PipeChat Digest #2617 - Wednesday, January 2, 2002
 
Re: Sorry ,More Bad news
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Wellington Cathedral yet again, & other things
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: New Orleans OHS
  by "David Scribner" <dcscribner@earthlink.net>
Rick Veague
  by "Shirley Vanest" <koehnken@comsys.net>
Re: Rick Veague
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Re: French baroque registrations
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: French baroque registrations
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Sorry ,More Bad news From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 21:25:52 EST     --part1_3f.4477ff9.2963c9b0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Thanks, Daniel (I think). I'm in agreement. It is indeed sad to = continue hearing of precious churches being lost to fire, especially when it is through arson or carelessness. In any case, it's horrible.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly & Dewi http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_3f.4477ff9.2963c9b0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks, Daniel (I = think). &nbsp;&nbsp;I'm in agreement. &nbsp;It is indeed sad to continue = hearing of precious churches being lost to fire, especially when it is = through arson or carelessness. &nbsp;&nbsp;In any case, &nbsp;it's = horrible. &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Duncan, Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi = &nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains <BR>Please visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_3f.4477ff9.2963c9b0_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Wellington Cathedral yet again, & other things From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:46:34 +1300   Dear all, In spite of my quote from former Director of Music Philip Walsh, the most wonderful music always comes from Wellington Cathedral. Philip could improvise in any style, given just 2 secs. intro, any age or period or country, with devastating musicality and technique. His successor Andrew Cantrill is, as I've said, if anything even better - and that is an = amazing thing. As choirmasters, I've not heard better, though some equals - and I can give no higher praise than that, having heard the choirs at St Paul's, Westminster Abbey, Durham etc. Perhaps not surprisingly, given that the Dean of Wellington is also an exceptionally capable man, the morning 10am Service on Sunday has risen = from about 60 ten years ago to about 600 now, with the place packed out on = major occasions. Re: what I did to my computer, following advice amicably given here on = this List, 1. Push the button saying "New Message" 2. Push the thing saying "Format" 3. Push the thing saying "Plain Text" 4. Ignore a warning that comes up. It seems I have to go through this every time I want to send a message. I'll leave talking about Maxwell Fernie's organ till about a week from = now, but then go into details. In the meantime, let me say that there are very few large organs in New Zealand, as we have a population of under 4,000,000, but there have been a maximum of 600 different pipe organs, currently running at about 500 to = 550 actually working (I haven't counted). I've played all bar about 5 of these and have been creating archives of all the details I can gather, including photos, for the last 41 years. With this has been an endless collecting of NZ church photographs, totalling now about 6000 over 2500 different church buildings. I shall share these things with you "foreigners" till you get bored and = tell me to quit. :-) I've just looked up my 1921 Audsley and he does indeed mention the = Cornopean as being ideally a cross between a Trumpet, French (notice the adjective) Horn and a Cornet a Pistons, but admits that the stop rarely attains to that. In other words, what you hear is not what he considers ideal. By the way, some writers have spoken on this List of the "Horn" character of the Cornopean, but Audsley does not mention that - the Horn is very different indeed from the French Horn, the former being much used, the latter only incredibly rarely. Even in the orchestra, whose instruments Audsley was referring to, the Horn is quite different from the French Horn, usually referring surely to something from the brass division and not from the woodwind where a French Horn is placed. He also speaks of the stop being of the closed variety and I presume he means it has a pierced lid on the top of the resonator. To be honest, I've inspected heaps of Cornopeans and never found one yet with a lid on it, = and never one with even a trace of French Horn tone. So, notwithstanding those who wish to decry my definition of the tone, = I'll stand by it, and not stand by a theoretical fellow who admits his ideas = are not much achieved in regard to this stop. At least a dozen British organbuilders have told me directly that the definition as a brassy stop that is thin in chords yet solid as a solo is in fact a good definition, taking it away from the Trumpet tone to the brassy. The stop will = inevitably sound raucous, also, in a small dead wooden church seating about 75 to 180 when the organ has perhaps only a dozen simple stops, no upper work, and = no other reed. We need to be practical in our definitions, and not misquote theoretician writers. (Should I duck for cover on this last sentence?) Regards, Ross        
(back) Subject: Re: New Orleans OHS From: "David Scribner" <dcscribner@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 21:07:31 -0600   Pete   Your list owner will be there looking forward to meeting you. Actually, I'm in the New Orleans area already visiting friends and will be driving into the city tomorrow. Just be prepared for some nasty weather - it is sleeting out here just north of the Lake tonight. But even with the bad weather it will be a fun week.   See you and any other list members who are coming down for this tomorrow.   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Rick Veague From: "Shirley Vanest" <koehnken@comsys.net> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 23:40:01 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000F_01C1931D.A1AEB2C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Just a short note to let those of you who know Rick via Pipechat, he is dying of lung and brain cancer. He has lived with us since July hence = some of you probably didn't get replies from him you might have expected. I believe he recognizes pictures, he was unable to speak today. He is receiving heavy doses of morphine to help control pain. We have band = organ, pipe organ and mood music (waterfalls, nature, Everglades, harp and seashore) playing constantly by his bedside. We had the ambulance = transport him to the hospital where they discovered the lung cancer has metastasized and had gone into the brain. He is in Hillside Manor 424 N Perkins Street in Rushville, Indiana 46173.   He will be buried next to my husband's father, Lew White, which I'm sure some of you older ones will remember as a fine, fine theatre organist. = Rick is a talented young man (50) and we shall miss him greatly. We are not related to Rick, but we love him and took him in when he was too ill to be alone. His only family is in FL and also not in good health.   If any of you would like to drop him an email I'll be glad to print it out and take it to him. It's just a short block away and we walk over. We're allowed to visit anytime. Just don't wait too long. He doesn't have much time.   Thanks.   Mr. and Mrs. Kendall White 430 N Main Rushville IN 46173-1638 koehnken@comsys.net       To be completely honest is to realize you really are not, therefore? Ness         ------=3D_NextPart_000_000F_01C1931D.A1AEB2C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3D4>Just a short note = to =3D let those of=3D20 you who know Rick via Pipechat, he is dying of lung and brain =3D cancer.&nbsp; He=3D20 has lived with us since July hence some of you probably didn't get =3D replies from=3D20 him you might have expected.&nbsp; I believe he recognizes pictures, he = =3D was=3D20 unable to speak today.&nbsp; He is receiving heavy doses of morphine to = =3D help=3D20 control pain.&nbsp; We have band organ, pipe organ and mood music =3D (waterfalls,=3D20 nature, Everglades, harp and seashore) playing constantly by his =3D bedside.&nbsp;=3D20 We had the ambulance transport him to the hospital where they discovered = =3D the=3D20 lung cancer has metastasized and had gone into the brain.&nbsp; He is in = =3D   Hillside Manor 424 N Perkins Street in Rushville, Indiana=3D20 46173.&nbsp;</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" =3D size=3D3D4></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3D4>He will be buried = =3D next to my=3D20 husband's father, Lew White, which I'm sure some of you older ones will = =3D remember=3D20 as a fine, fine theatre organist.&nbsp; Rick is a talented young man =3D (50) and we=3D20 shall miss him greatly.&nbsp; We are not related to Rick, but we love =3D him and=3D20 took him in when he was too ill to be alone.&nbsp; His only family is in = =3D FL and=3D20 also not in good health.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3D4>If any of you would = =3D like to drop=3D20 him an email I'll be glad to print it out and take it to him.&nbsp; It's = =3D just a=3D20 short block away and we walk over.&nbsp; We're allowed to visit =3D anytime.&nbsp;=3D20 Just don't wait too long.&nbsp; He doesn't have much time.&nbsp;=3D20 </FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" =3D size=3D3D4></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" =3D size=3D3D4>Thanks.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" =3D size=3D3D4></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3D4>Mr. and Mrs. = Kendall=3D20 White</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3D4>430 N =3D Main</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3D4>Rushville IN=3D20 46173-1638</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3D4><A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:koehnken@comsys.net">koehnken@comsys.net</A></FONT></STRON= =3D G></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" =3D size=3D3D4></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" =3D size=3D3D4></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3D4>To be completely = =3D honest is to=3D20 realize you really are not, therefore?&nbsp; Ness</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D3D"Comic Sans MS"=3D20 size=3D3D4><BR></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000F_01C1931D.A1AEB2C0--    
(back) Subject: Re: Rick Veague From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 00:38:57 -0500   This is very sad news indeed. Rick was one of the first list members to welcome me to Pipechat and the world of organs in general when I took the initial wobbly steps of my first post about a year ago. He told me about his Band Organ hobby, and suggested several books to help me better understand the art of organbuilding. I think that I will now enter his name inside of these books as a humble memorial for a kind friend who gave me his time and thoughts when I so needed them. I am somewhat ashamed I did not remain in better touch with Rick since our first contact. I notice that Rick's last post to Pipechat was in early November, but he was always very active on the list before that time. His posts were always informative in a gentle, quiet, and polite sort of way. Where some list members post like Trumpet Enchamdes and Tuba Mirabilis, Rick's posts were important, but delivered in a more subdued personality, like a Flute or a Gedeckt. The information was important, but delivered so as not to draw undue attention to the author. Would we all to take a lesson from this gentle man's delivery. Heaven shall be a better place upon his entering I'm sure. God bless Rick Veague.   Respectfully Mike Gettelman   Shirley Vanest wrote:   > Just a short note to let those of you who know Rick via Pipechat, he > is dying of lung and brain cancer. He has lived with us since July > hence some of you probably didn't get replies from him you might have > expected. I believe he recognizes pictures, he was unable to speak > today. He is receiving heavy doses of morphine to help control pain. > We have band organ, pipe organ and mood music (waterfalls, nature, > Everglades, harp and seashore) playing constantly by his bedside. We > had the ambulance transport him to the hospital where they discovered > the lung cancer has metastasized and had gone into the brain. He is > in Hillside Manor 424 N Perkins Street in Rushville, Indiana 46173. He > will be buried next to my husband's father, Lew White, which I'm sure > some of you older ones will remember as a fine, fine theatre > organist. Rick is a talented young man (50) and we shall miss him > greatly. We are not related to Rick, but we love him and took him in > when he was too ill to be alone. His only family is in FL and also > not in good health. If any of you would like to drop him an email I'll > be glad to print it out and take it to him. It's just a short block > away and we walk over. We're allowed to visit anytime. Just don't > wait too long. He doesn't have much time. Thanks. Mr. and Mrs. > Kendall White430 N MainRushville IN 46173-1638koehnken@comsys.net To > be completely honest is to realize you really are not, therefore? > Ness    
(back) Subject: Re: French baroque registrations From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 01:26:55 EST   Hi bud   if you have the URL location, I would like to read it!   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: French baroque registrations From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 23:17:38 -0800   here 'tis ... it's a PDF.   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/organchat/files/French_Registrations.PDF   Cheers,   Bud   RonSeverin@aol.com wrote:   > Hi bud > > if you have the URL location, I would like to read it! > > Ron Severin > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org