PipeChat Digest #3319 - Monday, December 23, 2002
 
RE: Tierce from Undulating Rank
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
IRC Reminder
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: Lessons and Carols
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
CELESTE TUNING
  by "D. Keith Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com>
St. Georges New Pipe Organ instalation Pictures
  by "danielwh1" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca>
Indi Cathedral Organ (X-Post)
  by "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com>
Undulating Tierce
  by <Kzimmer0817@aol.com>
Midnight Mass, Nativity RC, NJ
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
Re: Tierce from Undulating Rank
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Undulating Tierce
  by "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com>
Celestial banquet
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: soundfonts
  by "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>
Re:- Soundfonts
  by "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Tierce from Undulating Rank From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:12:50 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0006_01C2AA5B.16240380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit     1. Is there a standard for how far off pitch a Celeste or Unda Maris is tuned. Just short of awful sounding.   2. Is a Celeste rank actually in tune with itself - but simply each note being a fixed amout off tune from the rank with which it will be played? Sometimes I set a temperament for a celeste so it's in tune with itself = and about 15 cents sharp. Sometimes I tune it, note by note against the = subject rank (gamba) until the sound pleases me and to heck with the Celeste being in tune with itself. Depends how I feel at the time and the type of organ = I' m working on.     3. In creating an undulating rank, is it possible to "detune" the undulating rank such that its quint would be a perfect fifth from the rank with which it would be paired as a celeste. When played at the 1 3/5' pitch, it will form a proper Tierce; when played at 8', it will undulate. I suppose you could but if you had the talent and the wherewithal to do it = I 'd hope you'd apply it towards some other worthy endevour like, perhaps, creating a new form of pavement that eliminates traffic congestion. 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Sometimes I tune it, note by note against the subject rank =3D (gamba) until the sound pleases me and to heck with the Celeste being in tune with =3D itself. Depends how I feel at the time and the type of organ I&#8217;m working =3D on.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal style=3D3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3D2 =3D color=3D3Dblack face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><br> <br> 3.&nbsp; In creating an undulating rank, is it possible to =3D &quot;detune&quot; the undulating rank such that its quint would be a perfect fifth from =3D the rank with which it would be paired as a celeste.&nbsp; When played at the 1 =3D 3/5' pitch, it will form a proper Tierce; when played at 8', it will =3D undulate.</span></font><font size=3D3D2 color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal style=3D3D'margin-left:.5in'><span =3D class=3D3DEmailStyle15><font size=3D3D2 color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I suppose you could but if you had the talent = =3D and the wherewithal to do it I&#8217;d hope you&#8217;d apply it towards some =3D other worthy endevour like, perhaps, creating a new form of pavement that eliminates traffic congestion</span></font></span><font size=3D3D2 color=3D3Dblack =3D face=3D3DArial><span style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>.</span></font><= =3D font size=3D3D2 color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><span class=3D3DEmailStyle15><font size=3D3D2 =3D color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3DArial><span style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Aj= =3D M<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal style=3D3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3D2 =3D color=3D3Dblack face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><br> <br> Thanks,<br> Keith</span></font><font color=3D3Dblack><span =3D style=3D3D'color:black;mso-color-alt: windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   </div>   </body>   </html>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0006_01C2AA5B.16240380--    
(back) Subject: IRC Reminder From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 07:45:04 -0600   Just a quick reminder that the PipeChat IRC group will be meeting this evening as it does every Monday and Friday nights. Chat begins at 9:00 PM EASTERN time.   I know that many folks will be getting ready for Christmas but if you have a few minutes or need a break from all the craziness of getting ready for Wednesday please join us.   If you need instructions fro how to join in please go to the PipeChat IRC pages beginning at: http://www.pipechat.org/irc.html   Hope to see you tonight   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Lessons and Carols From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 07:51:12 -0600   Thanks for the URL; I took a look at the music list of King Henry VI's aptly-named College of Our Lady & St. Nick in Cambridge, but a couple of things puzzled me.   The first voluntary is listed as Bach's Prelude and Fugue in G BWV 547. -- Would this be the Prelude and Fugue in C BWV 547 or the Prelude and Fugue in G BWV 541?   I was also intrigued by the carol newly composed for this year's service by Robin Holloway. It contains the line: "a puny baby lulled on his mother?x2019;s breast,". Is this some kind of first-century Palestinian cup size, and if so, what units is the dimension given in?   John Speller    
