PipeChat Digest #2671 - Sunday, January 27, 2002
 
Prison Erben
  by "William T. Van Pelt III" <wvanpelt@erols.com>
Prison Pipe Organ
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: Prison Pipe Organ
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Prison Pipe Organ
  by <ContraReed@aol.com>
Re: Prison Pipe Organ
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net>
Plainsong for an induction
  by "Stephen Barker" <steve@ststephenscanterbury.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Plainsong for an induction
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net>
Easter Song
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Plainsong for an induction
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Theatre and "other type organists"
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
RE: Easter Song
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net>
Re: Plainsong for an induction
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Plainsong for an induction
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
 

(back) Subject: Prison Erben From: "William T. Van Pelt III" <wvanpelt@erols.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:39:34 -0500   Rick Maryman writes: "There is a mechanical-action organ in the Augusta (County) Correctional Center here in Staunton, VA."   Yes, the organ was built in 1851 by Henry Erben and was delivered to what was then the Insane Asylum. I visited the organ in the late 1970s (not as an inmate, but as a representative of OHS at the invitation of the chaplain) and found it quite a fine survival of Erben's work. It is of one manual and pedal and in almost unplayable condition, but entirely intact (at that time). And, it is a "larger" version of Erben's 1-manual organs, with ingenius registrational aids.   Bill  
(back) Subject: Prison Pipe Organ From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 09:43:10 -0500   I recall there being an Estey pipe organ in the old Worcester MA Jail, I don't have my notes handy, but it at one time was moved, possibly into a church. There was a Hook & Hastings tracker in the old Chapel at = Worcester State Hospital, an institution for mentally ill, that organ exists in = sorry condition, at UMass, Amherst, at least was there 10 years ago. There were H&H trackers in other Mass. state institutions also. Judy Ollikkala  
(back) Subject: Re: Prison Pipe Organ From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 09:02:02 -0600   Quite a few mental hospitals on both sides of the Atlantic used to have pipe organs, and I think there are still a few around. The hospital at Tone Vale near my home town of Taunton in England bought a new pipe organ, built the local firm of Osmond, I think as late as the 1960's. The Hook & Hastings organ now in Millersville University, Pennsylvania, came from a state hospital as I recall. Music therapy was long felt to be desirable in the case of mental illness, and this goes back to biblical times. You will recall that David first came to court to play the harp to soothe the demented King Saul. Ernest M. Skinner produced a number of small "clinic" organs that could actually be played by patients in their beds. Alas, none of these instruments appear to have survived.   John Speller   Judy A. Ollikkala wrote: > > I recall there being an Estey pipe organ in the old Worcester MA Jail, I > don't have my notes handy, but it at one time was moved, possibly into a > church. There was a Hook & Hastings tracker in the old Chapel at = Worcester > State Hospital, an institution for mentally ill, that organ exists in = sorry > condition, at UMass, Amherst, at least was there 10 years  
(back) Subject: Re: Prison Pipe Organ From: <ContraReed@aol.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:40:29 EST   In a message dated 1/26/02 10:06:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, jlspeller@mindspring.com writes:   << Quite a few mental hospitals on both sides of the Atlantic used to have pipe organs, and I think there are still a few around. >>   Spring Grove State Hospital just outside of Baltimore, MD (and about one = mile from my house), has a theater organ in it's auditorium. However, it was placed there because the space was available to the local ATOS chapter. = They use it regularly for concerts.  
