PipeChat Digest #2702 - Wednesday, February 13, 2002
 
Ahlborn-Galanti Chronicler IIIA on Ebay
  by "Bob Richardson" <bob@peak.org>
the good, the bad, the ugly, the brain-dead on pipeARGUE
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Ahlborn-Galanti Chronicler IIIA on Ebay
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
RE: Ahlborn-Galanti Chronicler IIIA on Ebay
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
RE: We're expecting ... (X-posted)
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Faure Req. accomp: (xposted)
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: the good, the bad, the ugly, the brain-dead on pipeARGUE
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: the good, the bad, the ugly, the brain-dead on pipeARGUE
  by "Ray Ahrens" <Ray_Ahrens@msn.com>
Re: Faure Req. accomp: (xposted)
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: the good, the bad, the ugly, the brain-dead on pipeARGUE
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: the good, the bad, the ugly, the brain-dead on pipeARGUE
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
NEW TOPIC: Radio Relays from the Console to the Pipes
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Re: Chronicler II Angelus
  by "Harv8" <Harv8@msn.com>
 

(back) Subject: Ahlborn-Galanti Chronicler IIIA on Ebay From: "Bob Richardson" <bob@peak.org> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:20:41 -0800 (PST)   Hello -   I saw someone was inquiring about the Chronicler II. They may be interested in an auction I stumbled across on Ebay. Looks like a dealer is selling a like-new (less than 6 months old) Chronicler IIIA on ebay, with a "buy it now" price of $27,000. Bidding is currently at $6,900, but there is a reserve.   The Chronicler IIIA has 3 manuals and a drawknob console, the "A" stands for their "A" voicing, apparently there is also a "B" model with a different set of stops.   I have not had a chance to play the current generation of Ahlborn instruments, but the Chronicler III is the organ featured on their demo CD and sounds at least worth checking out.   Best wishes, Bob Richardson bob@peak.org        
(back) Subject: the good, the bad, the ugly, the brain-dead on pipeARGUE From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:21:53 -0800   I am not allowed to post to that august list, being but a lowly CHURCH organist with ONLY a Bmus degree, but ...   The current discussion of couplers leaves me at a loss ... whether to laugh, cry, or scream.   Haven't those people ever read about FRENCH ROMANTIC registrational practices? When a French organist sits down to a Cavaille-Coll organ, the first thing he/she is likely to do is draw ALL the 8' foundation stops, ALL the intermanual couplers, prepare the reeds and silence them by means of the ventils, and off he/she goes.   "Giving up couplers for Lent" and similar nonsense would never OCCUR to a French organist.   Doesn't occur to ME, either.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Ahlborn-Galanti Chronicler IIIA on Ebay From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:59:40 EST   Hmmm... six months old, and they want to sell it. Asking 27,000 clams and only 7,000 bid. There is a message here, someplace...  
