Re: Strange requests & a question
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com>
IRC Reminder
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: IRC Reminder
  by "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com>
Re: Seeking status info on Gainesville installation
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: music in society/education/ was strange requests.
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
RE: music in society/education/ was strange requests.
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
RE: Strange requests
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Strange requests & a question From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 19:27:14 -0400   Well Ron, Organ music in a high school ain't what we educated ears want to hear. Newtown H.S. in Elmhurst had a P.A. mic on a stool feeding the three manual Moller sound through those tinny loudspekers.   The pedals -- HELLO!   I was on the stage crew and luxurated hearing that Moller sans P.A. roaring at the back of the stage.   ...during a study class in Dillingham Hall the organ tuners used languaage creatively...   Alas! Our collective homework remains undone, even to this day.   Stan   RonSeverin@aol.com wrote: > > Dear Stan: > > If mediocre is all the school system can muster in NY and CA > why send them any money at all. 25 years ago both states were top > achievers. Not anymore. The over ridding question is Why not? > See my previous post. > > Ron > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: IRC Reminder From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 18:34:30 -0500   Since there seemed to be some confusion last week about the PipeChat IRC sessions I thought maybe i should post a reminder that we are on tonight beginning at 9 PM EASTERN time as we are every MONDAY and FRIDAY night.   Instructions for making a connection to the live chat is available at http://www.pipechat.org/irc.html   Hope to see some of you there   David  
(back) Subject: Re: IRC Reminder From: "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 20:16:01 -0500   ok...it's after 9pm eastern time..and i cant' find anyone in pipe chat!   jon bertschinger  
(back) Subject: Re: Seeking status info on Gainesville installation From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 22:24:54 EDT     --part1_ac.2c77f252.2a9c3cf6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   Glenda asked about the "state of the First Fisk" in Gainesville. As far = as=3D =3D20 I know it is finished. I haven't been by recently to look for the = Fisk=3D20 tools on the porch, but my understanding was that they were going to = be=3D20 finished by August. The organ concerts are listed below.   The full schedule of Concert events at First Presbyterian - Gainesville FL = i=3D s=3D20 available at http://1stpc.org/music/concertseries/   Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 4:00 p.m. and=3D20 Monday, September 30, 2002 at 7:30 p.m.=3D20 Inaugural Organ Concerts, David Craighead, organ Music of Dupr=3DC3=3DA9, Bach, Bolcolm and Vierne =3D20   Sunday, January 12, 2003 at 3:30 p.m. Marilyn Keiser, organ Music of Handel, Bach, Locklair and Sowerby=3D20   Sunday, March 30, 2003 at 4:00 p.m. David Higgs, organ Music of Buxtehude, Bach, and Liszt=3D20   Sunday, May 4, 2003 at 11:00 a.m. Maurice = Durufl=3DC3=3DA9=3DE2=3D80=3D99s Requiem First Presbyterian Church Chancel Choir Miriam Zach, organ; Mark Coffey, conductor =3D20   Concerts have been free but they often issue tickets for crowd control. = Th=3D e=3D20 church can be contacted via the webpage http://1stpc.org/     Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_ac.2c77f252.2a9c3cf6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>Glenda asked about = the "s=3D tate of the First Fisk" in Gainesville. &nbsp;&nbsp;As far as I know it is = f=3D inished. &nbsp;&nbsp;I haven't been by recently to look for the Fisk tools = o=3D n the porch, but my understanding was that they were going to be finished = by=3D August. &nbsp;&nbsp;The organ concerts are listed below. <BR> <BR>The full schedule of Concert events at First Presbyterian - = Gainesville=3D20=3D FL is available at &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;http://1stpc.org/music/concertseries/ <BR> <BR>Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 4:00 p.m. and=3D20 <BR>Monday, September 30, 2002 at 7:30 p.m.=3D20 <BR>Inaugural Organ Concerts, David Craighead, organ <BR>Music of Dupr=3DC3=3DA9, Bach, Bolcolm and Vierne =3D20 <BR> <BR>Sunday, January 12, 2003 at 3:30 p.m. Marilyn Keiser, organ <BR>Music of Handel, Bach, Locklair and Sowerby=3D20 <BR> <BR>Sunday, March 30, 2003 at 4:00 p.m. David Higgs, organ <BR>Music of Buxtehude, Bach, and Liszt=3D20 <BR> <BR>Sunday, May 4, 2003 at 11:00 a.m. Maurice = Durufl=3DC3=3DA9=3DE2=3D80=3D99s Requi=3D em <BR>First Presbyterian Church Chancel Choir <BR>Miriam Zach, organ; Mark Coffey, conductor =3D20 <BR> <BR>Concerts have been free but they often issue tickets for crowd = control.