PipeChat Digest #2673 - Monday, January 28, 2002
 
Re: Plainsong for an induction
  by <PHarri5833@aol.com>
Re: Organ Building Books for sale
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
AGO Philadelphia Roomies
  by "Owen Cannon" <owencannon@mac.com>
RE: Organ Building Books for sale
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
Re: Bruce Bengston - Reading PA (X-posted)
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
John Weaver plays Severance Hall (cross posted)
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
OFF-TOPIC - Sibelius upgrade
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Organ Building Books for sale
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
recital
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: OFF-TOPIC - Sibelius upgrade
  by "Stephen Barker" <steve@ststephenscanterbury.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Organ Building Books for sale
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Re: OFF-TOPIC - Sibelius upgrade
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: Organ Building Books for sale
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Plainsong for an induction From: <PHarri5833@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 06:42:18 EST     --part1_a3.22b6ac0f.2986931a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 28/01/02 10:09:28 GMT Standard Time, < quilisma@socal.rr.com> writes:   ....> "irremoveable Rectors" ... like mitred abbots   Are list members aware of any cases when, presumably for lack of space, members of the clergy have been "Haskelled" rather than mitred?   Peter M Harrison Emmanuel Church, Holcombe : Ramsbottom : GB   & P H Music 48 Moorfield : Edgworth Bolton : Lancs : BL7 0DH : GB fax: +44 (0)1204 853445 : tel: +44 (0)1204 853310 web: www.phmusic.co.uk   --part1_a3.22b6ac0f.2986931a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 28/01/02 10:09:28 GMT = Standard Time, &lt;quilisma@socal.rr.com&gt; writes:<BR> <BR> ....<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> "irremoveable = Rectors" ... like mitred abbots</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Are list members aware of any cases when, presumably for lack of space, = members of the clergy have been "Haskelled" rather than mitred?<BR> <BR> Peter M Harrison<BR> Emmanuel Church, Holcombe : Ramsbottom : GB<BR> <BR> &amp; P H Music<BR> 48 Moorfield : Edgworth<BR> Bolton : Lancs : BL7 0DH : GB<BR> fax: +44 (0)1204 853445 : tel: +44 (0)1204 853310<BR> web: www.phmusic.co.uk</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a3.22b6ac0f.2986931a_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Building Books for sale From: "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 08:22:05 -0500   I'll do $45 for the Jorgensen- let me know if it goes higher!   Paul   At 8:57 PM -0500 1/27/2, Cremona502@cs.com wrote: >I have the following books on the organ available for sale. Make a = bid. > Highest bidder wins! > >Audsley - The Organ Vols. 1 and 2 >Barnes - The Contemporary American Organ >Goode - Pipe Organ Registration >Jorgensen - Tuning >Sumner - The Organ >Blanton - The Revival of the Organ Case >Fesperson - Two Essays on Organ Design >Monette - The Art of Organ Voicing > > > > Bruce Cornely < Cremona502@cs.com > >with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" >Visit Howling Acres and meet the Baskerbeagles: Duncan, Miles, Molly & >Dewi > < http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 >     http://www.sover.net/~popel      
(back) Subject: AGO Philadelphia Roomies From: "Owen Cannon" <owencannon@mac.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 08:39:07 -0800   Hullo I'm a high school senior going to the AGO Philadelphia Convention this summer, and am looking for a roommate to share the cost of a room at convention headquarters. Is anyone interested, or know of anyone else who is? Please reply personally at owencannon@mac.com. Thanks    
(back) Subject: RE: Organ Building Books for sale From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:39:19 -0500   I'll bid $40 for the Blanton. (This bid has probably been surpassed already).   > -----Original Message----- > From: Cremona502@cs.com [SMTP:Cremona502@cs.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 8:58 PM > To: PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu; pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Organ Building Books for sale > > I have the following books on the organ available for sale. Make a = bid. > Highest bidder wins! > > Audsley - The Organ Vols. 1 and 2 > Barnes - The Contemporary American Organ > Goode - Pipe Organ Registration > Jorgensen - Tuning > Sumner - The Organ > Blanton - The Revival of the Organ Case > Fesperson - Two Essays on Organ Design > Monette - The Art of Organ Voicing > > > > Bruce Cornely < Cremona502@cs.com > > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Visit Howling Acres and meet the Baskerbeagles: Duncan, Miles, Molly & > Dewi > < http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 >  
