PipeChat Digest #2688 - Monday, February 4, 2002
 
Re: From Alexander Frey:re. Critique etc.
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: CRITIQUING OURSELVES AS ARTISTS
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Re: Is Carol Williams a Theatre organist?
  by "Ken Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com>
Re: From Alexander Frey:re. Critique etc.
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
overprotective
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE: Epiphany 4A and some good news
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
RE: CRITIQUING OURSELVES AS ARTISTS
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
RE: CRITIQUING OURSELVES AS ARTISTS
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
Re: CRITIQUING OURSELVES AS ARTISTS
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: overprotective
  by "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu>
Barber's "Adagio For Strings"
  by <Jason418@aol.com>
Re: Epiphany 4A and some good news
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Epiphany 4A and some good news
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
IRC
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: GONFALONS
  by "Karl Keller" <kkeller1@stny.rr.com>
Re: GONFALONS
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: Epiphany 4A and some good news
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
chat server down?
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Re: chat server down?
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(back) Subject: Re: From Alexander Frey:re. Critique etc. From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 04:57:20 -0600       quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > Whoa, dudes ... attribute where attribution is due. I had > NO PART in THIS discussion (grin). > > Bud   Mea culpa. I meant to write that "Bruce wrote in part"   > > > Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > >> >> In a lengthy and thoughtful response to Maestro Frey, >> Bud wrote, in part: >    
(back) Subject: Re: CRITIQUING OURSELVES AS ARTISTS From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 08:40:21 -0600   This argument reminds me of a story I re-heard recently (maybe here) - about the photographer who was invited to dinner and to bring examples of his work. After admiring his photos, the hostess commented "you must have a fine camera". As he was leaving, after eating a fine meal, the photographer told the hostess "you must have some fine pots."   Regardless of instrument - the musician is no better than the instrument played - but the instrument is no better than the musician who plays it. A good organist can make a bad organ sound better. A fine organ can sometimes make a bad organist sound decent. Making good music requires a partnership. To give credit to either without the other is insulting to both.   To claim that you attend an organ recital ONLY to hear the instrument and do not care who or what is played on it is doubtful. If so, perhaps you would be willing to pay $25 or so to come to a concert and hear my doctor friend play the Meyerson organ. She turned pages for me at a program there once, and at the rehearsal session could not resist playing Chopsticks and I Dropped My Dolly in the Mud on the Meyerson organ. So, tell me - it was the Meyerson Fisk - was it great music??   I personally would most like to hear a great organist on a great instrument. But if one has to be bad and the other good, I prefer that it be the organ that is bad. I have heard some organists get amazing results from really bad organs. And I have heard organists play good organs so badly, I hoped they would not discourage newbie audience members from ever returning to an organ concert and I wished I could get both my money and my time back.   Margo        
(back) Subject: Re: Is Carol Williams a Theatre organist? From: "Ken Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:32:22 -0500   As Diane says, Carol Williams is a theater organist! The audience's reactions during her RTOS debut confirmed that.   From her console riser "Brazil" until her console descent playing the Beatles tune "Hey, Jude" followed by a standing ovation and her encore = "Fly Me to the Moon". Carol proved that she knows how to prove her abilities = with theater organ. BTW, she quickly sold out of her CDs and many of the crowd requested order forms upon finding that all her CDs had been sold out = before they got to the counter.   Ken Evans http://theatreorgans.com/rochestr/     > Yes she is! > > I went to her concert in Rochester, NY this afternoon. > > Did a lot of different pieces, including a couple of > toccatas, a march, some "cheeky" pieces from England, some > ragtime, some romantic mood music, and so on. Talked a > little about the features of the organ. A nice program, in > her own individual style. I think I'd label it jazz. > She also has a good sense of humor! > > Diane S. > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: From Alexander Frey:re. Critique etc. From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:34:42 EST     --part1_13f.8c9e73c.29901222_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 2/4/02 2:23:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, rodneywest72@yahoo.com writes:     > <Your long response to Alexander Frey's letter prvokes > several reactions from me. > First of all, at the end of your letter you welcome > Maestro Frey to the list, which is great--we would all > benefit greatly from his input. The you refer to him > as Mr. Berlin and say that you hope he learns from us!   Sorry! The letter was very long and by the time I got to the end I guess =   I'd forgotten who'd posted it. Fortunately, I'm the only one on the list =   who makes mistakes.   > I understand your meaning, but I have to ask if you > know who you are addressing here. I have heard Frey > perform on numerous occasions here in California > during his US tours, and my partner and I had the > experience of seeing him conduct in Europe. I checked > a few websites tonight to catch up on his activities. >   Sorry again.... I live in FloriDuh! We are culturally deprived! > What about the very accessible, listenable and even > entertaining music of, to name a few, Albright, Rorem, > Bolcom, Dinda, Conte, Messaien (though he might not be > for everyone's taste-I love his music), Langlais, > Dowling, Berlinski. Even the Schoenberg Variations on > a recitative come across in a melodious eay. >   NONE of the above are really accessible IMHO to many organists and = listeners. All of the music I would consider very, very difficult, although I've not =   been exposed to Conte. Much of Albright, Rorem, and Dinda are painful listening and have certainly been no fun for me to learn because of their lack of reason (again IMHO) in composition. Bolcom is fun to listen to, = but again IMHO not worth the trouble.   > <Then you go on to try to correct Maestro Frey's comments about the = place of > the organ in the concert hall and concert hall public. Excuse me, but = the > man > conducts all over the world every season in addition to appearing as > soloist with major orchestras and conductors.   I did NOT correct him. I offered my opinion based upon my experience. I =   hardly think he joined the list to have everyone agree with him. In fact, = I believe that was stated in the note.     Bruce Cornely < Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres and meet the Baskerbeagles: Duncan, Miles, Molly & = Dewi < http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 >   --part1_13f.8c9e73c.29901222_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 2/4/02 2:23:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, rodneywest72@yahoo.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">&lt;Your long = response to Alexander Frey's letter prvokes <BR>several reactions from me. <BR>First of all, at the end of your letter you welcome <BR>Maestro Frey to the list, which is great--we would all <BR>benefit greatly from his input. &nbsp;The you refer to him <BR>as Mr. Berlin and say that you hope he learns from us!</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" = LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Sorry! &nbsp;&nbsp;The letter was very long and by the time I got to = the end I guess I'd forgotten who'd posted it. &nbsp;&nbsp;Fortunately, = I'm the only one on the list who makes mistakes. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I understand your = meaning, but I have to ask if you <BR>know who you are addressing here. &nbsp;I have heard Frey <BR>perform on numerous occasions here in California <BR>during his US tours, and my partner and I had the <BR>experience of seeing him conduct in Europe. &nbsp;I checked <BR>a few websites tonight to catch up on his activities. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Sorry again.... I live in FloriDuh! = &nbsp;&nbsp;We are culturally deprived! <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What about the = very accessible, listenable and even <BR>entertaining music of, to name a few, Albright, Rorem, <BR>Bolcom, Dinda, Conte, Messaien (though he might not be <BR>for everyone's taste-I love his music), Langlais, <BR>Dowling, Berlinski. Even the Schoenberg Variations on <BR>a recitative come across in a melodious eay. &nbsp; <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">NONE of the above are really accessible IMHO to = many organists and listeners. &nbsp;All of the music I would consider = very, very difficult, although I've not been exposed to Conte. = &nbsp;&nbsp;Much of Albright, Rorem, and Dinda are painful listening and = have certainly been no fun for me to learn because of their lack of reason = (again IMHO) in composition. &nbsp;&nbsp;Bolcom is fun to listen to, but = again IMHO not worth the trouble. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px">&lt;Then you go on to try to correct Maestro Frey's comments about = the place of the organ in the concert hall and concert hall public. = &nbsp;Excuse me, but the man <BR>conducts all over the world every season in addition to appearing as = soloist with major orchestras and conductors. </FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" = LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I did NOT correct him. &nbsp;I offered my = opinion based upon my experience. &nbsp;&nbsp;I hardly think he joined the = list to have everyone agree with him. &nbsp;In fact, I believe that was = stated in the note. <BR> <BR> <BR> Bruce Cornely &lt; Cremona502@cs.com &gt;<I> </I> <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres <I>&nbsp;</I>and meet the Baskerbeagles: = &nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt; &nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &gt;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_13f.8c9e73c.29901222_boundary--  
