PipeChat Digest #2633 - Sunday, January 6, 2002
 
Re: socializing with clergy
  by "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com>
Re: socializing with clergy
  by "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com>
Re: What is germane to the list?
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: John L Bell & Graham Maule
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: socializing with clergy
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Bud's rectoral problems
  by "Rodney West" <rodneywest72@yahoo.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #2632 - 01/06/02
  by "Ken_Earl01" <ken_earl01@hotmail.com>
OFF-TOPIC: pecking order
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: socializing with clergy
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: OFF-TOPIC: pecking order (Bud, please read)
  by "Rodney West" <rodneywest72@yahoo.com>
Re: clergy/musician relationships
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
test
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca>
Mozart
  by <MFoxy9795@aol.com>
Belated thanks
  by <MFoxy9795@aol.com>
My Update
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: John L Bell & Graham Maule
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
Anglican clergy and the law
  by "The Schneider Family" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Peace and good will in hell - Epiphany
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: socializing with clergy From: "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 03:38:40 -0800 (PST)   Bud, just serve him some nice humble rice and beans. It's good for you, and it won't hurt him any.   On the other hand, maybe beans and this rector would NOT be a good combination.... already too much hot air!   Dear Vicki:   What a beautiful response to a bizarre situation! That's the best laugh I've had in 30 years!!!   D. Keith Morgan   --- Myosotis51@aol.com wrote: > quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: > > > > > He has taken me out to lunch once, shortly after I > > arrived. I can't AFFORD > > to take HIM out to lunch; I doubt if he'd eat what > I put > > on our table. > > > Bud, just serve him some nice humble rice and beans. > It's good for you, and > it won't hurt him any. > > On the other hand, maybe beans and this rector would > NOT be a good > combination.... already too much hot air! > > XOXOXO > Vicki > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/  
(back) Subject: Re: socializing with clergy From: "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 03:41:01 -0800 (PST)   AMEN!!--- Innkawgneeto@cs.com wrote: > > > > I have learned to park it out of sight way around > to the > > other side of the building where the church meets. > > > > Now, Bud, THIS is getting my blood boiling!! Why? > Why? Why? If it were to be > kind to visitors and offer parking spaces to them, > fine. But this is out and > out "racism" (kinda sorta). If that dear saint in > Birmingham refused to sit > in the rear of the bus, you have absolutely no need > to park out of sight. It > seems to me that your health issues afford you the > right to park as close as > possible. > > Do your cars make the others look bad? Who the heck > cares? It's a church. > At the foot of the cross, ALL are equal in God's > eyes. > > Neil Brown >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/  
(back) Subject: Re: What is germane to the list? From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 03:57:05 -0800   Well, I must accept that there are problems. However I must say that in my denomination I have never met this attitude on the part of the clergy. If one of our ministers behaved like that of Bud, he (she) would soon find himself looking for another Parish, and, considering the small population in this state, might find it hard to get a job with a reputation like that. Incidentally I am also Parish Secretary and so have worked closely with our ministers for the last 22 years in this Parish. I am also Co-organist and choirmaster. The minister taking the service chooses the hymns and gives them to me for the choir practice on Fridays. All other music is chosen by the organists (2). Bob Elms..   Mark Quarmby wrote: > > Bruce has hit the nail on the head. I couldn't agree with him more and = it is not just a US issue. Unfortunately, I can think of several = churches (and cathedrals) just here in Sydney where what he says is = absolutely true. >  
(back) Subject: Re: John L Bell & Graham Maule From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 04:01:21 -0800   The new Australian Hymn Book (Together in Song) has 20 odd of John Bell's hymns and songs in it. Some are very good and in traditional style. Others are chorusy type songs, but still very tuneful. Bob Elms.   > Paul Austin wrote: > Could anybody tell me where I can find information on John L Bell and > Graham Maule. I understand that they have written allot of hymn tunes > to go with words written by the Iona Community. I have searched the > internet but have not found any substantial information.  
