PipeChat Digest #3313 - Saturday, December 21, 2002
 
NEWS NEWS
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Books
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
Re: NEWS NEWS
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
Embellishments
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
Re: Books
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
O Holy Night dilemma
  by "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
Re: O Holy Night dilemma
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: O Holy Night dilemma
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Pray for 1st Pres in Oakland, CA
  by "John Jarvis" <jjarvis@attbi.com>
Books
  by <Kzimmer0817@aol.com>
Re: Embellishments
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Grand Pianos
  by <Kzimmer0817@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: NEWS NEWS From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 21:48:35 EST     --part1_d.52ccf49.2b353083_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   A point of personal privilege, that I hope you will pardon...   We received news today that our son has been accepted to the American Boychoir School in Princeton, NJ, for the 2003-2004 school year. Assuming = we can work out all the details, he will enter as a fifth-grader.   May you all have a blessed and joyous holiday season!!   Neil Brown Barnegat, NJ USA   --part1_d.52ccf49.2b353083_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">A point of personal privilege, that I hope you = will pardon...<BR> <BR> We received news today that our son has been accepted to the American = Boychoir School in Princeton, NJ, for the 2003-2004 school year.&nbsp; = Assuming we can work out all the details,&nbsp; he will enter as a = fifth-grader.<BR> <BR> May you all have a blessed and joyous holiday season!!<BR> <BR> Neil Brown<BR> Barnegat, NJ USA</FONT></HTML>   --part1_d.52ccf49.2b353083_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Books From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 21:55:30 EST     --part1_190.12b4bfe1.2b353222_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Something similar to this, my son went to Vo Tech studying electronics and =   computer repair. But, he really learned by taking a computer apart, piece = by piece, and putting it back together until it worked. He has had his own business since he was 19 (he is now 40) and still learns the new items the =   same way. He has recently become a missionary to Mexico, building = computers for the children's hospitals there so the doctors can communicate with doctors here for specialized surgery. When he installs a program for me, = he tells me to throw away the book and learn the hit a miss method. (I = mostly miss). Lee   --part1_190.12b4bfe1.2b353222_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Something similar to this, my son went to Vo = Tech studying electronics and computer repair.&nbsp; But, he really = learned by taking a computer apart, piece by piece, and putting it back = together until it worked.&nbsp; He has had his own business since he was = 19 (he is now 40) and still learns the new items the same way.&nbsp; He = has recently become a missionary to Mexico, building computers for the = children's hospitals there so the doctors can communicate with doctors = here for specialized surgery.&nbsp; When he installs a program for me, he = tells me to throw away the book and learn the hit a miss method.&nbsp; (I = mostly miss).&nbsp; Lee</FONT></HTML>   --part1_190.12b4bfe1.2b353222_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: NEWS NEWS From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 21:56:54 EST     --part1_b0.318cacd4.2b353276_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Neil, that is wonderful news. I know you are all delighted. Lee   --part1_b0.318cacd4.2b353276_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Neil, that is wonderful news.&nbsp; I know you = are all delighted.&nbsp; Lee</FONT></HTML>   --part1_b0.318cacd4.2b353276_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Embellishments From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:58:19 EST     --part1_77.52e9e55.2b3540db_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I have been re-studying the embellishments in the Bach Chorales. One book = I have says he wrote out every little note, even grace notes. Another says Bach left few directions for the interpretations. When I was taking organ =   lessons years ago, I was taught from Orgelbeuchlein edited by Riemenschneider. I played one of the chorales for another teacher, and he =   said the embellishments were all wrong, that they had been "updated." I listened to the recordings of Walcha and they were very near to what = edited by Riemenschneider, with just a few variations, which I wrote in, and = liked better. Is there one way that is correct? Or are they part of the improvisations Bach did in his day. And if they were improvisations, why = did he write them, and why don't we have those copies now? Lee   --part1_77.52e9e55.2b3540db_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I have been re-studying the embellishments in = the Bach Chorales.&nbsp; One book I have says he wrote out every little = note, even grace notes.