PipeChat Digest #3312 - Friday, December 20, 2002
 
Re: Advice for Sunday at Christian Scientist Church
  by <Icedad@aol.com>
Christmas gift
  by <AFberlin3@aol.com>
Re: Grand Pianos
  by <AFberlin3@aol.com>
Re: Grand Pianos
  by "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Fox Entertainer
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: Grand Pianos
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
Re: Advice for Sunday at Christian Scientist Church
  by "Ray Ahrens" <Ray_Ahrens@msn.com>
Steinway Memories (was Re: Grand Pianos)
  by "Sand Lawn" <glawn@jam.rr.com>
Re: Grand Pianos
  by <FLTim@aol.com>
Books
  by <Kzimmer0817@aol.com>
Re: Books
  by "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com>
Re: Grand Pianos
  by "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com>
Re: Books
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: Books
  by "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Advice for Sunday at Christian Scientist Church From: <Icedad@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 08:12:29 EST     --part1_1bc.1880ad4f.2b34713d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Good Morning,   I was a regular organist for a small Christian Scientist Church in White Oak Pa from the age of 15 until I left for college. I played a wonderful Moller Artiste for all those years. That was the best experience = I have ever had with an appreciative congregation. We had 4 soloists who = were on a rotation basis. I learned HOW to accompany, not just play for a = soloist. Throughout my tenure there, I played all types of music. For the Christmas season I would use the Hymnal as a guide as not to offend the congregation with my Roman Catholicism. I also asked the soloists what is appropriate for the Christmas season. One favorites of the congregation was "Blessed Christmas Morn" by = Mary Baker Eddy. I also played some Bach, Daquin, and Langlais Christmas = Music. If you need some ideas let me know. I have tons of Christmas music. I also =   used Christmas arrangements by Titcomb, Willan , Manz and even some Bish. Merry Christmas and enjoy the season.   Sincerely,   Daniel Weimer Our Lady of Hope Church Port Orange, Florida   --part1_1bc.1880ad4f.2b34713d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D4 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Tw Cen MT" LANG=3D"0">Good Morning,<BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I was a regular organist for a small = Christian Scientist Church in White Oak Pa from the age of 15 until I left = for college.&nbsp; I played a wonderful Moller Artiste for all those = years. That was the best experience I have ever had with an appreciative = congregation. We had 4 soloists who were on a rotation basis. I learned = HOW to accompany, not just play for a soloist.<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Throughout my tenure there, I played all types of = music.&nbsp; For the Christmas season I would use the Hymnal as a guide as = not to offend the congregation with my Roman Catholicism. I also asked the = soloists what is appropriate for the Christmas season.<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; One favorites of the congregation was "Blessed = Christmas Morn" by Mary Baker Eddy. I also played some&nbsp; Bach, Daquin, = and Langlais Christmas Music. If you need some ideas let me know. I have = tons of Christmas music. I also used Christmas arrangements by&nbsp; = Titcomb, Willan , Manz and even some Bish.<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Merry Christmas&nbsp; and enjoy the season.<BR> <BR> Sincerely,<BR> <BR> Daniel Weimer<BR> Our Lady of Hope Church<BR> Port Orange, Florida</FONT></HTML>   --part1_1bc.1880ad4f.2b34713d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Christmas gift From: <AFberlin3@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:44:25 EST     --part1_1a1.dbe6c93.2b3486c9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear Friends,   I would like to offer you all the following musical websites as a = Christmas gift to bring a smile to your faces.   I wish you a most blessed holiday season. God bless you all. Alexander Frey<A = HREF=3D"http://www.madblast.com/funflash/swf/operababy.swf">   http://www.madblast.com/funflash/swf/operababy.swf</A>   http://www.madblast.com/view.cfm?type=3DFunFlash&display=3D1838   --part1_1a1.dbe6c93.2b3486c9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial" = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2"><B>Dear Friends,<BR> <BR> I would like to offer you all the following musical websites as a = Christmas gift to bring a smile to your faces.<BR> <BR> I wish you a most blessed holiday season.&nbsp; God bless you all.<BR> Alexander Frey</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Arial" = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2"><A = HREF=3D"http://www.madblast.com/funflash/swf/operababy.swf"> <BR> <BR> http://www.madblast.com/funflash/swf/operababy.swf</A></FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = SIZE=3D"2"> = http://www.madblast.com/view.cfm?type=3DFunFlash&amp;display=3D1838</B></FO= NT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = SIZE=3D"2"></FONT></HTML>   --part1_1a1.dbe6c93.2b3486c9_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Grand Pianos From: <AFberlin3@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:49:54 EST     --part1_66.2be5801c.2b348812_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I love Steinways the best, particularly my own. It's one of the reasons = why I'm a Steinway Artist and I endorse them with great joy. When I arrive = in a city to perform as pianist, I'm always comforted when I know that I'll be performing on a Steinway. Their pianos are full of beautiful color in = tone with the most responsive of actions.   