(back) Subject: Re: Prison Pipe Organ From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:44:20 -0500   Is that where they get "looney tunes" from? ;o)   ContraReed@aol.com wrote:   > In a message dated 1/26/02 10:06:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, > jlspeller@mindspring.com writes: > > << Quite a few mental hospitals on both sides of the Atlantic > used to have pipe organs, and I think there are still a few > around. >> > > Spring Grove State Hospital just outside of Baltimore, MD (and about one = mile > from my house), has a theater organ in it's auditorium. However, it was > placed there because the space was available to the local ATOS chapter. = They > use it regularly for concerts. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- ***************************************************** Healthcare references for everyone. "Recipient of the year 2000 Featured Site Award at healthAtoZ.com" http://home.earthlink.net/~marika57/m_erika.html   Internet Safety Lessons. Must reading for everyone. http://home.earthlink.net/~marika57/safetylessons.html *****************************************************      
(back) Subject: Plainsong for an induction From: "Stephen Barker" <steve@ststephenscanterbury.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 22:44:13 -0000   Do any of you know of any plainsong that was traditionally sung at an induction service of a new Rector or Vicar. I'm looking for something = that has a historical connection, not just something that is suitable.   Many thanks in advance!   Steve Canterbury UK      
(back) Subject: Re: Plainsong for an induction From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:55:23 -0500   I've e-mailed a friend in England who not only owns and operates a music school, but her father is a retired Vicar. Perhaps she or her dad may = have an answer to your question. Meanwhile, take a look here... http://classicalmus.hispeed.com/medieval.html you might get lucky!   Stephen Barker wrote:   > Do any of you know of any plainsong that was traditionally sung at an > induction service of a new Rector or Vicar. I'm looking for something = that > has a historical connection, not just something that is suitable. > > Many thanks in advance! > > Steve > Canterbury > UK > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- ***************************************************** Healthcare references for everyone. "Recipient of the year 2000 Featured Site Award at healthAtoZ.com" http://home.earthlink.net/~marika57/m_erika.html   Internet Safety Lessons. Must reading for everyone. http://home.earthlink.net/~marika57/safetylessons.html *****************************************************      
(back) Subject: Easter Song From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 18:53:51 EST     --part1_7f.2093f26c.29849b8f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Anne Herring (of 2nd Chapter of Acts fame) wrote "Easter Song" back in the =   70s, and it came out as a choir octavo. Without the accompaniment, it is = a very attractive "comtemporary" anthem. I plan to use it with the choir singing it in the aisles on Easter Sunday.   I am wondering: Does anyone still have it? If so, I would like to borrow about 25 copies of it ASAP. I could transcribe it onto Sibelius (since it = is still in my head), but I would like to try the legal way first.   Please e-mail me privately at Innkawgneeto@cs.com. Thanks.   Neil Brown First UMC, Toms River, NJ USA   --part1_7f.2093f26c.29849b8f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>Anne Herring (of 2nd Chapter of Acts fame) wrote "Easter Song" = back in the 70s, and it came out as a choir octavo. &nbsp;Without the = accompaniment, it is a very attractive "comtemporary" anthem. &nbsp;I plan = to use it with the choir singing it in the aisles on Easter Sunday. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>I am wondering: Does anyone still have it? &nbsp;If so, I would like = to borrow about 25 copies of it ASAP. &nbsp;I could transcribe it onto = Sibelius (since it is still in my head), but I would like to try the legal = way first. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Please e-mail me privately at Innkawgneeto@cs.com. &nbsp;Thanks. <BR> <BR>Neil Brown <BR>First UMC, Toms River, NJ USA</FONT></HTML>   --part1_7f.2093f26c.29849b8f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Plainsong for an induction From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:34:27 -0800   Ecce sacerdos magnus, Juravit Dominus/Tu es sacerdos, Sacerdotes Domini.   Cheers,   Bud, who has LOVELY *tacky* 19th century settings of all, of COURSE (grin)   Stephen Barker wrote:   > Do any of you know of any plainsong that was traditionally sung at an > induction service of a new Rector or Vicar. I'm looking for something = that > has a historical connection, not just something that is suitable. > > Many thanks in advance! > > Steve > Canterbury > UK > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Theatre and "other type organists" From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 21:22:45 EST     --part1_186.268f051.2984be75_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/26/2002 11:43:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, JDWhitmore@worldnet.att.net writes:     > . I think Bob > Oberlander owned it for a time before the Dickenson. > > > [snip] > > >other people including the guy who used to play a big exposed Wurlitzer > >in a roller skating rink in Alexandria, Virginia. His name escapes > >me...Bob something?? Rob??? I am sure someone on the List knows who I = am > >talking about. I think he owned the organ that was in the roller rink. > >It was mounted, free-standing, on one wall of the rink, sans = expression, > >and boy was it loud! > > That was Jimmy Boyce and he owned the ex-Center Theater 4-34 Wurlitzer = that > was in Rockefeller Center. It was installed in the "America on Wheels" > roller skating rink in Alexandria, VA. The console from that organ is = now > on the Berkeley Community Theater Wurli. There may be other parts from = that > organ in Berkeley: Chris Nichols, are you there? > > Dave inVermont >   Some personal notes here...   Bob Oberlander did LOTS of work to promote the theatre organ in the Metro = DC area. I was involved in the installation of Bob's 2-8 Wurlitzer in the old =   Baronet Theatre on Wisconsin Avenue in Bethesda (right outside of DC). The =   organ was presented in concert by several 'name' organists including Rosa Rio, Hector Olivera, Ray Brubacker (my old organ teacher from my high = school days, he was the organist at the American Film Institute theatre at the Kenedy Center for all of their silent film presentations.) Dick Smith, and =   others/. that organ was removed just before the theatre fell to the = wrecking ball to make way for a giant airshaft for the METRO system station which = was underneath the theartre's location, and re-installed in another theatre a = few blocks away after about a year. The chambers in the new installation were built big enough to accomodate the eventual installation of the Stanton Kimball, which Bob spent YEARS re-aasembling after the otrgan had been = parted out when it was pulled from the theatre in Bawl-a-mur.   The other organ mentioned was Jimmy Boyce's big 4-34 Wurlitzer in the Alexandria Roller Rink (America on Wheels). I spent many Friday evenings there, and played the organ on numerous occasions for skating sessions as = an "ad-hoc" substitute when the other 'regulars' were not available. I also helped with some occasional maintenance on that organ, including the replacement of some regulators.   Rick in VA   --part1_186.268f051.2984be75_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 1/26/2002 11:43:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, JDWhitmore@worldnet.att.net = writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">. I think Bob <BR>Oberlander owned it for a time before the Dickenson. <BR> <BR> <BR>[snip] <BR> <BR>&gt;other people including the guy who used to play a big exposed = Wurlitzer <BR>&gt;in a roller skating rink in Alexandria, Virginia. His name escapes <BR>&gt;me...Bob something?? Rob??? I am sure someone on the List knows = who I am <BR>&gt;talking about. I think he owned the organ that was in the roller = rink. <BR>&gt;It was mounted, free-standing, on one wall of the rink, sans = expression, <BR>&gt;and boy was it loud! <BR> <BR>That was Jimmy Boyce and he owned the ex-Center Theater 4-34 Wurlitzer = that <BR>was in Rockefeller Center. It was installed in the "America on Wheels" <BR>roller skating rink in Alexandria, VA. The console from that organ is = now <BR>on the Berkeley Community Theater Wurli. There may be other parts from = that <BR>organ in Berkeley: Chris Nichols, are you there? <BR> <BR>Dave inVermont <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Some personal notes here... <BR> <BR>Bob Oberlander did LOTS of work to promote the theatre organ in the Metro DC area. I was involved in the installation of Bob's = 2-8 Wurlitzer in the old Baronet Theatre on Wisconsin Avenue in Bethesda = (right outside of DC). The organ was presented in concert by several = 'name' organists including Rosa Rio, Hector Olivera, Ray Brubacker (my old = organ teacher from my high school days, he was the organist at the = American Film Institute theatre at the Kenedy Center for all of their = silent film presentations.) Dick Smith, and others/. that organ was = removed just before the theatre fell to the wrecking ball to make way for = a giant airshaft for the METRO system station which was underneath the = theartre's location, and re-installed in another theatre a few blocks away = after about a year. The chambers in the new installation were built big = enough to accomodate the eventual installation of the Stanton Kimball, = which Bob spent YEARS re-aasembling after the otrgan had been parted out = when it was <BR> <BR>The other organ mentioned was Jimmy Boyce's big 4-34 Wurlitzer in the = Alexandria Roller Rink (America on Wheels). I spent many Friday evenings = there, and played the organ on numerous occasions for skating sessions as = an "ad-hoc" substitute when the other 'regulars' were not available. I = also helped with some occasional maintenance on that organ, including the = replacement of some regulators. <BR> <BR>Rick in VA</FONT></HTML>   --part1_186.268f051.2984be75_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: Easter Song From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 22:32:41 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000E_01C1A6B9.5DD3B280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   neil, I'm not sure I have it, but I hope you can get it. Try it with the bell parts too! It's a great piece!   