&nbsp; Another says Bach left few directions for = the interpretations.&nbsp; When I was taking organ lessons years ago, I = was taught from Orgelbeuchlein edited by Riemenschneider.&nbsp; I played = one of the chorales for another teacher, and he said the embellishments = were all wrong, that they had been "updated."&nbsp; I listened to the = recordings of Walcha and they were very near to what edited by = Riemenschneider, with just a few variations, which I wrote in, and liked = better.&nbsp; Is there one way that is correct?&nbsp; Or are they part of = the improvisations Bach did in his day.&nbsp; And if they were = improvisations, why did he write them, and why don't we have those copies = now?&nbsp; Lee</FONT></HTML>   --part1_77.52e9e55.2b3540db_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Books From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:00:14 -0600   >Don't knock the books!! How many questions on this list could have been >answered had the questioner simply cracked a book. How about books; then >experience?   Roy   i have to agree with you - there is much ALL of us can learn from books. Even those with LOTS of experience can still learn from books.   David  
(back) Subject: O Holy Night dilemma From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:57:27 -0600   Need help on this one. We are having a carol sing at my church the Sunday following Christmas Day. 10 people requested O Holy Night ! I have never heard of doing this as a congregational "hymn".   Has anyone else on the list done this as a group?   Is there an arrangement that anyone knows about which might better suit a congregation ? Arranger and publisher info would be most helpful.   Thanks, Robert      
(back) Subject: Re: O Holy Night dilemma From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 21:33:28 -0800   It's printed that way in all the throw-away carol books the banks and the supermarkets used to give away. I don't have one handy, but surely someone does. Just play it in "C" and let the divas go for the high "G" if they wanna (grin).   Cheers,   Bud   Robert Eversman wrote: > > Need help on this one. We are having a carol sing at my church the = Sunday > following Christmas Day. 10 people requested O Holy Night ! I have = never > heard of doing this as a congregational "hymn". > > Has anyone else on the list done this as a group? > > Is there an arrangement that anyone knows about which might better suit = a > congregation ? Arranger and publisher info would be most helpful. > > Thanks, > Robert > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: O Holy Night dilemma From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 00:36:55 EST     --part1_34.323ec0ee.2b3557f7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear Bud and Robert:   It's found in Old and New 30 Christmas Carols by Gladys Pitcher G. Schirmer, Inc. Octavo # 10800. It's number 14 and perfect for a congregation written in C. I use this when ever I get a request to play it. It is written in hymn format and perfect for the organ and congregation. 1960 ed. date   Ron Severin   --part1_34.323ec0ee.2b3557f7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Dear Bud and Robert:<BR> <BR> It's found in Old and New 30 Christmas Carols by Gladys Pitcher<BR> G. Schirmer, Inc. Octavo # 10800. It's number 14 and perfect<BR> for a congregation written in C. I use this when ever I get a <BR> request to play it. It is written in hymn format and perfect for<BR> the organ and congregation. 1960 ed. date<BR> <BR> Ron Severin</FONT></HTML>   --part1_34.323ec0ee.2b3557f7_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Pray for 1st Pres in Oakland, CA From: "John Jarvis" <jjarvis@attbi.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 21:48:27 -0800   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0001_01C2A871.87C59940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I am fortunate to be taking organ lessons from Ron McKean at the 1st Presbyterian Church in Oakland, CA. They have a wonderful Rosales tracker pipe organ of about 73 ranks that is marvelous. Yesterday afternoon, the torrential rains in Northern California turned a small leak in the ceiling into a small portion of the ceiling collapsing on this wonderful instrument. Fortunately, the Pipe Tuner was inside the organ when this happened and was able to react quickly. They were able to cover many of the pipes that were most exposed but there isn't much you can do to cover a 32ft pipe in the pedal. There are days that no one goes into the sanctuary so things could have been a lot worse than they are. Everyone is afraid to turn on the organ until things have dried out for fear of shorting out the pumps and more specifically the electronic capture for the pistons. At last report, Sunday morning will be with piano only and hopes are to be able to use the organ on Christmas Eve. Let's all say a little prayer that this wonderful instrument will not have any lasting damage and that the funds will be provided to repair the roof!     ------=3D_NextPart_000_0001_01C2A871.87C59940 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <html>   <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dus-ascii">     <meta name=3D3DGenerator content=3D3D"Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)">   <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style>   </head>   <body lang=3D3DEN-US link=3D3Dblue vlink=3D3Dpurple>   <div class=3D3DSection1>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>I am fortunate to be taking organ lessons from Ron =3D McKean at the 1<sup>st</sup> Presbyterian Church in </span></font><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Oakland</span></font><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>, </span></font><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>CA</span></font><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>.&nbsp; They have a wonderful Rosales tracker pipe organ of about 73 ranks that is marvelous. &nbsp;Yesterday afternoon, the torrential rains in =3D </span></font><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Northern California</span></font><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'> turned a small leak in the ceiling into a small =3D portion of the ceiling collapsing on this wonderful instrument. &nbsp;Fortunately, = =3D the Pipe Tuner was inside the organ when this happened and was able to react quickly. They were able to cover many of the pipes that were most =3D exposed but there isn&#8217;t much you can do to cover a 32ft pipe in the pedal. =3D There are days that no one goes into the sanctuary so things could have been a lot = =3D worse than they are.&nbsp; Everyone is afraid to turn on the organ until =3D things have dried out for fear of shorting out the pumps and more specifically the electronic capture for the pistons.&nbsp; At last report, Sunday morning = =3D will be with piano only and hopes are to be able to use the organ on =3D Christmas Eve.&nbsp; Let&#8217;s all say a little prayer that this wonderful instrument will =3D not have any lasting damage and that the funds will be provided to repair =3D the roof!</span></font></p>   </div>   </body>   </html>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0001_01C2A871.87C59940--    
(back) Subject: Books From: <Kzimmer0817@aol.com> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 01:11:24 EST     --part1_32.31b39e72.2b35600c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   List,   Thanks for the comments thus far - from Jon, Roy, and Luther. Actually, while they appear to contradict each other, they are quite compatible.   I agree with Jon that nothing can substitute for OTJ training. I kidded Bruce Cornely a while back when he was describing some organ stops for me = - it sounded a lot like "wine tasters" critiques. You can't get a great = idea of how a stop sounds by hearing words like "silvery", "broader", "more fluid", etc. For that aspect of it, I agree with Jon; you have to hear = those sounds for yourself. In order for me to get some of my questions = regarding tracker organs answered, I'll have to crawl around in and around several small trackers. Looking at schematics and cross sections in books helps somewhat, but it doesn't show how all these elements - keyboard, = backfalls, trackers, stickers, coupler mechanisms, etc. - all fit together and how = they are attached to the chassis. In my business (medicine), you want somebody =   operating on you who's actually been "there" many times, not just one = who's read lots of books about your particular operation.   But, as Roy and Luther said, they learned a lot from the books. I've = studied the Milne and Wicks books thru and thru. That may be fine for learning principals of windchest layout and how to determine their dimensions. = I've learned a lot about the various actions (forgotten a lot, too).   I would love to have some schematics with some measurements of various tracker organs showing how all the components fit together. How in the = world does Oberlinger fit 14 ranks into a small tracker organ barely 3 ft. deep?!?!? I don't think the folks at the college in Atlanta that has an Oberlinger (I forget which college) would let me remove a few panels and = go over it in detail.   I would love to spend some time with an organbuilder - whether tracker or not. I have Wednesdays off, so that would be great. I'd be glad to pay = an organbuilder for periodic consultations to look at my organ, show me what needed to be done, show me how to do it, but let me do most of the work. = I'd like to learn some general principals of organbuilding as well. I'll = never be any competition to a reputable organbuilder.   I had tho't about approaching an organbuilder to (1) analyze my needs and space, (2) help me plan out an appropriate pipe organ, and (3) draw up the =   specs which would include pipe scales, layouts of windchests, plans for casework, detailed drawings, etc. That would then give me a plan that I could work out with occasional follow-up consultations.   The only organbuilders near me - as far as I know - are Phil Parkey in Atlanta and Art Schlueter in Lithonia (just E of Atlanta). I met Phil for =   lunch a few years ago and talked organ. I'm just really timid about = asking professionals to help me do too much stuff on my own since this is how = they make their living. I had a delightful afternoon talking organ with Allan Ontko, but he's 6.5 hrs away in Charleston. Rich has tried for 5 years to =   get me to have him set me up with an organ, but he's 12 hrs away near Chicago. Jon is even farther up north - I think.   