Alexander Frey   --part1_66.2be5801c.2b348812_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2">I love Steinways the best, particularly my = own.&nbsp; It's one of the reasons why I'm a Steinway Artist and I = endorse them with great joy.&nbsp; When I arrive in a city to perform as = pianist, I'm always comforted when I know that I'll be performing on a = Steinway.&nbsp; Their pianos are full of beautiful color in tone with the = most responsive of actions.<BR> <BR> Alexander Frey</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2"></FONT></HTML>   --part1_66.2be5801c.2b348812_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Grand Pianos From: "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:28:21 -0500     On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:37:12 -0500 cdkrug@worldnet.att.net writes: > > Good points, all. There's more black magic in pianos than there is > even > in organs . . think about it, most pianos are sold to consumers who > are > neither musicians, woodworkers, metalworkers, piano techs . . . . > One such little "trick" used by Yamaha is the method whereby they get the piano top to be perfectly flat, without any ripples of any kind. They simply take the top and install a sheet of laminate (Formica counter top) over the whole thing !     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY   ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com  
(back) Subject: Fox Entertainer From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 08:52:48 -0600   You might leave a standing search on ebay.........that's how I found my copy after a couple of months.   Dennis Steckley   Ich liebe meine Katzen ______________   Hello, Would anyone have available a copy of Virgil Fox's "The Entertainer." I =3D have looked in used record stores surfed the net to no avail. Any help =3D is appreciated.   John      
(back) Subject: Re: Grand Pianos From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:09:59 -0500   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_4180878= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3Dflowed   At 09:49 AM 12/20/2002 -0500, you wrote: >I love Steinways the best, particularly my own. It's one of the reasons >why I'm a Steinway Artist and I endorse them with great joy. When I >arrive in a city to perform as pianist, I'm always comforted when I know >that I'll be performing on a Steinway. Their pianos are full of = beautiful >color in tone with the most responsive of actions. > >Alexander Frey   Hi,   For many years I wondered what the fuss was about Steinway. Well one day = I found out. In Toronto here, there is a fine little 950 seat Recital Hall, =   in North York. It is in a perfoming arts complex. The acoustics are just =   marvelous. Anyways, for various concerts, I would drag organs in, and low =   and behold, either a New York Steinway or a Hamburg Steinway would be sitting on the stage. Having some time to kill, the irresistable urge got =   to me, and I would sit down and tinkle on which ever piano was there. I must say, that a top condition Steinway, is the best I have ever come across. It just made me play better, without even trying all that hard. What a luxury, to have one of each, and the artist can pick out which one. Sadly, because of events with Livent, the outfit that ran the complex, the city of Toronto, now runs the complex, and not much happens there anymore.   It was just that for so many years, I would come across Steinways periodically, and were disappointing, that I got wondering about the name Steinway.   Cheers,   Arie V.   P.S. Other than the difference between the Ebony (New York), and the Polyester High Gloss (Hamburg), what is the difference between these pianos. They are both Steinways, but artists usually prefer one over the = other. --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_4180878= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii"   <html> At 09:49 AM 12/20/2002 -0500, you wrote:<br> <blockquote type=3Dcite cite><font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>I love = Steinways the best, particularly my own.&nbsp; It's one of the reasons why I'm a Steinway Artist and I endorse them with great joy.&nbsp; When I arrive in a city to perform as pianist, I'm always comforted when I know that I'll be performing on a Steinway.&nbsp; Their pianos are full of beautiful color in tone with the most responsive of actions.<br> <br> Alexander Frey</font><font face=3D"arial"> </blockquote><br> Hi,<br> <br> For many years I wondered what the fuss was about Steinway.&nbsp; Well one day I found out.&nbsp; In Toronto here, there is a fine little 950 seat Recital Hall, in North York.&nbsp; It is in a perfoming arts complex.&nbsp; The acoustics are just marvelous.&nbsp; Anyways, for various concerts, I would drag organs in, and low and behold, either a New York Steinway or a Hamburg Steinway would be sitting on the stage.&nbsp; Having some time to kill, the irresistable urge got to me, and I would sit down and tinkle on which ever piano was there.&nbsp; I must say, that a top condition Steinway, is the best I have ever come across.&nbsp; It just made me play better, without even trying all that hard.&nbsp; What a luxury, to have one of each, and the artist can pick out which one.&nbsp; Sadly, because of events with Livent, the outfit that ran the complex, the city of Toronto, now runs the complex, and not much happens there anymore.<br> <br> It was just that for so many years, I would come across Steinways periodically, and were disappointing, that I got wondering about the name Steinway.<br> <br> Cheers,<br> <br> Arie V.<br> <br> P.S.&nbsp; Other than the difference between the Ebony (New York), and the Polyester High Gloss (Hamburg), what is the difference between these pianos.&nbsp; They are both Steinways, but artists usually prefer one over the other.</font></html>   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_4180878= =3D=3D_.ALT--      
