PipeChat Digest #3305 - Wednesday, December 18, 2002
 
Re: PipeChat Digest #3304 - 12/17/02
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com>
Re: Cleaning zinc pipes
  by <LeliaLoban@aol.com>
Grand Pianos
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: Cleaning zinc pipes
  by "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>
Re: Cleaning zinc pipes
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: Grand Pianos
  by "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
Re: Grand Pianos
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Removing later paint from stenciling
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Grand Pianos
  by "G. Deboer" <gdeboer@bluemarble.net>
Need a favor
  by "mack02445" <mack02445@mindspring.com>
information sought x-posted
  by "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com>
Re: Grand Pianos
  by "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com>
Re: information sought x-posted
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: What to Say About Careron Carpenter? Greenwich, 11/22/02
  by <AFberlin3@aol.com>
RE: Grand Pianos
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: =C6OLIAN-SKINNER OPUS LIST
  by <Icedad@aol.com>
Re: =C6OLIAN-SKINNER OPUS LIST
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Rheinberger Op. 150 No. 6 Vn/Org
  by "MARAUDER" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: information sought x-posted
  by "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com>
Re: Grand Pianos
  by "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com>
Re: Rheinberger Op. 150 No. 6 Vn/Org
  by <Hell-Concerts@t-online.de>
Re: Moller Opus List
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #3304 - 12/17/02 From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:11:30 +0000   Dear list Dare I suggest a correction to Colin Mitchell's post - I imagine Dudley Moore was an organ scholar under Bernard rather than Barry Rose. Barry = Rose started life as a city clerk before taking up the pipes. I knew him in his =   days at Guildford, where he had a very fine choir. I wasn't too keen on = the organ - a 4 manual Rushworth & Dreaper - and when I somewhat tactlessly = told him this he said "Oh, well you won't want to be giving a recital here will =   you!" However, I eventually did - it sounds better from the console! Incidentally Benedict asked me to point out that he is 10 years old, not = 9. There you are Bene - I promised I'd correct it! John Foss From the Home of the Gods, Mount Olympus www.johnfoss.gr         _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/junkmail    
(back) Subject: Re: Cleaning zinc pipes From: <LeliaLoban@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:26:17 EST     Stan Yoder wrote, >I have an old zinc diapason AA (Kimball) that I wish to >mount on a wall. What is the best procedure to clean it >for a more uniform look?   As a semi-retired stained glass designer/builder/restorer, I strongly = second SMG's advice that,   >> Pickling baths are for cucumbers who desire to become >>pickles. Do NOT use corrosives on zinc pipes; if you DO >>resort to water, dry them immediately and thoroughly, inside >>and out.   What he says. Karin Meacham, my boss at the stained glass studio where I apprenticed years ago, taught me never to use nitric acid or other = corrosives on zinc. There, and later in my own studio, I sometimes had to try to = repair (with poor results) damage from acid cleaning methods applied to the zinc frames of stained glass windows. Acid cleaning was popular in the 1960s through 1980s. It was done by companies that salvaged decorative windows from buildings being torn down, and by building scrubbers (usually with = the windows removed while the stone, concrete or brick walls were sandblasted clean).   Presumably someone hand-cleaning one organ pipe would do a much better job =   than typical building-scrubber companies did of making sure every bit of = the acid is completely washed away after the cleaning, but I still wouldn't = risk that method. The frequent result of such treatment is that, within a few months or even weeks, depending on the content of the metal (which is = almost never pure zinc; I think that's probably the case with organ pipe metal, = as well, particularly if it's an old pipe), the frame turns a streaky mixture = of powdery white and dark gray, flecked with turquoise or green splotches. = The green represents deep, damaging corrosion. (I've seen the same mess = created deliberately on new, fake antique windows, and by mistake on windows made = by amateurs who didn't understand how crucial it is to completely remove all = the greasy acid flux after soldering.) Cleaning with super- fine steel wool leaves pits where the green splotches were, and of course that = burnished-down look probably isn't what anyone would want for a decorative organ pipe anyway.   I'm not a total wacko about preserving absolutely original condition right =   down to the vintage fingerprints, but my personal preference is to leave battle scars as honorable memorabilia, and clean away only dirtiness on = old metal. I play a 1926 C. G. Conn bass saxophone with so much damage to its =   silver plating that it looks like the sewer pipe the plumber throws in the =   back of the truck *after* finishing a job, but to me those scrapes and = dings are romantic relics of its former life as a dance band ax during the Jazz Age. I'd never consider getting the old monster re-plated, although I did =   have the restorationist give it a good soap and water bath and a set of = new leather pads, because in "as found" condition, it leaked from every key = and smelled like a dead goat. As for organ pipes, I like the dark gray luster = of old zinc.   Lelia  