(back) Subject: Re: Bruce Bengston - Reading PA (X-posted) From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:03:54 -0500   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> To: "pipechat" <pipechat@pipechat.org>; "piporg-l" <piporg-l@listserv.albany.edu>; "organchat" <organchat@egroups.com> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 8:24 PM Subject: Bruce Bengston - Reading PA (X-posted)     >Dear Y'all,   MW: Karl is apparently in Southern Pennsylvania.   > Every other small or medium-sized city must have one of these: a fine organist, humble but skilled in craft, rich in dedication and = musicianship, a faithful service in his local community but little heralded elsewhere.   MW: In Stamford, CT, where I lived until recently, there are three such musicians that come immediately to mind. Not "heralded elsewhere," they = are indeed musicians of taste, integrity, and skill, and will have influenced for good generations of church goers in their large churches. It is = probably too easy to underestimate the importance of those people, let loose on the community!   > Bruce Bengston, organist at Christ Episcopal Church, Reading PA, must = be one such, and I thoroughly enjoyed is recital this afternoon there.   > He was honoring the 100th birthday of Durufl=E9 and the 100th anniv. of = the composition of the Vierne second symphony. Hie program:   > Durufle Suite, Op. 5: Pr=E9lude & Sicilienne. (closing mov't = omitted because Durufl=E9 later rejected it)   MW: This is the bit that made me feel the urge to respond to this posting. = I say it is a pity to have not played the Toccata. Everyone knows that = Durufle rejected it, but everyone also knows that his wife for years let students = in the back door and taught the piece to generations of them. Perhaps she = even played it on the sly when Maurice was not around - does anyone know? I = have never heard that Durufle ever relented and finally embraced this masterpiece, but I think it is nothing but a high compliment to him to, in this one case, go against his judgement, and say "You may not have liked = it, but we love it and we are going to play it!" Isn't it nice to have people excited even about your rejects? Of course, there is always the = possibility that Mr. Bengston does not love it. Fair enough.   Anyway, thanks to Karl for posting this. I think it was Bruce Cornely who posted earlier today about the value of these bits of news about what is going on around the country in our world of the Organ. I agree, try to do = my bit, and fully enjoy hearing of these concerts.   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com          
(back) Subject: John Weaver plays Severance Hall (cross posted) From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:23:44 -0500   I arrived at Severance Hall around 2pm yesterday to find Michael Barone interviewing John Weaver on stage during the pre concert activities that are the prelude of all the organ recitals there. There was discussion of Dr. Weaver's role at Curtis Institute, in the past as a student of Alexander Mcurdy (sp?), and in his current position as chair of the organ department where he has just 4 students presently. I was surprised to learn that Curtis students all attend on a full scholarship basis underwritten by the Curtis Foundation. It is a highly concentrated environment for learning music, and I begin to understand why Felix Hell selected it for his own continuing education. During the questions from the audience section of the program, I wanted to ask Dr. Weaver about what kind of things he and Felix were working on, but I thought that might be in poor taste considering the recital and the attention were deservedly Dr. Weaver's alone. The interview was followed by a very interesting demonstration of how Dr. Weaver approaches an instrument and a room in which he has not played before. Most interesting to me was a demonstration of mixtures, and how they broke back when played by themselves, and how the breaks disappeared when they were mixed with other chorus ranks. On to the recital. "Passacaglia on a Theme by Dunstable" is one of Dr. Weaver's own compositions of which I was surprised to learn there are a goodly number, over half of which have yet to be published. He gave us some insight during the interview about how hard it is to publish compositions, particularly those that use a musical theme or section that was composed by someone else. Gaining permission can be a long dragged out battle between the lawyers which does little but deny the music to the organ community for the duration of said battles. The Passicaglia demonstrates Dr. Weaver's love for chromatic development, and I enjoyed hearing the piece very much. As I hear more and more Mozart performed on the organ, I find myself recognizing the same style he uses when writing other instrumental music. The use of almost etudinal phrases repeated full step by step up or down through the key, in this case F minor, made