(back) Subject: Re: Advice for Sunday at Christian Scientist Church From: "Ray Ahrens" <Ray_Ahrens@msn.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:04:55 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000F_01C2A80F.3F31CF80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   John,   It may vary from church to church but I would test the waters and do it = =3D anyway. The congregation appreciates it in my CS church. To be safe =3D I'd stick with the more tradition carols.   Ray ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: John Jarvis=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 9:17 PM Subject: Advice for Sunday at Christian Scientist Church     I have been a regular substitute at a Christian Scientist church and =3D not having been exposed to their liturgy in the past am concerned that I = =3D not offend the congregation with me selection of songs. So far, I stuck = =3D to the standard classical literature with lots of Bach and that has gone = =3D well. For this coming Sunday (12/22), I would like to play a few =3D Christmas carols for the prelude and want to make sure that these are =3D acceptable in their tradition. Does anyone on the list play for a =3D Christian Scientist Church and would they be so kind as to shed a little = =3D information my way.         ------=3D_NextPart_000_000F_01C2A80F.3F31CF80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type =3D content=3D3Dtext/html;charset=3D3Diso-8859-1> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE>@page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in =3D 1.25in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=3D3DEN-US id=3D3DMailContainerBody=3D20 style=3D3D"FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; =3D BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; =3D BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; BORDER-LEFT-STYLE: none; TEXT-DECORATION: =3D none; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none"=3D20 vLink=3D3Dpurple link=3D3Dblue leftMargin=3D3D0 topMargin=3D3D0 =3D acc_role=3D3D"text"=3D20 CanvasTabStop=3D3D"true" name=3D3D"Compose message area"><?xml:namespace = =3D prefix=3D3D"v" /><?xml:namespace prefix=3D3D"o" /> <DIV>John,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>It may vary from church to church but I would test the waters and =3D do it=3D20 anyway.&nbsp; The congregation appreciates it in my CS church.&nbsp; To = =3D be safe=3D20 I'd stick with the more tradition carols.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Ray</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Djjarvis@attbi.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:jjarvis@attbi.com">John Jarvis</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 19, = =3D 2002 9:17=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Advice for Sunday at = =3D Christian=3D20 Scientist Church</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=3D3DSection1> <P class=3D3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 style=3D3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have been a regular = =3D substitute=3D20 at a Christian Scientist church and not having been exposed to their =3D liturgy=3D20 in the past am concerned that I not offend the congregation with me =3D selection=3D20 of songs. &nbsp;So far, I stuck to the standard classical literature =3D with lots=3D20 of Bach and that has gone well.&nbsp; For this coming Sunday (12/22), = =3D I would=3D20 like to play a few Christmas carols for the prelude and want to make =3D sure that=3D20 these are acceptable in their tradition. &nbsp;Does anyone on the list = =3D play=3D20 for a Christian Scientist Church and would they be so kind as to shed = =3D a little=3D20 information my way.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3D3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 style=3D3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =3D Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000F_01C2A80F.3F31CF80--  
(back) Subject: Steinway Memories (was Re: Grand Pianos) From: "Sand Lawn" <glawn@jam.rr.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:01:18 -0600   During the late 70's I frequently toured the country with Columbia Artists/Community Concerts as accompanist for several vocalists. These = were usually ten weeks tours, a different city each night. Usually I had a = least a few minutes to check the piano before hand. The quality was usually = good, 90% were Steinway grands. But one night due to weather I did not reach = the hall until 15 minutes prior to the concert. When I sat down to the = Steinway and played the first chord, I was instantly transported to another place. This piano was the most responsive I had ever played. When the concert = was over, all I wanted to do was to keep playing for the rest of the evening. But the state crew immediately moved the piano back to it's humidity controlled storage room. I will always remember the Steinway that the concert association of Winona, Minnesota provided for the citizens of = their community. Hats off to Winona, Minnesota   Sand Lawn   (Sorry to be so long winded.)    
