PipeChat Digest #2653 - Monday, January 14, 2002
 
Re: Choral suggestions?
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: Choral suggestions?
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Choral suggestions?
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: small organs for RC churches
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Suggestions for Lenten Concert??
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
RE: PLEASE READ Re: Off topic - plain text
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
The Stainer
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Job Posting Suggestions
  by "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.c
Re: Choral suggestions?
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: small organs for RC churches
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
GOUNOD "Seven Last Words"
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Suggestions for Lenten Concert??
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
"Seven Last Words"
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: GOUNOD "Seven Last Words"
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: Choral suggestions?
  by "Randy Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: GOUNOD "Seven Last Words"
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: GOUNOD "Seven Last Words"
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Choral suggestions? From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 02:09:28 -0800 (PST)     K Lee Scott has a nice a capella piece NONE OTHER LAMB. I suspect this may = be known by most people now but if one wanted a quality piece it is nice.   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry, Director of Music Ministry & Organist Mona Dena, Assistant & Principal Conductor The Episcopal Church of St. Peter 178 Clinton Street Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/  
(back) Subject: Re: Choral suggestions? From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 09:29:42 -0400   I am thinking of doing Stainer's "The Crucifixion" for our Maunday = Thursday service, which doesn't quite fit I know, as it would be better done on = Good Friday, but everyone comes on Thursday and few attend the Friday service. Has anyone out there done it and have any advice? I think I'll have to = make some cuts, as a CD I have of it runs 65+ minutes.   By the way, does anyone know of James Hotchiss Rogers' "The Man of Nazareth"? I obtained a copy on interlibrary loan, and it is as melodic = as his delightful organ music. It's out of print, and possibly even out of copyright.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: Choral suggestions? From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 09:48:02 -0400   on 1/13/02 9:29 PM, quilisma@socal.rr.com at quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:     > If you can locate a copy of Charles Wood's "Passion According to St. = Luke" > (?), > I think it is, there are some WONDERFUL things that can be excerpted, > particularly the Institution Narrative for Maundy Thursday ... I think = it was > Faith Press ... it's LONG out of print. > > There is a GOUNOD "Seven Last Words" (Novello) ... a cappella ... the = last > chorus goes into eight parts ... it's GORGEOUS, if you can find it. I = think > Novello has "reprint on demand." If not, I probably should make a new = edition > of > it ... I think I still have it around here somewhere. >     I think that's St. Mark, not Luke. Is the Gounod "Seven Last Words" from his "Redemption"?     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: small organs for RC churches From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:56:11 -0600   How about the exciting and inspiring recital Jason Pedeaux played for the recent New Orleans Organ Odyssey! The organ is an 8 stop c1918 Hinners in St. John the Baptist Catholic Church in Edgard, Louisiana. The church seats about 800 and has wonderful acoustics. Jason's grandmother played it for many years, and the concert was dedicated to her memory. The organ has had minimal maintenance over they years. The stoplist:   Great 8' Open Diapason 8' Melodia 8' Dulciana   Swell 8' Violin Diapason 8' Stopped Diapason 8' Echo Salicional 4' Harmonic Flute   Pedal 16' Bourdon Mechanical key and stop action gt to pd, sw to pd, sw to gt, gt to gt octave   Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 1/11/02 1:23:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, > quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: > > > >> GREAT >> >> 8' Open Diapason >> 8' Harmonic Flute >> 8' Gemshorn - voiced toward the stringy side >> 4' Octave >> 2' Fifteenth >> >> >> SWELL >> >> 8' Stopped Diapason >> 8' Viola >> 8' Celeste >> 4' Chimney Flute >> 8' Oboe >> >> PEDAL >> >> 16' Bourdon - BIG scale, but not TOO loud >> 16' Stopped Diapason - 12 pipes - ext. Swell 8' >> >> I'm presuming FULL couplers, electric action, and the Swell >> enclosed. > > I agree with this, but would rather have a nice, warm Gamba on the > Great, which will give the bite and reediness of a good mixture, yet > still remain very useable with the Harmonic Flute and Diapason as > well. > > Bruce Cornely > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Visit HowlingAcres and meet the Baskerbeagles: Duncan, Miles, Molly > & Dewi    