(back) Subject: CELESTE TUNING From: "D. Keith Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 06:45:21 -0800 (PST)   Celeste tuning is something to which you cannot apply a definite rule. Small-scaled strings want to beat very rapidly; large-scaled strings want to beat much slower. You have to let a string do what it wants to do, more or less.   When I have tuned a celeste, I play some music on it, and if it needs to be faster or slower, I can go over it again in about five minutes. I never set a temperament on a celeste, or go by any "x beats per minute" theory.   Celeste ranks are absolutely useless for any purpose other than undulating with their unison rank, so it doesn't matter whether or not the temperament is perfect. Also, I tune all celestes sharp; never flat, including the so-called "Unda Maris". They sound better to me tuned sharp. Exceptions occur in organs that have three-rank celestes, or more than two celestes, but such organs are very few and far between. Also, I'm not familiar with Tierces derived from celeste ranks. Then, an acceptable temperament would be desirable.   One church where I tune has a loud celeste, and the "organist" has never been able to understand (in 40 years) what a celeste is, so it is on most pistons with the mixtures. I tune that celeste beatless to the 4' Principal. The organ doesn't so out-of-tune now.   D. Keith Morgan     __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: St. Georges New Pipe Organ instalation Pictures From: "danielwh1" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:24:19 -0400   Here as I promised is the webpage that St Georges Round Church has put = up regarding the new Pipe Organ just installed a few weeks ago. In Halifax NS This Organ is Beautiful, I got to play it and also had a beautiful demonstration which I recorded on my Laptop here is the link to the webpage containing the pictures http://users.eastlink.ca/~stgeorge/music/neworgan.html Hope you all Enjoy, Merry Christmas p.s. the Original organ was a Walker mechanical action, rebuilt by Casavant in 1913 converted to Tubular and then again after the Halifax Explosion converted to Electro in 1918 , and then Restored by Letourneau around 1993-1994 and destroyed by fire in June 1994, Church restored 1997 and = New Organ installed in 2002     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 06/12/2002    
(back) Subject: Indi Cathedral Organ (X-Post) From: "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:44:50 -0600   Hello! Can anyone give me information about the organ at the Cathedral of Saints Peter and Paul in Indianapolis, IN?         Christmas Blessings, Beau Surratt, Organist St. Peter's UCC, Elmhurst,IL Organ Performance Major, Northern Illinois University, DeKalb,IL      
(back) Subject: Undulating Tierce From: <Kzimmer0817@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:40:23 EST     --part1_117.1ca1d1eb.2b38b297_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   List,   Bruce was the first to correct me regarding my question about deriving the =   Tierce from an undulating rank. His correction is that the Tierce is = tuned a major "third" not a "fifth". I really knew that, I just wasn't thinking. = I understood that when you play a "c" with the 12th or 19th drawn that = you're really playing a "g" and that you're playing an "e" when the 1 3/5 is = drawn.   That does bring up another question for clarification. About 5 years ago when I first subscribed to piporg-l and pipechat, I posed a question about =   the composition of the Cornet. A point that was emphacized at that time = was the importance of the Tierce rank of 1 3/5 - that it was tuned a "perfect" =   interval from the unison. IOW, one didn't tune the Tierce pipe that would =   play if "c" were pressed to the "e" 2 1/2 octaves above the unison, = because that "e" would be tempered.   That seemed to hint that this "perfect interval from unison" was something =   unique to the Tierce, and that was why it was not successfully derived = from another rank. IOW, derivation from another rank was OK for the 2 2/3 and = 1 1/3, but not for the 1 3/5. Later, in a discussion of mutations, it was mentioned that all mutations "should" be tuned a perfect interval from the =   unison.   I wonder if part of the unique sound of the pipe organ that's difficult to =   recreate electronically is due to the fact that the tuning of the ranks is =   tempered, but the harmonics created by an individual pipe is perfect. = When one plays a C & G together, one is playing an imperfect fifth. But..... = the 2nd harmonic of the "C" is a "g", but it's not the octave of the same "g" = as the one being played by pressing the "G" key. So, there's a beating = occuring between the actual "g" being pressed and the 2nd harmonic of the "c" = that's being pressed.   