PipeChat Digest #3095 - Wednesday, August 28, 2002
 
Re: A Lancashire Organ Crawl (Part 3) LONG
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Strange requests & a question
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com>
Texas Choral Directors (x-post)
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
Re: Strange requests & a question
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Strange requests & a question
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com>
Stupid People Don't Appreciate pipe Organs
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com>
Re: Stupid People Don't Appreciate pipe Organs
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@optonline.net>
Re: music in society/education/ was strange requests.
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Strange requests & a question
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com>
Music for Manuals only?
  by "Carol Scott" <dclscott@skyenet.net>
RE: Music for Manuals only?
  by "Nance, Daryel" <DNance@svdp-edu.org>
Re: Music for Manuals only?
  by <patmai@juno.com>
Follow-up on David Drury CD
  by "Stephen Williams" <stepwill@enter.net>
Re: Texas Choral Directors (x-post)
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: Music for Manuals only?
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: A Lancashire Organ Crawl (Part 3) LONG From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:44:15 -0400   Dear Colin and list,   I can hardly wait for more!! This is wonderful stuff, and one of the few things on this list that has not attracted controversy - yet! Lancashire I really don't know, but West Yorkshire, I do!   I spent many happy summers outside Leeds, staying with a good friend, the church warden and also church architect, in the little towns of Oulton and Woodlesford. Woodlesford was the nondescript parish church with a nondescript organ, by whom I have forgotten, and Oulton had been the = family chapel of the Calverly family, later moved to Canada. The two churches shared one vicar. The hall, Oulton Hall, has now been turned into a posh hotel and conference center, but thank goodness, the lovely Rickman church remains untouched, with a fine Abbot and Smith mechanical instrument in a high gallery at the west end, reached by spiral staircase. I played and practiced there many summers. The choir sang all through the summer, and after rehearsal midweek, it was off to t'pub where the Guinness was on draught. We had jolly times. I brought my ten speed over from Canada, and rode all over that part of West Yorkshire.   I arrived on my first trip, with bicycle, at Woodlesford Station, on the little "pay train" that chuffed its way over the hills (through the oft mentioned Barnsley).* We had taken the fast train from London to = Sheffield, where I was leaving my friend off for an English Lit course he was doing there for eight weeks. There, I caught the pay train, Diesel, with a sort = of standard transmission - the engineer was shifting gears. It was all quite amazing to me.   My last year at Oulton saw the installation of a new vicar, a young smart-ass fresh from Oxford. "Enough of your Matthias, Shaw, and other = fancy stuff. From now on, it's a [vapid] Betty Pulkingham setting forever. Something the whole congregation can understand." The fact that the congregation sang Matthias, Shaw, and others heartily, escaped this man. = The choirs eventually disbanded, and a rather nice tradition died. In the = choir were my friend the architect, his wife and three bright children, all = music readers, the plumber, a quantity surveyor, a university professor, the butcher, and a couple of retired people and a few other young people. It = was a lovely fellowship, and the sound of conversations was music in itself, with the various accents found throughout the North, all somewhat exaggerated as the Guinness flowed.   The churches were in the Diocese of Ripon, but much closer, perhaps a ten minute ride, was the fine cathedral at Wakefield (some parts dating from = the 12th century), with a superb choir, and a glorious example of a very large Compton cathedral Organ. Evensong carried on during the summer, and we = were often there as a group.   Many thanks for great pleasure,   Malcolm   *Barnsley is a small coal mining town between Sheffield and Leeds. It has = an accent unique to this one town, and the new vicar's wife was from there, = and spoke it very broadly. A Member of Parliament once commented about = something he thought silly, but the opposition thought of great importance, by = saying sarcastically: "Oh yes, we know they speak of little else in Barnsley." = The place became famous over night. There is a four star restaurant just on = the edge of town - in Guide Michelin!   ----- Original Message ----- From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:47 AM Subject: A Lancashire Organ Crawl (Part 3) LONG     THE STRANGE CASE OF THE DISAPPEARING ORGANIST   It could never be claimed that Wigan is the jewel in Lancashire's = tarnished crown, but for organists (and especially our little group) it has one interesting organ. Old George had arranged things for us as we stepped aboard the bus from Yorkshire and rushed up to the front seats on the top deck; a small fight breaking out as we jockeyed for favourite seat. As the bus moaned and groaned its way across the wind-swept Pennines, the rain lashed down. Sheep cowered behind stone walls and humans ran for cover. In fact, with so much wool on the backs of each species, the two were almost indistinguishable.          
