PipeChat Digest #3329 - Friday, December 27, 2002
 
RE: Which Harmonic
  by "Harry E. Martenas" <harrym@epix.net>
Re: Beginning organ student
  by "Teah" <teahzg@charter.net>
Re: HTML Workaround for AOL
  by "Peter Harrison" <peter@phmusic.co.uk>
Re: Beginning organ student
  by "r" <basset3@hvc.rr.com>
Re: Beginning organ student
  by "Paul R. Swank" <prswank@surfbest.net>
Re: Beginning organ student
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: HTML Workaround for AOL
  by "Mark Koontz" <markkoontz@yahoo.com>
Re: Which Harmonic
  by "Steve Chandler" <stevec@open-tech.com>
RE: Which Harmonic
  by "David Smit" <DavidS@astrolabegroup.com>
HTML
  by <Wuxuzusu@aol.com>
Re: "derived" Tierces, etc.
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Beginning organ student
  by <dsmith5195@att.net>
HTML solution - software cost sharing
  by <Wuxuzusu@aol.com>
Re: Christmas Eve., Gnadenhutten, OH
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Christmas Eve., Gnadenhutten, OH
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Which Harmonic From: "Harry E. Martenas" <harrym@epix.net> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 05:03:45 -0500   There's a simple way of looking at harmonics - have seen it on the lists before, but it has helped me a lot. Corrections welcomed...   Pitch Harmonic Ratio Pitch Common name 8' 1st 8/1 8' (Diapason/Principal) 8' 2nd 8/2 4' (Principal/Octave) 8' 3rd 8/3 2 2/3'(Twelfth/Nasard) 8' 4th 8/4 2' (Fifteenth/Super Octave) 8' 5th 8/5 1 3/5'(Seventeenth/Tierce) 8' 6th 8/6 1 1/3'(Nineteenth/Larigot) 8' 7th 8/7 1 1/7'(Twentyfirst/Septi=E8me) 8' 8th 8/8 1' (Twenty-second)   /Harry Martenas      
(back) Subject: Re: Beginning organ student From: "Teah" <teahzg@charter.net> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 04:53:51 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0076_01C2AD63.F31C9760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Donald,   I assume that you are looking for a new digital organ? If so, I highly = =3D recommend Cantor Orgelbouw! I purchased a Cantor Positive this year =3D (the 1st in the US) and couldn't be more pleased with the instrument. =3D The organ is custom made and is self contained with 27 stops on 2 =3D manuals and pedal, tracker point keyboards, 5 channels, MIDI =3D in-out-through, Audio in-out-through, general volume control, =3D headphones, programmable digital reverb, and 4 temperaments. The =3D console is solid oak. Cantor uses the Musicom pipe control system for =3D real time sound generation, not "samples". The sound quality is quite =3D realistic and "pipe" like and completely voiceable. If the "Tracker" =3D type console is not to your liking, they also build a roll top "Quint" =3D series. All of their organs are available with full capture systems and = =3D multiple memories, and concave-radiating, or BDO pedalboard. The stop =3D list/disposition is completely up to you. Mine is a Schnitger replica.   Best of Luck,   Tim Chetek, WI ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Donald Smith=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 9:26 PM Subject: Beginning organ student     Hello David and everyone,   I am studying pipe organ with Dr. Dennis Northway, the dean of the =3D Chicago Chapter of AGO. What an excellent instructor in all =3D encompassing aspects of organ and music in general.   I am considering purchasing a digital or analog organ to practice in =3D my studio apartment in Chicago. If anyone has any input on models or =3D brands please send me a response. I have briefly inquired about Allen =3D and Ahlborn-Galanti, but know very little about them. I could probably = =3D fit a 57" wide organ in my apartment with enclosed speakers (a headphone = =3D jack would have to be a must also), other factors I am looking for are =3D probably 2 manuals and AGO pedalboard, adjustable general volume =3D control, enclosed speakers and a depth of around 50" including =3D pedalboard and bench. =3D20   If anyone could please provide some input or suggestions, I would =3D greatly appreciate your comments. =3D20   Thanks to all. Happy Holidays. Donald C. Smith     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/2002 ------=3D_NextPart_000_0076_01C2AD63.F31C9760 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Donald,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I assume that you are looking for a = new =3D digital=3D20 organ?&nbsp; If so, I highly recommend Cantor Orgelbouw!&nbsp; I =3D purchased a=3D20 Cantor Positive this year (the 1st in the US) and couldn't be more =3D pleased with=3D20 the instrument.&nbsp; The organ is custom made and is self contained=3D20 with&nbsp;27 stops on 2 manuals and pedal, tracker point keyboards, 5 =3D channels,=3D20 MIDI in-out-through, Audio in-out-through, general volume control, =3D headphones,=3D20 programmable digital reverb, and 4 temperaments.