(back) Subject: Suggestions for Lenten Concert?? From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 07:09:59 -0800 (PST)   Our rector began a tradition of hosting a sacred concert on Monday of Holy = Week, and I am having a hard time this year getting started. Two years ago I had a soprano soloist = and the program was divided equally between solo organ pieces and solo voice.   Last year I had more time and since our singers were all women I chose the = Faure Messe Basse and Ave Verum, and hired a couple of ringers, the organ was in various stages = of swapping out and adding pipes so the organ solos were limited to three Orgelbuchlien = preludes at the beginning.   The organ, at least the tonal part, is better than ever, with the swell = really becoming an independent division able to function properly. We want to continue the = tradition of a mixed program, but the choir has grown to include (only) one male, and some of = the newer singers are not as confident as others. I am having to really budget carefully this year = and can't hire any ringers.   Does anyone have any suggestions for 2 part pieces (SA) where the melody = can be sung by a "low" tenor? We don't want to exclude anyone, and only need to have a couple of = choir pieces and they can be short.   Organ suggestions are also welcome. I am currently spending the majority = of my extra time practicing for the organ dedication which will be in the fall. I am = concentrating on the Bach Fantasia and Fugue in g and Mulet Carillon-Sortie right now, and I think I = have decided to play a Lubeck Praeludium in C for the opening piece. I thought I would do the = Bruhns G Major, but after dragging it out it would be longer than I want to devote to the opening = piece. I have to figure out the inner pieces.   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry, Director of Music Ministry & Organist Mona Dena, Assistant & Principal Conductor The Episcopal Church of St. Peter 178 Clinton Street Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/  
(back) Subject: RE: PLEASE READ Re: Off topic - plain text From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 09:30:34 -0600   This may be why Karl Moyer keeps saying he gets attachments that he can't open.   -----Original Message----- From: Ed Steltzer [mailto:steltzer@gwi.net] Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 4:06 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: PLEASE READ Re: Off topic - plain text     .....hoping to help, and not further confuse.....   I looked up "Plain text" in Outlook Express Help; under HTML I noticed = the following:   >>>"When you use HTML formatting and the recipient's mail or news program does not read HTML, the message appears as plain text with an HTML file attached"<<<<   .....which reinforces the need to send in plain text, and may explain why "attachments" are sometimes appearing unbidden. Ed, in Maine   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 2:00 PM Subject: RE: PLEASE READ Re: Off topic - plain text     > On the newer versions of Outlook, you have to do a little more than what > Malcolm said to correct the malady. Under "Tools" you have to select........... > > Glenda Sutton       "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: The Stainer From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:47:45 -0500   Randy and List,   I don't think I realized how wonderful is this oratorio until I heard = Barry Rose's recording with Guildford, which I had (and hopefully still have somewhere) on a cassette tape. He does some cuts, and if I recall = correctly, these were done with/to the hymns, some of which were, I think, eliminated completely. I always felt that those wonderful Stainer Victorian = hymntunes, used as commentary very like the chorales in the St. Matthew Passion, were part of the genius of the work, but cutting those unfamiliar to your congregation might save you considerable time, and still leave them to = sing the ones that many people know and love.   Some years ago, I took a long interim job at a Presbyterian church that = had always done The Crucifixion during Holy Week, and so I got to do it for = the first time. My reaction certainly was not at odds with the incredible popularity of this work in lots of churches over many years. I simply = could not get it out of my head for months after we performed it.   Because I am busy with my own Good Friday services, I have never been able to hear it at The Brick Church in New York, where Keith Toth keeps up a = long tradition of yearly performances, but I suspect that might well be the definitive performance in this area. The first American performance of the work, much reviled as junk during my student days, by the way, was in Baltimore, at St. Luke's Church. On the 70th anniversary of that event, I have been told, some of the great figures in church music in the Baltimore/Washington area banded together, hired the best singers and soloists, and, at St. Luke's, presented a stellar anniversary performance. Oh, to have been there!   Repeat after me: M-A-U-N-D-Y!   Good luck with it.   Malcolm Wechsler   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 8:29 AM Subject: Re: Choral suggestions?     > I am thinking of doing Stainer's "The Crucifixion" for our Maunday Thursday > service, which doesn't quite fit I know, as it would be better done on Good > Friday, but everyone comes on Thursday and few attend the Friday = service. > Has anyone out there done it and have any advice? I think I'll have to make > some cuts, as a CD I have of it runs 65+ minutes. >        
(back) Subject: Job Posting Suggestions From: "BridgewaterUMC Director of Music" <bridgewatermusic@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:57:03 -0500   Happy Monday all!   Our music program has grown to the extent that I am in need of an = assistant. Ive always been the solo staff person and have never had to advertise or =   work through the application process. Needless to say, Im learning alot = on the fly!   I plan to advertise on the AGO website, but wanted some additional = coverage. Other than sending mailings to college music departments, are there any other sites I should consider? Thanks in advance for your help!   Craig       _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx    
(back) Subject: Re: Choral suggestions? From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:03:07 EST     --part1_2d.16c4f296.2974694b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/14/02 9:31:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, runyonr@muohio.edu writes:     > I think I'll have to make > some cuts, as a CD I have of it runs 65+ minutes. >   I would hope that cute would not be necessary. I think when people come = to hear something of this kind they don't mind the extra time. Even if = there is service with it, an hour and forty-five minutes does not seem too = daunting.   Go for the whole enchilada!   <A HREF=3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Bruce Cornely</A> with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit <A HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502">HowlingAcres</A> = and meet the Baskerbeagles: Duncan, Miles, Molly & Dewi   --part1_2d.16c4f296.2974694b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 1/14/02 9:31:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, runyonr@muohio.edu writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I think I'll have = to make <BR>some cuts, as a CD I have of it runs 65+ minutes. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I would hope that cute would not be necessary. &nbsp;&nbsp;I think = when people come to hear something of this kind they don't mind the extra = time. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Even if there is service with it, an hour and = forty-five minutes does not seem too daunting. <BR> <BR>Go for the whole enchilada! <BR> <BR> &nbsp;<I><A HREF=3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Bruce Cornely</A> </I> <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit &nbsp;<I><A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502">HowlingAcres</A> </I>and meet = the Baskerbeagles: &nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi </FONT></HTML>   --part1_2d.16c4f296.2974694b_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: small organs for RC churches From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:05:51 EST     --part1_192.10da626.297469ef_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/14/02 9:58:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, I sure would have enjoyed the NewOrleans OHS. Sadly, I didn't get the = OHS bug until the year after I moved from NewOrleans. Such a nice little organ... and all that UPPERWORK!!! ;-)   rredman@imagin.net writes:     > Great > 8' Open Diapason > 8' Melodia > 8' Dulciana > > Swell > 8' Violin Diapason > 8' Stopped Diapason > 8' Echo Salicional > 4' Harmonic Flute > > Pedal > 16' Bourdon >       <A HREF=3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Bruce Cornely</A> with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit <A HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502">HowlingAcres</A> = and meet the Baskerbeagles: Duncan, Miles, Molly & Dewi   --part1_192.10da626.297469ef_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 1/14/02 9:58:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, <BR>I sure would have enjoyed the NewOrleans OHS. &nbsp;&nbsp;Sadly, I = didn't get the OHS bug until the year after I moved from NewOrleans. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Such a nice little organ... and all that UPPERWORK!!! = &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>rredman@imagin.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Great <BR>8' &nbsp;Open Diapason <BR>8' &nbsp;Melodia <BR>8' &nbsp;Dulciana <BR> <BR>Swell <BR>8' &nbsp;Violin Diapason <BR>8' &nbsp;Stopped Diapason <BR>8' &nbsp;Echo Salicional <BR>4' &nbsp;Harmonic Flute <BR> <BR>Pedal <BR>16' Bourdon <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR> <BR> &nbsp;<I><A HREF=3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Bruce Cornely</A> </I> <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit &nbsp;<I><A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502">HowlingAcres</A> </I>and meet = the Baskerbeagles: &nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi </FONT></HTML>   --part1_192.10da626.297469ef_boundary--  