Anyway, enough whining. I have a pipe organ in the basement now waiting = to be put back together. Then I can start deciding what changes I want to = make to it.   Thanks for the advice. BTW, does anybody have an extra copy of = Heimorgelbau they'd be willing to sell?   Merry Christmas, Keith Zimmerman, M.D. Commerce, Georgia   --part1_32.31b39e72.2b35600c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">List,<BR> <BR> Thanks for the comments thus far - from Jon, Roy, and Luther.&nbsp; = Actually, while they appear to contradict each other, they are quite = compatible.<BR> <BR> I agree with Jon that nothing can substitute for OTJ training.&nbsp; I kidded Bruce Cornely a while back = when he was describing some organ stops for me - it sounded a lot like = "wine tasters" critiques.&nbsp; You can't get a great idea of how a stop = sounds by hearing words like "silvery", "broader", "more fluid", = etc.&nbsp; For that aspect of it, I agree with Jon; you have to hear those = sounds for yourself.&nbsp; In order for me to get some of my questions = regarding tracker organs answered, I'll have to crawl around in and around = several small trackers.&nbsp; Looking at schematics and cross sections in = books helps somewhat, but it doesn't show how all these elements - = keyboard, backfalls, trackers, stickers, coupler mechanisms, etc. - all = fit together and how they are attached to the chassis.&nbsp; In my = business (medicine), you want somebody operating on you who's actually = been "there" many times, not just one who's read lots of books about your = particular operation.&nbsp; <BR> <BR> But, as Roy and Luther said, they learned a lot from the books.&nbsp; I've = studied the Milne and Wicks books thru and thru.&nbsp; That may be fine = for learning principals of windchest layout and how to determine their = dimensions.&nbsp; I've learned a lot about the various actions (forgotten = a lot, too).<BR> <BR> I would love to have some schematics with some measurements of various = tracker organs showing how all the components fit together.&nbsp; How in = the world does Oberlinger fit 14 ranks into a small tracker organ barely 3 = ft. deep?!?!?&nbsp; I don't think the folks at the college in Atlanta that = has an Oberlinger (I forget which college) would let me remove a few = panels and go over it in detail.<BR> <BR> I would love to spend some time with an organbuilder - whether tracker or = not.&nbsp; I have Wednesdays off, so that would be great.&nbsp; I'd be = glad to pay an organbuilder for periodic consultations to look at my = organ, show me what needed to be done, show me how to do it, but let me do = most of the work. I'd like to learn some general principals of = organbuilding as well.&nbsp; I'll never be any competition to a reputable = organbuilder.<BR> <BR> I had tho't about approaching an organbuilder to (1) analyze my needs and = space, (2) help me plan out an appropriate pipe organ, and (3) draw up the = specs which would include pipe scales, layouts of windchests, plans for = casework, detailed drawings, etc.&nbsp; That would then give me a plan = that I could work out with occasional follow-up consultations.<BR> <BR> The only organbuilders near me - as far as I know - are Phil Parkey in = Atlanta and Art Schlueter in Lithonia (just E of Atlanta).&nbsp; I met = Phil for lunch a few years ago and talked organ.&nbsp; I'm just really = timid about asking professionals to help me do too much stuff on my own = since this is how they make their living.&nbsp; I had a delightful = afternoon talking organ with Allan Ontko, but he's 6.5 hrs away in = Charleston.&nbsp; Rich has tried for 5 years to get me to have him set me = up with an organ, but he's 12 hrs away near Chicago.&nbsp; Jon is even = farther up north - I think.<BR> <BR> Anyway, enough whining.&nbsp; I have a pipe organ in the basement now = waiting to be put back together.&nbsp; Then I can start deciding what = changes I want to make to it.<BR> <BR> Thanks for the advice.&nbsp; BTW, does anybody have an extra copy of = Heimorgelbau they'd be willing to sell?<BR> <BR> Merry Christmas,<BR> Keith Zimmerman, M.D.<BR> Commerce, Georgia</FONT></HTML>   --part1_32.31b39e72.2b35600c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Embellishments From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 01:12:04 EST     --part1_1a9.e16c846.2b356034_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear Lee:   With Bach, and embellishments, just follow your heart. If Riemenschneider works for you, use it. Anybody who comes up to you and says your trills are all wrong, or there's new infromation, they are full it. Look them up and down once or twice and say, "I think I prefer these, but thanks for the input." Nobody is really 100% sure about how Bach played, his registrations, or how he ornamented his music. J. S. Bach's sons took care of that, giving his music away to wrap cheese and meat in. Reason: The old man's music is old fashioned, and nobody would want to play it anyway. They were wrong obviously, and thanks to his students most of Bach's music exists second hand, very few in Bach's own hand. Riemenschneider edition is as good as any. I've heard this carping nonsense from wanna be experts to the point it makes me want to hurl.   