&nbsp; The console is =3D solid=3D20 oak.&nbsp;&nbsp;Cantor uses the Musicom pipe control system for real =3D time sound=3D20 generation, not "samples".&nbsp; The sound quality is quite realistic =3D and "pipe"=3D20 like and completely voiceable.&nbsp; If the "Tracker" type console is =3D not to=3D20 your liking, they also build a roll top "Quint" series.&nbsp; All of =3D their=3D20 organs are available with full capture systems and multiple memories, =3D and=3D20 concave-radiating, or BDO&nbsp;pedalboard.&nbsp; The stop =3D list/disposition is=3D20 completely up to you.&nbsp; Mine is a Schnitger replica.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Best of Luck,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tim</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Chetek, WI</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3Ddsmith5195@worldnet.att.net=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:dsmith5195@worldnet.att.net">Donald Smith</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 26, = =3D 2002 9:26=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Beginning organ =3D student</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hello David and =3D everyone,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am studying pipe organ with Dr. = =3D Dennis=3D20 Northway, the dean of the Chicago Chapter of AGO.&nbsp; What an =3D excellent=3D20 instructor in all encompassing aspects of organ and music in=3D20 general.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am considering purchasing a = digital =3D or analog=3D20 organ to practice in my studio apartment in Chicago.&nbsp; If anyone =3D has any=3D20 input on models or brands please send me a response.&nbsp; I have =3D briefly=3D20 inquired about Allen and Ahlborn-Galanti, but know very little = about=3D20 them.&nbsp; I could probably fit a 57" wide organ in my apartment with = =3D   enclosed speakers (a headphone jack would have to be a must also), =3D other=3D20 factors I am looking for are probably 2 manuals and AGO pedalboard, =3D adjustable=3D20 general volume control, enclosed speakers and a depth of around 50" =3D including=3D20 pedalboard and bench.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>If anyone could please provide some = =3D input or=3D20 suggestions, I would greatly appreciate your comments.&nbsp; =3D </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks to all.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Happy Holidays.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Donald C. Smith</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><BR>---<BR>Outgoing mail is = certified =3D Virus=3D20 Free.<BR>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (<A=3D20 =3D href=3D3D"http://www.grisoft.com">http://www.grisoft.com</A>).<BR>Version: = =3D 6.0.431=3D20 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date:=3D20 12/17/2002</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0076_01C2AD63.F31C9760--    
(back) Subject: Re: HTML Workaround for AOL From: "Peter Harrison" <peter@phmusic.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:25:08 -0000   The explanation is that any email software that is configured to RECEIVE HTML messages (as is AOL software) will mask off the duplicated stuff and will make a nice job of displaying the message, with all the typographical features then sender may have included.   This goes wrong when the message is tacked onto the end of the others to create a digest which then gets sent as a plain text message. Even if the software recieving the digest is configured to display HTML features in incoming post, the digest is flagged as being plain text, not HTML. The = HTML tags just become part of the text character string, with duplications, listings of typefaces, colours etc.   Although one can argue that all email software should have the option to send in plain text, the reality is that not all does. The solution used by some email lists is to have the list server check all incoming posts and strip the HTML content before it builds and send the digest. Those who receive individual posts can be given an option to have either HTML or = plain text sent to them. Nice as all this may be, I do appreciate that list administrators may not wish to make it a high prioirty to invest in new email server systems and the time to configure them!   The best compromise we can ask is that those who can turn of HTML will do = so and we have to show tolerance for those who can not.   Best wishes to all for the remainder of the Christmas season and a good = 2003   Peter M Harrison Director of Music, Emmanuel Church, Holcombe & P H Music : 48 Moorfield : Edgworth Bolton : Lancs : BL7 0DH : GB fax: +44 (0)1204 853445 : tel: +44 (0)1204 853310 web: www.phmusic.co.uk           | From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> | Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 00:01:52 EST | | | You're confused? So am I. I only sent the message once. It took | a day to come through. What is so beastly about the HTML | problem is when I receive my messages back they look like | plain text. I'm open to suggestions, as I was under the impression | that Ad had solved the problem for me. It's embarrassing to find | out everyone else is still receiving the HTML garbage from me | except me. HELP! I'm ready to listen to suggestions. | | Ron Severin |      
