PipeChat Digest #2953 - Tuesday, July 9, 2002
 
Re: Dr. Hall Tours the UK:  Part Four (LONG)
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Websites of Interest to Organists
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
RE: Dr. Hall Tours the UK/Oxford
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
RE: Dr. Hall Tours the UK:  Part Four (LONG)
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
Philadelphia convention
  by <MFoxy9795@aol.com>
RE: Dr. Hall Tours the UK/Oxford
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com>
Re: Philadelphia convention
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Philadelphia convention
  by <DrB88@aol.com>
Christ Church, Oxon, Rieger
  by "Jonathan B. Hall" <jonathan@jonathanbhall.com>
Re: Dr. Hall Tours the UK/Oxford
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: La Marseillaise
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Dr. Hall Tours the UK/Oxford
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
RE: Dr. Hall Tours the UK/Oxford
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: Dr. Hall Tours the UK/Oxford
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
RE: Dr. Hall Tours the UK/Oxford
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
Good organs in lousy rooms
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
Re: Christ Church, Oxon, Rieger
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Dr. Hall Tours the UK: Part Four (LONG) From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:45:08 +1200   When I heard that Rieger at Oxford, the organist (don't know who he was) told me they usually tune only two manual divisions and the Pedal, as everything is so horrible in tone and out-of-tune as well. On the other hand, I'm not slamming Rieger, as their later instrument at = the Christchurch Town Hall here in NZ is mind-blowingly effective. Ross -----Original Message----- From: Malcolm Wechsler <manderusa@earthlink.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Hall Tours the UK: Part Four (LONG)     >Dear List, > >Like John Speller, I have always found the Christ Church Rieger a big >disappointment liturgically. It really is not much loved. Oxford has two >other instruments known to me that I think are much more lovable. One is the >Frobenius at Queens, which I have only heard in recital, but thought = would >work well liturgically as well. The other is, surprise, surprise, the Mander >at Magdalen College http://www.mander-organs.com/html/magdalen_college.html. >I have heard Evensong there a number of times, and I hope that choir remains >as fabulous as it was on those occasions, and I hope the great musical >tradition remains. This organ was voiced on site in a most amazing way. When >a stop was finished, it was used by prearrangement during that day's >Evensong, usually in a few verses of the Psalm, and John Mander and = others >listened to the balances out in the building. The approach worked >wonderfully well. Any who have seen the movie "Shadowlands," all about C. S. >Lewis, will have seen and heard this organ (and sometimes choir) = throughout >the movie. The opening scene is of the unusual stone case, which you can see >on the website. > >End of commercial. > >Malcolm Wechsler >www.mander-organs.com > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> >To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 9:18 PM >Subject: Re: Dr. Hall Tours the UK: Part Four (LONG) > > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Websites of Interest to Organists From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 06:44:54 EDT     --part1_18b.a5857f4.2a5c18a6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi, Y'all!   A few weeks ago I asked for your input and suggestions as to which = websites you accessed, etc. The reason for the askin was/is to make a compilation = to give out at the POE next week in Rochester. I have finished the list and = it is ready for publication I'm sure left out a ton of stuff, but it what it = is and will not make any changes at this point since I'm leaving in a day or = two to head back "up North." I have made a .pdf (Adobe Acrobat) file and will forward it to anyone who asks. Please send me a separate e-mail to my = address at the office =3D dmiller@crpc.org. I will send it immediately.   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea     --part1_18b.a5857f4.2a5c18a6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hi, Y'all! <BR> <BR>A few weeks ago I asked for your input and suggestions as to which = websites you accessed, etc. The reason for the askin was/is to make a = compilation to give out at the POE next week in Rochester. I have finished = the list and it is ready for publication I'm sure left out a ton of stuff, = but it what it is and will not make any changes at this point since I'm = leaving in a day or two to head back "up North." I have made a .pdf (Adobe = Acrobat) file and will forward it to anyone who asks. Please send me a = separate e-mail to my address at the office =3D dmiller@crpc.org. I will = send it immediately. <BR> <BR>Yours, <BR> <BR>Darryl by the Sea <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_18b.a5857f4.2a5c18a6_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: Dr. Hall Tours the UK/Oxford From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:25:31 +0100     Hello,   I don't know why, but Oxford has not fared too well on the organ front; = the same being true to some extent at Cambridge. One would have thought = that two great universities might have got the best in continental organ = buiudling.   Interestingly, the best organs seem to be home produced....the Mander at = St.John's Cambridge, the very exciting instrument in Great St.Mary's = Church by Kenneth Jones and Associates and a fine rebuild of an old = Wm.Hill at the Methodist Church.   Oxford has, in my humble opinion, suffered from the input of continental = organ building with one glorious exception....Queen's College.   The absolutely gorgeous Frobenius in that lovely chapel acoustic stands = head and shoulders above the rest; even now after the best part of 40 = years.   It seems to me that many continental organ builders just cannot cope = with anything less than a sea of reverberation.   Colin Mitchell UK          
(back) Subject: RE: Dr. Hall Tours the UK: Part Four (LONG) From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:30:06 +0100   Hello,   Crumbs! I had forgotten about Magdelen.....very nice!   Colin Mitchell UK       -----Original Message----- From: "pipechat@pipechat.org" <pipechat@pipechat.org> on behalf of = "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>     Like John Speller, I have always found the Christ Church Rieger a big disappointment liturgically. It really is not much loved. Oxford has two other instruments known to me that I think are much more lovable. One is = the Frobenius at Queens, which I have only heard in recital, but thought = would work well liturgically as well. The other is, surprise, surprise, the = Mander at Magdalen College = http://www.mander-organs.com/html/magdalen_college.html.  