Follow your heart,   Ron Severin     --part1_1a9.e16c846.2b356034_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Dear Lee:<BR> <BR> With Bach, and embellishments, just follow your heart.<BR> If Riemenschneider works for you, use it. Anybody who<BR> comes up to you and says your trills are all wrong, or there's<BR> new infromation, they are full it. Look them up and down<BR> once or twice and say, "I think I prefer these, but thanks for<BR> the input." Nobody is really 100% sure about how Bach<BR> played, his registrations, or how he ornamented his music.<BR> J. S. Bach's sons took care of that, giving his music away to<BR> wrap cheese and meat in. Reason: The old man's music is<BR> old fashioned, and nobody would want to play it anyway.<BR> They were wrong obviously, and thanks to his students most<BR> of Bach's music exists second hand, very few in Bach's own hand.<BR> Riemenschneider edition is as good as any. I've heard this<BR> carping nonsense from wanna be experts to the point it makes<BR> me want to hurl.<BR> <BR> Follow your heart,<BR> <BR> Ron Severin</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: = #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1a9.e16c846.2b356034_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Grand Pianos From: <Kzimmer0817@aol.com> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 01:23:01 EST     --part1_76.278d7afc.2b3562c5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   List,   I have a Steinway model B from about 1926 (S/N 264260). I traded my 5' 8" =   Knabe (that I had acquired in a bid) to a friend who had come upon this Steinway (unbeknownst to his wife) plus an amount of cash. Apparently, it =   was previously in a college and was pretty ragged out.   A craftsman had refinished most of it, cleaned the action, replaced the = pin block, pins, and strings. The sound board was OK.   My Knabe was a nice little grand. It was quite bright. A couple notes = went out of tune fairly easily. It had been a factory player, so my son liked = to play with the backs of the keys from underneath while I was practicing.   When I visited this Steinway in the shop, the think that impressed me was = the bass. It's not the same as my piano teacher's 9' Steinway (that was 25 = years ago), though. As I sat and played this model B, I could "feel" the bass hitting me in the gut. Even when played fairly softly, I could feel or = sense the base even if it wasn't audibly powerful at the moment. The guy who rebuilt this piano was impressed by how well it was holding its tune. He said that it often took about 5 tunings to hold after replacing a pin = block; this one was holding after 2!! It hasn't been tuned in 2 years and is = just now starting to ask for it.   Anyway, I'd like to find somebody who's good at voicing Steinways. I'm = about 65 miles NE of Atlanta - between Atlanta and Greenville. There are about = 3 adjacent notes (around the c above mid. c) that are noticeably louder/brighter than most of the others in that range. It's annoying = during solo passages to have to remember to strike those keys more softly. I = tried to demonstrate it to the rebuilder, but he couldn't really appreciate the different as I showed him.   Thanks, Keith   --part1_76.278d7afc.2b3562c5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">List,<BR> <BR> I have a Steinway model B from about 1926 (S/N 264260).&nbsp; I traded my = 5' 8" Knabe (that I had acquired in a bid) to a friend who had come upon = this Steinway (unbeknownst to his wife) plus an amount of cash.&nbsp; = Apparently, it was previously in a college and was pretty ragged out.<BR> <BR> A craftsman had refinished most of it, cleaned the action, replaced the = pin block, pins, and strings.&nbsp; The sound board was OK.<BR> <BR> My Knabe was a nice little grand.&nbsp; It was quite bright.&nbsp; A = couple notes went out of tune fairly easily.&nbsp; It had been a factory = player, so my son liked to play with the backs of the keys from underneath = while I was practicing.<BR> <BR> When I visited this Steinway in the shop, the think that impressed me was = the bass.&nbsp; It's not the same as my piano teacher's 9' Steinway (that = was 25 years ago), though.&nbsp; As I sat and played this model B, I could = "feel" the bass hitting me in the gut.&nbsp; Even when played fairly = softly, I could feel or sense the base even if it wasn't audibly powerful = at the moment.&nbsp; The guy who rebuilt this piano was impressed by how = well it was holding its tune.&nbsp; He said that it often took about 5 = tunings to hold after replacing a pin block; this one was holding after = 2!!&nbsp; It hasn't been tuned in 2 years and is just now starting to ask = for it.<BR> <BR> Anyway, I'd like to find somebody who's good at voicing Steinways.&nbsp; = I'm about 65 miles NE of Atlanta - between Atlanta and Greenville.&nbsp; = There are about 3 adjacent notes (around the c above mid. c) that are = noticeably louder/brighter than most of the others in that range.&nbsp; = It's annoying during solo passages to have to remember to strike those = keys more softly.&nbsp; I tried to demonstrate it to the rebuilder, but he = couldn't really appreciate the different as I showed him.<BR> <BR> Thanks,<BR> Keith</FONT></HTML>   --part1_76.278d7afc.2b3562c5_boundary--