the piece "Adagio and Allegro in F minor, K.594" instantly appreciable as Mozart. Dr. Weaver made it obvious to me that I need to search out a good all Mozart organ recording sometime soon. Seems like Seth Bingham shares Dr. Weaver's love for chromatic development, so "Roulade, Op. 9, No. 3" was an appropriate choice for this recital. It is an interesting piece, almost choral in nature, and made good use of the excellent Vox Humana rank that blesses the Norton Memorial Organ. Ahhh Bach. I will never tire of the "Passicaglia and Fugue in C minor, BWV582", in fact it has one of the only pedal lines I can hum by heart. Since I am untrained as a keyboard player, I am surprised to realize I have never actually played this part before on my Casio, and it would be simple enough to pick it out by ear. Yet another project to work out when spare time permits. Dr. Weaver plays this piece with precision, placing the ritards in exact placement and duration. Have I mentioned he plays completely from memory? he demands it of his students, and feels he must follow his own example during recitals to insure his complete credibility with his students. At the intermission, I decided to try and hunt down my good friend and our fellow Piporg-L member Ken List from Schantz Organ Company. I knew he was there because I saw his red PT Cruiser parked in his VIP spot inside the CWR parking garage behind Severance Hall when I came in. I even went so far as to ask the guy in the security office to try and get a hold of him back stage for me, but no one answered his radio or phone calls to the stagehand dept. I looked all over the audience when I came back into the concert hall, but couldn't see him there either. Oh well, it was good to know he was probably behind the facade making sure the organ didn't have any hiccups. I guess the organ is still monitored from within at every concert to insure the instrument doesn't develop any nasty surprises in such a prestigious venue. I have come to love "Variations on "America" " by Charles Ives. It has seen much play lately in light of the 911 tragedy, and with the reawakening of our patriotic spirit in this country. Ive's use of discordant counter themes, and statements of the theme in unusual keys makes this piece most unique, and I'm sure the chromaticism is to Dr. Weaver's liking as well. "Ricercare" by Gian Carlo Menotti was first performed by Dr. Weaver at the 1984 AGO Convention in San Francisco. Menotti and Weaver are long time friends, so his performance of this piece is about as accurate to the the composer's intent as we are likely to hear. Dr. Weaver called "opera for the organ", and indeed you can imagine an operatic stage as the music moves amongst the different imagined characters. And again, we hear the chomaticism. Seems we have a pattern developing in this recital. We wound up with that durn Widor, as some list members might opine, but Dr. Weaver gave us part "I. Allegro vivace" and part "IV. Adagio" of the "Symphony No. 5 in F minor, Op. 42, No. 1" to chew on before we got to the part "V. Toccata". I'm sure some of you are tired of hearing the warhorse Toccata, but I love it just as much as Bach's "T&F in D minor", and let's face it, most general audiences, unlike those at an AGO or OHS convention are thrilled to finish up a concert with such a familiar and identifiable piece. I think Dr. Weaver made an excellent choice, and I was happy to hear the other movements of the Symphony which were not as familiar to me. I was most impressed with the structure of this recital, something I had yet to appreciate in other recitals I have heard. The chromatic theme obviously suited Dr. Weaver, and he also selected enough audience favorite music to make the concert well balanced. You get a strong sense of the scholarly aptitude and technical ability Dr. Weaver brings to a recital, yet you find him human enough to not be overwhelmed by it. At one point while pre setting combinations, he bumped a pedal. It was probably not noticeable by the majority of the audience, but when next Dr. Weaver addressed us, he suggested we had not come to Severance Hall to hear him blip the pedals. In that moment he became quite human to me and not simply an organ playing automaton. I once criticized Gillian Weir on this list for appearing as such (and recieved my due share of flack), but I still think it is important for recitalists of even the most impeccable technical capability, to let their hair down just a touch, so that the audience can see that even though the performer is a wizard, they are also human just like us. I think the audience needs that intimacy to fully enjoy the performance, I know I do. I am so very lucky to have Severance Hall just a half hour's drive from my home. It has been my introduction to the world of organs, and its prestigious venue has attracted many world class performers for me to hear and appreciate. The Norton Memorial Organ with its E.M. Skinner origins, and its resurrection by Schantz is a world class instrument