(back) Subject: Re: socializing with clergy From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 06:42:35 -0600   When my wife was at school in New York, one of her classmates was met daily in a chauffeur-driven Rolls-Royce. Not wishing to seem flashy, my wife's friend used to get the chauffeur to park the vehicle out of sight round the corner. Perhaps Bud should park his car outside the church and EVERYBODY ELSE should park round the corner.   John Speller   Innkawgneeto@cs.com wrote:   > > > >> I have learned to park it out of sight way >> around to the >> other side of the building where the church >> meets. > > Now, Bud, THIS is getting my blood boiling!! > Why? Why? Why? If it were to be kind to > visitors and offer parking spaces to them, > fine. But this is out and out "racism" (kinda > sorta). If that dear saint in Birmingham > refused to sit in the rear of the bus, you have > absolutely no need to park out of sight. It > seems to me that your health issues afford you > the right to park as close as possible. > > Do your cars make the others look bad? Who the > heck cares? It's a church. At the foot of the > cross, ALL are equal in God's eyes.    
(back) Subject: Bud's rectoral problems From: "Rodney West" <rodneywest72@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 06:14:40 -0800 (PST)   Folks, My letter suggested something on a higher level. I invite your comments, and perhaps we can get off the car subject for a moment. I think we are all agreed that a car is a thing and not important, and that he can park wherever he wants.   Secondly, I'm wondering how old Bud's rector is. The reason is interesting. I'm sure you all will laugh or be shocked, but I can't help wondering if the rector is impotent. Now, before you all scream for my removal from this list, my comment here is in response to an email from a list member suggesting that there might be something chemically wrong with the rector.   Sometimes a man who is having a certain "problem" makes up for his lack of power by taking it out on others. At any rate, Bud should address his problems with the vestry and the bishop. If he doesn't and the problem continues, then there is really no point in complaining.   Now here comes all the bad puns about e-rectoral problems! RW --- "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> wrote: > When my wife was at school in New York, one of her > classmates was met daily in a chauffeur-driven > Rolls-Royce. Not wishing to seem flashy, my > wife's friend used to get the chauffeur to park > the vehicle out of sight round the corner. > Perhaps Bud should park his car outside the church > and EVERYBODY ELSE should park round the corner. > > John Speller > > Innkawgneeto@cs.com wrote: > > > > > > > > >> I have learned to park it out of sight way > >> around to the > >> other side of the building where the church > >> meets. > > > > Now, Bud, THIS is getting my blood boiling!! > > Why? Why? Why? If it were to be kind to > > visitors and offer parking spaces to them, > > fine. But this is out and out "racism" (kinda > > sorta). If that dear saint in Birmingham > > refused to sit in the rear of the bus, you have > > absolutely no need to park out of sight. It > > seems to me that your health issues afford you > > the right to park as close as possible. > > > > Do your cars make the others look bad? Who the > > heck cares? It's a church. At the foot of the > > cross, ALL are equal in God's eyes. > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #2632 - 01/06/02 From: "Ken_Earl01" <ken_earl01@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 14:28:13 -0000   Bud   No one in this life is meant to be saint, so stop trying to be one.   Your rector is the hypocrit, and this makes you both the better person and the better Christian.   Whilst Jesus told us all to turn the other cheek, it is time for you to do so without diminishing your own self value in your own eyes.   Be proud of the fact that you have invested time, energy, and finance, in both preserving and driving, an old vehicle. Be proud of your abilities as a musician. Be proud of your ability to survive and overcome all the obstacles so far put into your life.   It is time for YOU to LOOK DOWN YOUR NOSE at your rector, and start to = treat HIM with the utter contempt which he deserves, and make sure that other people see you doing this, just as he has tried to belittle you in front of others. But, moderate this contempt with both pity and forgiveness.   He is the person with the problem.   He is obviously insecure, unsure of his own abilities, probably even = unsure of his own faith in God, and he is jealous of someone who has a real ability - you - = to make wonderful music.   Ken  
(back) Subject: OFF-TOPIC: pecking order From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 06:55:46 -0800   I wrote our late Archbishop two years ago; he promptly called the Rector; the Rector yelled at me for an hour; "if you EVER contact the Archbishop again, I will fire you INSTANTLY."   I envy the Anglicans in other countries, in some ways. Even in the American Episcopal Church, the Vestry and congregation are relatively powerless. In the rare cases where a Rector IS dismissed, it's invariably with a HUGE separation payment, which most parishes can't afford, so they simply don't DO it. American canon law is like old RC canon law: when a priest is installed as Rector, he is installed as IRREMOVEABLE Rector ... that used to be the title in the RC Church. The RCs don't make Irremoveable Rectors anymore, and in this RC diocese pastors are obliged to "move on" every ten years, unless they're in a building program.   When the Anglican Catholic Church broke away from the Episcopal Church in the 1970s, they STRENGTHENED the position of the clergy in their revision of canon law. As I mentioned, the RECTOR is Chairman of the Vestry, with VETO power. There ARE no checks and balances, either at the local OR the diocesan level. Except for moral turpitude or theft of parish funds, Rectors simply are not disciplined or removed, EVER.   Why do I stay? Well, most on this list are aware of my health problems, and those of my partner. I'm not able to work a 9-to-5 anymore, or I could go back to newspaper work or typesetting. Going to another parish and starting over again is daunting at my age. The only possibility I see is returning to an historic anglo-catholic parish where I was Interim O/C in the '60s. The present O/C is a great friend of mine; he's about ten years older, and ready to retire. But that would involve a cross-country move and changing healthcare plans. The latter would be difficult if not impossible to do, because of all our pre-existent conditions. Oh, it could be DONE, particularly if the church had a group health plan, but I don't think they do. And if they DON'T, it would be HORRIBLY expensive.   Finally, the number of full-time O/C positions was very small to begin with, and it's shrinking at an alarming rate. If I'm not mistaken, I'm the ONLY full-time O/C in the County, Anglican OR Episcopal. All the others are in protestant mega-churches like the Crystal Cathedral, Calvary Chapel, etc.   So I just muddle through ... things get particularly bad, I whine onlist (grin); things get better, I shut up.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: socializing with clergy From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 10:08:17 EST   Innkawgneeto@cs.com wrote:       > Do your cars make the others look bad? =A0Who the > heck cares? =A0It's a church. =A0At the foot of the cross, > ALL are equal in God's eyes.   I had a 1966 Cutlass (in 1990), the best car I could afford, that was little= =20 more than a colander on wheels with all its rust. The paint had long since=20 met its Maker, so it was kinda pale orange. The floor was plywood. But it=20 had a 330 with a 4BBL carb, and it was fun - lots of engine, no more body=20 weight. :-)   Well, I live in the Hamptons. I took great delight in leaving this car with= =20 valet parking, amidst the Hummers and the Rolls and the Ferraris, and=20 reminding the parking attendant that it was a classic!   Bud, park wherever it's easiest for YOU. I would imagine you have a=20 handicapped parking permit, which allows you to almost park IN the building.= =20 Go for it. What's the rector gonna do, have your legally-parked, legally=20 registered car TOWED? And, gee, wouldn't that cause a fuss!!   Vicki  
(back) Subject: Re: OFF-TOPIC: pecking order (Bud, please read) From: "Rodney West" <rodneywest72@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 07:19:37 -0800 (PST)   Dear Bud, I don't know what your health problems are, but I get an idea from your description.   Again, refer to my letter about keeping a written record of all your interaction with the rector.   Secondly, if you are HIV-positive, you may want to schedule a meeting with your lawyer and consult about your options for a wrongful dismissal lawsuit should you be terminated.   This job should not cause you to become sick. And you should be thoroughly aware of your legal rights.   If you are involved in a same-sex partnership, and your state has protective measures of same, then you may find evidence on the part of your rector that he is treating you badly because of your sexuality.   Any gay rights or HIV-AIDS support organization usually has referal information about good lawyers who are sympathetic and may take on a case for little or no charge (pro bono).   You may have a whopping great case if he dismisses you. I think it is indicative of something that he hasn't done this yet. He seems to prefer having you around to beat up on you.   In the long run, it may be worth you taking another job, even if it involves a move cross country. There are many full-time openings advertised.   God bless you, RW     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/  
(back) Subject: Re: clergy/musician relationships From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:17:11 EST     --part1_98.1f878697.2969e097_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/6/02 4:27:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, TheShieling@xtra.co.nz writes:     > And why the > kilt? For several reasons - > > 2. I like showing my family roots >   EEEEK!   <A HREF=3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Bruce Cornely</A> with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit <A HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502">HowlingAcres</A> = and meet the Baskerbeagles: Duncan, Miles, Molly & Dewi   --part1_98.1f878697.2969e097_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 1/6/02 4:27:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, TheShieling@xtra.co.nz writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">And why the <BR>kilt? For several reasons - <BR> <BR>2. I like showing my family roots <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>EEEEK! <BR> <BR> &nbsp;<I><A HREF=3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Bruce Cornely</A> </I> <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit &nbsp;<I><A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502">HowlingAcres</A> </I>and meet = the Baskerbeagles: &nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi </FONT></HTML>   --part1_98.1f878697.2969e097_boundary--  
(back) Subject: test From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:59:22 -0400   I am having real problems getting my email set up. I have formatted my = com Hopefully the email will work now Daniel      
(back) Subject: Mozart From: <MFoxy9795@aol.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 13:05:30 EST     sorry list:   > the second is similar to a chorale prelude based on the > famous choral piece ... and is something i use a lot.   this must have sounded kind of weird. i meant to go back and insert Ave Verum Corpus but i was drawing a blank and couldn't think of the name!! Merry  
(back) Subject: Belated thanks From: <MFoxy9795@aol.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 13:12:09 EST   Belated thanks to the half dozen of you on this list and the Vocalist list =   who responded to my request for soprano solos. The choir ended up doing = the hymn tune Chartres today with the second verse a cappella. unfortunately = i didn't have the chance to dig out any organ music based on it. (there is = a piece by Franck, for one thing, that i am sure uses that tune - it is = called Offertoire for Midnight Mass). There was a Haydn piece (Benedictus from = one of the masses) she wanted to do which I thought was going to be too = involved at first, but it turns out she can do it fine. Merry  
(back) Subject: My Update From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 14:19:23 -0400   Anyways, Now that I see my email is working again. I will update you on = what I did this week. I went to Lunenburg earlier thsi week. There isnt much difference in the = scene other than it is cleaned up some and the walls of the church have been stabelized.THe coccoon supposed to = arrive thsi week to protect what is left standing from the elements.I was to the Church office and had a nice chat = with the Secretary. They are very pleased that we have taken such an interest in them with the determination = to get a Pipe Organ. They will settle with nothing other then the real thing. once the time comes to think of = such a thing. they need all the encouragement they can get. P.S. I am having a few pictures scanned of the church in its former Glory. One = of the exterior and one of the interior. To anyone who is interested please let me know . I will email them to = anyone who may want them. It will be sometime within the next week   Hope you all had a good Holiday season .     Danielwh        
(back) Subject: Re: John L Bell & Graham Maule From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 13:32:11 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000F_01C196B6.8BA364C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi Paul,   Many of John Bell's compositions may be obtained through GIA in Chicago. = =3D He conducted a fabulous concert of his works and was one of the course = =3D leaders at the July NPM convention in Washington, DC. The St. James =3D Choir included two of his works in the Advent/Christmas season: An =3D Advent Lullaby and Sing Gloria. GIA also has a CD of his anthems =3D performed by the Cathedral Singers with John Bell conducting.   Best regards,   Bonnie Beth   Bonnie Beth Derby, B Mus; M. Mus Organist/Director of Music, St. James Roman Catholic Church, Syracuse, =3D New York Producer/Host Orgelwerke and Choral Traditions, WCNY-FM, Syracuse; =3D WUNY-FM, Utica; WJNY-FM, Watertown, www.wcny.org e-mail: orge@dreamscape.com =3D20 ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Paul Austin=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 6:47 AM Subject: John L Bell & Graham Maule         Dear list,   Could anybody tell me where I can find information on John L Bell and = =3D Graham Maule. I understand that they have written allot of hymn tunes =3D to go with words written by the Iona Community. I have searched the =3D internet but have not found any substantial information.   Thankyou in advance.   Paul.   paul-austin@ntlworld.com or paul_austin75@hotmail.com Billingham - UK   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000F_01C196B6.8BA364C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2712.300" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi Paul,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Many of John Bell's compositions may = be =3D obtained=3D20 through GIA in Chicago.&nbsp;&nbsp;He&nbsp;conducted a fabulous concert = =3D of his=3D20 works and was one of the course&nbsp;leaders&nbsp;at the = July&nbsp;NPM=3D20 convention in Washington, DC.&nbsp;&nbsp;The St. James Choir included =3D two of his=3D20 works in the Advent/Christmas season:&nbsp; <EM>An Advent Lullaby</EM> =3D and=3D20 <EM>Sing Gloria.</EM> GIA also has a CD of his anthems performed by = the=3D20 Cathedral Singers with John Bell conducting.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Bonnie Beth</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Bonnie Beth Derby, B Mus; M. =3D Mus</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Organist/Director of Music, St. James = =3D Roman=3D20 Catholic Church, Syracuse, New York</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Producer/Host <EM>Orgelwerke</EM> and = =3D <EM>Choral=3D20 Traditions</EM>, WCNY-FM, Syracuse; WUNY-FM, Utica; WJNY-FM, Watertown, = =3D <A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.wcny.org">www.wcny.org</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>e-mail: <A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:orge@dreamscape.com">orge@dreamscape.com</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;&n= =3D bsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3Dpaul-austin@ntlworld.com =3D href=3D3D"mailto:paul-austin@ntlworld.com">Paul=3D20 Austin</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 05, =3D 2002 6:47=3D20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> John L Bell &amp; =3D Graham=3D20 Maule</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Dear list,</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Could anybody tell me where I can find information = =3D on John L=3D20 Bell and Graham Maule.&nbsp; I understand that they have written allot = =3D   of&nbsp;hymn tunes to go with words written by the Iona =3D Community.&nbsp; I=3D20 have searched the internet but have not found any substantial=3D20 information.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Thankyou in advance.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Paul.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:paul-austin@ntlworld.com">paul-austin@ntlworld.com</A> = =3D or <A=3D20 =3D href=3D3D"mailto:paul_austin75@hotmail.com">paul_austin75@hotmail.com</A><B= =3D R>Billingham=3D20 - UK</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000F_01C196B6.8BA364C0--      
(back) Subject: Anglican clergy and the law From: "The Schneider Family" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:15:57 -0600   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: > I wrote our late Archbishop two years ago; he promptly called the > Rector; the Rector yelled at me for an hour; "if you EVER contact the > Archbishop again, I will fire you INSTANTLY."   Then I would contact a LAWYER and file your lawsuit because this is INTIMIDATION, Pure and simple! It is illegal and you can bring charges for this kind of activity. Sounds to me that both the A.B. and the Rector have "closed ranks" against you.   If the church won't protect you, then I'd start looking for legal means. This is wrong and there are laws against it.   Faithfully, Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Pipe Organ Builders 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arpschneider@starband.net HOME EMAIL mailto:arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com WEB PAGE URL  
(back) Subject: Peace and good will in hell - Epiphany From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 13:56:18 -0600   The Feast of Epiphany St. Agatha's Episcopal Church DeFuniak Springs, Florida     Prelude: How bright appears the Morning Star (Wie schon leuchtet der Morgenstern; text H 497) - Dietrich Buxtehude (c. 1637 - 1707) We three kings of Orient are (text H 128) Processional Hymn: Brightest and best of the stars Morning Star) - H 117 Gloria in excelsis (Powell) Sequence Hymn: Earth has many a noble city Stuttgart) - H 127 Offertory Hymn: As with gladness men of old (Dix) - H 119 Eucharistic Prayer A Sanctus/Benedictus (Powell) Agnus Dei (Willan) Music during Communion: Nazareth - Charles Gounod (1818 - 1893) Closing Hymn: Songs of thankfulness and praise (Salzburg) - H 135 Fanfare - Nicolas Jacques Lemmens (1823 - 1881)   A very sedate service today - attendance was down. A good time was had by all. Even biddies were absent or in a jolly mood.   The tree now looks like a poster child for the ravages of the powder post beetle. We managed to get all but the very top and bottom down. The angel was resigned to her fate, and not unhappy to be untied and placed lovingly back in her box until next year's reenactment.   Deon, you alluded to two tunes unfamiliar to me - Epiphany and Kilmarnock. Could you hum a few bars for me?   Would anyone happen to have an English translation for the words to the "Prayer" in Humperdinck's "Hansel and Gretel"? I could use them.   Thanks to all who responded to the Mozart inquiry. I work two jobs next week and until the new one officially starts around the 15th.   Cheers on this dismal Sunday in Florida where no snow precipitated,   Glenda Sutton