(back) Subject: Grand Pianos From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:20:30 -0600   Yes, Mason & Hamlin is a very fine piano, indeed; I prefer them to Steinway, also a very fine piano. But I don't think either one of them can match that thunderous, rumbling, rolling bass of an old Chickering--even in a six or seven foot size. And there may be times you don't want that thundering, rolling bass sound, for that matter. There's a wonderful recording of Gottschalk piano music on a restored Chickering belonging to the Smithsonian.   Dennis Steckley   Ich liebe meine Katzen   -----Original Message-----   Well I have to admit Chickering built a fine fine piano, but, Mason & Hamlin, IMNSHO, had a much better tone, at least in any built before AMPICO took the name over.   Cheers, Mack   From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:59:23 EST     now that i think of it....nothing can compare to the bass on a 9'Steinway.          
(back) Subject: Re: Cleaning zinc pipes From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:36:36 -0000   While we are on this subject has any one any ideas for removing an = unwanted layer of 40 year old (would you believe it) brilliant white emulsion paint applied over the original cream enamel background - leaving the background unaffected. The original painted pattern is visible and I would like to restore the pipes to their original appearance.The organ case is 1878 (pic on my website).   I suspect the only way to do this will be to repaint the lot.   However, someone may have a bright idea.   Bruce Miles   website - http://www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk/index.html    
(back) Subject: Re: Cleaning zinc pipes From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:55:04 -0600   WE have done this many times, and it is tricky! Experiment with different kinds of paint strippers to see if any will remove the top layer, or = layers and leave the original intact. If the top layer is latex, there are special strippers for that, etc. Usually you can recover enough of the original = to determine colors. Some of the designs will usually be etched into the = metal from sunlight, but this may not include all detail. For a good result, = the pipes will need to be repainted and restenciled. Roy Redman.   Bruce Miles wrote:   > While we are on this subject has any one any ideas for removing an = unwanted > layer of > 40 year old (would you believe it) brilliant white emulsion paint = applied > over the original cream enamel background - leaving the background > unaffected. The original painted pattern is visible and I would like to > restore the pipes to their original appearance.The organ case is 1878 = (pic > on my website). > > I suspect the only way to do this will be to repaint the lot. > > However, someone may have a bright idea. > > Bruce Miles > > website - http://www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk/index.html > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Grand Pianos From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:28:17 -0600   I know we are a bit off topic with pianos (though not really since I do practice a lot of my organ music on the piano even though I have a pipe organ !) but I will add my 2 cents on this for what it is worth. I can appreciate all that has been said about each piano maker but lets not = forget that each instrument is very different from the next. I have played many Steinways that are fabulous and a few that were not at all impressive. The same for Mason and Hamlin (I used to own one made in 1927). These were = hand crafted instruments and like violins each and every one has their own particular qualities based in part on the wood available and the people involved in its production. PLUS, many companies esp. Mason & Hamlin have been bought out many times over. I have a student that has a huge = Chickering and it is for lack of a better word "dull". I have played some wonderful Chickering pianos so I am not putting them down. A lot of this is = personal taste, I do happen to own a 1932 Steinway M which for many is actually too strong and loud, but I respond well to it and I love to play it. Many of these fine old pianos have had questionable restoration. We must be = careful not to generalize based on a name. I sure would love to hear that Gottschalk recording Dennis, is it in print?   Hang in there with all the music preparations !   Robert Eversman Blue Mounds, WI       Dennis wrote:   > Yes, Mason & Hamlin is a very fine piano, indeed; I prefer them to > Steinway, also a very fine piano. But I don't think either one of them > can match that thunderous, rumbling, rolling bass of an old > Chickering--even in a six or seven foot size. And there may be times > you don't want that thundering, rolling bass sound, for that matter. > There's a wonderful recording of Gottschalk piano music on a restored > Chickering belonging to the Smithsonian. > > Dennis Steckley >          
(back) Subject: Re: Grand Pianos From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 09:45:20 +1300   The 1906 7'8" Bechstein grand in my last parish was one of the finest = pianos I've ever heard, and an absolute joy to play as it was in 100% excellent condition.   For my part, I love the big old German pianos, too, like Lipp and Bosendorfer.   I thinkl it was a Russian piano that Byron Janis played on that lp issued = so many years ago, recorded in Moscow. That piano had a much more brilliant treble than a Steinway when hit hard: in the Liszt on the recording it's amazing. Does anyone know anything about that piano or its make?   I've never heard an American grand, sadly, though there may be one or two somewhere in NZ.   One of ther worst grand I know is a 9ft Danemann, made in about 1957. It = was bad even when new as I played it a few times then.   I don't like Japanese pianos, generally, as the sound is, to my ears, somewhat "electronic" in sound, and the biggish Yamaha here in my local parish is definitely like that to me, though others in the parish love it.   I used to know an old 9ft Pleyel. 'Nuff said.   Ross    
(back) Subject: Removing later paint from stenciling From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:48:24 EST   Dear Mr. Miles: Both restorers and consevators have noticed that if original surfaces were not properly cleaned before overpainting, there is a good chance that =   sufficiently accumulated deposits of particulate matter and substances burning off of candles can provide an "adhesion barrier," a separation = layer which greatly helps the restorer in the removal of overpainting. I don't = know what the air quality is like up in York, but I have found this to be the = case here in New York City. Also check the pipes in "raking light" at all angles; one can = sometimes see witness marks in the form of ridges, changes in paint adhesion, or peeling, that show additional stenciling obscured in the process. You are =   actually fortunate to have original stenciling intact, due to somebody = having the taste and manners NOT to cover it in its entirety.   Sebastian M. Gluck Tonal Director, Gluck New York Editor, Journal of American Organbuilding  
(back) Subject: Re: Grand Pianos From: "G. Deboer" <gdeboer@bluemarble.net> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:54:30 -0500   The Italians have a new type of piano out, called Fazioli (spelling ?). It is supposedly the most expensive piano available, 100K plus. I don't know how it compares with the other big boys, such as Bosendorfer, Steinway, etc. Anybody in the group knows who rules the roost ?   Gary   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:45 PM Subject: Re: Grand Pianos     > The 1906 7'8" Bechstein grand in my last parish was one of the finest pianos > I've ever heard, and an absolute joy to play as it was in 100% excellent > condition. > > For my part, I love the big old German pianos, too, like Lipp and > Bosendorfer. > > I thinkl it was a Russian piano that Byron Janis played on that lp = issued so > many years ago, recorded in Moscow. That piano had a much more brilliant > treble than a Steinway when hit hard: in the Liszt on the recording it's > amazing. Does anyone know anything about that piano or its make? > > I've never heard an American grand, sadly, though there may be one or = two > somewhere in NZ. > > One of ther worst grand I know is a 9ft Danemann, made in about 1957. It was > bad even when new as I played it a few times then. > > I don't like Japanese pianos, generally, as the sound is, to my ears, > somewhat "electronic" in sound, and the biggish Yamaha here in my local > parish is definitely like that to me, though others in the parish love = it. > > I used to know an old 9ft Pleyel. 'Nuff said. > > Ross > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Need a favor From: "mack02445" <mack02445@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:09:55 -0500   Dear Fellow listers,   I am looking for a really big favor. Does anyone out there have a copy of the Aeolian-Skinner, King of Instruments series of LP's? I am looking for volume 2 at present. Would some generous member of this august body copy it to tape for me? I will be happy to provide the cassette and return postage.   This is strictly for my own use no commercial project is planned I am missing that volume and others but that is what I would like to get at this time. Please reply privately if you can oblige me.   Thanks much,   Mack      
(back) Subject: information sought x-posted From: "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:00:19 -0600     Any Estey reed organ fans out there know of possible opus/model lists? I have a 1940's electric blower model, 4 sets of reeds + subbass, trem, etc....17 stops, but the knobs are missing. I'd like to duplicate the correct names/order if possible. I'm sure that Koppelfl=F6te and Bombarde on not on the list....   respond pvtly please....save the world from chatter <G>!     Jon Bertschinger    