for me to learn about and enjoy all kinds of classical organ literature. I believe a student could have no finer foundation to work from. 2 more concerts remain in this years series. In March, Simon Preston will do a program of Elgar and Mendelssohn, and in April I get to hear the Durufle "Requiem" with Curator Todd Wilson on the bench. Next Sunday I will also get to hear Todd Wilson give a recital at Lakewood Congregational Church. This will be interesting, as I have not heard Todd play any other Instrument than at Severance Hall. I don't know his program, but then I guess I don't really care. I'm sure it will be good, and I look forward to the opportunity to finally meet him in person. Hell, I'm even going to ask for his autograph. :-)   Still floating on blessed clouds Mike Gettelman    
(back) Subject: OFF-TOPIC - Sibelius upgrade From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:22:49 -0800   OK, I ordered the upgrade to 2.0.   NOW ... can somebody please explain to me in words of one syllable (preferably) (grin) what it is that 2.0 WON'T do with files created in 1.4?   Or is it that 1.4 can't read files that are created in 2.0?   In that case, I'd have to continue to use 1.4 to write music for my music downloads until everybody on my Sibelius download list upgrades to 2.0.   NOT kewl.   Well, I suppose I could move y'all over to the PDF download list, but PDF files are a LOT bigger. And you can't put new words to the music in PDFs.   I tried the 2.0 demo, and it's wonderful; the PC version is out now; the Mac version is due this quarter. If you buy the Mac version now, you get the older version and a free upgrade when it comes out; if you already have the Mac version, I guess you have to wait for the upgrade.   On the other side: Finale 2002 is out; does it now have a CONVERT function for SIBELIUS files? Just curious ...   Finally: has ANYBODY had ANY luck with making Photoscore Professional actually WORK? *I* haven't ... I'm deciding whether it's worth it to buy the upgrade of THAT. I couldn't get it to read printed NOTES with any accuracy, much less TEXT ... it's claimed that the upgrade has a very sophisticated OCR text reader.   Cheers,   Bud, who just LOVES beginnings of new budget years (grin)    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Building Books for sale From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:50:50 EST     --part1_99.21040759.298713aa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   To all interested in the books.   I think it would be best to communicate off-list. I'm in enough hot = water with the owner! ;-)     Bruce Cornely < Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres and meet the Baskerbeagles: Duncan, Miles, Molly & = Dewi < http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 >   --part1_99.21040759.298713aa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>To all interested in = the books. <BR> <BR>I think it would be best to communicate off-list. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm in enough hot water with the owner! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR> <BR> Bruce Cornely &lt; Cremona502@cs.com &gt;<I> </I> <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres <I>&nbsp;</I>and meet the Baskerbeagles: = &nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt; &nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &gt;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_99.21040759.298713aa_boundary--  
(back) Subject: recital From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:30:18 +1300   How good to read Mike Gettelman's words about a recital he attended. It is even better, coming from one who does not pretend to be a professional organist or organbuilder, but just from someone who loves the organ and = its music. (No, that is not meant as a disparagement of any of the professionals, so please don't take it to be that!!!) ..... Not apropos of the above, may I tell you all a story against myself? About 1968 I went to a recital in Christchurch Cathedral (New Zealand) = given by Gillian Weir, that fellow New Zealander. I think I was 26 or 27 at the time. I sat next to a scruffy little old fellow in an out-of-date and worn-out navy pinstripe suit. He asked me what I thought of the organ, so told the fellow in some detail about its origins, subsequent rebuilds, and so on. He encouraged me to go on, so I did, about the building's = acoustics, the music history of the cathedral, etc. He encouraged me to go on, asking me what I thought of Gillian Weir and her playing, so I did, at some length - in fact I talked, under the fellow's gentle prodding and questioning, for all of the 20-minute interval. After the recital was = over, and the fellow I had "bludgeoned" had gone, I asked a friend near me who = the naive little twit was. His reply, "Gillian's professor at the Royal = Academy in London, Dr Leonard Blake." Wwoooooooooopppppps!!!!!!!!!! Regards, Ross P.S. I believe I was right in what I said, all the same.      
(back) Subject: Re: OFF-TOPIC - Sibelius upgrade From: "Stephen Barker" <steve@ststephenscanterbury.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:40:11 -0000   Bud,   Sibelius 2.0 will OPEN files from 1.4, but can't SAVE in 1.4 format... so = if you want to share files then you'll have to keep the old version... but = why not pass them around as scorch files, then even people without sibelius = can still read them and print them (providing, of course, that they've been to the Sibelius web site and got the plug-in). I have to wait until the = school where I work upgrades to version 2 before I can make use of the new bits! for now, stuck with 1.4 - although I'm sure it can do LOADS of things I haven't found out yet!   Steve, Canterbury UK    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Building Books for sale From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:54:57 -0500       Cremona502@cs.com wrote: > > To all interested in the books. > > I think it would be best to communicate off-list. I'm in enough hot = water > with the owner! ;-) > > Bruce Cornely       Well, Bruce!   David and Tim are heavily invested in E-BAY - You have crossed the line.   ...and at least, you didn't offer all of that theatre organ stuff that you = own. As you know, the price for the Tibia pipe that you need for the completion of the set remains at $2,046.   I refuse to give up my recordings of "The Whistler and His Dog" as a = 'swap'. Let the damned Beagles cry all night, they'll never hear it.   With appreciation for you friendship, and drawing my 'line in the sand'.   Stan   sorry Bruce, I didn't mean to run over you like a 'Mack Truck'     :) :) :)    
(back) Subject: Re: OFF-TOPIC - Sibelius upgrade From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:07:35 -0600       quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > OK, I ordered the upgrade to 2.0. > > NOW ... can somebody please explain to me in words of one syllable > (preferably) (grin) what it is that 2.0 WON'T do with files created in > 1.4?   I have no direct personal experience. What I understand from reading postings of others, Sibelius 1.x cannot read or write 2.0 file formats, Sibelius 2.0 can, as I understand it, read but not write 1.x formats.   ns    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Building Books for sale From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:08:15 EST     --part1_82.16a4cff4.298725cf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <from nstarfil@mediaone.net (Stanley Lowkis) <..and at least, you didn't offer all of that theatre organ stuff that you =   own. As you know, the price for the Tibia pipe that you need for the completion of the set remains at $2,046.>   Alas, I've learned to live without that Tibia pipe, although the garden = fence would be more symmetrical with that pipe included. The rest of the = organ stuff is indispensable (so that my dining room table doesn't fall over!! = I couldn't spare another Tibia pipe for the leg!).   <I refuse to give up my recordings of "The Whistler and His Dog" as a = 'swap'. Let the damned Beagles cry all night, they'll never hear it.>   That's ok! We have a recording of the important part.... The Dog!!   <With appreciation for you friendship, and drawing my 'line in the sand'.   Whassamatta? Not enough to spell your name!!! heeheehee     Bruce Cornely < Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres and meet the Baskerbeagles: Duncan, Miles, Molly & = Dewi < http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 >   --part1_82.16a4cff4.298725cf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>&lt;from = nstarfil@mediaone.net (Stanley Lowkis) <BR> <BR>&lt;..and at least, you didn't offer all of that theatre organ stuff = that you own. <BR>As you know, the price for the Tibia pipe that you need for the = completion <BR>of the set remains at $2,046.&gt; <BR> <BR>Alas, I've learned to live without that Tibia pipe, although the = garden fence would be more symmetrical with that pipe included. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The rest of the organ stuff is indispensable (so = that my dining room table doesn't fall over!! &nbsp;I couldn't spare = another Tibia pipe for the leg!). <BR> <BR>&lt;I refuse to give up my recordings of "The Whistler and His Dog" as = a 'swap'. <BR>Let the damned Beagles cry all night, they'll never hear it.&gt; <BR> <BR>That's ok! &nbsp;&nbsp;We have a recording of the important part.... = The Dog!! <BR> <BR>&lt;With appreciation for you friendship, and drawing my 'line in the = sand'. <BR> <BR>Whassamatta? &nbsp;Not enough to spell your name!!! &nbsp;heeheehee <BR> <BR> <BR> Bruce Cornely &lt; Cremona502@cs.com &gt;<I> </I> <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres <I>&nbsp;</I>and meet the Baskerbeagles: = &nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt; &nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &gt;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_82.16a4cff4.298725cf_boundary--