(back) Subject: Re: Strange requests & a question From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:18:25 -0400   The Arogancia 'supercililios' - just look at 'em. ...an Ari Fleicher is an example. He can't help it - that's just the way that he is.   I grew up in Elmhurst, NY in the shadow of that magnificent Elk's Club building on Queens Boulevard.   I never had the priviledge of hearing that organ fill the space with music.   How many ignorent self-satisfied political types were involved? And do they even contemplate what they've done?   I think not.   "Let's clean out that creakey old Pipe Organ from Symphony Hall, Boston"   Stan   John Vanderlee wrote: > > >John Vanderlee wrote: > >> > >> >Dear Stan: > >> > > >> >If mediocre is all the school system can muster in NY and CA > >> >why send them any money at all. 25 years ago both states were top > >> >achievers. Not anymore. The over ridding question is Why not? > >> being married to a music teacher in a public school i have a few = answers: > >> 1. Politicians > >> 2. politicians > >> 3. POLITICITIANS > > > >The lack of scruples present in these phoneys carries over to organ > >issues. "Whatthehell, a speaker can duplicate pipes nowadays." > >Who listens to organ music anyway? > > > >I would alter, with due respect your term John; the 'politicians'. > > > >The more proper term for these suppressed humans is: > >"The Arrogoncia" > > > >The raised eyebrows displayed by these supercilious self-absorbed = frauds gives > >them away.. > > > >Their sheer Arrogance > > > >Their 'cover' is blown. Just watch them misrepresent anything from = organ > >technology to War Plans. > > > >How about some stories about 'Organ Men'? > >Persons who defrauded churces and theatres. > >Trashing pipe organs (stealing) > > > >Good Topic? > > great topic! > How about the arrogance of a bank insisting it needed more parking > space (while surrounded by community lots @ 25 c/hour), that a > theatre - the last one in town - dating to 1869 be demolished? > > Fortunately, concerned citizens were able to save the place which is > now THE performing arts center, containing its original 1928 > Wurlitzer, and the engine that drives the downtown revitalization. > > The bank is still doing well - now gobbled up by mergers. > > Bardavon 1869 opera house in Poughkeepie, NY > > www.bardavon.org    
(back) Subject: Texas Choral Directors (x-post) From: "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:30:40 -0500   Was anyone on the list at the recent Texas Choral Directors Convention? I heard about the event, and I would really like to see a copy of the = program.   Thank you, list,   Paul Opel   http://www.sover.net/~popel      
(back) Subject: Re: Strange requests & a question From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:01:54 -0700   >The Arogancia 'supercililios' - just look at 'em. >..an Ari Fleicher is an example. >He can't help it - that's just the way that he is. > >I grew up in Elmhurst, NY in the shadow of that magnificent Elk's Club >building on Queens Boulevard. > >I never had the priviledge of hearing that organ fill the space with >music. > >How many ignorent self-satisfied political types were involved? >And do they even contemplate what they've done? > >I think not. > >"Let's clean out that creakey old Pipe Organ from Symphony Hall, Boston" > >Stan   Funny you should mention that... I was involved in the removal of that instrument from that Lodge. a III-7 Wurlitzer. After NYTOS watched the organ decay over a 20 year period, the console nearly destroyed as they had Wrestling matches in their auditorium where the console stood. After we begged and pleaded repeatedly with the Elks people to let us fix/maintain it - I hate to say it but all discussions were usually at the bar downstairs with glassy eyed "officials" - which never led to anywhere. The building was obviously too much for this dying Elks club. Every time we tried the organ it was worse, and there was leakage into the chambers. we offered free help, concerts to no avail. Eventually the building went to a church who wanted nothing to do with the organ. They thought they could sell it to someone for $3500 or so who thought the console "was the whole organ", with that deal falling through - they finally called us in again. We found that disaster had struck; during some "musical event" large speakers were "placed" on top of the chests behind the shutters, reducing most ranks to pretzels .   