=3D20=3D &nbsp;&nbsp;The church can be contacted via the webpage = &nbsp;http://1stpc.o=3D rg/ <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Bruco=3D n502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com=3D /BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_ac.2c77f252.2a9c3cf6_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: music in society/education/ was strange requests. From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 22:54:33 EDT     --part1_21.22fe0d4a.2a9c43e9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Peter,   I am so glad to hear about the outreach at OCU. I know it was so = important to me as a teenager, starting me on my journey as a church organist. I = heard from someone at OBU that they had only 1 organ student this year. Being = down here, I don't always hear what is going on in OKC, Norman and Edmond in = the Universities. Thanks for setting me straight on OCU. Oklahoma does have many fine music departments in the Universities. I have a cousin who is Chairman of the Music dept of one of the Universities, and it has a jazz department which has no equal. Lee   --part1_21.22fe0d4a.2a9c43e9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Peter, <BR> <BR>I am so glad to hear about the outreach at OCU. &nbsp;I know it was so = important to me as a teenager, starting me on my journey as a church = organist. &nbsp;I heard from someone at OBU that they had only 1 organ = student this year. &nbsp;Being down here, I don't always hear what is = going on in OKC, Norman and Edmond in the Universities. &nbsp;Thanks for = setting me straight on OCU. &nbsp;Oklahoma does have many fine music = departments in the Universities. &nbsp;I have a cousin who is Chairman of = the Music dept of one of the Universities, and it has a jazz department = which has no equal. &nbsp;Lee</FONT></HTML>   --part1_21.22fe0d4a.2a9c43e9_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: music in society/education/ was strange requests. From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:53:04 +0100     Hello,   I have been so busy writing "A Lancashire organ crawl" and doing other = things, I have only just got around to catching up on the pipechat = backlog.   Ron Severin's comments about "music past" find an interesting echo here = in the UK.   By and large, school and community music is not good. However, at the = top end of the scale, we have some brilliant young performers; = presumably from wealthier families who have paid good money to draw out = the talent in these kids.   What has been lost so tragically, is that alternative way......great = music in places of religion. I am not talking Cathedra and Choir = Schools, but humble parishes and methodist chapels (especially) who = taught music to a very high standard indeed only a couple of generations = back. Of course, they still exist, but rarely these days.   I had a remarkable uncle; for his entire life a dairy farmer. However, = he had a fine singing voice as a boy and was brought up in the Methodist = tradition. When his voice broke, he eventually settled into the role of = bass singer.   So good was he, that he was called upon regularly to sing as bass = soloist in local (and not so local) performances of "Messiah".....a = strong tradition in the North of England especially. In point of fact, = he REGULARLY sang with the likes of Kathleen Ferrier and Isobelle Bailey = and, on several occasions, he was asked to sing professionally by the = BBC. He declined on the grounds that his cows and his family took = priority in his life!   I don't despise modern ways and I can understand the fascination of "pop = music", computer music and all the rest.....I have dabbled in this = fascinating aspect of music. However, I also know that proper musical = appreciation begins with correct tuition, high standards and musical = opportunity.   What happened?   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     Ron wrote:-   During the 50's and 60's when I was in school, we had classroom=20 music, music appreciation (listening to classical music) and parocial and public schools had choral and band programs. I joined the choir. We toured singing polyphany and carols during the Christmas season, choral concerts in church. The band people had similar things to do. In many cases average students, because of these programs became top grade earners, on the honor rolls.   What do smart, bright kids have to look foreward to now? Mindless TV game machines, Gangsta Rap, and cult heros. Their minds have been taken over by agenda education.=20    
(back) Subject: RE: Strange requests From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 09:04:05 +0100   Hello,   Hee hee!   Wot! No Blessing?   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   Paul Austin wrote:-   ...and there was another wedding a few years ago where I was asked to play a 'Queen' medley during the signing of the register. I heard that groom ran off with another man not long afterwards. I hope it wasn't anything to do with my medley!!