The "theory" or "physics" involved in using mutations, esp. 12th and 19th = has to do with accenting certain harmonics (or is that the purpose of = mixtures). Does that mean that these mutations are used to "supply" or "emphacize" certain notes of the scale in which a piece is being played, or are they = used to emphacize the harmonics of the notes being played. In the former, I = would think that they could be derived from existing ranks, if the latter, then = I can see that deriving them wouldn't work.   Anyway, I wanted to correct my statement, even tho' I think y'all knew = what I was trying to ask, as well as pose this additional question.   Thanks, Keith   --part1_117.1ca1d1eb.2b38b297_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>List, <BR> <BR>Bruce was the first to correct me regarding my question about deriving = the Tierce from an undulating rank. &nbsp;His correction is that the = Tierce is tuned a major "third" not a "fifth". &nbsp;I really knew that, I = just wasn't thinking. &nbsp;I understood that when you play a "c" with the = 12th or 19th drawn that you're really playing a "g" and that you're = playing an "e" when the 1 3/5 is drawn. <BR> <BR>That does bring up another question for clarification. &nbsp;About 5 = years ago when I first subscribed to piporg-l and pipechat, I posed a = question about the composition of the Cornet. &nbsp;A point that was = emphacized at that time was the importance of the Tierce rank of 1 3/5 - = that it was tuned a "perfect" interval from the unison. &nbsp;IOW, one = didn't tune the Tierce pipe that would play if "c" were pressed to the "e" = 2 1/2 octaves above the unison, because that "e" would be tempered. <BR> <BR>That seemed to hint that this "perfect interval from unison" was = something unique to the Tierce, and that was why it was not successfully = derived from another rank. &nbsp;IOW, derivation from another rank was OK = for the 2 2/3 and 1 1/3, but not for the 1 3/5. &nbsp;Later, in a = discussion of mutations, it was mentioned that all mutations "should" be tuned a perfect interval from the unison. <BR> <BR>I wonder if part of the unique sound of the pipe organ that's = difficult to recreate electronically is due to the fact that the tuning of = the ranks is tempered, but the harmonics created by an individual pipe is = perfect. &nbsp;When one plays a C &amp; G together, one is playing an = imperfect fifth. &nbsp;But..... the 2nd harmonic of the "C" is a "g", but = it's not the octave of the same "g" as the one being played by pressing = the "G" key. &nbsp;So, there's a beating occuring between the actual "g" = being pressed and the 2nd harmonic of the "c" that's being pressed. <BR> <BR>The "theory" or "physics" involved in using mutations, esp. 12th and = 19th has to do with accenting certain harmonics (or is that the purpose of = mixtures). &nbsp;Does that mean that these mutations are used to "supply" = or "emphacize" certain notes of the scale in which a piece is being = played, or are they used to emphacize the harmonics of the notes being = played. &nbsp;In the former, I would think that they could be derived from = existing ranks, if the latter, then I can see that deriving them wouldn't = work. <BR> <BR>Anyway, I wanted to correct my statement, even tho' I think y'all knew = what I was trying to ask, as well as pose this additional question. <BR> <BR>Thanks, <BR>Keith</FONT></HTML>   --part1_117.1ca1d1eb.2b38b297_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Midnight Mass, Nativity RC, NJ From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:18:39 EST   Church of the Nativity Fair Haven, NJ The Rev. Jerome Nolan, Pastor Peter R. Isherwood, Organist and Choirmaster   Solemn Mass and Blessing of the Creche 24 December, 9 o'clock in the evening   Prelude: Sussex Carol, Wilcox (Choir) In The Bleak Midwinter, Holst (Choir) I Wonder as I Wander, Niles (Solo) Of the Father's Love Begotten, (Choir) Gesu Bambino, (Solo) O Holy Night, Adam (Solo)   Gathering Carol: Adeste Fidelis (Cong)   Kyrie: Chant   Gloria: St. Thomas, Peter Jones   Psalm: Gelineau   Gospel: Gelineau   Offertory: Hark The Herald Angels Sing (Cong)   Sanctus, Memorial, Amen, Agnus: Mass of Creation, Haugen   Communion: O Little Town of Bethlehem (Cong) While Shehpards Watched Their Flocks, Handel (Solo) Angels Carol, Rutter   Closing Carol: Joy to the World (Cong)   Postlude: In Dulci Jubilo, Bach  
(back) Subject: Re: Tierce from Undulating Rank From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:53:52 +1300   Uusually, in fact in all the organs I've ever tried, string celestes are tuned sharp, and flutes always flat. Dulcianas (the real English kind) can be tuned either way. A Dulciana Celeste is normally known as Vox Angelica.   In my experience, a Celeste sounds infinitely better if all notes are = tuned to the rank the Celeste is to beat with, so you get the same beating speed all the way up. If you tune the Celeste in octaves to itself, it will be beat faster as you ascend and it creates an ugly sound.   Sometimes, people have extended mutations down and made Celestes of them. = It can work well in some acoustic situations, but I don't think a general = rule can be made about it. On a local organ here, there is a 6 2/5 Tierce on = the Great, taken off a Dulciana Celeste. It actually works very well in that organ, placement and acoustic, to the surprise of all of us, including the organist who asked for it. It adds a certain gravitas to full Great of 16, 8, 4, 2 2/3, 2, and Mixture.   