(back) Subject: RE: Ahlborn-Galanti Chronicler IIIA on Ebay From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:08:51 -0600   Oh, go ahead and bid....   -----Original Message----- From: TubaMagna@aol.com [mailto:TubaMagna@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 5:00 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Ahlborn-Galanti Chronicler IIIA on Ebay     Hmmm... six months old, and they want to sell it. Asking 27,000 clams and only 7,000 bid. There is a message here, someplace...   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: RE: We're expecting ... (X-posted) From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:30:17 -0600   Amen....   -----Original Message----- From: Paul Valtos [mailto:chercapa@enter.net] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 1:33 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: We're expecting ... (X-posted)     Dear Bud, After all that angst it finally came through. Must have been your connection with the Almighty. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> To: "+mailing list, ANGLICAN-MUSIC" <anglican-music@list.stsams.org>; "organchat" <organchat@egroups.com>; "pipechat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 12:56 PM Subject: We're expecting ... (X-posted)     > ... a brand-new bouncing baby HOLTKAMP (grin). > > The Vestry voted yesterday to ship our old Moller to Holtkamp and sign a > Design Agreement, which gets us blueprints and a visual to use for > fund-raising. No date set yet to build the organ, but it's a firm > commitment to DO it. > > It will be built in three stages, (A) to be installed in the interim > church, (B) to be installed at the rate of one stop a year, and (C) to > be installed when the organ's moved to the main church in 5-10 years. > (M) - recycled Moller ranks, rescaled and revoiced (tentative list). > > Tentative spec: > > SWELL (enclosed) > > A - 16' Gedeckt - 12 pipes - M > A - 8' Open Diapason - M > A - 8' Hohl Flute - M > A - 8' Gedeckt - M > A - 8' Viola - M > A - 8' Celeste - M > A - 4' Octave - M > B - 4' Flute > B - 2' Mixture V ranks > A - 16' Bassoon - 12 pipes > A - 8' Trompette - M - temporarily (grin) > A - 8' Oboe > B - 8' Vox Humana > B - 4' Clarion > C - 8' tuba (choir) > > GREAT > > A - 16' Violone > A - 8' Principal > B - 8' Harmonic Flute > A - 8' Violoncello - 12 pipes > A - 8' Chimney Flute > A - 8' Ludwigtone - recycled from Holy Family Church, Cleveland OH > A - 4' Octave > B - 4' Flute > A - 2 2/3' Cornet III ranks - M 2 2/3 and 2 + new Tierce > B - 2' Super Octave > A - 2 2/3' Mixture V > B - 8' Trumpet > (or) > B - 8' Cromorne - installed in great trumpet slide temporarily until the > choir organ's built, possibly > C - 8' tuba (choir) > > CHOIR (enclosed) > > C - 16' Quintadena - 12 pipes > C - 8' Open Diapason > C - 8' Doppel Flute > C - 8' Copula - so named in memory of Walter Holtkamp Sr. > C - 8' Salicional > C - 8' Vox Angelica II ranks > C - 4' Octave > C - 4' Flute > C - 2 2/3 Nazard > C - 2' Fifteenth > C - 2' Flautino > C - 1 3/5' Tierce > C - 1 1/3 Mixture IV ranks > C - 8' Tuba - non-coupling, separate swell box > C - 8' Cornopean > C - 8' Cromorne > > PEDAL > > A - 32' Resultant - Sub Bass + Gedeckt, notes 1-12 > C - 16' Principal > A - 16' violone (great) > A - 16' Sub Bass - M > A - 16' gedeckt (swell) > C - 16' quintadena (choir) > A - 8' Octave Bass > A - 8' Flute - 12 pipes - ext. Sub Bass - M > A - 8' violoncello (great) > A - 8' gedeckt (swell) > A - 4' Chorale Bass > A - 4' Flute - 12 pipes - ext. Sub Bass - M > C - 2' Mixture V ranks > C - 32' contra bassoon - 12 pipes (swell) > C - 16' Trombone > A - 16' bassoon (swell) > C - 8' Trumpet > C - 4' Clarion > C - 8' tuba (choir) > > New three-manual console to be installed as part of (A). > > Cheers, > > Bud > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Faure Req. accomp: (xposted) From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 22:52:33 -0500   I'm about to accompany the Faur=E9 _Requiem_ at the organ, using a second organist some of the time. It's an incredibly beautiful but sensitive score, and I wonder if music comes any finer than this!!!   Two questions:   1. The last passage of the second mov't, the Offertory, shows only choir an= d organ in the full score, but there is no indication whether the organ uses 16' pedal sound. Indeed, NEVER does the full score indicate anything about presence or absence of 16' pedal sound. Anyone have it on good authority whether or not to use 16' pedals in thsi passage? Would Faur=E9 have had an organ in mind without pedals?   2. The very closing chord of the work is a second-ivnersion chord!! Oh, the harp, vc & cb parts, all plucked, tonic notes, might resound a bit, but the lowest note of the organ part -- 16' pedal? -- also the tonic note is = a quarter note, while all other organ notes are dotted half notes with fermat= a to boot, thus sustaining a second inversion chord. The choir chord is also in second inversion. Anyone care to explain this? Why would one close = a work on a second inversion chord? And who am I to question Faur=E9, anyway? Yet, as we Penna. Dutch folks say, "It wonders me so."   Thanx.   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA  