(back) Subject: GOUNOD "Seven Last Words" From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 09:32:12 -0800       Randolph Runyon wrote:   > Is the Gounod "Seven Last Words" from > his "Redemption"? > > Randy Runyon > Music Director > Zion Lutheran Church > Hamilton, Ohio > runyonr@muohio.edu >   I have no idea. I've never seen it except as a stand-alone octavo. I = rescued a tattered copy from inside the organ-case of the derelict Koehnken & Grimm = (now gone) in St. Xavier Church in downtown Cincinnati in the 1970s. Evidently = they used to sing it for the preaching of the Tre Ore on Good Friday before they = replaced it with the Dubois setting.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Suggestions for Lenten Concert?? From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:44:33 -0500   Well, Randy, if you want to sell a million tickets, I have just the = things. There is a very nice SA arrangement of the Bach Jesu, Joy of Man's = Desiring, arranged by none other than Wallingford Riegger, copyright 1940 by Harold Flammer. And if that is not enough, there is also an interesting, somewhat creative "Duet for High and Low Voice" arrangement of the Franck Panis Angelicus by the great English arranger, Bryceson Treharne, published by Boston Music Company in 1933. You can kind of think of the Jesu Joy text = as reasonably justifiable for Lent, if you relax a bit. It's one of those pieces that work at weddings, bar mitzvahs, funerals, the whole lot. The English text often provided with Panis, unrelated to the Latin original, = is o.k. for Lent as well - I have spoken (ex cathedra, of course)!   I recall an LP recording of choral music by a once famous Roman Catholic church musician in New York many years ago (in the LP era!), which had on the cover in rather small type, "A recording by our choir of beloved = sacred choral music, including [in suddenly huge type] PANIS ANGELICUS. They had = to run to a second pressing! So, there's a hint for your advertising = campaign!!   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:09 AM Subject: Suggestions for Lenten Concert??       > Does anyone have any suggestions for 2 part pieces (SA) where the melody can be sung by a "low" > tenor? We don't want to exclude anyone, and only need to have a couple = of choir pieces and they > can be short.        
(back) Subject: "Seven Last Words" From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:50:42 -0500   If memory serves me right, the seven last words of an organist is, "Let me have the check BEFORE I leave." Please is no longer an option. And stated = to the Pastor, Rector, Vicar, Beelzibub, whatever he's called in your particular denomination. R.B.Colasacco  
(back) Subject: Re: GOUNOD "Seven Last Words" From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:42:53 -0500     >> Is the Gounod "Seven Last Words" from >> his "Redemption"? >> No. It was a separate work. You can purchase the full score from Kalmus, and it's worth a careful study, including the (like) use of the French romantic organ "l'effete du orage" at the "earthquake" scene, when the graves of the dead are opened, et al.   Permit a question here with a long preface: The score also indicates that the transition to the closing chorale is to be played by the Grand Orgue, assuming that the choir and orchestra performed from the front of the church and used the front choir organ. Woudl that use of the Grand Orgue give some sense of the congregation's participation in that chorale, even if only vicariously, since that organ and not the front choir accompaniment organ would likely have been used = for congregational singing whenever it occurred? After all, in this work, = once the earthquake scene is over, the orchestra plays no more, and it's the Grand Orgue that finishes the work, if I recall that score correctly. (I don't have the score handy now but conducted it with orchestra and organ YEARS ago and where the organ was in the rear gallery - where it = belongs. Can anyone attest to or correct my memory?)   Gounod's oratorio _The Redemption_ gets very few hearings. It is the source of an old-time favorite Ascension Day anthem "Unford, Ye Portals Everlasting." Wow, who of us is still singing THAT piece? The Kalmus orchdestral catalog also lists that as available in score and parts.   Cordially,   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA    
(back) Subject: Re: Choral suggestions? From: "Randy Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:07:18 -0500   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1201087256=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" ; format=3D"flowed"   > >I would hope that cute would not be necessary.       Aw, cute is nice. Except maybe for Lent.   Randy Runyon runyonr@muohio.edu Music Director Zion Lutheran Church, Hamilton, Ohio --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1201087256=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=3D"us-ascii"   <excerpt>   <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>I would hope that cute would not be necessary.   </smaller></fontfamily></excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>       Aw, cute is nice. Except maybe for Lent. </smaller></fontfamily>   Randy Runyon   runyonr@muohio.edu   Music Director   Zion Lutheran Church, Hamilton, Ohio   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1201087256=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D--  
(back) Subject: Re: GOUNOD "Seven Last Words" From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:05:35 -0800   I think there's some confusion here ... GOUNOD'S "Seven Last Words" is a cappella, going into eight parts for the final chorus. I think you're = speaking of the DUBOIS "Seven Last Words", which evidently replaced the Goundon at = St. Xavier at some point.   Cheers,   Bud   Karl Moyer wrote:   > >> Is the Gounod "Seven Last Words" from > >> his "Redemption"? > >> > No. It was a separate work. You can purchase the full score from > Kalmus, and it's worth a careful study, including the (like) use of the > French romantic organ "l'effete du orage" at the "earthquake" scene, = when > the graves of the dead are opened, et al. > > Permit a question here with a long preface: > The score also indicates that the transition to the closing chorale = is > to be played by the Grand Orgue, assuming that the choir and orchestra > performed from the front of the church and used the front choir organ. > Woudl that use of the Grand Orgue give some sense of the congregation's > participation in that chorale, even if only vicariously, since that = organ > and not the front choir accompaniment organ would likely have been used = for > congregational singing whenever it occurred? After all, in this work, = once > the earthquake scene is over, the orchestra plays no more, and it's the > Grand Orgue that finishes the work, if I recall that score correctly. = (I > don't have the score handy now but conducted it with orchestra and organ > YEARS ago and where the organ was in the rear gallery - where it = belongs. > Can anyone attest to or correct my memory?) > > Gounod's oratorio _The Redemption_ gets very few hearings. It is = the > source of an old-time favorite Ascension Day anthem "Unford, Ye Portals > Everlasting." Wow, who of us is still singing THAT piece? The = Kalmus > orchdestral catalog also lists that as available in score and parts. > > Cordially, > > Karl E. Moyer > Lancaster PA > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: GOUNOD "Seven Last Words" From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:40:12 -0500   OOPS!!!! Yes!! Sorry. and Thanks to Bud for this correction.   Karl   > From: quilisma@socal.rr.com > Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:05:35 -0800 > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Subject: Re: GOUNOD "Seven Last Words" > > I think there's some confusion here ... GOUNOD'S "Seven Last Words" is a > cappella, going into eight parts for the final chorus. I think you're = speaking > of the DUBOIS "Seven Last Words", which evidently replaced the Goundon = at St. > Xavier at some point. > > Cheers, > > Bud > > Karl Moyer wrote: > >>>> Is the Gounod "Seven Last Words" from >>>> his "Redemption"? >>>> >> No. It was a separate work. You can purchase the full score from >> Kalmus, and it's worth a careful study, including the (like) use of the >> French romantic organ "l'effete du orage" at the "earthquake" scene, = when >> the graves of the dead are opened, et al. >> >> Permit a question here with a long preface: >> The score also indicates that the transition to the closing chorale is >> to be played by the Grand Orgue, assuming that the choir and orchestra >> performed from the front of the church and used the front choir organ. >> Woudl that use of the Grand Orgue give some sense of the congregation's >> participation in that chorale, even if only vicariously, since that = organ >> and not the front choir accompaniment organ would likely have been used = for >> congregational singing whenever it occurred? After all, in this work, = once >> the earthquake scene is over, the orchestra plays no more, and it's the >> Grand Orgue that finishes the work, if I recall that score correctly. = (I >> don't have the score handy now but conducted it with orchestra and = organ >> YEARS ago and where the organ was in the rear gallery - where it = belongs. >> Can anyone attest to or correct my memory?) >> >> Gounod's oratorio _The Redemption_ gets very few hearings. It is the >> source of an old-time favorite Ascension Day anthem "Unford, Ye Portals >> Everlasting." Wow, who of us is still singing THAT piece? The = Kalmus >> orchdestral catalog also lists that as available in score and parts. >> >> Cordially, >> >> Karl E. Moyer >> Lancaster PA >> >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >