PipeChat Digest #2690 - Tuesday, February 5, 2002
 
RE: Kent Tritle at St. Ignatius, New York 2/3/02
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Kent Tritle at St. Ignatius, New York 2/3/02
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
RE: overprotective
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE: overprotective
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE: Epiphany 4A and some good news
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE:Gonfalonieri
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
RE: overprotective
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE: overprotective
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: overprotective
  by "The Schneider Family" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Lingua latina
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
RE: overprotective
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE: Lingua latina
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: Sainte-Chapelle and Cologne Cathedral
  by "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu>
RE: Sainte-Chapelle and Cologne Cathedral
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: Sainte-Chapelle and Cologne Cathedral
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
RE: Sainte-Chapelle and Cologne Cathedral
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: Sainte-Chapelle and Cologne Cathedral
  by <WiegandCJ@aol.com>
I'm baaack
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@earthlink.net>
RE: I'm baaack
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Kent Tritle at St. Ignatius, New York 2/3/02 From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 07:03:21 -0600   Malcolm, although you've probably told us before, inquiring minds want to know: where is your favorite seat at the St. Ignatius recitals?   Glenda Sutton          
(back) Subject: Re: Kent Tritle at St. Ignatius, New York 2/3/02 From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 08:35:45 -0500   Well, it's NOT the bench!   The acoustic of the place is really so very nurturing of sound (ooh, how's that?) that nowhere leaves you disappointed. However, I tend toward more-or-less the middle of the nave, where the case is in direct line-of-sight. You can't go very wrong.   Cheers and chills from Connecticut,   Malcolm   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:03 AM Subject: RE: Kent Tritle at St. Ignatius, New York 2/3/02     > Malcolm, although you've probably told us before, inquiring minds want > to know: where is your favorite seat at the St. Ignatius recitals? > > Glenda Sutton        
(back) Subject: RE: overprotective From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 08:44:56 -0500       ---- Well, I wasn't including sharing registrations with students; I think teachers MUST, have an obligation to share registrations with students, = no!! I was specifically referring to sharing them with other non-student organists. Robert Colasacco   I have always let my students know exactly what I would do or have done = with any composition, whether it be service music, recital music or accompaniments. They learn from what I do, right or wrong.   Del W. Case Pacific Union College     > > > >   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: RE: overprotective From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 08:55:25 -0500   I have to say the reason I asked this question, I don't remember if I did mention WHY I asked, but the reason I asked is because I was trying to = find out if it was proper etiquette to ask someone whose concert you just heard and whom you just met for the first time, what a particular registration = was for a particular piece in that concert. And yes, it was Kent at St. = Ignatius and it was, in fact, the Dorian P&F. Magnificent. I've not ever heard such clarity from an organ. And I'd say those two, organist and organ that is, share a fine relationship. Robert Colasacco    
(back) Subject: RE: Epiphany 4A and some good news From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:05:12 -0500   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C1AE4E.20DB2740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   The gonfalonieri led the warriors in battle in medieval and renaissance italy. They were very important characters and often the battle would include making sure the gonfaloniere (bearer of the city or family banner) was not struck down. It was important that the banner be up and waving at all times. The gofaloniere therefore often had his own battallion = protecting him. He was also wheeled on a cart (carro) often. -----Original Message----- From: Cremona502@cs.com [mailto:Cremona502@cs.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:54 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Epiphany 4A and some good news     A gonfalon is a type of kite but more on the order of a, for lack of = better description, paper apple peel! They are usually made of multi-colored paper and when they are carried in procession attached to a long pole, the gonfalon spins festively in the breeze. They are absolutely wonderful. And I say this as a person who generally does not like toys in church! They are a very fun addition to banners in a procession.     Bruce Cornely < Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres and meet the Baskerbeagles: Duncan, Miles, Molly & Dewi < http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 >   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C1AE4E.20DB2740 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1">     <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4912.300" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D135100214-05022002><FONT face=3DGaramond = color=3D#800000>The gonfalonieri led the warriors in battle in medieval and renaissance italy. = They were very important characters and often the battle would include making = sure the gonfaloniere (bearer of the city or family banner) was not struck = down. It was important that the banner be up and waving at all times. The = gofaloniere therefore often had his own battallion protecting him. He was also wheeled = on a cart (carro) often.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D135100214-05022002><FONT face=3DGaramond color=3D#800000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D135100214-05022002><FONT face=3DGaramond color=3D#800000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Cremona502@cs.com [mailto:Cremona502@cs.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 04, 2002 9:54 PM<BR><B>To:</B> pipechat@pipechat.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Epiphany 4A = and some good news<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT = size=3D2>A gonfalon is a type of kite but more on the order of a, for lack of better description, paper apple peel! &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;They are usually made of multi-colored paper and when they are carried in procession attached to a = long pole, the gonfalon spins festively in the breeze. &nbsp;They are = absolutely wonderful. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And I say this as a person who generally does = not like toys in church! &nbsp;&nbsp;They are a very fun addition to banners = in a procession. <BR><BR><BR>Bruce Cornely &lt; Cremona502@cs.com &gt;<I> </I><BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, = Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres <I>&nbsp;</I>and meet the Baskerbeagles: = &nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt; &nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 &gt;</FONT> = </FONT></BODY></HTML>   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C1AE4E.20DB2740--  
(back) Subject: RE:Gonfalonieri From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 09:31:38 -0500   Thanks to you all, I am amazed at the wealth of knowledge that is = available on this list!   I really had never heard the term before, but has a quite interesting = history!   Thanks,   Bob Conway ...   At 09:05 AM 2/5/02 -0500, you wrote: >The gonfalonieri led the warriors in battle in medieval and renaissance >italy. They were very important characters and often the battle would >include making sure the gonfaloniere (bearer of the city or family = banner) >was not struck down. It was important that the banner be up and waving at =   >all times. The gofaloniere therefore often had his own battallion >protecting him. He was also wheeled on a cart (carro) often. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Cremona502@cs.com [mailto:Cremona502@cs.com] >Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:54 PM >To: pipechat@pipechat.org >Subject: Re: Epiphany 4A and some good news > >A gonfalon is a type of kite but more on the order of a, for lack of >better description, paper apple peel! They are usually made of >multi-colored paper and when they are carried in procession attached to a =   >long pole, the gonfalon spins festively in the breeze. They are >absolutely wonderful. And I say this as a person who generally does = not >like toys in church! They are a very fun addition to banners in a >procession. > > >Bruce Cornely < Cremona502@cs.com > >with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" >Visit Howling Acres and meet the Baskerbeagles: Duncan, Miles, Molly & = Dewi > < http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 >      
(back) Subject: RE: overprotective From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:53:57 -0500   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C1AE54.F03C63E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   -----Original Message----- From: LLWheels@aol.com [mailto:LLWheels@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:12 AM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: overprotective     In a message dated 2/4/02 9:00:11 PM Central Standard Time, Robert = Colasacco writes:         Does anyone on this list feel that her/his registrations are not something to be shared? Do you feel you have to protect your registrations from others? It may be a silly question but I thought I'd ask anyway. I only occurred = to me after having heard the playing of Bach's Dorian d Toccata and Fugue = last evening magnificently played and thinking I'd like to know what = registration the organist was using because it was so perfectly crisp, clear and full       This is an interesting discussion in light of some postings here several months ago where I argued that the registrations were, indeed, the intellectual property of the performer who registered them. This was, however, concerning a situation of an organist who was summarily dismissed with the threat that any non-organist could replace him simply by pushing the buttons with his registration. In that case I strongly recommended = that the former organist set all the pistons to cancel.   OTOH, I should think any good organist would be flattered and pleased to share a particularly effective registration with a fellow organist - I = know I would (like THAT would ever happen).   Larry L. Wheelock Madison, Wisconsin   "SI HOC LEGERE SCIS NIMIUM ERUDITONIS HABES"   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C1AE54.F03C63E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1">     <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4912.300" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> LLWheels@aol.com [mailto:LLWheels@aol.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:12 =   AM<BR><B>To:</B> pipechat@pipechat.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: overprotective<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" size=3D2>In a message dated 2/4/02 = 9:00:11 PM Central Standard Time, Robert Colasacco writes:<BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE=3D"CITE">Does anyone on this list feel that her/his registrations are = not something<BR>to be shared? Do you feel you have to protect your = registrations from<BR>others? <BR>It may be a silly question but I thought I'd ask = anyway. I only occurred to<BR>me after having heard the playing of Bach's Dorian d =   Toccata and Fugue last<BR>evening magnificently played and thinking I'd = like to know what registration<BR>the organist was using because it was so perfectly crisp, clear and full</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>This is an = interesting discussion in light of some postings here several months ago where I = argued that the registrations were, indeed, the intellectual property of the performer = who registered them. This was, however, concerning a situation of an organist = who was summarily dismissed with the threat that any non-organist could = replace him simply by pushing the buttons with his registration. In that case I = strongly recommended that the former organist set all the pistons to = cancel.<BR><BR>OTOH, I should think any good organist would be flattered and pleased to share a =   particularly effective registration with a fellow organist - I know I = would (like THAT would ever happen).<BR><BR>Larry L. Wheelock<BR>Madison, Wisconsin<BR><BR>"SI HOC LEGERE SCIS NIMIUM ERUDITONIS HABES"</FONT> </FONT></BODY></HTML>   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C1AE54.F03C63E0--  
(back) Subject: RE: overprotective From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:14:57 -0500     "SI HOC LEGERE SCIS NIMIUM ERUDITONIS HABES"   Non hoc legere scio igitur eruditionis non habeo  
(back) Subject: Re: overprotective From: "The Schneider Family" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 10:12:05 -0600   "COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote: > "SI HOC LEGERE SCIS NIMIUM ERUDITONIS HABES" > Non hoc legere scio igitur eruditionis non habeo   Whooie-dooie??   Read: Wanna try that in English for us non-Latin or Spanish Scholars?   Speaking of being over-protective! I think it's just this kind of thing that led to the Reformation awhile back.   Grandpa Arp (Showing my Lutheran coat-of-arms today. . .)   Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Pipe Organ Builders 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arpschneider@starband.net HOME EMAIL mailto:arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com WEB PAGE URL  
(back) Subject: Lingua latina From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 08:17:20 -0800       The Schneider Family wrote:   > "COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote: > > > "SI HOC LEGERE SCIS NIMIUM ERUDITONIS HABES"   "If you can read this you (know you) have an education."   > > Non hoc legere scio igitur eruditionis non habeo   If you don't know how to read this, (therefore) you DON'T have an education." (chuckle)   Bud, who was the LAST person to take four years of Latin in HIGH SCHOOL (grin) ... prolly got the grammar ALL wrong   P.S. - Luther ENCOURAGED the study of Latin, particularly for the young, = and produced a Latin edition of the Lutheran liturgy ... Latin Masses were = still sung in St. Thomas Church, Leipzig until WELL after Bach's death ... I = think incense and eucharistic vestments were finally laid aside about 1780, as a result of the Pietist movement.   > > > Whooie-dooie?? > > Read: Wanna try that in English for us non-Latin or Spanish Scholars? > > Speaking of being over-protective! I think it's just this kind of thing > that led to the Reformation awhile back. > > Grandpa Arp > (Showing my Lutheran coat-of-arms today. . .) > > Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO > SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. > Pipe Organ Builders > 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 > Kenney, IL 61749-0137 > (217) 944-2454 VOX > (217) 944-2527 FAX > mailto:arpschneider@starband.net HOME EMAIL > mailto:arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL > http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com WEB PAGE URL > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: RE: overprotective From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 11:20:40 -0500   Oh is it Reformation Day? Reformation Day, imagine! Like Peter's Pence, kinda. I always remember my Lutheran boss coming into the office the day after and telling how inspiring the service was that all just marched out = of church uplifted and full of something or other. How fired up she and the rest of the congregation was. Whatever happened to the 100 years war. I guess it continues in Ireland today. Ah, the old days. Oops, I'm off = topic.   -----Original Message----- From: The Schneider Family [mailto:arpschneider@starband.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:12 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: overprotective     "COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote: > "SI HOC LEGERE SCIS NIMIUM ERUDITONIS HABES" > Non hoc legere scio igitur eruditionis non habeo   Whooie-dooie??   Read: Wanna try that in English for us non-Latin or Spanish Scholars?   Speaking of being over-protective! I think it's just this kind of thing that led to the Reformation awhile back.   Grandpa Arp (Showing my Lutheran coat-of-arms today. . .)   Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Pipe Organ Builders 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arpschneider@starband.net HOME EMAIL mailto:arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com WEB PAGE URL   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: RE: Lingua latina From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 11:22:08 -0500   I don't know (scio) how to read this therefore I don't have (habeo)an education. Reply in the first person singular.   -----Original Message----- From: quilisma@socal.rr.com [mailto:quilisma@socal.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:17 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Lingua latina         The Schneider Family wrote:   > "COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote: > > > "SI HOC LEGERE SCIS NIMIUM ERUDITONIS HABES"   "If you can read this you (know you) have an education."   > > Non hoc legere scio igitur eruditionis non habeo   If you don't know how to read this, (therefore) you DON'T have an education." (chuckle)   Bud, who was the LAST person to take four years of Latin in HIGH SCHOOL (grin) ... prolly got the grammar ALL wrong   P.S. - Luther ENCOURAGED the study of Latin, particularly for the young, = and produced a Latin edition of the Lutheran liturgy ... Latin Masses were = still sung in St. Thomas Church, Leipzig until WELL after Bach's death ... I = think incense and eucharistic vestments were finally laid aside about 1780, as a result of the Pietist movement.   > > > Whooie-dooie?? > > Read: Wanna try that in English for us non-Latin or Spanish Scholars? > > Speaking of being over-protective! I think it's just this kind of thing > that led to the Reformation awhile back. > > Grandpa Arp > (Showing my Lutheran coat-of-arms today. . .) > > Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO > SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. > Pipe Organ Builders > 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 > Kenney, IL 61749-0137 > (217) 944-2454 VOX > (217) 944-2527 FAX > mailto:arpschneider@starband.net HOME EMAIL > mailto:arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL > http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com WEB PAGE URL > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Sainte-Chapelle and Cologne Cathedral From: "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 08:50:48 +0000   I would like to add to the excellent information provided by Carl Wiegand concerning the Klais organ in Cologne Cathedral. My information comes fr= om the May/June 2000 issue "Choir and Organ."   The new organ, weighing 30 tons, is actually suspended from the roof on f= our steel rods. I don't think I would want to sit under it! !   Re: Sainte-Chapelle. The last time I was in the room there was a portat= ive and also an electronic keyboard. The chapel is frequently used for chamber m= usic concerts.     Del W. Case Pacific Union College   WiegandCJ@aol.com wrote:   > In einer eMail vom 30.01.02 14:01:18 (MEZ) Mitteleurop=E4ische Zeit sch= reibt > gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com: > > > Anyway, I was reading last night about Sainte-Chapelle (forgive me if > > the spelling is off - I'm too lazy to look it up) and Cologne Cathed= ral. > > There was no sign or mention of an organ at the former - is there, a= nd > > can one describe it? > > There was a Cliquot until 1791 when it was transferred to the l'=E9glis= e Saint > Germain l'Auxerrois Paris. Today, the Sainte-Chapelle has no Great Orga= n. > > > Regarding the latter, there was on the left a hanging (cantilevered,= if > > you will) division. Can one describe for us the organ at Cologne? > > The Cologne Cathedral (K=F6lner Dom) got a "provisional" Zwirner organ = in 1942. > This provisorium stayed there until it's end by allied bombs in 1943. > > The Dom was heavily damaged in WWII. The then Cardinal Frings decided j= ust > because of the misery in that hopeless time to celebrate the 700th year= after > laying of the foundation stone of the Dom in 1948. Because of the war d= amage > the nave at that time was seperated by a wall just behind the transept,= and > services were possible only in the choir and the transept. For the > celebration of the centennial in 1948 Klais (from Bonn, ca. 20 km from > Cologne) built at the left corner between choir and transept a once mor= e as > provisorium titled organ of 68 stops. With the restoration of the nave > completed and the separation wall removed in 1956, this organ enlarged = to > IV/88 (and IV/135 as you can sometimes read). > > This organ was well enloved by the then cathedral organist Josef Zimmer= mann, > but not so much by his successor Clemens Ganz. You can hear recordings = with > this organs: > > Rheinberger with Clemens Ganz http://store.yahoo.com/ohscatalog/rheinfe= s.html > Improvisations with Dupre http://store.yahoo.com/ohscatalog/dupimincol.= html > and Cochereau http://store.yahoo.com/ohscatalog/cocatcol.html. > > Since 1986 there were considerations if and mainly where a new organ sh= ould > be built. This resulted in the new nave organ, built by Klais too. Plea= se > lokk to http://www.cologneweb.com/domorgel.htm and > http://www.orgelbau-klais.com/de/50_obau/51d1_2.htm for details. > > Although this new organ is with III/45 much smaller, it fills the cathe= dral > much better from its position than the elder Klais can. > > Yes, can, not could: the Klais from 1948/1956 was not scrapped, but is > retained at its original place for organ historical reasons and for > occasional use. > > There is one recording with both organs played by Clemens Ganz > http://www.jpc.de/jpcdb/artsearch/showjpcart.html?artnum=3D1029346 > > and several recordings with the new Klais only, for instance > http://www.theorganmag.com/New_CD_Reviews/new_klais_organ_in_koln_dom.h= tm > > A photo of the new organ is at http://www.orgelbau-klais.com/de/fs_main= ..htm > > Please excuse my poor English. > > Carl > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: RE: Sainte-Chapelle and Cologne Cathedral From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 11:56:01 -0500     The new organ, weighing 30 tons, is actually suspended from the roof on = four steel rods.   I gather you're not kidding?  
(back) Subject: Re: Sainte-Chapelle and Cologne Cathedral From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 12:07:23 EST   Dear List   Looking at the organ spec. for the new Dom organ there appears to be more than 45 stops and many more ranks, unless some are to be installed at a later date. The stop list doesn't indicate this however. It has been refered to as III/45 and I don't see the corellation. I do see 53 stops over four divisions and 70 ranks. This is the Klais organ nobody wants to stand under.   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: RE: Sainte-Chapelle and Cologne Cathedral From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 12:15:37 -0500   That's the ROOF nobody should be under.       This is the Klais organ nobody wants to stand under.   Ron Severin   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Sainte-Chapelle and Cologne Cathedral From: <WiegandCJ@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 12:52:39 EST   In einer eMail vom 05.02.02 17:48:39 (MEZ) Mitteleurop=E4ische Zeit schreibt= =20 dcase@puc.edu:   > I would like to add to the excellent information provided by Carl Wiegand > concerning the Klais organ in Cologne Cathedral. My information comes=20 from=20 > the > May/June 2000 issue "Choir and Organ." > =20 > The new organ, weighing 30 tons, is actually suspended from the roof on=20 four > steel rods. I don't think I would want to sit under it! ! > =20   ...and what is with the Schuke at St. Lamberti in Muenster, hanging on chains= =20 only?   (See: http://www.schuke-berlin.de/Ueber%20Karl%20Schuke.htm and http://www.muenster.org/mom/po126.htm)   Carl  
(back) Subject: I'm baaack From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:15:12 -0800   Hey fellow pipechatters,   I've come back for awhile (at least until the Easter crunch hits!)   Glad to be here.   Jonathan Orwig FBC Riverside, CA - USA http://home.earthlink.net/~giwro/index.htm (personal) http://www.mp3.com/orwig (mp3 site)    
(back) Subject: RE: I'm baaack From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 13:17:21 -0500   Oh good.   -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Orwig [mailto:giwro@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 1:15 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: I'm baaack     Hey fellow pipechatters,   I've come back for awhile (at least until the Easter crunch hits!)   Glad to be here.   Jonathan Orwig FBC Riverside, CA - USA http://home.earthlink.net/~giwro/index.htm (personal) http://www.mp3.com/orwig (mp3 site)     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org