(back) Subject: Re: the good, the bad, the ugly, the brain-dead on pipeARGUE From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 00:13:08 EST     --part1_155.8da105c.299b4fe4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 2/12/02 2:21:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:     > I am not allowed to post to that august list, being but a lowly CHURCH > organist with ONLY a Bmus degree, but ... >   don't feel bad, Bud. I got no-posted, too, but it wasn't because I don't =   use couplers!!   It all depends upon the organ. I've only had the opportunity to play one =   really French styled organ.... the Bedient now in Chuckston, SC. It's a =   wonderful instrument and was much fun to play. Thank heaven I can = improvise and wasn't bogged down with a printed page!!! I would really like to = play a 3m Cavaille-Coll type instrument with "official" voicing!! It's such = a neat concept.   Bruce Cornely < Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres and meet the Baskerbeagles: Duncan, Miles, Molly & = Dewi < http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 + http://prepaidlegal.com/go/brucecornely >   --part1_155.8da105c.299b4fe4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 2/12/02 2:21:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I am not allowed = to post to that august list, being but a lowly CHURCH <BR>organist with ONLY a Bmus degree, but ... <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>don't feel bad, Bud. &nbsp;&nbsp;I got no-posted, too, but it wasn't = because I don't use couplers!! <BR> <BR>It all depends upon the organ. &nbsp;&nbsp;I've only had the = opportunity to play one really French styled organ.... the Bedient now in = Chuckston, SC. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It's a wonderful instrument and was much = fun to play. &nbsp;&nbsp;Thank heaven I can improvise and wasn't bogged = down with a printed page!!! &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I would really like to play = a 3m Cavaille-Coll type instrument with "official" voicing!! = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It's such a neat concept. <BR> <BR> Bruce Cornely &lt; Cremona502@cs.com &gt;<I> </I> <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres <I>&nbsp;</I>and meet the Baskerbeagles: = &nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi <BR>&lt; http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 + = http://prepaidlegal.com/go/brucecornely &nbsp;&gt;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_155.8da105c.299b4fe4_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: the good, the bad, the ugly, the brain-dead on pipeARGUE From: "Ray Ahrens" <Ray_Ahrens@msn.com> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 23:36:33 -0600     ------=3D_NextPart_001_0000_01C1B41E.1AF580C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   You weren't allowed to post because you wouldn't comply with the posting = =3D guidelines.   ----- Original Message ----- From: quilisma@socal.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:22 PM To: pipechat Subject: the good, the bad, the ugly, the brain-dead on pipeARGUE   I am not allowed to post to that august list, being but a lowly CHURCH organist with ONLY a Bmus degree, but ...   ------=3D_NextPart_001_0000_01C1B41E.1AF580C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><BODY STYLE=3D3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>You weren't = al=3D lowed to post because you wouldn't comply with the posting = guidelines.</D=3D IV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; = PADDING-LE=3D FT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: = =3D 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> = =3D <DIV style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: = black"><B>Fro=3D m:</B> quilisma@socal.rr.com</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt = Arial"><B>Sen=3D t:</B> Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:22 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt = =3D Arial"><B>To:</B> pipechat</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt = Arial"><B>Subje=3D ct:</B> the good, the bad, the ugly, the brain-dead on pipeARGUE</DIV> = <D=3D IV>&nbsp;</DIV>I am not allowed to post to that august list, being but a = =3D lowly CHURCH<BR>organist with ONLY a Bmus degree, but = ...<BR></BLOCKQUOTE=3D ></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_001_0000_01C1B41E.1AF580C0--  
(back) Subject: Re: Faure Req. accomp: (xposted) From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 00:47:20 EST     --part1_ab.16e62160.299b57e8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Karl, My copy of the Faure is all packed up so the only thing I will comment on = is the use of 16 in the pedal. For my money, I think 16 is greatly = over-used in choral accompaniment. I recall how annoying it was when singing in = the choir and sitting on the side with the pedal case, having the 16 Bourdon barking over my head.   When seated in the congregation, I also observed that the 16 pitch in the pedal was very annoying when used with the choir. I found it more satisfying to use the manual coupled to the pedal and played in the lower octave when low notes were desired since the open and softer pipes blended =   better with the choir. In addition, not having the 16 octave kept the = bass from being tedious.   My preference would be for an open flute in the pedal and if there is a 16 =   used, that it be open as well, preferably something like a Dulciana or Gemshorn.   Hope all is well up there in Lutheran snow country!!       Bruce Cornely < Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres and meet the Baskerbeagles: Duncan, Miles, Molly & = Dewi < http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 + http://prepaidlegal.com/go/brucecornely >   --part1_ab.16e62160.299b57e8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Karl, <BR>My copy of the Faure is all packed up so the only thing I will comment = on is the use of 16 in the pedal. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;For my money, I think = 16 is greatly over-used in choral accompaniment. &nbsp;&nbsp;I recall how = annoying it was when singing in the choir and sitting on the side with the = pedal case, having the 16 Bourdon barking over my head. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>When seated in the congregation, I also observed that the 16 pitch in = the pedal was very annoying when used with the choir. &nbsp;&nbsp;I found = it more satisfying to use the manual coupled to the pedal and played in = the lower octave when low notes were desired since the open and softer = pipes blended better with the choir. &nbsp;In addition, not having the 16 = octave kept the bass from being tedious. <BR> <BR>My preference would be for an open flute in the pedal and if there is = a 16 used, that it be open as well, preferably something like a Dulciana = or Gemshorn. <BR> <BR>Hope all is well up there in Lutheran snow country!! <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Bruce Cornely &lt; Cremona502@cs.com &gt;<I> </I> <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres <I>&nbsp;</I>and meet the Baskerbeagles: = &nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi <BR>&lt; http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 + = http://prepaidlegal.com/go/brucecornely &nbsp;&gt;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_ab.16e62160.299b57e8_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: the good, the bad, the ugly, the brain-dead on pipeARGUE From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 21:48:22 -0800 (PST)     --- Cremona502@cs.com wrote: > I've only had the opportunity to play one > really French styled organ.... the Bedient now in Chuckston, SC. It's = a > wonderful instrument and was much fun to play.   There is a very large French style Bedient at Idlewild Presbyterian in = Memphis, TN. The Barker-Machined monster is burried in the original side chambers using the = original E. M. Skinner case fronts.   I played the Skinner after it had undergone several rebuilds both by A-S = and Moller, and I also played the Bedient. I am sorry to say so, but the much rebuilt = electro-pneumatic instrument was so much more successful than the Bedient. The swell on the original organ = with its Skinner foundations and V Chorus Mixture, and 1948 Aeolian Skinner reeds was = fabulous, and the French Horn would melt butter, the Nachthorn (THE only Echo stop!) was lovely... The = pedal Trombone - well, it certainly hit *the* spot!   The Bedient has some lovely flutes and when I heard it soon after = installation had lovely foundations and solo stops, but put on the reeds and mixtures and you had = simply an excercise in LOUD. I don't see how people can call Fisk and Rosales *loud* builders if = they had that to compare them to!   I'm not fussing so much about the original organ, it had been tampered = with so much. Hopefully they have had the Bedient tonally finished by now so that it is not so = raw. I am sure if you put it in a room the size of a cathedral with appropriate acoustics it would = have been wonderful.   I found the feather light touch of the great (with Barker Machine assist) = very dis-concerting when moving between manuals, the Swell and Positif had VERY heavy touch and the = long distance didn't help.   I should shut up I know.   Randy   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry, Director of Music Ministry & Organist Mona Dena, Assistant & Principal Conductor The Episcopal Church of St. Peter 178 Clinton Street Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: the good, the bad, the ugly, the brain-dead on pipeARGUE From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 22:04:02 -0800     --------------CF414FDDBE846BFFD4CE2CAC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I have a minor in English; I'm fairly conversant with the language. I was put to "no-post" because I had the temerity to disagree with Master Chi, NOT because I didn't follow the guidelines, which I was (and am) QUITE capable of reading. No matter. At the age of 60, I don't have to prove anything to anybody, least of all the correspondents on pipeARGUE.   Bud Clark   Ray Ahrens wrote:   > You weren't allowed to post because you wouldn't comply with the > posting guidelines. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: quilisma@socal.rr.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:22 PM > To: pipechat > Subject: the good, the bad, the ugly, the brain-dead on > pipeARGUE > I am not allowed to post to that august list, being but a > lowly CHURCH > organist with ONLY a Bmus degree, but ... >   --------------CF414FDDBE846BFFD4CE2CAC Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <body STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"> I have a minor in English; I'm fairly conversant with the language. I was put to "no-post" because I had the temerity to disagree with Master Chi, NOT because I didn't follow the guidelines, which I was (and am) QUITE capable of reading. No matter. At the age of 60, I don't have to prove anything to anybody, least of all the correspondents on pipeARGUE. <p>Bud Clark <p>Ray Ahrens wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE>You weren't allowed to post because you wouldn't comply with the posting guidelines.&nbsp; <blockquote style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: = 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</div>   <div style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: = black"><b>From:</b> quilisma@socal.rr.com</div>   <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 12, 2002 = 1:22 PM</div>   <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><b>To:</b> pipechat</div>   <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><b>Subject:</b> the good, the bad, the = ugly, the brain-dead on pipeARGUE</div> &nbsp;I am not allowed to post to that august list, being but a lowly = CHURCH <br>organist with ONLY a Bmus degree, but ...</blockquote> </blockquote>   </body> </html>   --------------CF414FDDBE846BFFD4CE2CAC--    
(back) Subject: NEW TOPIC: Radio Relays from the Console to the Pipes From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 02:03:47 -0500   Does the present organ technology make possible NO attachment via any = cable between the console and the organ Proper? The possibilities are = intriguing. The totally mobile console could be anywhere.   Shucks, It could arise from the depths beneath your pew.   ...Up the aisle to the Chancel.   An abusive organist could have it rise to the pulpit in the middle of an interminable Sermon, knocking off the resident incumbent..   Of course that may or may not be a good thing, depending on the = incumbent's job performance.   Usually, the organ music meets a higher standard than the Clergy, few of whom have the exclusive ear of GOD.   nor do Any of us   Stan    
(back) Subject: Re: Chronicler II Angelus From: "Harv8" <Harv8@msn.com> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 23:42:30 -0800   I would take issue with this post as I have serviced these instruments and have found them to be pretty reliable. The Praeludium series I felt could have had a better pedal board and expression pedals, but as from a service standpoint about all of the units that I have serviced and modified are still in service. I have not seen or heard the Copeman-Hart in person but what I have read and heard it sounds like a really good instrument. By = the way Rodgers used "car radio" speakers for many years quite successfully.. = I just repaired and updated a Praeludium II for a church in Utah and = everyone from the organist down thought it sounds wonderful. Harvey ----- Original Message ----- From: "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 5:40 AM Subject: Re: Chronicler II Angelus     > > Ian: > > I have no direct information about the model that you are speaking of, = bit > of Gallanti in general I have a great deal of experience. I cannot in any > manner recomend them for any use. I have just removed one from my = current > parish for the following reasons. > > The console is of substandard quality and often has mechanical issues. The > keyboard and pedalboard is poorly made and have serious issues after a year > or so of use. The speakers used in installations are nothing more than 6X9 > car speakers with a larger woofer or two thrown in for good measure. These > are not instruments of quality they are instruments on the cheap. In = the > organ world you get what you pay for and I caution that with this maker its > a buyer beware situation. Most appaling to me was the interior construction > which placed the electric supply on a mount directly on wood. A fire > waiting to happen. If you must go digital, spend the bucks and get an > Allen, or if in Europe a Copeman Hart. > > Craig > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >