PipeChat Digest #2627 - Friday, January 4, 2002
 
RE: 9 Hour Messiaen Marathon Played by Paul Jacobs at Fourth Pres	 byte r
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: Francis Booth, Organ Builder
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: The Rector From Hell (X-posted)
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
RE: OFF-TOPIC, sorta -- thank you! and some comments (X-posted)
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: clergy and organists
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: OFF-TOPIC, sorta -- thank you! and some comments
  by <Wurlibird1@aol.com>
Re: 9 Hour Messiaen Marathon Played by Paul Jacobs at 4th Pres., Chicago
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Happy New Year
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: The Rector From Hell
  by <Icedad@aol.com>
8 Little Bach P&F's Baerenreiter
  by "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net>
 

(back) Subject: RE: 9 Hour Messiaen Marathon Played by Paul Jacobs at Fourth Pres byte rian C... From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:24:27 -0600   Sort of like that woman who "won" the New York Marathon a few years back = by taking the subway to the finish area....   -----Original Message----- From: Cremona502@cs.com [mailto:Cremona502@cs.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:22 AM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: 9 Hour Messiaen Marathon Played by Paul Jacobs at Fourth Pres byte rian C...     In a message dated 1/4/02 9:11:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org writes:         18 hours!! I'm impressed. Did anyone here attend the Bach performances?         Actually, the way it is done is that when everyone falls asleep during a particularly tedious piece, you jump down to the bottom of the program!! ;-) When you're close to the end you get a couple of friends to make = some noise to wake everyone and then finish with the grande LOUD finale!!! ;-) =          
(back) Subject: Re: Francis Booth, Organ Builder From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:25:44 EST     --part1_4d.17058a2c.29673f98_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/4/02 9:59:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, = TubaMagna@aol.com writes:     > I cannot imagine any human describing the rebuilding of a large, = double-rise > bellows in place as easy or simple. What materials were used?   I did not say it was easy or simple. What I said was that it is not impossible to learn with the cooperation of kind professions who will = share their knowledge and who would rather see an instrument restore correctly = but not professionally than have it tossed out because money was not available =   for a "professional" restoration. All materials and techniques were used = in accordance with OHS guidelines and the assisting organ builders.   <A HREF=3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Bruce Cornely</A> with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit <A HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502">HowlingAcres</A> = and meet the Baskerbeagles: Duncan, Miles, Molly & Dewi   --part1_4d.17058a2c.29673f98_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 1/4/02 9:59:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, TubaMagna@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I cannot imagine = any human describing the rebuilding of a large, double-rise <BR>bellows in place as easy or simple. What materials were used? = &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I did not say it was easy or simple. &nbsp;What I said was that it is = not impossible to learn with the cooperation of kind professions who will = share their knowledge and who would rather see an instrument restore = correctly but not professionally than have it tossed out because money was = not available for a "professional" restoration. &nbsp;&nbsp;All materials = and techniques were used in accordance with OHS guidelines and the = assisting organ builders. <BR> <BR> &nbsp;<I><A HREF=3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Bruce Cornely</A> </I> <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit &nbsp;<I><A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502">HowlingAcres</A> </I>and meet = the Baskerbeagles: &nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi </FONT></HTML>   --part1_4d.17058a2c.29673f98_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: The Rector From Hell (X-posted) From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:26:19 EST     --part1_15e.6969164.29673fbb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/4/02 10:07:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, opus1100@catoe.org writes:     > ....as our pastor > tells it the Devil has placed many of his followers into pulpits in = God's > Houses...sounds like you got one of them.. >   Whew! I'm so glad people are starting to realize this.   <A HREF=3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Bruce Cornely</A> with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit <A HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502">HowlingAcres</A> = and meet the Baskerbeagles: Duncan, Miles, Molly & Dewi   --part1_15e.6969164.29673fbb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 1/4/02 10:07:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, opus1100@catoe.org writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">....as our pastor <BR>tells it the Devil has placed many of his followers into pulpits in = God's <BR>Houses...sounds like you got one of them.. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Whew! &nbsp;I'm so glad people are starting to realize this. <BR> <BR> &nbsp;<I><A HREF=3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Bruce Cornely</A> </I> <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit &nbsp;<I><A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502">HowlingAcres</A> </I>and meet = the Baskerbeagles: &nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi </FONT></HTML>   --part1_15e.6969164.29673fbb_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: OFF-TOPIC, sorta -- thank you! and some comments (X-posted) From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:31:48 -0500   God, or lack of, what a horror. You poor guy. These are "religious" folk. Seeing as the RC Church has been taken over by the anti-christ and his/her soldiers, there seems to be a similar movement in all christian religions = as of recent. For that matter even Islamic religion seems to be satanized = (not sanitized) these days. Ah, religion human made it, human suffers it. I'll have nothing to do with it. But you, my friend, should get yourself away from such sadistic manipulation. Seek elsewhere. Robert Bernardino Colasacco   -----Original Message----- From: quilisma@socal.rr.com [mailto:quilisma@socal.rr.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:56 AM To: +mailing list, ANGLICAN-MUSIC; organchat; pipechat Subject: OFF-TOPIC, sorta -- thank you! and some comments (X-posted)     Thank you all for your very kind expressions of support, both on and off list! You ARE a major source of support for me.   To answer one poster, isolation IS a big problem, both for the rector and for me. There are only two Anglican Catholic churches in Orange County; there are only FIVE west of the Mississippi, I think. We don't HAVE the structure of retreat houses, etc. that is available in ECUSA or the RC church. There's no place for him to go (or at least no place he WILL go) if he WANTED to make a retreat.   My peers have been less than friendly ... I don't know if that's because of the rector's attitude toward other churches, or what. I sent out a "Hi, y'all" letter to members of the AGO when I first came. I think Ron Severin was the only one who responded, perhaps because he's organist at a very similar parish, St. Mary's RC in Huntington Beach, where they have Tridentine Latin Mass every Sunday. HI, RON! (grin)   I think it's partially because most of the organists around here haven't a CLUE as to what I do on Sunday ... substitutes are virtually impossible to find ... and/or the Rite II ECUSA parishes disapprove of us because of who and what we are. I really don't have much common ground with them ... one of their music directors DID come to Mass at St. Matthew's once or twice ... he plays saxophone in their 11:00 combo; I do Gregorian Chant, Victoriana, and fauxbourdons (grin). He was friendly enough, but we really didn't have much to talk about (chuckle).   As to clergy relations and various psychological observations being off-topic, well ... clergy relations, particularly among RCs and Anglicans, are a MAJOR source of problems, according to the Guild. I think the RCs had the highest incidence, followed by the Anglicans, probably because there are fewer checks and balances than in congregationally-governed churches.   Last night I was advised by someone I respect and trust in the parish NOT to talk to our Archbishop, despite the fact that he's a friend of mine, and a thorough-going anglo-catholic. So I have no recourse. The Rector, by ACC canon law, has SOLE charge of the music and musicians; the Vestry is specifically EXCLUDED from anything to do with liturgy OR music.   I will stay until I can't stand it any longer, and/or I find another job. Then I will leave.   Cheers,   Bud     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: clergy and organists From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:16:24 +1300   No, a different Dean. Ross -----Original Message----- From: Robert Lind <Robert_Lind@cch.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, January 05, 2002 4:57 AM Subject: Re: clergy and organists     > Ross--Is this Westminster Abbey clergyperson the same guy who fired >Simon Preston, Neary's immediate predecessor ( I think), back around = 1987? > > If so, that's quite a track record. > > Robert Lind > > > From: Ross & Lynda Wards <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> on 01/03/2002 >10:30 PM > > Subject: clergy and organists > > > We do all sympathise with you. Sure, there are indeed >clergy-from-hell, as > this List so wonderfully puts it. Remember, one from Westminster >Abbey got > rid of Martin Neary not so long ago - and he was a dear and loveable >family > man as well as being one of the world's best Directors of Music. > > > > > > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: OFF-TOPIC, sorta -- thank you! and some comments From: <Wurlibird1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:41:47 EST   Bud writes:     >Last night I was advised by someone I respect and trust in the parish >NOT to talk to our Archbishop, despite the fact that he's a friend of >mine, and a thorough-going anglo-catholic. So I have no recourse. The >Rector, by ACC canon law, has SOLE charge of the music and musicians; >the Vestry is specifically EXCLUDED from anything to do with liturgy OR >music. <<   Bud, I think this is sage advice for to do so, however discretely, could return to you in a most unfavorable way. If their are parishioners who = share your concern, however, THEY should confront the Archbishop!! Your = friendship aside, the Archbishop will be more influenced by an unhappy parish than a disgruntled organist/music director. In no way does this diminish your capacity or standing. Its the politics which are not and will not be in = your favor.   I do not know Little Ceasar but I know your heart, having read and appreciated your posts over the past year or so. If God put you there, = God will keep you there and sustain you even in the toughest of times. It is distressing to know that your efforts and dedication have met with such results. I wish you well, my friend. Proverbs 16:18 seems to reference = your current rector's behavior. Be patient.   Prayerfully yours, Jim Pitts  
(back) Subject: Re: 9 Hour Messiaen Marathon Played by Paul Jacobs at 4th Pres., Chicago From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:47:03 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_17D5_01C19526.4A66C6F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   As my name is mentioned here, I need to poke my nose in with a quick =3D word. The first paragraph below reminds me of my attendance at the first = =3D (and last?) ever performance, in London, of the Sorabjii Symphony for =3D Organ, which exhausted two organists, Kevin Bowyer and Thomas Trotter. =3D (Kevin went on to record the entire thing, I believe.) With David Liddle = =3D and his Guide Dog, I made a grand exit after the second 50 minute turgid = =3D movement. We were way down front - there was no way to keep our =3D departure a secret. I expect people thought the dog needed to go out. It = =3D was lunch that was really calling - and I had to "go out," too!   As for the Messiaen that Bruce mentions below, it was actually in six =3D concerts rather than three. My reviews of the six can be found in the =3D PipOrg-L Archives, if anyone is interested. As I said in one of them, I = =3D really approached these performances (by Olivier Latry) with some =3D apprehension, not knowing the later (and longer) works at all, but =3D having often heard from some that hearing them through was something of = =3D a trial. I was being perfectly truthful when I said that I found the =3D entire enterprise really very moving and beautiful, from the first note = =3D to the last. The rather complete and broad instrument in its stunning =3D acoustic certainly helped, but it was primarily the music that hooked me = =3D firmly. It should be noted that the attendance at this series grew =3D steadily, and it was quite good to start with. I should also mention =3D that just the previous year, Jon Gillock performed a complete Messiaen =3D cycle at Riverside Church. I was unable to get to any of those, but =3D apparently there was a lot of interest in that, and the attendance also = =3D rose throughout that series.   Doing the complete Messiaen in one big swallow, as Paul is doing, might = =3D be a wonderful total immersion, or it might be wearing, or it might be =3D just a big gimmick. (It's a bit like playing for Yom Kippur - it does go = =3D on, and on, and on, but you feel like you have done something good when = =3D it is over.) I must admit to some bemusement, possibly misplaced, at the = =3D church's advertising something like "come into town, meet friends for =3D dinner, and have a bit of Messiaen on the side." Only the last phrase is = =3D mine! The event begins at around noon and runs into the evening. Well, =3D if we time it right, we can eat during the Ascension Suite, and get back = =3D in time for . . . . . whatever! It just sounded funny to me. I have =3D heard Paul twice. He is an excellent musician and organist, and I have =3D no doubt that whatever he tackles, including these marathon =3D performances, will be done with integrity. I do believe that were I in =3D Chicago, I would be there, as long as I had time to "go out!"   R. I. P. Buddy Clinton. My youngest dog Buddy is named after him.=3D20   Cheers and birdsongs to all,   Malcolm Wechsler   ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Cremona502@cs.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:21 PM Subject: Re: 9 Hour Messiaen Marathon Played by Paul Jacobs at Fourth = =3D Pres byte rian C...       Actually, the way it is done is that when everyone falls asleep during = =3D a particularly tedious piece, you jump down to the bottom of the =3D program!! ;-) When you're close to the end you get a couple of =3D friends to make some noise to wake everyone and then finish with the =3D grande LOUD finale!!! ;-)=3D20   I think listening to the complete works in one sitting of Messiaen =3D would require great fortitude and much Merlot!!! However, Malcolm =3D Weschler as done this in three sittings and posted reviews which made it = =3D sound very enjoyable (of course, nearly anything would please the ears =3D on that biggy Mander!!). It's all in your attitude, I reckon.=3D20   Bruce Cornely=3D20 with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!"=3D20 Visit HowlingAcres and meet the Baskerbeagles: Duncan, Miles, Molly = =3D & Dewi=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_17D5_01C19526.4A66C6F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2712.300" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>As my name is mentioned here, I need = to =3D poke my=3D20 nose in with a quick word. The first paragraph below reminds me of my =3D attendance=3D20 at the first (and last?) ever performance, in London, of the Sorabjii =3D Symphony=3D20 for Organ, which exhausted two organists, Kevin Bowyer and Thomas =3D Trotter.=3D20 (Kevin went on to record the entire thing, I believe.) With David Liddle = =3D and his=3D20 Guide Dog, I made a grand exit after the second 50 minute turgid =3D movement. We=3D20 were way down front - there was no way to keep our departure a secret. I = =3D expect=3D20 people thought the dog needed to go out. It was lunch that was really =3D calling -=3D20 and I had to "go out," too!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>As for the Messiaen that Bruce = mentions =3D below, it=3D20 was actually in six concerts rather than three. My reviews of the six =3D can be=3D20 found in the PipOrg-L Archives, if anyone is interested. As I said in =3D one of=3D20 them, I really approached these performances (by Olivier Latry) with =3D some=3D20 apprehension, not knowing the later (and longer) works at all, but =3D having often=3D20 heard from some that hearing them through was something of a trial. I =3D was being=3D20 perfectly truthful when I said that I found the entire enterprise really = =3D very=3D20 moving and beautiful, from the first note to the last. The rather =3D complete and=3D20 broad instrument in its stunning acoustic certainly helped, but it was =3D primarily=3D20 the music that hooked me firmly. It should be noted that the attendance = =3D at this=3D20 series grew steadily, and it was quite&nbsp;good to start with. I should = =3D also=3D20 mention that just the previous year, Jon Gillock performed a complete =3D Messiaen=3D20 cycle at Riverside Church. I was unable to get to any of those, but =3D apparently=3D20 there was a lot of interest in that, and the attendance also rose =3D throughout=3D20 that series.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Doing the complete Messiaen in one = big =3D swallow, as=3D20 Paul is doing, might be a wonderful total immersion, or it might be =3D wearing, or=3D20 it might be just a big gimmick. (It's a bit like playing for Yom Kippur = =3D - it=3D20 does go on, and on, and on, but you feel like you have done something =3D good when=3D20 it is over.) I must admit to some bemusement, possibly misplaced, at the = =3D   church's advertising something like "come into town, meet friends for =3D dinner,=3D20 and have a bit of Messiaen on the side." Only the last phrase is mine! =3D The event=3D20 begins at around noon and runs into the evening. Well, if we time it =3D right, we=3D20 can eat during the Ascension Suite, and get back in time for . . . . . =3D whatever!=3D20 It just sounded funny to me. I have heard Paul twice. He is an excellent = =3D   musician and organist, and I have no doubt that whatever he tackles, =3D including=3D20 these marathon performances, will be done with integrity. I do believe =3D that were=3D20 I in Chicago, I would be there, as long as I had time to "go =3D out!"</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>R. I. P. Buddy Clinton. My youngest = =3D dog&nbsp;Buddy=3D20 is named after him. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Cheers and birdsongs to =3D all,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Malcolm Wechsler</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DCremona502@cs.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Cremona502@cs.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 04, 2002 = =3D 12:21=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: 9 Hour Messiaen = =3D Marathon=3D20 Played by Paul Jacobs at Fourth Pres byte rian C...</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 =3D face=3D3DArial=3D20 color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"> <DIV><BR>Actually, the way it is done is that when everyone falls =3D asleep=3D20 during a particularly tedious piece, you jump down to the bottom of =3D the=3D20 program!! &nbsp;;-) &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;When you're close to the end you = =3D get a=3D20 couple of friends to make some noise to wake everyone and then finish = =3D with the=3D20 grande LOUD finale!!! &nbsp;;-) <BR><BR>I think listening to the =3D complete=3D20 works in one sitting of Messiaen would require great fortitude and =3D much=3D20 Merlot!!! &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;However, Malcolm Weschler as =3D done this=3D20 in three sittings and posted reviews which made it sound very =3D enjoyable (of=3D20 course, nearly anything would please the ears on that biggy Mander!!). = =3D   &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It's all in your attitude, I reckon. =3D <BR><BR>&nbsp;<I><A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Bruce Cornely</A> </I><BR>with = the=3D20 Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit = =3D   &nbsp;<I><A =3D href=3D3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502">HowlingAcres</A>=3D20 </I>and meet the Baskerbeagles: &nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly &amp; = Dewi=3D20 </FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_17D5_01C19526.4A66C6F0--      
(back) Subject: Re: Happy New Year From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:32:23 -0500   Well, Antoni, coming from you, who once wrote, after hearing the latest Brand X electronic organ, that the days of the Pipe Organ were now officially over, this comment is particularly telling! Without taking even one little thing away from Seb's well-known knowledge and abilities, I = must say, and he would resoundingly agree, that his experience is, in fact, NOT without precedence. As for "How many people like TubaMagna are left = today," you will be shocked to discover that there are many, possibly not speaking on pressure quite as high, or with such unclogged windways, but they are indeed there. I am occasionally a bit of an insomniac, but I could eventually fall asleep by counting organbuilders. Your asking "how many = are left" just follows the pattern of your intimations of the death knell you seem to expect to hear for the Pipe Organ. Pipe Organ building is = incredibly alive in this country, God knows, and throughout the world as well. Builders' order books are very full. Many have wait lists of five or six years. There will always be a place for true art. It will contract and expand over time, but like the light of the church and synagogue, it will endure as long as people have the wit to recognize it for what it is.   Happy New Year to you!   Malcolm Wechsler   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Antoni Scott" <ascott@epix.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:39 AM Subject: Happy New Year     > All: > TubaMagna. His > experience in the field of organ building is without precedence and he > is truly an individual dedicated to the "art" of pipe organ building. > How many people like TubaMagna are left today ? > > > Antoni Scott >        
(back) Subject: Re: The Rector From Hell From: <Icedad@aol.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:55:18 EST     --part1_119.a6dad9e.296762a6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear Merry, I know exactly how you feel in being treated like the hired help. = My Pastor has done that to me numerous times. He will ask clergymen or his wealthy parish friends to join him for dinner and leaves me to play sexton,shut the lights and lock up. LOL RUDE RUDE RUDE!!!   In complaining to my wife and music colleges, they all agree that = the clergy have the worst manners. As a full time Minister of Music in the = same large Catholic Church for over 18 years, I could and perhaps should write = a book. LOL I have risen above the bad manners of clergy and surround myself = with good friends and volunteers and we all go out together, NEVER asking the clergy to join us. It is a shame that the clergy preach how to be a good Christian and show hospitality, then do the opposite. Best in the New = Year!!   Daniel   --part1_119.a6dad9e.296762a6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3>Dear Merry,<BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I know exactly how you feel in being = treated like the hired help. My Pastor has done that to me numerous times. = He will ask clergymen or his wealthy parish friends to join him for dinner = and leaves me to play sexton,shut the lights and lock up. LOL RUDE RUDE = RUDE!!!<BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In complaining to my wife and = music colleges, they all agree that the clergy have the worst manners. As = a full time Minister of Music in&nbsp; the same large Catholic = Church&nbsp; for over 18 years, I <B>could </B>and <B>perhaps </B>should = write a book. LOL<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have risen above the bad manners of = clergy and surround myself with good friends and volunteers and we all go = out together, NEVER asking the clergy to join us. It is a shame that the = clergy preach how to be a good Christian and show hospitality, then do the = opposite. Best in the New Year!!<BR> <BR> Daniel</FONT></HTML>   --part1_119.a6dad9e.296762a6_boundary--  
(back) Subject: 8 Little Bach P&F's Baerenreiter From: "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 15:05:24 -0500   Could someone email me with the volume number for the correct Baerenreiter volume with the 8 little in it?   Thank you!   noel jones gedeckt@usit.net