Ross -----Original Message----- From: Kzimmer0817@aol.com <Kzimmer0817@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Monday, December 23, 2002 4:42 PM Subject: Tierce from Undulating Rank     List,   There are probably problems with this concept, but I'd like to ask if anybody has tried this before with success. I understand that, for the Tierce 1 3/5' to form a proper Cornet, it must be tuned a perfect fifth. Therefore, it cannot be successfully derived from a unified rank.   The recommendation was made to me to take an undulating rank and derive the Tierce from it.   I "think" that the intervals are flattened slightly in Well-Tempered tuning. I'm not familiar enough with tuning to know if all the various intervals (except the octaves, of course) are "tempered" to the same = degree. I understand that some undulating ranks are tuned slightly flat and others slightly sharp.   1. Is there a standard for how far off pitch a Celeste or Unda Maris is tuned.   2. Is a Celeste rank actually in tune with itself - but simply each = note being a fixed amout off tune from the rank with which it will be played?   3. In creating an undulating rank, is it possible to "detune" the undulating rank such that its quint would be a perfect fifth from the rank with which it would be paired as a celeste. When played at the 1 3/5' pitch, it will form a proper Tierce; when played at 8', it will undulate.   I'd appreciate your comments.   Thanks, Keith    
(back) Subject: Re: Undulating Tierce From: "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:23:13 -0600   Keith & list:   We often derive our Tierces from our "celestes" in our smaller organs. Whenever possible the 2 2/3' is a separate rank, for reason of "pure tuning" with the unisons of the organ. However, when tuning the Tierce, it results in a "flatted celeste" or Unda Maris. Good temperaments usually create a celeste then with it's companion stop of a good and pretty even "beat rate" from note to note. The stop we use for this purpose is usually a Gemshorn. In a small organ for a full compass Tierce that means 77+ pipes (t.c.) in the celeste, depending upon repeat in the top octave.   Jon Bertschinger Tonal Director Temple Organs Saint Joseph, MO (North Kansas City area)     Fine custom pipe organs since 1953.  
(back) Subject: Celestial banquet From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:53:08 +0000 (GMT)   Hello,   Mmmmmm! An interesting concept!   Where are we expected to walk if the traffic takes to the pavement?   We'd all end up like squashed Toma(r)toes!   :))   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- Andrew Mead <mead@eagle.ca> wrote: > When > played at the 1 3/5' > pitch, it will form a proper Tierce; when played at > 8', it will undulate. > I suppose you could but if you had the talent and > the wherewithal to do it I > 'd hope you'd apply it towards some other worthy > endevour like, perhaps, > creating a new form of pavement that eliminates > traffic congestion.     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: soundfonts From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:37:10 -0000   The Theatre Organ soundfont (by the late Doug McMurry) was available on = the Hammersound site - the links are now not functional.   SFAIK the only theatre organ soundfonts now generally available are those = on my website ('Cinema Organ') below. Also available the 'English Organ'.   They are free to download for non-commercial use. I hope they are of interest.   Bruce Miles   website - http://www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk/index.html   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Lyon" <> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 11:17 PM Subject: soundfonts     > I came across a message from Theatreorgans-L that I had printed and > promptly misplaced. The print date is 12/4/01 and the subject was > "McMurry Soundfont." They were placed on pipechat.org for others to > download. I just subscribed so can someone tell me if they are still > available and how to access them. > > Thanks. > > Bill Lyon > Digital Artisan owner >    
(back) Subject: Re:- Soundfonts From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:17:58 -0000   For Bill Lyon,   The Theatre Organ soundfont (by the late Doug McMurry) was available on = the Hammersound site - although still listed the links are now non-functional.   SFAIK the only theatre organ soundfonts now generally available are those = on my website ('Cinema Organ') below. Also the 'English Organ' soundfont.   They are free to download for non-commercial use. I hope they are of interest.   Bruce Miles   website - http://www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk/index.html   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Lyon" <> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 11:17 PM Subject: soundfonts     > I came across a message from Theatreorgans-L that I had printed and > promptly misplaced. The print date is 12/4/01 and the subject was > "McMurry Soundfont." They were placed on pipechat.org for others to > download. I just subscribed so can someone tell me if they are still > available and how to access them. > > Thanks. > > Bill Lyon > Digital Artisan owner