(back) Subject: Re: Grand Pianos From: "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:04:21 -0600   I've played on one at Matters Inc...it's in their shop covered up. I believe it was about $125,000. It's quite a piano too...one of the best and clearest scales I've heard in a NEW piano for a long time. I'm not gonna go out and mortgage my home though...it's all paid for.     Jon bertschinger  
(back) Subject: Re: information sought x-posted From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:05:02 -0600   >Any Estey reed organ fans out there know of possible opus/model >lists? >I have a 1940's electric blower model, 4 sets of reeds + subbass, >trem, etc....17 stops, but the knobs are missing. I'd like to >duplicate the correct names/order if possible. I'm sure that >Koppelfl=F6te and Bombarde on not on the list....   Jon   you might have better luck getting the information you need from the Reed Organ List. The Reed Organ Society has a web site at: http://www.reedsoc.org/   David  
(back) Subject: Re: What to Say About Careron Carpenter? Greenwich, 11/22/02 From: <AFberlin3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 20:20:18 EST     --part1_42.32596026.2b312752_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit     In a message dated 12/11/02 2:55:58 AM, manderusa@earthlink.net writes:     > I have to say I > do not think it a happy candidate for transcription to the Organ, or at > least not this particular instrument. >   Dear Malcolm,   The Mahler Fifth Symphony makes a brilliant transcription. Michael = Barone has a tape of my performance of the complete symphony at Grace Cathedral. = Having both conducted and played the work on separate occasions, I must = say that I was able to give a true "orchestral" performance of the work on the =   organ.   And please allow me a moment of bragging rights by saying that, = truthfully, I commissioned the first transcription of this work in 1992 from the great transcriber-organist, the late Jerry Kinsella. We took a full-page ad = out in the TAO announcing our project. I know that many of my colleagues laughed at me for undertaking such a project, but I believed in it = completely and so did Jerry. Well, I performed the transcription, and people = weren't laughing any longer.   After that, others followed my work and transcribed movements for = themselves. I have the joy of saying that I started the trend with this work, and Carpenter, Briggs, et al. followed in the ensuing years.   It does work well as a transcription, but only if one truly understands = how to make an orchestra out of an organ. Sadly, only a very few of us do, = and not everyone who has played the Mahler on the organ belongs to this group.   Alexander Frey   --part1_42.32596026.2b312752_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2"><BR> In a message dated 12/11/02 2:55:58 AM, manderusa@earthlink.net = writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE CITE STYLE=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: = 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE=3D"CITE"></FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2">I have = to say I<BR> do not think it a happy candidate for transcription to the Organ, or = at<BR> least not this particular instrument.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2"><BR> <BR> Dear Malcolm,<BR> <BR> The Mahler Fifth Symphony makes a brilliant transcription.&nbsp; Michael = Barone has a tape of my performance of the complete symphony at Grace = Cathedral.&nbsp; Having both conducted and played the work on separate = occasions, I must say that I was able to give a true "orchestral" = performance of the work on the organ.<BR> <BR> And please allow me a moment of bragging rights by saying that, = truthfully, I commissioned the first transcription of this work in 1992 = from the great transcriber-organist, the late Jerry Kinsella.&nbsp; We = took a full-page ad out in the TAO announcing our project.&nbsp; I know = that many of my colleagues laughed at me for undertaking such a project, = but I believed in it completely and so did Jerry.&nbsp; Well, I performed = the transcription, and people weren't laughing any longer.<BR> <BR> After that, others followed my work and transcribed movements for = themselves.&nbsp; I have the joy of saying that I started the trend with = this work, and Carpenter, Briggs, et al. followed in the ensuing = years.<BR> <BR> It does work well as a transcription, but only if one truly understands = how to make an orchestra out of an organ.&nbsp; Sadly, only a very few of = us do, and not everyone who has played the Mahler on the organ belongs to = this group.<BR> <BR> Alexander Frey</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2"></FONT></HTML>   --part1_42.32596026.2b312752_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: Grand Pianos From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:33:36 -0600   It is my understanding that Baldwin Piano Company owns the names and now sells pianos under the names of Chickering and Wurlitzer.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Re: =C6OLIAN-SKINNER OPUS LIST From: <Icedad@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:41:09 EST     --part1_109.1d609bb1.2b313a45_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear Pipechat,   Thanks for the info on Aeolian-Skinner Opus List. I played many of those instruments in the Pittsburgh area, especially Sacred Heart Church. =   Thanks for the memories!! I would appreciate a similar Opus List for Moller instruments. Does anyone know of a site for Moller Archives. I played so many Moller instruments as a youngster and student that I would like to see what instruments are still in use.   Thanks,   Daniel Weimer Our Lady of Hope Church Port Orange, Florida   --part1_109.1d609bb1.2b313a45_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#0080ff" SIZE=3D4 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Tw Cen MT" LANG=3D"0">Dear Pipechat,<BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks for the info on Aeolian-Skinner Opus = List.&nbsp; I played many of those instruments in the Pittsburgh area, = especially Sacred Heart Church.&nbsp; Thanks for the memories!! <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I would appreciate a similar Opus List for Moller = instruments. Does anyone know of a site for Moller Archives. I played so = many Moller instruments as a youngster&nbsp; and student that I would like = to see what instruments are still in use. <BR> <BR> Thanks,<BR> <BR> Daniel Weimer<BR> Our Lady of Hope Church<BR> Port Orange, Florida</FONT></HTML>   --part1_109.1d609bb1.2b313a45_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: =C6OLIAN-SKINNER OPUS LIST From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:12:05 -0600   Daniel   There is no "on-line" version of the Moller Opus list unfortunately. The actual Moller files are part of the American Organ Archives of the Organ Historical Society. Maybe some day, the OHS will make available an "on-line" version but that is going to take LOTS of work and money to produce something like that.   If you would like to help the OHS be able to produce something like this please join the organization. And if you are already a member, give a membership as a gift to someone, especially a young person / student who might not be able to join on their own during this holiday season. The more members the Society has the more they will be able to do things like making these Moller archives available. There is an "Secure On-Line" membership form available on the OHS web site at: http://www.organsociety.org     David Scribner Chairman Membership Committee Organ Historical Society  
(back) Subject: Rheinberger Op. 150 No. 6 Vn/Org From: "MARAUDER" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:00:06 -0500   The Rheinberger Opus 150 works for violin and organ are published by = Amadeus Verlag. I'd like to purchase the No. 6 movement Adagio and Allegro (sometimes known as Adagio and Fugue, given the fugal nature of the Allegro), but my local distributer struck out.   Any good suggestions for a place to order this marvelous music? = Thanx.   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA  
(back) Subject: Re: information sought x-posted From: "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:34:54 -0600   Thanks David...  
(back) Subject: Re: Grand Pianos From: "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:48:59 -0600   Yes Glenda...tis tru. I have some pretty amazing stories about sheister piano/organ store in bizz just before Wurlizer went under and then to Bald-One. <G>   Jon  
(back) Subject: Re: Rheinberger Op. 150 No. 6 Vn/Org From: <Hell-Concerts@t-online.de> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 05:07:49 +0100 (CET)   Visit >www.bodensee-musikversand.de<. Klick on "Komponisten", then on "Rheinberger", and you will find, that op. 150/6 is available under the order-no. BM 117417. Price: EURO 9.50 (probably excl. shipping costs).       MARAUDER schrieb: > The Rheinberger Opus 150 works for violin and organ are > published by Amadeus > Verlag. I'd like to purchase the No. 6 movement Adagio > and Allegro > (sometimes known as Adagio and Fugue, given the fugal > nature of the > Allegro), but my local distributer struck out. > > Any good suggestions for a place to order this > marvelous music? Thanx. > > Karl E. Moyer > Lancaster PA > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & > related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Re: Moller Opus List From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:55:51 EST   I do not believe that M=F6ller actually published an opus list, or even=20= had=20 a complete one (exclusive of materials lost in the fire). They had almost=20 all of their records after the fire (I believe they had a fire some time in=20 their deep past), and clients and organbuilders could rather freely request,= =20 and receive free of charge, drawings of organs under their care. My sense is that it will be some time before the OHS can fully examine=20 and catalogue all of this material. Hopefully, the Archives can use student= =20 help for credits to get some work done, or can get funding for a graduate=20 assistant from Ryder. The status of the project is unknown to me, other than= =20 that it is a priority for many, but an expensive and exhausting task.   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City