(back) Subject: Philadelphia convention From: <MFoxy9795@aol.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 08:20:45 -0400   Dear Pipechatters, I am very surprised that I have not seen a single mention of the = Philadelphia convention on this list since it ended. I enjoyed the = convention very much, although I missed the pipechat get-together on = Tuesday night - how many of you made it? How did you all survive the = heat?!!! what were some of your experiences? Aside from the many musical = pleasures, I enjoyed frequenting the Reading Terminal Market and taking = pictures of such things as the murals, the ceiling of Girard Chapel, and = the banners on the lampposts. Merry  
(back) Subject: RE: Dr. Hall Tours the UK/Oxford From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 12:36:20 +0000       Dear List, Apart from Queen's College, Oxford (which appears high in my list of favourite organs), may I suggest that one of the best "continental" organs =   in Oxford is by a British builder - albeit no longer with us - New College =   by Grant Degens and Bradbeer . The organ I used to enjoy practising on was =   The 4 manual father Willis in the town hall. Half a crown an hour 40 years =   ago! John Foss   _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Philadelphia convention From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:56:29 EDT     --part1_2f.29c9e025.2a5c377d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I am still recovering from the heat and my weariness. Gosh, I'm not young =   anymore!!   I have to say my favorite experience was to hear Craig Phillips play with = the Philadelphia Orchestra at Girard College. He and I attended undergraduate =   school together.   My next favorites were: the opening worship at the Basilica of Sts. Peter =   and Paul, and then Choral Evensong at Holy Trinity Episcopal with the National Cathedral Choir of Men and Girls. I had the privilege of sitting =   with some of the parents of the girls.   I also did quite a bit of walking around, hoping it would improve my waistline (that remains to be seen --grin).   And yes, I attended the Tuesday get-together.   Neil by the Bay   --part1_2f.29c9e025.2a5c377d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I am still recovering from the heat and my = weariness.&nbsp; Gosh, I'm not young anymore!!<BR> <BR> I have to say my favorite experience was to hear Craig Phillips play with = the Philadelphia Orchestra at Girard College.&nbsp; He and I attended = undergraduate school together.&nbsp; <BR> <BR> My next favorites were:&nbsp; the opening worship at the Basilica of Sts. = Peter and Paul, and then Choral Evensong at Holy Trinity Episcopal with = the National Cathedral Choir of Men and Girls.&nbsp; I had the privilege = of sitting with some of the parents of the girls.<BR> <BR> I also did quite a bit of walking around, hoping it would improve my = waistline (that remains to be seen --grin).<BR> <BR> And yes, I attended the Tuesday get-together.&nbsp; <BR> <BR> Neil by the Bay</FONT></HTML>   --part1_2f.29c9e025.2a5c377d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Philadelphia convention From: <DrB88@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:31:30 EDT     --part1_e5.1a7162e3.2a5c3fb2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I was in Philly last week as well... missed the gathering on Tuesday = evening. The convention was great for me, and I returned inspired and although = tired, renewed in many ways.   Many of the commissioned works were, to be honest, low points for me in = the week; but the closing concert on Saturday night was worth it all. People = all around me were greatly moved by the presentation by the Voices of = Ascension, and the commissioned piece in the first half of the evening was absorbing = and well crafted. It was almost more than one could bear to be so moved by = that, and then to hear the C. Hubert Parry "I was glad" presented as an encore prior to the intermission. It was unforgettable! We needed the 15-20 minutes to come back down to earth--only to be transported again--as we = heard the Durufle "Requiem" in the second half of the program. All was = exquisitely performed.   The Toronto Children's Choir on Saturday afternoon in the new Kimmel = Center was extraordinary as well. The concert hall became indeed a sacred space = as we heard their music.   Another highlight for me was hearing the Girard College Chapel organ...the =   1933 Skinner. An exquisite instrument--unique installation--and used well =   for 3 different events last week. Despite the heat, it was a highlight. Hearing the organ was worth the misery of the sweltering temperatures and high humidity. Kudos to the organ technicians who prepared these = instruments and had them ready for use even under the adverse circumstances presented = by the summer heat.   I couldn't report on my week without mentioning the Wanamaker Organ... It =   was a fulfillment of many years' expectations to be able to go there and = hear and see that instrument, and it is wonderful to know that it is in such = good condition and improving all the time. Peter Richard Conte dazzled us = daily with 2 recitals, plus his dual concerts on July 4th for the entire convention. THERE is an example of one of our best doing a great deal to bring the organ back to "the masses"...helping the average person = appreciate and enjoy the power of our noble instrument!   There were other highlights for me as well...the Aeolian Skinner organ at Princeton, the Cherry Rhodes recital on the Ott organ, Richard Webster's hymns settings in the opening service on Monday evening, hearing the Choir = of Men and Girls from the National Cathedral, the Choir of St. Mark's = Episcopal in Philadelphia, and on and on... Meeting new friends and seeing old = ones, schmoozing till all hours, conversations on the busses, and exploring a = new city... all of this and more made the week inspiring and enriching. I = hope to experience more of the same in LA in two years...   And, by the way....Y'all come to Chicago in 2006!!   David     --part1_e5.1a7162e3.2a5c3fb2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I was in Philly last week as well... missed the = gathering on Tuesday evening.&nbsp; The convention was great for me, and I = returned inspired and although tired, renewed in many ways.&nbsp; <BR> <BR> Many of the commissioned works were, to be honest, low points for me in = the week; but the closing concert on Saturday night was worth it = all.&nbsp; People all around me were greatly moved by the presentation by = the Voices of Ascension, and the commissioned piece in the first half of = the evening was absorbing and well crafted. It was almost more than one = could bear to be so moved by that, and then to hear the C. Hubert Parry "I = was glad" presented as an encore prior to the intermission.&nbsp; It was = unforgettable!&nbsp; We needed the 15-20 minutes to come back down to = earth--only to be transported again--as we heard the Durufle "Requiem" in = the second half of the program.&nbsp; All was exquisitely performed.&nbsp; = <BR> <BR> The Toronto Children's Choir on Saturday afternoon in the new Kimmel Center = was extraordinary as well.&nbsp; The concert hall became indeed a sacred = space as we heard their music.&nbsp; <BR> <BR> Another highlight for me was hearing the Girard College Chapel organ...the = 1933 Skinner.&nbsp; An exquisite instrument--unique installation--and used = well for 3 different events last week.&nbsp; Despite the heat, it was a = highlight.&nbsp; Hearing the organ was worth the misery of the sweltering = temperatures and high humidity.&nbsp; Kudos to the organ technicians who = prepared these instruments and had them ready for use even under the = adverse circumstances presented by the summer heat.<BR> <BR> I couldn't report on my week without mentioning the Wanamaker = Organ...&nbsp; It was a fulfillment of many years' expectations to be able = to go there and hear and see that instrument, and it is wonderful to know = that it is in such good condition and improving all the time.&nbsp; Peter = Richard Conte dazzled us daily with 2 recitals, plus his dual concerts on = July 4th for the entire convention.&nbsp; THERE is an example of one of = our best doing a great deal to bring the organ back to "the = masses"...helping the average person appreciate and enjoy the power of our = noble instrument!<BR> <BR> There were other highlights for me as well...the Aeolian Skinner organ at = Princeton, the Cherry Rhodes recital on the Ott organ, Richard Webster's = hymns settings in the opening service on Monday evening, hearing the Choir = of Men and Girls from the National Cathedral, the Choir of St. Mark's = Episcopal in Philadelphia, and on and on...&nbsp; Meeting new friends and = seeing old ones, schmoozing till all hours, conversations on the busses, = and exploring a new city... all of this and more made the week inspiring = and enriching.&nbsp; I hope to experience more of the same in LA in two = years...<BR> <BR> And, by the way....Y'all come to Chicago in 2006!!<BR> <BR> David<BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_e5.1a7162e3.2a5c3fb2_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Christ Church, Oxon, Rieger From: "Jonathan B. Hall" <jonathan@jonathanbhall.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:13:54 -0700 (PDT)     Hi--   I'm interested to see the comments on the Rieger...especially that it is widely disliked as an Anglican liturgical instrument. I didn't experience it in liturgy, but it seemed to me that Clive and Willis could do rather English sounding things with it--which is not to say that it is indigenously English. It is certainly a more English instrument than a very, very unpleasant Rieger in my neck of the woods, which is perhaps my benchmark. I don't count myself a fan of Rieger, so this instrument in Oxford really surprised and pleased me. Certainly, too, the Willis in Edinburgh was more quintessentially English, as we understand it...Perhaps I am a Guileless Fool...   I enjoyed it partly because I played Bach on it, of course, and partly because the touch was so pleasing and the combination action so elegantly responsive. Yes, it was quite loud, and the acoustics in the room are surprisingly poor; but it was still a pleasure to play.   Anyhoo, staff meeting beckons. Ta-ta for now!   J   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Dr. Hall Tours the UK/Oxford From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:28:23 EDT   Dear Colin:   <you wrote> It seems to me that many continental organ builders just cannot cope with anything less than a sea of reverberation.   IMHO The organ needs to be able to sing. In a dead or nearly dead room this is nearly impossible. In many cases these disappointing organs would sound fine elsewhere. Disappointing organs usually go hand in hand with a disappointing room acoustic. So many organs are religated to these conditions these days, and I think it is criminal. There is no life to the tone, after a great deal of money is spent, and high hopes of a crashing success, dashed. I've heard all the arguments that good tone can be obtained in a dry acoustic. In the heart of hearts we know that this is simply untrue and we call these conditions perfect acoustics. Sad.   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: La Marseillaise From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 11:29:08 -0400   on 7/8/02 10:24 AM, Robert_Lind@cch.com at Robert_Lind@cch.com wrote:   >=20 >=20 >=20 > Since July 14 falls on a Sunday this year, I'd like to play a closing > voluntary > that incorporates some of La Marseillaise in it. I immediately think of t= he > Langlais "Chant hero=EFque" but would be interested to know of other > possibilities, particularly because I think I ran across just such an org= an > work > recently but forgot to make a note of it.   The first movement (Rheims - Allegro moderato) of Charles Villiers Stanford's Sonata Eroica, no. 2 in G Minor, Op. 151, incorporates the Marseillaise into its fabric.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: Dr. Hall Tours the UK/Oxford From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 12:57:36 -0400     > Interestingly, the best organs seem to be home produced....the Mander at > St.John's Cambridge   I was privileged to visit and play the Mander at St. John's, = Cambridge, for years ago and found it so marvelous as to consider tryign to load it = up on top of my rental car and take it back to the airport with me!! :-)   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA    
(back) Subject: RE: Dr. Hall Tours the UK/Oxford From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:34:48 -0400   Ah'll beh' THA' pu' a big smoyle on Mal'olm's foyce, Oy? Well, If all Manders are like St. Iggy's they get my vote. Robert Colasacco   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I was privileged to visit and play the Mander at St. John's, = Cambridge, for years ago and found it so marvelous as to consider tryign to load it = up on top of my rental car and take it back to the airport with me!! :-)   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA    
(back) Subject: Re: Dr. Hall Tours the UK/Oxford From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:44:00 +1200   I'm glad you mentioned that Methodist organ and the Kenneth Jones organ at Great St Mary's. My experience of organs actually in the UK is limited (I was in the UK for 14 weeks in 1992) but found those two to be quite wonderful. Ross -----Original Message----- From: cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:23 PM Subject: RE: Dr. Hall Tours the UK/Oxford       Hello,   I don't know why, but Oxford has not fared too well on the organ front; = the same being true to some extent at Cambridge. One would have thought that = two great universities might have got the best in continental organ buiudling.   Interestingly, the best organs seem to be home produced....the Mander at St.John's Cambridge, the very exciting instrument in Great St.Mary's = Church by Kenneth Jones and Associates and a fine rebuild of an old Wm.Hill at = the Methodist Church.   Oxford has, in my humble opinion, suffered from the input of continental organ building with one glorious exception....Queen's College.   The absolutely gorgeous Frobenius in that lovely chapel acoustic stands = head and shoulders above the rest; even now after the best part of 40 years.   It seems to me that many continental organ builders just cannot cope with anything less than a sea of reverberation.   Colin Mitchell UK           "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: RE: Dr. Hall Tours the UK/Oxford From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:29:18 +0100   Hello,   On tonal grounds I agree with John Foss....New College is quite a fine = instrument, but its build quality is, if I recall, a bit suspect.   Colin Mitchell UK         -----Original Message----- From: "pipechat@pipechat.org" <pipechat@pipechat.org> on behalf of "John = Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> Sent: 09 July 2002 12:36 To: "pipechat@pipechat.org" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: RE: Dr. Hall Tours the UK/Oxford       Dear List, Apart from Queen's College, Oxford (which appears high in my list of=20 favourite organs), may I suggest that one of the best "continental" = organs=20 in Oxford is by a British builder - albeit no longer with us - New = College=20 by Grant Degens and Bradbeer . The organ I used to enjoy practising on = was=20 The 4 manual father Willis in the town hall. Half a crown an hour 40 = years=20 ago! John Foss   _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Good organs in lousy rooms From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:34:49 +0100     Sorry about this, but I utterly disagree with Ron Severin on this one. = The organ of Leeds Parish Church....a bit of a mongrel = Harrison/Schulze.Hill/Abbot & Smith/Wood Wordsworth instrument....sounds = magnificent in that building; one of the deadest acoustics in the = world....zilch reverb.   It can sound heavy, but when used with care, it is bright and singing to = the ear. It is, of course, fairly heavily regulated, but there is plenty = of brightness to be had.   I give this organ 10 out of 10 as a triumph over adversity.   Colin Mitchell UK     -----Original Message----- From: "pipechat@pipechat.org" <pipechat@pipechat.org> on behalf of = "RonSeverin@aol.com" <RonSeverin@aol.com> Sent: 09 July 2002 14:28 To: "pipechat@pipechat.org" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Re: Dr. Hall Tours the UK/Oxford   Dear Colin:   <you wrote> It seems to me that many continental organ builders just=20 cannot cope with anything less than a sea of reverberation.   IMHO The organ needs to be able to sing. In a dead or nearly dead room this is nearly impossible. In many cases these disappointing organs would sound fine elsewhere. Disappointing organs usually go hand in hand with a disappointing room acoustic. So many organs are religated to these conditions these days, and I think it is = criminal. There is no life to the tone, after a great deal of money is spent, and high hopes of a crashing success, dashed. I've heard all the arguments that good tone can be obtained in a dry acoustic. In the heart of hearts we know that this is simply untrue and we call these conditions perfect acoustics. Sad.   Ron Severin     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Christ Church, Oxon, Rieger From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:05:14 +1200   Just as a matter of interest, I'll ask why any Presbyterian Church in Scotland would want to have an organ quintessentially English, implying Anglican? Ross -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan B. Hall <jonathan@jonathanbhall.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 2:14 AM Subject: Christ Church, Oxon, Rieger     > >Hi-- > >I'm interested to see the comments on the Rieger...especially that it >is widely disliked as an Anglican liturgical instrument. I didn't >experience it in liturgy, but it seemed to me that Clive and Willis >could do rather English sounding things with it--which is not to say >that it is indigenously English. It is certainly a more English >instrument than a very, very unpleasant Rieger in my neck of the woods, >which is perhaps my benchmark. I don't count myself a fan of Rieger, >so this instrument in Oxford really surprised and pleased me. >Certainly, too, the Willis in Edinburgh was more quintessentially >English, as we understand it...Perhaps I am a Guileless Fool... > >I enjoyed it partly because I played Bach on it, of course, and partly >because the touch was so pleasing and the combination action so >elegantly responsive. Yes, it was quite loud, and the acoustics in the >room are surprisingly poor; but it was still a pleasure to play. > >Anyhoo, staff meeting beckons. Ta-ta for now! > >J > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free >http://sbc.yahoo.com > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >