PipeChat Digest #2623 - Thursday, January 3, 2002
 
Re: Francis Booth, Organ Builder
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: The Rector From Hell (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
RE: Francis Booth, Organ Builder
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: The Rector From Hell (X-posted)
  by "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com>
Re: The Rector From Hell (X-posted)
  by "Rodney West" <rodneywest72@yahoo.com>
Re: Francis Booth, Organ Builder
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Francis Booth, Organ Builder
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: The Rector From Hell (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Francis Booth, Organ Builder
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Francis Booth, Organ Builder From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:55:51 EST     --part1_46.20504427.29662d67_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/3/02 11:32:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk writes:     > The main bellows have been patched many many times and must be = re-leathered > before too long, but that's money which is, as ever, in short supply. = So, > its fingers crossed on that one. >   Releathering a main bellow was one of the easiest projects that I've done. = With some good instructions from your service person, I would think that a =   couple of interested people could do this work and save considerable = funds. When I did it there was a bid for $4,000 to releather a 6' x 12' = double-rise reservoir, including it's removal because it "couldn't be done in place." = I did it in place and the cost was less than $500.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly & Dewi http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_46.20504427.29662d67_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 1/3/02 11:32:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The main bellows = have been patched many many times and must be re-leathered <BR>before too long, but that's money which is, as ever, in short supply. = So, <BR>its fingers crossed on that one. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Releathering a main bellow was one of the easiest projects that I've = done. &nbsp;&nbsp;With some good instructions from your service person, I = would think that a couple of interested people could do this work and save = considerable funds. &nbsp;&nbsp;When I did it there was a bid for $4,000 = to releather a 6' x 12' double-rise reservoir, including it's removal = because it "couldn't be done in place." &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I did it in = place and the cost was less than $500. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Duncan, Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi = &nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains <BR>Please visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_46.20504427.29662d67_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: The Rector From Hell (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:04:50 -0800     --------------102522ACE14763314DC6597E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Scott, if I knew the answer to THAT, I'd be a wealthier AND happier man (grin). I have no idea, other than a cussed streak a mile wide ... since you're in NC now, you should know what a "cussed streak" is (grin).   Cheers,   Bud   ScottFop@aol.com wrote:   > In a message dated 1/3/02 4:52:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, > quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: > > > >> Well, HE'S BACK, and he shot down EVERY SINGLE piece of work I did >> while >> he was gone (Epiphany thru Quinquagesima), PLUS Candlemas, PLUS the >> 11:00 choir, which I had volunteers for. > > Um, why?   --------------102522ACE14763314DC6597E Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Scott, if I knew the answer to THAT, I'd be a wealthier AND happier man (grin). I have no idea, other than a cussed streak a mile wide ... since you're in NC now, you should know what a "cussed streak" is (grin). <p>Cheers, <p>Bud <p>ScottFop@aol.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>In = a message dated 1/3/02 4:52:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com = writes:</font></font> <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font = face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Well, HE'S BACK, and he shot down EVERY SINGLE piece of work I did = while</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>he was gone (Epiphany = thru Quinquagesima), PLUS Candlemas, PLUS the</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>11:00 choir, which I = had volunteers for.</font></font></blockquote>   <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Um, = why?</font></font></blockquote> </html>   --------------102522ACE14763314DC6597E--    
(back) Subject: RE: Francis Booth, Organ Builder From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:08:20 -0600   What did you spend the $3,500 on? :-)   -----Original Message----- From: Cremona502@cs.com [mailto:Cremona502@cs.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:56 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Francis Booth, Organ Builder     In a message dated 1/3/02 11:32:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk writes:         The main bellows have been patched many many times and must be = re-leathered before too long, but that's money which is, as ever, in short supply. So, its fingers crossed on that one.         Releathering a main bellow was one of the easiest projects that I've done. With some good instructions from your service person, I would think that a couple of interested people could do this work and save considerable = funds. When I did it there was a bid for $4,000 to releather a 6' x 12' = double-rise reservoir, including it's removal because it "couldn't be done in place." I did it in place and the cost was less than $500.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly & Dewi http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/    
(back) Subject: Re: The Rector From Hell (X-posted) From: "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 17:14:51 -0500   At 01:43 PM 03/01/2002 -0800, Bud wrote: >Well, HE'S BACK, and he shot down EVERY SINGLE piece of work I did while >he was gone (Epiphany thru Quinquagesima), PLUS Candlemas, PLUS the >11:00 choir, which I had volunteers for. I heard an actor give a surprisingly sage piece of advice = yesterday:   "Don't ever talk to the (di)rector. Look serious, nod, make affirmative noises, and repeat whatever he says back to him. Make sure = not to listen to a word he says, then continue exactly as you were. Anything he says will just come back to bite your butt anyway."   Have fun! Ad ;->    
(back) Subject: Re: The Rector From Hell (X-posted) From: "Rodney West" <rodneywest72@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:24:56 -0800 (PST)   Dear Bud,   Keep a written record of EVERYTHING he has done or said. Include dates, times, record every action and conversation (whether on telephone or face-to-face), keep copies of every bit of correspondence. Also keep records of every conversation between you and choir members, congregation members and staff. AND KEEP THEM AND ALL ABOVE MENTIONED RECORDS AT HOME--DON'T LEAVE THEM IN YOUR OFFICE!!!!   You will need them to back up any claim you may have when push comes to shove. Keep all your records well organized.   Also, never meet with him alone. Take someone you know and trust with you to be a witness to any conversation you may have with the Rectum.   And remember- You don't have to accept any rude behavior from anyone.   GOOD LUCK! GOD BLESS YOU.   --- quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: > Well, HE'S BACK, and he shot down EVERY SINGLE piece > of work I did while > he was gone (Epiphany thru Quinquagesima), PLUS > Candlemas, PLUS the > 11:00 choir, which I had volunteers for. > > I give up. But he's going to have to FIRE me, AND > explain to the > congregation WHY. > > Bud     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Francis Booth, Organ Builder From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:32:13 EST     --part1_64.18474121.296635ed_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/3/02 5:08:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, pstorandt@okcu.edu writes:     > What did you spend the $3,500 on? :-) > I think the priest redecorated his living room! ;-) I was a volunteer!   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly & Dewi http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_64.18474121.296635ed_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 1/3/02 5:08:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, pstorandt@okcu.edu writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What did you spend = the $3,500 on? &nbsp;&nbsp;:-) <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I think the priest redecorated his living room! = &nbsp;;-) &nbsp;&nbsp;I was a volunteer! <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Duncan, Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi = &nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains <BR>Please visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_64.18474121.296635ed_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Francis Booth, Organ Builder From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:32:40 EST   Hi Bruce   Not every one is capable of taking on the releathering of a 6' x 12' double rise. Who taught you how to do it? Where did you get the leather? How did you do it so there was no lop sidedness? :) Did you use fish glue? How did you survive all the accumulated dust? Was this during your younger days when you could bend and contort your body into a tight space for hours? This should be an interesting story, please tell it. Also where was this monster located? and who originally built it?   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: The Rector From Hell (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:33:22 -0800   Yeah, well, I avoid him as much as possible, but HE has to approve the music-lists. No way around THAT. And the schedule of Holy Days to be = observed. And when choir practices can be held. Oh, he's very MUCH in CONTROL.   Cheers,   Bud   Adrianne Schutt wrote:   > At 01:43 PM 03/01/2002 -0800, Bud wrote: > >Well, HE'S BACK, and he shot down EVERY SINGLE piece of work I did = while > >he was gone (Epiphany thru Quinquagesima), PLUS Candlemas, PLUS the > >11:00 choir, which I had volunteers for. > I heard an actor give a surprisingly sage piece of advice = yesterday: > > "Don't ever talk to the (di)rector. Look serious, nod, make > affirmative noises, and repeat whatever he says back to him. Make sure = not > to listen to a word he says, then continue exactly as you were. = Anything > he says will just come back to bite your butt anyway." > > Have fun! > Ad ;-> > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Francis Booth, Organ Builder From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:50:34 EST     --part1_9b.20a2cc2c.29663a3a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/3/02 5:33:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, RonSeverin@aol.com writes:     > Not every one is capable of taking on the releathering of a 6' x 12' > double rise.   One of the problems in organ building is that for some reason, things are made to sound much harder and more "aetherial" than they actually are. Critical information about voicing, etc. all too often goes to the grave = with its owner. I was in my mid-thirties at the time and consulted with three =   organ builders that I knew from OHS. The leather came from OSI and hot = glue was used. I was very careful and did not hurry to prevent sloppiness or lopsidedness. The area was completed vacuumed before i started to ease = the dust problem. The organ was built by Hutchings in 1906 in Immaculate Conception RC Jacksonville. It has had very poor service and it is = amazing that it still remains basically untouced. Additions have all been made outside of the cases and no tinkering has (to my knowledge) been done to pipework. The blower was replaced in the 70's. The building is a beautiful victorian, restored to its original interior appearance except = for the addition of carpet! A used three manual console was installed in = the 90's to replace the second console, a two manual console put in by = Hutchings when the organ was electrified in the 20's. The organ appears to have originally been tubular pneumatic with the console attached to the case.   Great First Open Diapason 8 Second Open Diapason 8 Gross Flute 8 Gamba 8 Dulciana 8 Melodia 8 (in Trumpet holes, swapped for Trumpet in 20's) Octave 4 Rohrflute 4   Positively Hideous (added in 60's by (local) Yokel Organ company) Harmonic Flute 4 Twelfth 2-2/3 Fifteenth 2 Mixture IV at this time the Great Trumpet was discovered in the basement and placed = on a new chest behind the additions. The organ is in matching cases with stencilled facades on two sides flanking the West window. The = "additions" were planted in the empty area in front of the window above the reservoir. =   Swell Bourdon 16 Geigen Diapason 8 Stopped Diapason 8 Salicional 8 Voix Celeste 8 AEoline 8 Violin 4 Harmonic Flute 4 Flautina 2 Cornopean 8 Oboe d'Amour 8   Pedal Open Diapason 16 (wood) Bourdon 16       Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly & Dewi http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_9b.20a2cc2c.29663a3a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 1/3/02 5:33:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, RonSeverin@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Not every one is = capable of taking on the releathering of a 6' x 12' <BR>double rise. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">One of the problems in organ building is that = for some reason, things are made to sound much harder and more "aetherial" = than they actually are. &nbsp;Critical information about voicing, etc. all = too often goes to the grave with its owner. &nbsp;&nbsp;I was in my = mid-thirties at the time and consulted with three organ builders that I = knew from OHS. &nbsp;The leather came from OSI and hot glue was used. = &nbsp;&nbsp;I was very careful and did not hurry to prevent sloppiness or = lopsidedness. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The area was completed vacuumed before i = started to ease the dust problem. &nbsp;&nbsp;The organ was built by = Hutchings in 1906 in Immaculate Conception RC Jacksonville. &nbsp;It has = had very poor service and it is amazing that it still remains basically untouced. = &nbsp;Additions have all been made outside of the cases and no tinkering = has (to my knowledge) been done to pipework. &nbsp;The blower was re <BR> <BR>Great <BR>First Open Diapason 8 <BR>Second Open Diapason 8 <BR>Gross Flute 8 <BR>Gamba 8 <BR>Dulciana 8 &nbsp; <BR>Melodia 8 &nbsp;(in Trumpet holes, swapped for Trumpet in 20's) <BR>Octave 4 <BR>Rohrflute 4 <BR> <BR>Positively Hideous &nbsp;(added in 60's by (local) Yokel Organ = company) <BR>Harmonic Flute 4 <BR>Twelfth 2-2/3 <BR>Fifteenth 2 <BR>Mixture IV <BR>at this time the Great Trumpet was discovered in the basement and = placed on a new chest behind the additions. &nbsp;&nbsp;The organ is in = matching cases with stencilled facades on two sides &nbsp;flanking the = West window. &nbsp;The "additions" were planted in the empty area in front = of the window above the reservoir. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>Swell <BR>Bourdon 16 <BR>Geigen Diapason 8 <BR>Stopped Diapason 8 <BR>Salicional 8 <BR>Voix Celeste 8 <BR>AEoline 8 <BR>Violin 4 <BR>Harmonic Flute 4 <BR>Flautina 2 <BR>Cornopean 8 <BR>Oboe d'Amour 8 <BR> <BR>Pedal <BR>Open Diapason 16 &nbsp;(wood) <BR>Bourdon 16 <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Duncan, Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi = &nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains <BR>Please visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_9b.20a2cc2c.29663a3a_boundary--