Jeff   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Innkawgneeto@cs.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 5:54 PM To: anglican-music@list.stsams.org; = MethodistMusicians@lists.tallent.com; pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Easter Song     Anne Herring (of 2nd Chapter of Acts fame) wrote "Easter Song" back in = the 70s, and it came out as a choir octavo. Without the accompaniment, it is = a very attractive "comtemporary" anthem. I plan to use it with the choir singing it in the aisles on Easter Sunday.   I am wondering: Does anyone still have it? If so, I would like to = borrow about 25 copies of it ASAP. I could transcribe it onto Sibelius (since it is still in my head), but I would like to try the legal way first.   Please e-mail me privately at Innkawgneeto@cs.com. Thanks.   Neil Brown First UMC, Toms River, NJ USA   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000E_01C1A6B9.5DD3B280 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dus-ascii"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D240233204-27012002><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D size=3D3D2>neil,=3D20 I'm not sure I have it, but I hope you can get it.&nbsp; Try it with the = =3D bell=3D20 parts too!&nbsp; It's a great piece!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D240233204-27012002><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D   size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D240233204-27012002><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D   size=3D3D2>Jeff</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D240233204-27012002></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = =3D solid"> <DIV class=3D3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3D3Dltr align=3D3Dleft><FONT =3D face=3D3DTahoma=3D20 size=3D3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =3D pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]<B>On Behalf Of=3D20 </B>Innkawgneeto@cs.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 26, 2002 =3D 5:54=3D20 PM<BR><B>To:</B> anglican-music@list.stsams.org;=3D20 MethodistMusicians@lists.tallent.com; =3D pipechat@pipechat.org<BR><B>Subject:</B>=3D20 Easter Song<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT =3D size=3D3D2>Anne=3D20 Herring (of 2nd Chapter of Acts fame) wrote "Easter Song" back in the = =3D 70s, and=3D20 it came out as a choir octavo. &nbsp;Without the accompaniment, it is = =3D a very=3D20 attractive "comtemporary" anthem. &nbsp;I plan to use it with the =3D choir=3D20 singing it in the aisles on Easter Sunday. &nbsp; <BR><BR>I am =3D wondering: Does=3D20 anyone still have it? &nbsp;If so, I would like to borrow about 25 =3D copies of=3D20 it ASAP. &nbsp;I could transcribe it onto Sibelius (since it is still = =3D in my=3D20 head), but I would like to try the legal way first. &nbsp; =3D <BR><BR>Please=3D20 e-mail me privately at Innkawgneeto@cs.com. &nbsp;Thanks. <BR><BR>Neil = =3D Brown=3D20 <BR>First UMC, Toms River, NJ USA</FONT> =3D </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000E_01C1A6B9.5DD3B280--    
(back) Subject: Re: Plainsong for an induction From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 01:16:27 EST   Hi   Try Viviat Pastor english version.   Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: Plainsong for an induction From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 01:18:13 -0600       Stephen Barker wrote:   > Do any of you know of any plainsong that was traditionally sung at an > induction service of a new Rector or Vicar. I'm looking for something = that > has a historical connection, not just something that is suitable.   This is a good question, but I'm not certain exactly what there might be = that has an historical connection. I'm not certain how much clergy were moved around in past times, especially in the Roman Church, where most of the = good plainsong originates. Also, I suspect that new Clergy in charge (at least = in the Roman Church) might have been named at the same time as an Episcopal visitation, on the one hand, or in the case of certain smaller parishes, ordained coincident with being named Rector / Vicar, in which case the ordination chant, "Jam non d=EDcam vos s=E9rvos".   Bud's suggestion of "Ecce sacerdos magnus" is, of course, associated with Bishops, rather than priests (the text appears in the Responsory from the Solemn reception of a Bishop, in in antiphons and the Gradual of the Mass = I in the Common of a Confessor Bishop.)   ns.