PipeChat Digest #3318 - Monday, December 23, 2002
 
Re: Tierce from Undulating Rank
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Lessons and Carols
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Christmas greetings
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Organ Christmas Cards
  by "John Nisbet" <oberlingerusa@msn.com>
Re: Lessons and Carols
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Tierce from Undulating Rank From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 00:49:14 EST     --part1_17a.1402a840.2b37fdda_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear Kieth:   If you check the specifications of St. Patrick's Cathedral, Atlantic City Auditorium, and Wanamakers etc. that Mutations of Quint and Tierce were used for derived celestes and unda maris's. Especially Atlantic City. The Tierce was a unit rank from which the unda maris is derived and the Quint likewise a celeste. You are on the right track, but have the concept a bit backwards. These were extended ranks of soft dulciana, erzahler, gemshorn mutations which were used for celestes and unda maris's   I saw this a long time ago, and wondered why organ builders didn't use this idea more on smaller organs. I brought this up before, but everybody stuck up their nose at it. To me, it makes perfect sense to unify this way.   Your title should be Undulating rank from Tierce or Quint. It's amazing how effective doing this can be. The quints went from 21 1/3', 10 2/3' , 5 1/3' , 2 2/3', 1 1/3' The tierces went from 12 4/5' , 6 2/5' 3 1/5' 1 3/5, 4/5' You can see how they derived the undulating ranks all the way to the bottom CC. The mutations were paired with unison ranks of the same scale and quality. You can also see how they would work in the 16' range as well on these big organs. It can be done on small unit organs too.   Ron Severin   --part1_17a.1402a840.2b37fdda_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Dear Kieth:<BR> <BR> If you check the specifications of St. Patrick's Cathedral,<BR> Atlantic City Auditorium, and Wanamakers etc. that<BR> Mutations of Quint and Tierce were used for derived<BR> celestes and unda maris's. Especially Atlantic City.<BR> The Tierce was a unit rank from which the unda maris<BR> is derived and the Quint likewise a celeste. You are on the<BR> right track, but have the concept a bit backwards. These<BR> were extended ranks of soft dulciana, erzahler, gemshorn<BR> mutations which were used for celestes and unda maris's<BR> <BR> I saw this a long time ago, and wondered why organ builders<BR> didn't use this idea more on smaller organs. I brought this up<BR> before, but everybody stuck up their nose at it. To me, it<BR> makes perfect sense to unify this way.<BR> <BR> Your title should be Undulating rank from Tierce or Quint.<BR> It's amazing how effective doing this can be.<BR> The quints went from 21 1/3', 10 2/3' , 5 1/3' , 2 2/3', 1 1/3'<BR> The tierces went from&nbsp; 12 4/5' , 6 2/5' 3 1/5' 1 3/5, 4/5'<BR> You can see how they derived the undulating ranks all the<BR> way to the bottom CC. The mutations were paired with unison<BR> ranks of the same scale and quality. You can also see how<BR> they would work in the 16' range as well on these big organs.<BR> It can be done on small unit organs too.<BR> <BR> Ron Severin</FONT></HTML>   --part1_17a.1402a840.2b37fdda_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Lessons and Carols From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 06:09:02 +0000 (GMT)   Hello,   It's all to do with Schleswig-Holstein moving from one country to another if I recall correctly.....could be the Beer though!   A few cans of Holsten-Pils, and you too can call Buxtehude "Dider-hic!"   Getting into the party mood.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK --- Alan Freed <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> wrote: > On 12/22/02 9:45 AM, "Samuel Metzger" > <samuel.metzger@christpreschurch.org> > wrote: > > > Who is Diderik Buxtehude? > > Swedish feller, as I recall. Son of an organ player > feller. He himself > became an organ player of some notoriety, in > Denmark. When people moved > back and forth across national boundaries, or the > boundaries moved back and > forth beneath the people, in those days, names got > changed orthographically > a LOT. And even without such changes, spellings of > names and such was a > VERY imprecise science in those days. You=B9ve heard > of Martin Luder, and > Georg F----- Haendl and all that stuff? George > Wessington, our first > president? > > There ARE conventions=8Bbut remember that there are > MULTIPLE conventions. > > Alan > > P.S.: =B3Metzger=B2 looks fairly stable, but =B3Samuel=B2 > has DEFINITELY been spelt > in ways utterly unrecognizable to you or me (no > letters from the Latin > alphabet, for starters=8Bgood luck). > >   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Christmas greetings From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 06:20:31 +0000 (GMT)   May all pipechat members, and those that they love, have a happy, peaceful and joyous Christmas.   + (o) (o( )o) ((((o)))) (((o( )o))) (o((((o))))o) ((o( )o)) ll ll   Colin Mitchell UK   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Organ Christmas Cards From: "John Nisbet" <oberlingerusa@msn.com> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 02:30:35 -0500   Dear List:   The always popular Oberlinger e-cards for sending your Christmas greetings are still available. Just go to the USA Portal of the site: http://www.oberlinger.com/usa , and click on the postage-stamp icon on the bottom of the right-hand column of photos. Simply follow the directions to customize a musical, organic greeting!   Merry Christmas!   John Nisbet Oberlinger USA      
(back) Subject: Re: Lessons and Carols From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 02:44:23 EST     --part1_1a1.de06fbd.2b3818d7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear Colin:   A story I heard recently about Buxtehude is that people of his time used to snicker whenever his last name was mentioned. Reason: So the story goes there was an insane asylum in Buxtehude, germany somewhere, and it ment you were bonkers if you had that name. Any scholars out there, that can confirm this.   Just for Colin!   Ron Severin   --part1_1a1.de06fbd.2b3818d7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Dear Colin:<BR> <BR> A story I heard recently about Buxtehude is that people of his<BR> time used to snicker whenever his last name was mentioned.<BR> Reason: So the story goes there was an insane asylum<BR> in Buxtehude, germany somewhere, and it ment you were<BR> bonkers if you had that name. Any scholars out there, that<BR> can confirm this.<BR> <BR> Just for Colin!<BR> <BR> Ron Severin</FONT></HTML>   --part1_1a1.de06fbd.2b3818d7_boundary--