We found a half inch of "city dust" every where. Blown regulators. leaking windlines. The console had broken keys, broken tabs, missing parts and 70 years worth of wear and abuse. A deal was struck with the church and we had a day to remove it on short notice. As NYTOS had no venues available, no long term storage but many projects in need of help, it was decided to disperse it as it would benefit NYTOS(read theatre organ)most in the spiritual sense.   Much of the organ that was salvageable will be incorporated in our new high school installation where kids are involved in the project. The NJ people at Bound Brook whose organ "drowned " in a flood were happy to spend the time on the console and some other parts to help make their instrument sing again. And yes we sold some stuff outright to fund the high school project. A sad end? yes. But this lemon story will make a lot of lemonade. The high school organ will have "Queens Elks" stamped on its refurbished chests, and we'll gladly point out that distinguished lineage. Some of the proceeds will help restore some of the Elks ranks. Albeit no longer together, this organ will continue to make music for the future.   John V  
(back) Subject: Re: Strange requests & a question From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:36:02 -0400       John Vanderlee wrote: > > >The Arogancia 'supercililios' - just look at 'em.   > We found a half inch of "city dust" every where. Blown regulators. > leaking windlines. The console had broken keys, broken tabs, missing > parts and 70 years worth of wear and abuse.   I read an earlier post from you, John, and got an almost visual sense of that abused Wurlitzer in that classic looking building on Queens Blvd.   How much Theatre Organ GOLD is left to Mine in New York City?   Stan    
(back) Subject: Stupid People Don't Appreciate pipe Organs From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:22:06 -0400   How many Bach era pipe organs were destroyed?   American Classic trackers - they're 'Historical' now.. Stupid people just don't 'get it'   A musical illiteracy has swept the land with the pump & grind of the = record industry.   Stupid People Rule - 'hey that old wurlitzer is worth at least a thousand bucks, scrapped..'   "Who listens to organ music, anyway?"   Stan    
(back) Subject: Re: Stupid People Don't Appreciate pipe Organs From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@optonline.net> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:24:46 -0400   I do!!!   Stanley Lowkis wrote:   > > > "Who listens to organ music, anyway?" > > Stan   > --   Jungian Type: INTJ      
(back) Subject: Re: music in society/education/ was strange requests. From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:11:41 -0400   On 8/26/02 3:02 AM, "RonSeverin@aol.com" <RonSeverin@aol.com> wrote:   > They > have been effective only in destroying learning, and subsituting > their own political agendas. NEA has been instrumental in this > type of socialist destruction. It's time to take our schools back from > these evil intentioned people.   Ron, I totally agree with you.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Strange requests & a question From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:54:46 -0400       John Vanderlee wrote: > > >The Arogancia 'supercililios' - just look at 'em. > >..an Ari Fleicher is an example. > >He can't help it - that's just the way that he is. > > > >I grew up in Elmhurst, NY in the shadow of that magnificent Elk's Club > >building on Queens Boulevard. > > > >I never had the priviledge of hearing that organ fill the space with > >music. > > > >How many ignorent self-satisfied political types were involved? > >And do they even contemplate what they've done? > >   Thank you John, for your Post which documents the efforts of a dedicated group of organ saviours doing the best that they can in saving pipes and all of the other stuff that makes our favorite 'king of instruments' = -sing-   Is it a Flentrop in a church threatened with destruction? A forgotton Shantz, negleted in the loft..   A Hook & Hastings treasure?   God Bless you Pipe Organ Saviors sweating in the lofts, making the sound of air running through pipes that those of us 'in the know' revel in their true pipe glory.   Stan   "Digital pipes hahahahahahahahahahahahahhah!"    
(back) Subject: Music for Manuals only? From: "Carol Scott" <dclscott@skyenet.net> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:02:01 -0400   Folks, I could use some help. I've broken my left ankle. It's not major, I probably won't be out of action long-- but I am going to have to play at least two Sundays without the use of my left foot. I have some adequate manuals-only music, but nothing I really love. Can any of you steer me to some wonderful music for the next few weeks? Bright up-tempo pieces would be especially helpful.   Thanks! Carol Scott      
(back) Subject: RE: Music for Manuals only? From: "Nance, Daryel" <DNance@svdp-edu.org> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:52:27 -0500   Oooouch, ..sorry about the left ankle!   Hit my website www.church-organist.com and see if anything stirs your interest on the "music for synthesier/or pianists migrating to organ" = page. You can order some of it over the internet via sheet music plus.   Good luck with the ankle. If you know someone who does any of the therapeutic touch, Reiki, healing touch, Ruah Channeling, etc., you might find that they help accelerate bone healing.   Peace and blessings, Daryel       Daryel Nance St.Vincent de Paul Church, Houston mailto:dnance@svdp-edu.org www.dompaulbenoit.com ; www.church-organist.com ; www.daryeln.com ; www.ruah.info   "...the only ones among you who will really be happy are those who sought and found how to serve." Albert Schwietzer         -----Original Message----- From: Carol Scott [mailto:dclscott@skyenet.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:02 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Music for Manuals only?     Folks, I could use some help. I've broken my left ankle. It's not major, I probably won't be out of action long-- but I am going to have to play at least two Sundays without the use of my left foot. I have some adequate manuals-only music, but nothing I really love. Can any of you steer me to some wonderful music for the next few weeks? Bright up-tempo pieces would be especially helpful.   Thanks! Carol Scott       "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Music for Manuals only? From: <patmai@juno.com> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:20:30 -0400   Dear Carol,   Sorry to learn that you have broken your left ankle. >Can any of you steer me to some wonderful music for the next few weeks? Bright up-tempo pieces would be especially helpful.   Try Charles Callahan, who has published a few collections for Manuals Only for Morning Star.   By all means practice your Bach Inventions, Two- and Three-Part, many of the Preludes and Fugues from the Well-Tempered Clavier, Books I and II, and some of the manualiter chorale preludes from the Clavieruebung, e.g., the one on the Ten Commandments is "up-tempo." When you are in the mood for something a bit more solemn, try Bach's setting of "Vater unser" (The Lord's Prayer) in D minor for manuals alone, also from that collection. The middle section of the St. Anne Fugue is for manuals alone..   There are some English voluntaries that work well without pedals.   Franck's L'Organiste for harmonium... Vierne's 24 Pieces...   I am sure that others will help you with more ideas..   Prayers that your ankle will heal quickly, but most importantly, completely.   Pat Maimone (currently dealing with a sprained right ankle..)   ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.  
(back) Subject: Follow-up on David Drury CD From: "Stephen Williams" <stepwill@enter.net> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:28:14 -0400   Thanks to all of you who responded regarding the "Music for a Grand Organ" CD recorded by David Drury at Sidney Town Hall. I am completely amazed = that so many of you were able to put your finger on the title, and point me in the right direction, and so quickly. You're a GREAT bunch of folks! Warm fuzzies to all . . .   BTW, those of you who aren't aware, you might check out http://www.buywell.com/   Stephen Organist, St. John's Lutheran & Muhlenberg College, Allentown PA    
(back) Subject: Re: Texas Choral Directors (x-post) From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:03:46 -0500   Yes, I was there, as usual. It was great, as usual. If you get in touch = with Southern Music Co., in San Antonio, they can probably send you a program. If you are wondering why I attend, it is because I direct the choir at the Jefferson Unitarian Church in Fort Worth, and have done so for about 30 = years. One of our clinicians; Sr. Paul Oakley emphasized the study of style in = choral singing. He pointed out that a big problem with most church choirs is = that they make everything sound like Verdi or Puccini. My observation is that this = is also a big problem with many college and professional choirs as well. = These groups are in effect feeder groups for our church choirs, providing both directors and singers. My own experience with these groups is that many singers are not trained = to be able to modify their singing style to suit the music. Why is this so? A = fine violinist is able to modify their playing style away from the soloistic to = blend with fellow musicians according to the instructions of the conductor and concertmaster. Why should not a fine singer be able to do this also? The musical result of many of our otherwise fine choirs is ruined for many of = use by this constant problem, which evidently is worsened by some voice studios. = I hope somewhere, someone is working on this problem. Roy Redman   Paul Opel wrote:   > Was anyone on the list at the recent Texas Choral Directors Convention? = I > heard about the event, and I would really like to see a copy of the = program. > > Thank you, list, > > Paul Opel > > http://www.sover.net/~popel > > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > Note: opinions expressed on PIPORG-L are those of the individual con- > tributors and not necessarily those of the list owners nor of the Uni- > versity at Albany. For a brief summary of list commands, send mail to > listserv@listserv.albany.edu saying GET LSVCMMDS.TXT or see the web > page at http://www.albany.edu/piporg-l/lsvcmmds.html . > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::    
(back) Subject: Re: Music for Manuals only? From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 23:45:16 -0400   Greetings Carol,   To add to the excellent postings: the Peters edition titled "80 Choral Preludes" has a number of selections for manuals only.   I hope that your ankle heals up quickly. Be sure to take up some physical therapy when you are able. It will sure help flex up the muscles and get you prepared to play pedals again.   All the best,   Bonnie Beth   Bonnie Beth Derby orge@dreamscape.com