(back) Subject: overprotective From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 12:40:56 -0500   Hello,   Does anyone on this list feel that her/his registrations are not something to be shared? Do you feel you have to protect your registrations from others? It may be a silly question but I thought I'd ask anyway. I only occurred = to me after having heard the playing of Bach's Dorian d Toccata and Fugue = last evening magnificently played and thinking I'd like to know what = registration the organist was using because it was so perfectly crisp, clear and full. = Of course the organ had a lot to do with it but the registration was perfect.   Robert Colasacco   PS please don't correct, or think you're correcting, me by telling me it's = d minor; where I come from a lower case letter is shorthand to indicate a minor key .   Robert B. Colasacco Administrative Assistant/Secretary Distinguished Colleagues Population Council One Dag Hammarskjold Plaza New York, NY 10017 Direct Telephone: (212) 339-0685 Main Telephone: (212) 339-0500 Fax: (212) 755-6052 e-mail: rcolasacco@popcouncil.org Visit our web site: www.popcouncil.org    
(back) Subject: RE: Epiphany 4A and some good news From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 13:45:00 -0500   >Just as I started the postlude the acolyte got tangled up in one of the rugs and fell down with a clatter in front of everyone, so I cut Hollins extremely short so that I could check on him.   More happens at St. Agatha's along these lines every month than I can remember in years. Are you sure that the rector isn't secretly following a vocation for a "clown" ministry?   The only similar event that I recall was in Yakima, Wash. when, after the processional hymn, the crucifer forgot to put the pin through the latch where the cross was kept at the east end of the choir stalls. About two minutes into the service-- CRASH! It toppled over and slipped off the staff. The poor kid started to cry when it looked as though he had been responsible for the processional cross breaking, but fortunately no harm = was actually done. It wasn't a laughing matter at the time, but in retrospect = I can't suppress a smile at least. It is the kind of thing that won't = happen again in the same place for a long time.   >Rick and I did our part for the economy - we are the proud owners of new cookware.   <political rant on>   It sounds as though you bought it because you REALLY NEEDED AND WANTED IT and particularly liked that set. That is the best way to help the = economy. I don't quite approve of the President telling us, most of whom are = already too far in debt for our own good, to go out and buy stuff for the = economy's sake. The economy will recover when businesses adjust to what we REALLY NEED AND WANT TODAY, rather than ten years ago. Recessions occur partly because they lose touch with reality, and when people go on = well-intentioned buying sprees solely at the bidding of their fearless leader, all they do = is postpone that needed readjustment.   Furthermore, for the leadership of a nation built ostensibly on a FREE enterprise economy and enlightened self-interest to direct its = member-agents (and every consumer is one) like a flock of sheep, supposedly for the good of that kind of economy, is 180 degrees at odds with its core concept, and therefore to obey would be downright un-American! This irony is more amusing than alarming-- if only because the country's already too far gone in groupthink for alarm to be worth the trouble-- but we could use a few editorials pointing out the paradox.   <political rant off>    
(back) Subject: RE: CRITIQUING OURSELVES AS ARTISTS From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:21:26 -0500   Mike Gettelman writes:   >> Gillian Weir once said that she absolutely hates it >> when someone comes up to her following one of her >> recitals and says, "You demonstrated the organ >> beautifully!" She feels they missed the whole point >> of her concert and work.   >I would not portend to diminish the artistry of Gillian Weir, but I >think this aptly demonstrates the arrogance of an organist. >People attend a pipe organ recital with a rather different agenda than = say an Orchestra concert...   You're very convincing, Mike; right after nodding my head in agreement = with Rodney and Dame Gillian (there is nothing like a Dame), I now have to = agree with you.   Although it is considered more sophisticated to call solo performances "recitals," I no longer object to the term "organ concert." This = instrument is actually composed of thousands of instruments, and whenever they all = play together in harmonious co-operation, it is something remarkable. When = this mechanical monstrosity further succeeds in communicating emotions, as = often as this happens, it's a miracle. The success is attributable to organ builder and organist alike, and let's not forget the people without whose generosity this very expensive instrument that we're privileged to play would never exist at all.   Of no other instrument (except maybe the carillon, for those who even know what the word means) is this the case to the same extent; and, as you say, every organ is unique. It's a generous gesture when an organist, in acknowledging applause, extends an arm to the instrument and then joins = the audience in applauding it, too.      
(back) Subject: RE: CRITIQUING OURSELVES AS ARTISTS From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:37:15 -0500   >The problem is, if it is a problem, that very often these days those who support the keeping of an organ at all in the church are those who are not musicians   It's not a problem. It's a blessing. Wouldn't it be worse if *only* musicians supported the organ? You know, musicians are always = marginalized, starting with choristers who thereby, it seems, cease to be "youth" and to have their tastes counted as such. When you deliver yourself of a musical opinion in a church setting, if possible don't let on that you care = because you've been sensitized by training. It's the kiss of death for your persuasiveness-- something like admitting that you want drugs legalized because you're a drug addict.   >in many organists' associations probably half the membership at least are those who love the sound of the organ but don't play themselves at all,   That, too, is a relief. Bitch-bitch-bitch. It sounds as though, when we get tired of bitching because nobody goes to organ recitals except other organists, we bitch because somebody does.   Paul    
(back) Subject: Re: CRITIQUING OURSELVES AS ARTISTS From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:26:26 EST     --part1_10c.c5bf04e.29906492_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit     > but I > >think this aptly demonstrates the arrogance of an organist. > >People attend a pipe organ recital with a rather different agenda than = say > an Orchestra concert...   I'm not so sure. I think average persons come to organ concerts to hear beautiful music AND hear the organ itself.   Music is music. The instrument is but a medium, albeit a very important = one.   Neil Brown     --part1_10c.c5bf04e.29906492_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">but I <BR>&gt;think this aptly demonstrates the arrogance of an organist. <BR>&gt;People attend a pipe organ recital with a rather different agenda = than say <BR>an Orchestra concert...</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I'm not so sure. &nbsp;I think average persons come to organ concerts = to hear beautiful music AND hear the organ itself. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Music is music. &nbsp;The instrument is but a medium, albeit a very = important one. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Neil Brown <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_10c.c5bf04e.29906492_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: overprotective From: "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 15:45:10 +0000       "COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote:   > Hello, > > Does anyone on this list feel that her/his registrations are not someth= ing > to be shared? Do you feel you have to protect your registrations from > others? > It may be a silly question but I thought I'd ask anyway. I only occurre= d to > me after having heard the playing of Bach's Dorian d Toccata and Fugue = last > evening magnificently played and thinking I'd like to know what registr= ation > the organist was using because it was so perfectly crisp, clear and ful= l. Of > course the organ had a lot to do with it but the registration was perfe= ct.   Robert Colasacco   I can=92t understand people not being totally open about registrations. = However, I am acquainted with people who are either embarrassed by or ashamed of, = their registrations and so try to prevent anyone else from seeing them. Or maybe it is somehow trying to be territorial.   I have always let my students know exactly what I would do or have done w= ith any composition, whether it be service music, recital music or accompanim= ents. They learn from what I do, right or wrong.   Del W. Case Pacific Union College     > > > >  
(back) Subject: Barber's "Adagio For Strings" From: <Jason418@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 18:55:30 EST   Chatters:   Could someone suggest an appropriate metronome marking for this = composition (the Strickland arrangement)?   Many thanks.   Wayne King  
(back) Subject: Re: Epiphany 4A and some good news From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 20:10:15 EST     --part1_5f.21e48d7b.29908af7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 2/4/02 1:48:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, = pemmons@wcupa.edu writes:     > >Just as I started the postlude the acolyte got tangled up in one of the > rugs and fell down with a clatter in front of everyone, so I cut Hollins > extremely short so that I could check on him. >   One of my favorites occurred on Pentecost Sunday when we included = Gonfalons in the procession. The organist noticed that all of the acolytes were = not in their places and continued his improvisation expecting the gonfalon = bearer to appear. After an extended interlude and several perplexed lookd from = the sanctuary, someone in the choir happened to look into the nave and spotted =   poor gonfalon bearer desperately trying to disentangle the gonfalon from a =   chandelier.   Bruce Cornely < Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres and meet the Baskerbeagles: Duncan, Miles, Molly & = Dewi < http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 >   --part1_5f.21e48d7b.29908af7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 2/4/02 1:48:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, pemmons@wcupa.edu writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">&gt;Just as I = started the postlude the acolyte got tangled up in one of the <BR>rugs and fell down with a clatter in front of everyone, so I cut = Hollins <BR>extremely short so that I could check on him. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>One of my favorites occurred on Pentecost Sunday when we included = Gonfalons in the procession. &nbsp;&nbsp;The organist noticed that all of = the acolytes were not in their places and continued his improvisation = expecting the gonfalon bearer to appear. &nbsp;&nbsp;After an extended = interlude and several perplexed lookd from the sanctuary, someone in the = choir happened to look into the nave and spotted poor gonfalon bearer = desperately trying to disentangle the gonfalon from a chandelier. <BR> <BR> Bruce Cornely &lt; Cremona502@cs.com &gt;<I> </I> <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres <I>&nbsp;</I>and meet the Baskerbeagles: = &nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt; &nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &gt;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_5f.21e48d7b.29908af7_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Epiphany 4A and some good news From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 20:23:34 -0500   Bruce, or any-one else, for that matter!   What are Gonfalons? I have never heard that term.   I bet it is something that I must know by another name!   Bob Conway   At 08:10 PM 2/4/02 -0500, Bruce wrote:     >One of my favorites occurred on Pentecost Sunday when we included >Gonfalons in the procession. The organist noticed that all of the >acolytes were not in their places and continued his improvisation >expecting the gonfalon bearer to appear. After an extended interlude = and >several perplexed lookd from the sanctuary, someone in the choir happened =   >to look into the nave and spotted poor gonfalon bearer desperately trying =   >to disentangle the gonfalon from a chandelier.            
(back) Subject: IRC From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 17:47:19 -0800   Tonight at 9 p.m. East Coast time ... directions for getting there on Pipechat homepage.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: GONFALONS From: "Karl Keller" <kkeller1@stny.rr.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 20:56:38 -0500   A banner suspended from a crossbar which is/can be carried in a procession.    
(back) Subject: Re: GONFALONS From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 21:06:11 -0500   At 08:56 PM 2/4/02 -0500, Karl wrote: >A banner suspended from a crossbar which is/can be >carried in a procession.   Oh, you mean a Gonfalon is banner like Sister Anna carries in good manner!   Thanks Karl!   Bob Conway       >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Re: Epiphany 4A and some good news From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 21:28:03 -0500       Bob Conway wrote: > > Bruce, or any-one else, for that matter! > > What are Gonfalons? I have never heard that term. >   Bob - I think that the Gonfelons are escaped "Midnight Organ Supply" = thieves who have changed their names slightly. Not you Bob, or Bruce. But they are being watched.   Stan    
(back) Subject: chat server down? From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 21:42:20 -0500   Folks, I think the Server is not working. ???   Stan    
(back) Subject: Re: chat server down? From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 21:44:17 -0500   Stan, yes it is, i am on it now!   Bob ...     At 09:42 PM 2/4/02 -0500, you wrote: >Folks, > I think the Server is not working. ??? > >Stan > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Re: chat server down? From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 21:47:56 -0500   Must be you Stan--Chat is in progress right now. Mack is trashing certain kinds of organs as usual. (Grin)   Stanley Lowkis wrote:   > Folks, > I think the Server is not working. ??? > > Stan > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: chat server down? From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 20:47:37 -0600   >Folks, > I think the Server is not working. ??? > >Stan   it is working FINE - there a number of us on it as i write this   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org