PipeChat Digest #3304 - Tuesday, December 17, 2002
 
Sunday night party time
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com>
Re: Chickering grands
  by "mack02445" <mack02445@mindspring.com>
Cleaning zinc pipes
  by "Stan Yoder" <vze2myh5@verizon.net>
Re: Cleaning zinc pipes
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
Re: Chickering grands
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Pete & Dud
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Chickering grands
  by "Ronald Gibson" <gibsonronald@hotmail.com>
Re: Chickering grands
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: Pete & Dud
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Advent III Music
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: Cleaning zinc pipes
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Cleaning zinc pipes
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Cleaning zinc pipes
  by "John Mackey" <johnmackey@mindspring.com>
Re: Cleaning zinc pipes
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@optonline.net>
Re: Cleaning zinc pipes
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net>
=90OLIAN-SKINNER OPUS LIST
  by "D. Keith Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com>
 

(back) Subject: Sunday night party time From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:07:09 +0000   Hi Everyone seems to be knocking it back on Saturday nights. We celebrated = the end of term last night (Sunday) with a Christmas Concert and a party - In addition to the Hot wine punch - (a mixture of tea, orange juice, fresh organs (sorry misspelling - oranges - I'm not dyslexic. I just can't spell =   rite) red wine, brandy and sugar simmered gently, we sang Christmas Carols = - John Rutter, a mixture of Greek and traditional carols,and some of the children played instrumental solos. Outstanding was 10 year old Dimitris = on Bazouki, who played some Greek dances and then we performed a fantasy for organ and Bazouki on "O treno fevgeis stis Okto taxidi gia stin Katerini." =   Greek list members will be able to translate this! None of the soloists = was over 12 years old - yet the standard of playing was very high! 9 year old Benedict, who can reach the pedals now, played for some of the Carols, and = a good time was had by all. After the music came the food - Pizzas were delivered by Mercury from Mount Olympus (Alithea einai!) and everyone went =   off happily at 10 o'clock. Zeus has asked me to send you his seasons greetings. John Foss Mount Olympus www.johnfoss.gr               _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/featuredemail    
(back) Subject: Re: Chickering grands From: "mack02445" <mack02445@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:54:47 -0500     Dennis Steckley wrote   >I'm convinced that NOTHING beats that thundering, rumbling bass of an old >Chickering grand......it is an absolutely thrilling sound! > > > Well I have to admit Chickering built a fine fine piano, but, Mason & Hamlin, IMNSHO, had a much better tone, at least in any built before AMPICO took the name over.   Cheers, Mack      
(back) Subject: Cleaning zinc pipes From: "Stan Yoder" <vze2myh5@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:41:30 -0500   I have an old zinc diapason AA (Kimball) that I wish to mount on a wall. = What is the best procedure to clean it for a more uniform look? I wouldn't be able to immerse it in = some 'pickling' bath, but more like a wipe-down, then perhaps spray it with automobile clear-coat. = It appears to have been lacquered originally, but much worn off with time and handling.   Private responses better, I would think.   TIA, Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: Re: Cleaning zinc pipes From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:55:37 -0500   Dear Stan, I find that Scotch Brite works well and conforms to the profile of = the pipe. Then spray with a clean coat of lacquer or polyurethane. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Yoder" <vze2myh5@verizon.net> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:41 AM Subject: Cleaning zinc pipes     > I have an old zinc diapason AA (Kimball) that I wish to mount on a wall. What is the best procedure > to clean it for a more uniform look? I wouldn't be able to immerse it in some 'pickling' bath, but > more like a wipe-down, then perhaps spray it with automobile clear-coat. It appears to have been > lacquered originally, but much worn off with time and handling. > > Private responses better, I would think. > > TIA, > Stan Yoder > Pittsburgh > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Chickering grands From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:59:23 EST     --part1_129.1db68a02.2b2f525b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   now that i think of it....nothing can compare to the bass on a 9'Steinway.   --part1_129.1db68a02.2b2f525b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>now that i think of = it....nothing can compare to the bass on a 9'Steinway.</FONT></HTML>   --part1_129.1db68a02.2b2f525b_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Pete & Dud From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:08:08 +0000 (GMT)   --0-883483763-1040054888=3D:47201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit     Hello, When Dudley Moore and Peter Cooke died, the brewery shares fell = dramatically. "Dud" was an amazing talent certainly......former Uni Organ Scholar at = Oxford under Barry Rose, a world class jazz player and, as a comedian, = with few equals. In fact, he was one of the very few comedians to ever use = music as his comedy "prop"....his spoof Beethoven Piano piece on the theme = of "Colonel Bogey" remains a classic. I think of the excellent P D Q Bach, Gerard Hoffnung, Victor Borge as = other rare examples. I never met Dudley Moore, but I did "meet" his comedy counterpart, Peter = Cooke, who was discovered outside my apartment block in London in such a = state that my partner and I were forced to drag him indoors for his own = safety and well-being. Seldom have I come across anyone so steaming drunk! Having slept off the previous night's binge, he awoke in a bad = state....hungover and feeling ill. He was quite abusive until I shouted at = him; following which he apologised and thanked me. After that, he was cast = out into the outside world and sent on his way! Not a pleasant encounter, and very sad to see a comic genius degenerating = and unable to work much at all. Shortly after that, he died very suddenly. The sad decline of "Dud" and his premature death, has certainly left a gap = in our lives. Regards, Colin Mitchell UK RonSeverin@aol.com wrote:Dear Chatters:   These scenarios would work well in a Dudley Moore movie. He was really talented, a world class player and a fine comedic actor. He will be missed.   Ron       --------------------------------- With Yahoo! Mail you can get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits = your needs   --0-883483763-1040054888=3D:47201 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit   <P>Hello, <P>When Dudley Moore and Peter Cooke died, the brewery shares fell = dramatically. <P>"Dud" was an amazing talent certainly......former Uni Organ Scholar at = Oxford under Barry Rose, a world class jazz player and, as a comedian, = with few equals. In fact, he was one of the very few comedians to ever use = music as his comedy "prop"....his spoof Beethoven Piano piece on the theme = of "Colonel Bogey" remains a classic. <P>I think of the excellent P D Q Bach, Gerard Hoffnung, Victor Borge as = other rare examples. <P>I never met Dudley Moore, but I did "meet" his comedy counterpart, = Peter Cooke, who was discovered outside my apartment block in London in = such a state that&nbsp;my partner and I were forced to drag him indoors = for his own safety and well-being. Seldom have I come across anyone so = steaming drunk! <P>Having slept off the previous night's binge, he awoke in a bad = state....hungover and feeling ill. He was quite abusive until I shouted at = him; following which he apologised and thanked me.&nbsp;After that, he was = cast out into the outside world and sent on his way! <P>Not a pleasant encounter, and very sad to see a comic genius = degenerating and unable to work much at all. Shortly after that, he died = very suddenly. <P>The sad decline of "Dud" and his premature death, has certainly left = a&nbsp;gap in our lives. <P>Regards, <P>Colin Mitchell <P>UK <P>&nbsp; <P>&nbsp;<B><I>RonSeverin@aol.com</I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT face=3DArial = lang=3D0 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Dear Chatters:<BR><BR>These = scenarios would work well in a Dudley Moore movie.<BR>He was really = talented, a world class player and a fine<BR>comedic actor. He will be = missed.<BR><BR>Ron</FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><p><p><br><hr size=3D1><a = href=3D"http://uk.yahoo.com/mail/tagline_xtra/?http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mai= l_storage.html"><b><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">With Yahoo! Mail you = can get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your = needs</font></b></a><br> --0-883483763-1040054888=3D:47201--  
(back) Subject: Re: Chickering grands From: "Ronald Gibson" <gibsonronald@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:10:55 +0000   <html><div style=3D'background-color:'><DIV> <P><BR><BR></P></DIV> <P>Dear Greg, </P> <P>"Nothing compares to the bass of a 9' Steinway . . . . . ."&nbsp;&nbsp; = ???</P> <P>Nothing except perhaps the bass section of the Cleveland Orchestra!</P> <P>Merry Christmas &amp; Happy New Year!</P> <P>Sincerely yours,</P> <P>Ronald D. Gibson</P> <P>Oberlin, Ohio</P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Gfc234@aol.com <DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: "PipeChat" <PIPECHAT@PIPECHAT.ORG> <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: pipechat@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: Chickering grands <DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:59:23 EST <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;now that i think of it....nothing can compare to the bass = on a 9'Steinway. <DIV></DIV></div><br clear=3Dall><hr>MSN 8 helps <a = href=3D"http://g.msn.com/8HMDEN/2020">ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. </a> Get 2 = months FREE*.</html>  
(back) Subject: Re: Chickering grands From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:54:42 EST     --part1_12c.1ddd3717.2b2f6d62_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   or a cavaille coll contre bombarde! that should be obvious though-by = nature the piano is inferior to the organ! hahahahah   nice to hear from you ronald.   happy holidays! gfc   --part1_12c.1ddd3717.2b2f6d62_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>or a cavaille coll = contre bombarde! &nbsp;that should be obvious though-by nature the piano = is inferior to the organ! &nbsp;hahahahah <BR> <BR>nice to hear from you ronald. <BR> <BR>happy holidays! <BR>gfc</FONT></HTML>   --part1_12c.1ddd3717.2b2f6d62_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Pete & Dud From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:12:20 EST     --part1_12e.1dc7262c.2b2f7184_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   That is a great story!   One of my favorite movies is Bedazzled!   "Did you know that everything I 've told you up to this point has been a = lie, including this." hahahah   --part1_12e.1dc7262c.2b2f7184_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>That is a great story! <BR> <BR>One of my favorite movies is Bedazzled! <BR> <BR>"Did you know that everything I 've told you up to this point has been = a lie, including this." &nbsp;hahahah</FONT></HTML>   --part1_12e.1dc7262c.2b2f7184_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Advent III Music From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:35:01 -0500   Preludes - Rorate Coeli by Jeanne Desmessieux and "He Shall Feed His Flock" fr. Messiah, Handel Postlude - Improv. on last Hymn Hymns O Come, O Come, Emmanuel, verses 1,2,7 On Jordan's Bank Creator of the Stars of Night Come, Thou Long-Expected Jesus   Responsorial Psalm & Alleluia Settings - Owen Alstott Mass Setting Sanctus - O. Alstott Memorial Acclamations - Danish Amen Tune Sung Lord's Prayer in Chant acapella Agnus Dei - Latin Chant   Our Lady of Good Counsel RC for 3 weekend Masses, West Boylston MA Judy Ollikkala, Interim Music Minister   Tonight's third of the Triduum in Honor of St. Joseph cancelled due to our sixth snowstorm of the season, 4 inches so far at 1pm, and it isn't even winter yet! This is Central Massachusetts. Unbelievable!  
(back) Subject: Re: Cleaning zinc pipes From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:53:53 EST     --part1_149.529e61e.2b2f7b41_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Stan, If you really want a stunning wall decoration, clean the pipe using "directions of the learned" and then do some nice stencilling. It will = be amazing!     Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 check out <A = HREF=3D"http://www.visionsuccess.com/BC2053">Vision Success </A>       --part1_149.529e61e.2b2f7b41_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Stan, <BR>If you really want a stunning wall decoration, clean the pipe using = "directions of the learned" and then do some nice stencilling. = &nbsp;&nbsp;It will be amazing! <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;check out &nbsp;&nbsp;<A = HREF=3D"http://www.visionsuccess.com/BC2053">Vision Success </A> <BR> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_149.529e61e.2b2f7b41_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Cleaning zinc pipes From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:57:16 EST   Pickling baths are for cucumbers who desire to become pickles. Do NOT use corrosives on zinc pipes; if you DO resort to water, dry = them immediately and thoroughly, inside and out. Clear-coat is fine, as are various lacquers. Shellac is also a traditional finish for zinc pipes, but doesn't give the same sheen as a sprayed lacquer.   SMG  
(back) Subject: Re: Cleaning zinc pipes From: "John Mackey" <johnmackey@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:16:58 -0500       Stan Yoder wrote: > > I have an old zinc diapason AA (Kimball) that I wish to mount on a wall. = What is the best procedure > to clean it for a more uniform look? I wouldn't be able to immerse it in = some 'pickling' bath, but > more like a wipe-down, then perhaps spray it with automobile clear-coat. = It appears to have been > lacquered originally, but much worn off with time and handling.   Hey Stan, You're on the right track with a "wipe down" method. When I worked at Austin, I washed hundreds of ranks but... Never washed old Zinc (Tends to turn them white!!). Zincs were only washed once, when brand new (To get the Gum Arabic off) and, even then, they had to be removed from the bath and hand dried (never put into a heater box!!). Finally, they would be varnished. After that, A dry, clean cloth and per- haps some compressed air... that's all. BTW, if they are not uniform, that's ok. it's their natural state.   John Mackey   PS If they get wet, they must be dried Immediately of else the white stuff appears.  
(back) Subject: Re: Cleaning zinc pipes From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@optonline.net> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:27:56 -0500   A very dilute solution of nitric acid will clean zinc although I'm unsure if this is good for your purposes.   Marika   Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > Stan, > If you really want a stunning wall decoration, clean the pipe using > "directions of the learned" and then do some nice stencilling. It > will be amazing! > > > Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres > http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 check out Vision Success > <http://www.visionsuccess.com/BC2053> >   -- Jungian Type: INTJ Wireless: 201 747 4219        
(back) Subject: Re: Cleaning zinc pipes From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:10:52 -0600   It is most definitely *not*.   PLEEAAAASE trust us on this one...! (see TubaMagna's post earlier this evening...<g>)   Tim   At 06:27 PM 12/16/2002 -0500, you wrote: >A very dilute solution of nitric acid will clean zinc although I'm unsure =   >if this is good for your purposes. > >Marika    
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