(back) Subject: Re: Grand Pianos From: <FLTim@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:14:46 EST     --part1_2b.33fd62eb.2b34aa06_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   For those of you looking for a high quality European grand piano, check = out Bluthner. << http://www.bluthnerpiano.com >> Their pricing is comparable = to Steinway and they are ranked much higher in terms of quality and = performance.   The Piano Book by Larry Fine is an independent piano buyers guide that is very thorough. Here is how the different brands stack up:   1 Bosendorfer 2 Bluthner 3 August Forster 4 Steingraeber & Shone 5 Bechstein 6 Fazioli 7 Grotrain 8 Mason & Hamlin 9 Steinway & Sons 10 Baldwin: SF-10 Highest quality ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---   ------ 11 Broadwood High performance 12 Haessler (by Bluthner) 13 Sauter 14 Hoffmann (by Bechstein) 15 Walter, Charles R. (formerly Janssen) 16 Baldwin: M1, R1, L1 17 Kawai, Shigeru 18 Yamaha: S 19 Schimmel 20 Seiler 21 Petrof 22 Schulze Pollmann 23 Estonia   Cordially, Tim   --part1_2b.33fd62eb.2b34aa06_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">For those of you looking for a high quality = European grand piano, check out Bluthner.&nbsp; &lt;&lt; = http://www.bluthnerpiano.com &gt;&gt;&nbsp; Their pricing is comparable to = Steinway and they are ranked much higher in terms of quality and = performance.<BR> <BR> The Piano Book by Larry Fine is an independent piano buyers guide that is = very thorough.&nbsp; Here is how the different brands stack up:<BR> <BR> 1&nbsp;&nbsp; Bosendorfer<BR> 2&nbsp;&nbsp; Bluthner<BR> 3&nbsp;&nbsp; August Forster<BR> 4&nbsp;&nbsp; Steingraeber &amp; Shone<BR> 5&nbsp;&nbsp; Bechstein<BR> 6&nbsp;&nbsp; Fazioli<BR> 7&nbsp;&nbsp; Grotrain<BR> 8&nbsp;&nbsp; Mason &amp; Hamlin<BR> 9&nbsp;&nbsp; Steinway &amp; Sons<BR> 10&nbsp;&nbsp; Baldwin: = SF-10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs= p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&= nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Highest quality<BR> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------<BR> 11&nbsp;&nbsp; = Broadwood&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; High performance<BR> 12&nbsp; Haessler (by Bluthner)<BR> 13&nbsp;&nbsp; Sauter<BR> 14&nbsp;&nbsp; Hoffmann (by Bechstein)<BR> 15&nbsp;&nbsp; Walter, Charles R. (formerly Janssen)<BR> 16&nbsp;&nbsp; Baldwin:&nbsp; M1, R1, L1<BR> 17&nbsp;&nbsp; Kawai, Shigeru<BR> 18&nbsp;&nbsp; Yamaha: S<BR> 19&nbsp;&nbsp; Schimmel<BR> 20&nbsp;&nbsp; Seiler<BR> 21&nbsp;&nbsp; Petrof<BR> 22&nbsp;&nbsp; Schulze Pollmann<BR> 23&nbsp;&nbsp; Estonia<BR> <BR> Cordially,<BR> Tim</FONT></HTML>   --part1_2b.33fd62eb.2b34aa06_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Books From: <Kzimmer0817@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:39:01 EST     --part1_d0.31e5ab92.2b34afb5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   List,   I would like a list of the books you have found most helpful in your pipe organ building endeavors. I'm not interested in books on organ "playing" right now. I'm interested in books on the practical aspects of building = pipe organs.   I already have:   Milne, How to Build a Small Two-Manual Chamber Pipe Organ Wicks, Organbuilding for Amateurs.   I've seen (years ago): Barnes, The Contemporary American Organ Audsley, The Art of Organ Building   I've heard of: Author?, A Practical Treatise on Organ Building Author?, Heimorgelbau - the German book that has been recommended   I saw at BN.com: Jergensen?, How to Build Your Own Foot-Pumped Pipe Organ, Working Plans = for the Amateur. (of course, this one is out of print).   I've heard of several others, but i'd like to hear about which ones you've =   found practical for your projects - that have answered most of your = questions.   Thanks, Keith Zimmerman   --part1_d0.31e5ab92.2b34afb5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>List, <BR> <BR>I would like a list of the books you have found most helpful in your = pipe organ building endeavors. &nbsp;I'm not interested in books on organ = "playing" right now. &nbsp;I'm interested in books on the practical = aspects of building pipe organs. <BR> <BR>I already have: <BR> <BR>Milne, How to Build a Small Two-Manual Chamber Pipe Organ <BR>Wicks, Organbuilding for Amateurs. <BR> <BR>I've seen (years ago): <BR>Barnes, The Contemporary American Organ <BR>Audsley, The Art of Organ Building <BR> <BR>I've heard of: <BR>Author?, A Practical Treatise on Organ Building <BR>Author?, Heimorgelbau - the German book that has been recommended <BR> <BR>I saw at BN.com: <BR>Jergensen?, How to Build Your Own Foot-Pumped Pipe Organ, Working = Plans for the Amateur. &nbsp;(of course, this one is out of print). <BR> <BR>I've heard of several others, but i'd like to hear about which ones = you've found practical for your projects - that have answered most of your = questions. <BR> <BR>Thanks, <BR>Keith Zimmerman</FONT></HTML>   --part1_d0.31e5ab92.2b34afb5_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Books From: "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 19:44:39 -0600   actually Keith...the best way to learn about organ building is to work for a good reputable builder. "Book learning" is really not the way to go. There is no way you can "hear" tone from a book, no amount of description can teach you to voice/regulate pipes. Also, a great deal of what is found in books is archaic and often dogmatic at best.   Just some thoughts.   best wishes.   jon  
(back) Subject: Re: Grand Pianos From: "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 19:45:48 -0600   I'm curious how you differentiate between high quality and high performance.   Jon Bertschinger  
(back) Subject: Re: Books From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 19:59:59 -0600   Don't knock the books!! How many questions on this list could have been answered had the questioner simply cracked a book. How about books; then experience? Roy Redman   jon bertschinger wrote:   > actually Keith...the best way to learn about organ building is to > work for a good reputable builder. "Book learning" is really not > the way to go. There is no way you can "hear" tone from a book, > no amount of description can teach you to voice/regulate pipes. > Also, a great deal of what is found in books is archaic and often > dogmatic at best. > > Just some thoughts. > > best wishes. > > jon > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Books From: "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 20:32:43 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0053_01C2A866.F32DF0C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi,=3D20 I took books out of the library, anything they had, and looked them =3D over, but the way that I learned=3D20 the most was when I bought a small 4 rank organ and reworked it. =3D20 I must say though, that the books became understandable when I had the =3D real thing in front of me. Luther, ,=3D20 Date: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM Subject: Books =3D20 =3D20 List,=3D20 =3D20 I would like a list of the books you have found most helpful in your = =3D pipe organ building endeavors. I'm not interested in books on organ =3D "playing" right now. I'm interested in books on the practical aspects =3D of building pipe organs.=3D20 Keith Zimmerman=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0053_01C2A866.F32DF0C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3D3Dtext/html;charset=3D3Diso-8859-1 =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3D3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>Hi, </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>I took books out of the library, = =3D anything they=3D20 had, and looked them over, but the way that I learned </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>the most was when I bought =3D </FONT><FONT=3D20 color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>a </FONT><FONT color=3D3D#000000 = size=3D3D2>small 4 =3D rank organ and=3D20 reworked it.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>I must say though, that the books = =3D became=3D20 understandable when I had </FONT><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>the = real =3D thing in=3D20 front of me.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>Luther, , </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = =3D 5px"> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><B>Date: </B>Friday, December 20, = =3D 2002 11:40=3D20 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Books<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT=3D20 face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D3D2>List, <BR><BR>I would like a = =3D list of the=3D20 books you have found most helpful in your pipe organ building=3D20 endeavors.&nbsp; I'm not interested in books on organ =3D &quot;playing&quot;=3D20 right now. &nbsp;I'm interested in books on the practical aspects of = =3D   building pipe organs. <BR>Keith Zimmerman</FONT>=3D20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0053_01C2A866.F32DF0C0--