(back) Subject: Re: Beginning organ student From: "r" <basset3@hvc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 08:25:31 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0047_01C2AD81.8537AC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   I purchased a Cantor Positive this year . . .   The description you provided piqued my interest. I don't mean to pry, =3D but could you give a ballpark figure for the cost of the specification =3D that you ordered?   Thanks, Robert Clooney ------=3D_NextPart_000_0047_01C2AD81.8537AC80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I purchased a Cantor Positive this = year =3D .. .=3D20 ..</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The description you provided piqued = my=3D20 interest.&nbsp; I don't mean to pry, but could you give a ballpark =3D figure for=3D20 the cost of the specification that you ordered?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Robert =3D Clooney</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0047_01C2AD81.8537AC80--    
(back) Subject: Re: Beginning organ student From: "Paul R. Swank" <prswank@surfbest.net> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 08:59:51 -0500   There is a Baldwin D-911 (made by Viscount), 2-manual AGO digital organ being sold right now on eBay. It is located in Quebec, Canada, but hiring =   a truck would not be that expensive. The organ fits the size requirements =   that you mentioned.   It is a self-contained organ with tracker touch, and a North German voicing. I had one and was very happy with the sound of the organ. It also has MIDI IN and MIDI OUT for the notes, so you can hook a MIDI sequencer to it for recording your playing and hearing what you sound = like.   It will also then play back pre-recorded MIDI files either purchased or downloaded from the Internet.   The price is now at about $600.00 US dollars, but the reserve is probably about $1000.00 US. That would be a steal for that organ.   I just sold mine for $3500.00 US., when I got a Rodgers 3-manual moving drawknob to replace it.   Paul R. Swank Baltimore, MD    
(back) Subject: Re: Beginning organ student From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 09:54:40 EST   Dear Donald: You seem to have measured the available width, but you must also = measure any requried elevator or staircases, and scout out any tight turns you = must make in narrow hallways when getting this instrument into your home. We keep our residential pipe organ consoles to a maximum of 29" in = depth, or if larger, build them so that they can come apart in sections. We also plan for the movement windchests and long pipes. In your case, since you are looking for a pipeless unit, also make = sure that your speaker cabinets can get in and out. Although you will probably = get the opportunity to educate a great many people with an organ's keydesk sitting on the sidewalk or being hauled up through the window, it's only = fun several years later, when it becomes an anecdote. Sebastian M. Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: Re: HTML Workaround for AOL From: "Mark Koontz" <markkoontz@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 07:11:20 -0800 (PST)   Ron's workaround helps (but does not eliminate) the duplication of the = message with the HTML tags included. When a message is sent with font variations, including color, italics, bolding, etc., it adds a great deal of = unnecessary HTML header and tag information. This is when those of us who are on the digest get a lot of noise in the signal -- something like the = inharmonicity of Bonzai mutations being used as Celestes.   When Ron highlights and makes all text "Normal", it eliminates the extra = tag information and reduces the amount of scrolling required in the digest = version. Occasionally, there are HTML messages (not from Ron) that the server does = not detect to provide a plain-text format. These are nearly impossible to = read in the digest. A good example is the message that started this thread.   AOL users, please do your best -- but don't go away. I'd much rather = scroll through a good, organ-related message with some HTML stuff, than read a = bunch of plain-text messages complaining about HTML ;-))   Thanks! Mark Koontz  
(back) Subject: Re: Which Harmonic From: "Steve Chandler" <stevec@open-tech.com> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 09:19:38 -0600   > > >Colin Mitchell wrote: >I noticed the word "inharmonicity" and pondered on what this might mean = but gave up after cruising the spell-checker, the dictionary and my = imagination. Still, it might be a good word to replace "Civil War", = "Family Strife", "Marital Breakdowns" and "maladjusted urban youth". In = fact, like the word oomiboo, it could probably be made to mean anything. >I suspect that it has something to do with Celestes.......but would this = then be "enharmonicity" or "quasi-cocophony"....maybe even Bonzai-tones = rather than Quarter Tones? Indeed, would a Tierce derived from an = undulating Celeste be enharmonic, inharmonic, or just plain out-of-tune? = (An undulating reed rank would, of course, be a Harmonica). >I await eagerly on the full dissertation. >Regards, >Colin Mitchell UK >(Enjoying a collaborative cyber interface). > > > Ross & Lynda Wards <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> wrote:For my part, I would = indeed like to hear more about inharmonicity, a term >I've not heard before, but a concept I do know pretty well. > > It seems many of you are eagerly awaiting a discussion of inharmonicity. So let me ask you have you ever wondered why bells don't have the natural harmonics we are used to? Many years ago in a class in Acoustics I learned that the rigidity of the medium effects not just the frequency of the fundemental. but pushes the frequency of overtones up. The more rigid the medium the more the frequency of overtones is increased beyond a simple multiple of the fundemental. In an organ pipe air has no rigidity and so overtones are true. With a piano they wrap bass strings in wire to increase mass without increasing rigidity excessively, same for guitar and other string instruments. Bells, chimes, vibes, etc. are a different story, about which I know little. I would surmise that expert makers of these instruments are careful to tailor and voice each note so that the overtones fall on notes within the normal harmonic series. I know the carillon at a nearby university is tuned so that the first overtone is at the octave and a minor third. It makes playing major mode music very interesting.   Perhaps someone more technical can explain in better detail, but that should cover the basics for most of you. Simply remember the more rigid the vibrating medium the more inharmonic are the overtones. Of course a discussion of domestic inharmonicity would probably be more interesting.   Steve Chandler    
(back) Subject: RE: Which Harmonic From: "David Smit" <DavidS@astrolabegroup.com> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 17:23:40 +0200   Hi,   Completely correct - for the 8' series...   the 16' series would be:   Pitch Harmonic Ratio Pitch Common name 16' 1st 16/1 16' (Diapason/Principal) 16' 2nd 16/2 8' (Principal/Octave) 16' 3rd 16/3 5 1/3'(Twelfth/Nasard) 16' 4th 16/4 4' (Fifteenth/Super Octave) etc.   David S   -----Original Message----- From: Harry E. Martenas [mailto:harrym@epix.net] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 12:04 PM To: 'PipeChat' Subject: RE: Which Harmonic     There's a simple way of looking at harmonics - have seen it on the = lists before, but it has helped me a lot. Corrections welcomed...   Pitch Harmonic Ratio Pitch Common name 8' 1st 8/1 8' (Diapason/Principal) 8' 2nd 8/2 4' (Principal/Octave) 8' 3rd 8/3 2 2/3'(Twelfth/Nasard) 8' 4th 8/4 2' (Fifteenth/Super Octave) 8' 5th 8/5 1 3/5'(Seventeenth/Tierce) 8' 6th 8/6 1 1/3'(Nineteenth/Larigot) 8' 7th 8/7 1 1/7'(Twentyfirst/Septi=E8me) 8' 8th 8/8 1' (Twenty-second)   /Harry Martenas       "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: HTML From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:32:25 EST     --part1_22.3403bae1.2b3dcc89_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Greetings Stan Yoder,   Do you receive the digest version of the chaline?   I wonder if perhaps only the AOL subscribers get the double plus gobblety gook on the chatline digest?   Stan Krider   PS Back to real pipe organ stuff now.   In a message dated 12/27/2002 5:03:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, pipechat@pipechat.org vze2myh5@verizon.net writes:   > Subject: Re: HTML Workaround for AOL > From: "Stan Yoder" <vze2myh5@verizon.net> > Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 22:17:41 -0500 > > David Scribner wrote: > > > >Except Ron this is what your email shows - it is NOT in Plain Text so > >that doesn't work. > > > > Well, Ron's message appeared on my screen as plain text (only.) > > Stan Yoder > Pittsburgh     --part1_22.3403bae1.2b3dcc89_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Greetings Stan Yoder,<BR> <BR> Do you receive the digest version of the chaline?<BR> <BR> I wonder if perhaps only the AOL subscribers get the double plus gobblety = gook on the chatline digest?<BR> <BR> Stan Krider<BR> <BR> PS&nbsp; Back to real pipe organ stuff now.<BR> <BR> In a message dated 12/27/2002 5:03:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, = pipechat@pipechat.org vze2myh5@verizon.net writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Subject: Re: HTML = Workaround for AOL<BR> From: "Stan Yoder" &lt;vze2myh5@verizon.net&gt;<BR> Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 22:17:41 -0500<BR> <BR> David Scribner wrote:<BR> &gt;<BR> &gt;Except Ron this is what your email shows - it is NOT in Plain Text = so<BR> &gt;that doesn't work.<BR> &gt;<BR> <BR> Well, Ron's message appeared on my screen as plain text (only.)<BR> <BR> Stan Yoder<BR> Pittsburgh</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_22.3403bae1.2b3dcc89_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: "derived" Tierces, etc. From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 09:34:12 -0600   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > That said, it WAS fun on the VERY large organs I've played to have soft > Gemshorn-scale or stopped wooden flute mutations to play around with ... > there were ENDLESS possibilities for coloring the strings and the softer > reeds with them. But that's a LUXURY, not a NECESSITY. And, properly > voiced and TUNED TRUE, normal wide OR narrow scale mutations can do the   Some of the old unit flutes, for example on 1920's Mollers, used to work better at providing mutations from unisons than one might think. Many instruments of the 1920's and 1930's would have an extended rank comprising 16' Lieblich Gedeckt, 8' Gedeckt, 4' Flute, 2.2/3' Nazard and 2' Piccolo, very occasionally with a 1.3/5' tierce as well. If, for example, one draws the 8' and the 2.2/3' together, in theory the tuning would not be right, since you would get an equal-tempered fifth rather than a perfect one. However, in practice the two pipes will "draw" with each other, pulling each other into tune. Result: the interval between them will be a perfect fifth.   John Speller  
(back) Subject: Re: Beginning organ student From: <dsmith5195@att.net> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 15:35:38 +0000   Tim, thanks for the recommendation. I'm going to check Cantor out on the internet right now. I'll let you know what happens.   Thanks, Donald Smith    
(back) Subject: HTML solution - software cost sharing From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:38:11 EST     --part1_124.1c11a9d5.2b3dcde3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Greetings David and all,   If software does exist that would strip the html stuff from the digested version of the chatline, and if that software is too expensive for David = to acquire on his own, would the list be willing to chip in say $5 or $10 = each to help with the software cost?   What say you all?   Stan Krider   --part1_124.1c11a9d5.2b3dcde3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Greetings David and all,<BR> <BR> If software does exist that would strip the html stuff from the digested = version of the chatline, and if that software is too expensive for David = to acquire on his own, would the list be willing to chip in say $5 or $10 = each to help with the software cost?<BR> <BR> What say you all?<BR> <BR> Stan Krider</FONT></HTML>   --part1_124.1c11a9d5.2b3dcde3_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Christmas Eve., Gnadenhutten, OH From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 09:45:56 -0600   Mike Swaldo wrote: > > Hi, > > Last night's service saw the sanctuary filled.   One of the things I miss from living in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, was the candlelight Christmas Vespers at the Central Moravian Church. Although an Episcopalian, I have to admit the Moravians do Christmas very well!   John Speller  
(back) Subject: Re: Christmas Eve., Gnadenhutten, OH From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 11:23:11 -0500   Dear John, As one who chose to live in the Lehigh Valley I have to agree with = you. Seems though tthat you took some of it with yo settling in Gnadenhutten, Ohio. Ther is a hospital in Jim Thorpe, right outside of Allentown that = has the same name. It is now owned by Lehigh Valley Hospital. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 10:45 AM Subject: Re: Christmas Eve., Gnadenhutten, OH     > Mike Swaldo wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Last night's service saw the sanctuary filled. > > One of the things I miss from living in Bethlehem, > Pennsylvania, was the candlelight Christmas Vespers at the > Central Moravian Church. Although an Episcopalian, I have > to admit the Moravians do Christmas very well! > > John Speller > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >