PipeChat Digest #2984 - Thursday, July 25, 2002
 
Trash, the Elmore "Pavane" and interesting concert programming--LONG
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Frustration
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
RE: Felix Hell in Saddle Brook, NJ - 7/22/02
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE: trashy organ music?
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Organs in Films
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: Claptrap - was trashy organ music
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com>
Re: Organs in Films
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com>
Re: trashy organ music?
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Frustration
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
RE: trashy organ music?
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE: Frustration
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: trashy organ music?
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
Re: trashy organ music?
  by "straight" <straight@infoblvd.net>
 

(back) Subject: Trash, the Elmore "Pavane" and interesting concert programming--LONG From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:45:26 EDT     --part1_7f.29919161.2a713ed6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   There is trash, and there is trash. Some of the Victorian and High = Romantic era fluff is just trash without any sort of musical value. I guess it = would sort of be like today's muzak that plays in many elevators and dentist's offices. Then there is the trash that actually is pleasing to the ear and =   the majority of non-organist listeners. There is some wonderful Dubois (Fiat Lux), Lefebure-Wely (any of the = Sorties, and the Bolero de Concert) and even the Pietro Yon "Humoresque", that = while they might not be the most intellectually composed pieces, they appeal to = an audience wider than the AGO. Many organists wonder why they can't draw an =   audience to their performances and the "bubble and squeak" contemporary = music the play scares off the non-organist types, as well as some of us = organists who were taught in the Romantic style. I'm only 32, but I think I must = have lived a past life back in the 20's and 30's, because that is the style I = play in and that is the kind of music I like to listen to. I could get through =   the rest of my life without playing much of the music that is being = composed now and never miss too much.   That being said, I want to hearken back to a piece that was mentioned in = the previous "trashy organ music" thread. The Elmore Pavane is an absolutely beautiful piece. Someone mentioned that they wondered if it was ever = played in church. I used it about 2 months ago as a prelude piece. The key to = the piece is having an organ that will do it justice. If you're playing a 2 = man. 10 rank ______ (you fill in the blank generic organ company) it's not going to sound like = it should. When I was on staff at Calvary Church, Charlotte, NC and had 205 ranks of orchestral organ at my fingertips, I used to play the Pavane during the weekly noon organ recitals. In the score it calls for orchestral sounds = such as Clarinet and French Horn, plus for the opening section, you need some = big Gambas or Cellos (I had both playing at 16, 8, 4) to just let the melody = soar above the accompaniment. I also used the harp and ended on the echo flute =   celeste and vox humana (with TREM!!!) in the Celestial division in the cieling. When you can things like that the piece just sings. The organ I =   played it on a few weeks ago is a 4 manual with an antiphonal. I had the melody jumping from front to back, and made due with some composite registrations to emulate a french horn. It wasn't as successful as it is = on a large organ, but I made due. Every time I have played the piece, it = gets rave reviews from the congregation or audience. People love pieces with a =   melody they can follow, even when they don't know the piece.   As to the Elmore Donkey Dance, I've played it in concert serveral times, along with some other animal music (The Squirrel--Powell Weaver, The Cukoo--D'Aquin) and made a little "Barnyard Suite" that shows off a = humorous side to the organ.   There is a lot of great, lesser known, organ music out there that will interest the average audience member. The "Allegro Giocoso" from the St-Saens 7 Impovisations is always a crowd pleaser. The piece is = difficult, but it's s flashy showstopper. So is the Elmore "Rhumba". The Mulet "Carillon-Sortie" always gets rave reviews and so does the Wesley = "Holsworthy Church Bells". People love bells, regardless of what organists think of them. The audience will eat it up.   So that's what I think about trashy music and making concerts interesting. = Try some of these pieces in your next recital and see what kind of = responses you get. Mixed in with some Bach, Vierne, and Guilmant, you will have a varied = program with something that appeals to everyone, even the kids.     Monty Bennett   --part1_7f.29919161.2a713ed6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">There is trash, and there is = trash.&nbsp; Some of the Victorian and High Romantic era fluff is just = trash without any sort of musical value.&nbsp; I guess it would sort of be = like today's muzak that plays in many elevators and dentist's = offices.&nbsp; Then there is the trash that actually is pleasing to the = ear and the majority of non-organist listeners.<BR> There is some wonderful Dubois (Fiat Lux), Lefebure-Wely (any of the = Sorties, and the Bolero de Concert) and even the Pietro Yon "Humoresque", = that while they might not be the most intellectually composed pieces, they = appeal to an audience wider than the AGO.&nbsp; Many organists wonder why = they can't draw an audience to their performances and the "bubble and = squeak" contemporary music the play scares off the non-organist types, as = well as some of us organists who were taught in the Romantic style.&nbsp; = I'm only 32, but I think I must have lived a past life back in the 20's = and 30's, because that is the style I play in and that is the kind of = music I like to listen to.&nbsp; I could get through the rest of my life = without playing much of the music that is being composed now and never = miss too much.<BR> <BR> That being said, I want to hearken back to a piece that was mentioned in = the previous "trashy organ music" thread.&nbsp; The Elmore Pavane is an = absolutely beautiful piece.&nbsp; Someone mentioned that they wondered if = it was ever played in church.&nbsp; I used it about 2 months ago as a = prelude piece.&nbsp; The key to the piece is having an organ that will do = it justice.&nbsp; If you're playing a 2 man. 10 rank ______<BR> (you fill in the blank generic organ company) it's not going to sound like = it should.<BR> When I was on staff at Calvary Church, Charlotte, NC and had 205 ranks of = orchestral organ at my fingertips, I used to play the Pavane during the = weekly noon organ recitals.&nbsp; In the score it calls for orchestral = sounds such as Clarinet and French Horn, plus for the opening section, you = need some big Gambas or Cellos (I had both playing at 16, 8, 4) to just = let the melody soar above the accompaniment.&nbsp; I also used the harp = and ended on the echo flute celeste and vox humana (with TREM!!!) in the = Celestial division in the cieling.&nbsp; When you can things like that the = piece just sings.&nbsp; The organ I played it on a few weeks ago is a 4 = manual with an antiphonal.&nbsp; I had the melody jumping from front to = back, and made due with some composite registrations to emulate a french = horn.&nbsp; It wasn't as successful as it is on a large organ, but I made = due.&nbsp; Every time I have played the piece, it gets rave reviews from = the congregation or audience.&nbsp; People love piec <BR> As to the Elmore Donkey Dance, I've played it in concert serveral times, = along with some other animal music (The Squirrel--Powell Weaver, The = Cukoo--D'Aquin) and made a little "Barnyard Suite" that shows off a = humorous side to the organ.&nbsp; <BR> <BR> There is a lot of great, lesser known, organ music out there that will = interest the average audience member.&nbsp; The "Allegro Giocoso" from the = St-Saens 7 Impovisations is always a crowd pleaser.&nbsp; The piece is = difficult, but it's s flashy showstopper.&nbsp; So is the Elmore = "Rhumba".&nbsp; The Mulet "Carillon-Sortie" always gets rave reviews and = so does the Wesley "Holsworthy Church Bells".&nbsp; People love bells, = regardless of what organists think of them.&nbsp; The audience will eat it = up.<BR> <BR> So that's what I think about trashy music and making concerts = interesting.&nbsp; Try some of these pieces in your next recital and see = what kind of responses you get.<BR> Mixed in with some Bach, Vierne, and Guilmant, you will have a varied = program with something that appeals to everyone, even the kids.<BR> <BR> <BR> Monty Bennett</FONT></HTML>   --part1_7f.29919161.2a713ed6_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Frustration From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:15:36 +0100     Hello,   I've just returned from a most interesting jaunt, which involved flying = out in a private jet to France to the French Grand Prix motor race, then = driving a race car transporter up to Hockenheim for the German Grand = Prix before flying back to the UK.....the transport budgets are = staggering!   The logistics were a nightmare and the security awesome, with security = outriders and even a Police Escort at one point.   This meant that I was unable to sample the delights of France and = Germany en-route. However, I did have chance to rest in Moulins in the = Burgundian region and happened upon the small cathedral there. The organ = looked old and sort of Cavaille-Coll-ish.....anyone know anything about = it?   Sadly, I could not call into Dijon and, as I drove into Germany, I was = acutely aware of things to be seen which I was forced to miss :(   Flying back from Stuttgart, the only thing I saw of the place was the = vast concrete tower and what seemed like a million electricity pylons!   My only compensation was to have breakfast with the World Champion, = Michael Schumacher!!   Just to think, I was only a relatively short distance from Frankfurt and = Thuringia, but without transport at that point, I hesitated to jump ship = and make my own way back.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK                
(back) Subject: RE: Felix Hell in Saddle Brook, NJ - 7/22/02 From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:43:56 -0400   Oh no, I wouldn't NOT go to hear Felix. I certainly intend to one of these days. But until I do I have Malcolm.   -----Original Message----- From: Glenda [mailto:gksjd85@direcway.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 7:14 PM To: 'PipeChat' Subject: RE: Felix Hell in Saddle Brook, NJ - 7/22/02     No, Robert, you must go hear Felix for yourself. As glowingly and wonderfully as Malcolm writes about him, hearing and seeing him are a "must" experience, quite unlike anything else (even drinking Yuengling beer!).      
(back) Subject: RE: trashy organ music? From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:22:22 -0400   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C233DE.4F1C5B90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   There's no such thing as wrong notes: there's music as it is written and then there's interpretative improvisation. Uh, yeah, that's right, interpretative improvisation. RBC -----Original Message----- From: Chicaleee@aol.com [mailto:Chicaleee@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 11:28 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: trashy organ music?     For "good trash" that the congregation loves, go to the old Lorenz Gospel arrangement books from the 40's and 50's. Also Schuller had several. = Then there were the Mickelson arrangements of old hymn tunes. I find much of = the "regular" organ repertoire to be too "trashy" to use for church, = especially if it is so dissonant that all the notes sound like wrong notes. (At = least that is how our congregation would look at it). I have worked long and = hard on some music that I finally decided was inappropriate for a church = service. I play for an "audience of One," and want to give my best, even if it = seems like trash to some organists. Lee   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C233DE.4F1C5B90 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1">     <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4916.2300" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D196251213-25072002><FONT face=3D"Footlight MT Light" color=3D#800000>There's no such thing as wrong notes: there's music as it = is written and then there's interpretative improvisation.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D196251213-25072002><FONT face=3D"Footlight MT Light" color=3D#800000>Uh, yeah, that's right, interpretative improvisation.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D196251213-25072002><FONT face=3D"Footlight MT Light" color=3D#800000>RBC</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D196251213-25072002><FONT face=3D"Footlight MT Light" color=3D#800000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Chicaleee@aol.com [mailto:Chicaleee@aol.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 24, 2002 11:28 PM<BR><B>To:</B> pipechat@pipechat.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: trashy organ =   music?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>For = "good trash" that the congregation loves, go to the old Lorenz Gospel = arrangement books from the 40's and 50's. &nbsp;Also Schuller had several. &nbsp;Then = there were the Mickelson arrangements of old hymn tunes. &nbsp;I find much of = the "regular" organ repertoire to be too "trashy" to use for church, = especially if it is so dissonant that all the notes sound like wrong notes. &nbsp;(At = least that is how our congregation would look at it). &nbsp;I have worked long = and hard on some music that I finally decided was inappropriate for a church service. &nbsp;I play for an "audience of One," and want to give my best, = even if it seems like trash to some organists. &nbsp;Lee</FONT> = </FONT></BODY></HTML>   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C233DE.4F1C5B90--  
(back) Subject: Organs in Films From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:46:38 -0500   Well, there's no church, but there is a classic organ scene in the 1925 silent film version of Phantom of the Opera, starring Lon Chaney as the Phantom. In his underground grotto, he is seated at an organ (which really looks more like a large reed organ) playing, as I recall, "Don Juan Triumphant."   Presumably, in original settings, you would have heard a Wurlitzer, Barton, Marr & Colton, et. al.   Dennis Steckley   Ich liebe meine Katzen        
(back) Subject: Re: Claptrap - was trashy organ music From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:06:59 +0000   I am sorry to have offended Robert Lind's tender susceptibilities over = the word "claptrap", though I admit not to having consulted a dictionary prior =   to using it. I rather like the sound of it - preferable in my mind to = trash - and make no apologies for using it! I still think it fits this type of music, though not as a dictionary definition. I don't wish to get involved =   in a discussion on the semantics of word usage - and I qualified my statement by the use of the adjective "charming" - which is of course subjective. The Dupre works I had in mind were the Preludes and Fugues, Variations on a Noel, and Cortege and Litany: fine works, though if you choose to regard them as pretentious so be it. Yes, it is subjective. I haven't played all of Dupre's oeuvre by any means, but I doubt that it is claptrap, trash or whatever adjective you choose to describe it. I like = the Percy Whitlock - but it is claptrap IMNSHO! John Foss   _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Organs in Films From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:19:34 +0000   There was a post a couple or so weeks ago, which I have unfortunately mislaid, referring to a recent film which had quite a lot of organ music = in the background - it may have been "the remains of the day." Can anyone enlighten me? Incidentally, I have the American civil war great locomotive =   chase film on Video tape - this has a cinema organ backing. I recorded it off Greek TV about ten years ago. It must be the original with the organ added on - there are no details. I'm not sure of the copyright situation, but if I am not infringing any laws I could probablt make a copy if anyone =   is interested. John Foss   _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx    
(back) Subject: Re: trashy organ music? From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:33:26 EDT     --part1_91.207b7d76.2a71ac86_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 7/25/02 12:28:05 AM Atlantic Daylight Time, Chicaleee@aol.com writes: > For "good trash" that the congregation loves, go to the old Lorenz = Gospel > arrangement books from the 40's and 50's.   Oh dear, Lee. When you talk trash, you talk TRASH!!! ;-)   Bruce in the Muttestery HOWLING ACRES IS NEW NEW NEW... please visit   with the Baskerbeagles at <A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/brucon502">HowlingAcres</A> = http://members.tripod.com/brucon502 .... need extra money??? visit http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053 enjoy shopping?? visit www.freestoreclub.com/go/BDawg   --part1_91.207b7d76.2a71ac86_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 7/25/02 12:28:05 AM Atlantic = Daylight Time, Chicaleee@aol.com writes: <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">For "good trash" = that the congregation loves, go to the old Lorenz Gospel arrangement books = from the 40's and 50's.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0">Oh dear, = Lee.&nbsp;&nbsp; When you talk trash, you talk TRASH!!!&nbsp; ;-)<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Bruce in the = Muttestery&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#ff0080" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>HOWLING ACRES IS NEW NEW = NEW... please visit</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> <BR> with the Baskerbeagles at&nbsp; <A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/brucon502">HowlingAcres</A>&nbsp;&nbsp; = http://members.tripod.com/brucon502<BR> ....&nbsp; need extra money???&nbsp;&nbsp; visit&nbsp;&nbsp; = http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053<BR> enjoy shopping??&nbsp;&nbsp; visit&nbsp; www.freestoreclub.com/go/BDawg = <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_91.207b7d76.2a71ac86_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Frustration From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:33:30 EDT     --part1_16c.111a6602.2a71ac8a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 7/25/02 9:13:53 AM Atlantic Daylight Time, cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk writes: > > I've just returned from a most interesting jaunt   um.... Colin. I hope you weren't expecting sympathy!!! ;-)   Sounds like you had a great time. I suppose the lessons learned are that:   a) you can't do everything everytime, and b) you can always go back!   Thanks for the travel log!     Bruce in the Muttestery HOWLING ACRES IS NEW NEW NEW... please visit   with the Baskerbeagles at <A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/brucon502">HowlingAcres</A> = http://members.tripod.com/brucon502 .... need extra money??? visit http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053 enjoy shopping?? visit www.freestoreclub.com/go/BDawg   --part1_16c.111a6602.2a71ac8a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 7/25/02 9:13:53 AM Atlantic = Daylight Time, cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk writes: <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR> I've just returned from a most interesting jaunt</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> um.... Colin.&nbsp; I hope you weren't expecting sympathy!!!&nbsp;&nbsp; = ;-) <BR> <BR> Sounds like you had a great time.&nbsp; I suppose the lessons learned are = that:<BR> <BR> a) you can't do everything everytime, and<BR> b) you can always go back!<BR> <BR> Thanks for the travel log!<BR> <BR> <BR> Bruce in the Muttestery&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#ff0080" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>HOWLING ACRES IS NEW NEW = NEW... please visit</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> <BR> with the Baskerbeagles at&nbsp; <A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/brucon502">HowlingAcres</A>&nbsp;&nbsp; = http://members.tripod.com/brucon502<BR> ....&nbsp; need extra money???&nbsp;&nbsp; visit&nbsp;&nbsp; = http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053<BR> enjoy shopping??&nbsp;&nbsp; visit&nbsp; www.freestoreclub.com/go/BDawg = <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_16c.111a6602.2a71ac8a_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: trashy organ music? From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:36:27 -0400   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C23412.91BC7D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   Oops, it don't woik. I has too many erruhs HOWLING ACRES IS NEW NEW NEW... please visit       ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C23412.91BC7D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1">     <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4916.2300" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D393343519-25072002><FONT face=3D"Footlight MT Light" color=3D#800000>Oops, it don't woik. I has too many erruhs</FONT></SPAN></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#ff0080 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><B>HOWLING ACRES IS NEW NEW NEW... please = visit</FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 = size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"></B><BR><BR></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C23412.91BC7D20--  
(back) Subject: RE: Frustration From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:31:51 -0400   Maybe I saw you on RAI that evening. Were you wearing one of those red shirts? RBC   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D My only compensation was to have breakfast with the World Champion, = Michael Schumacher!!    
(back) Subject: Re: trashy organ music? From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:48:21 EDT     --part1_136.1160dce2.2a71da35_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 7/25/02 2:35:16 PM Central Daylight Time, Cremona502@cs.com writes:     > Oh dear, Lee. When you talk trash, you talk TRASH!!! ;-) > > Bruce in the Muttestery HOWLING ACRES IS NEW NEW NEW... please = visit > >   I waited as long as I could before contributing this post. When I was = taking organ lessons in the 50's Lorenz was a "definite no no." Now I find the books are "collector items." Lee   --part1_136.1160dce2.2a71da35_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 7/25/02 2:35:16 PM Central Daylight Time, Cremona502@cs.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px">Oh dear, Lee. &nbsp;&nbsp;When you talk trash, you talk TRASH!!! = &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Bruce in the Muttestery = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0080" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>HOWLING ACRES = IS NEW NEW NEW... please visit</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I waited as long as I could before contributing this post. &nbsp;When = I was taking organ lessons in the 50's Lorenz was a "definite no no." = &nbsp;Now I find the books are "collector items." &nbsp;Lee</FONT></HTML>   --part1_136.1160dce2.2a71da35_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: trashy organ music? From: "straight" <straight@infoblvd.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:07:29 -0400   I like Lorenz, and apparently a lot of other people do too, other than that they reprint a lot of pieces in their "specialty" books, and sometimes under different names, so it's hard to keep track of what you used when. I notice that they're still in business, and doing just fine. Got pretty good circulation figures.   Mostly they're just arrangements of hymns and classics. Some are average, some are boring, some are quite dramatic and spectacular ----or at least you can make them that way. The last few years almost every issue of The Organist and the Portfolio has had at least one Bach or Brahms or Gounod or something similar.   Most of them run from 1 to 3 1/2 min., and you can pick up most of them along from week to week without killing yourself, especially after you've got a collection and been around the year a few times.   I think the older issues are more difficult than the newer ones. And the newer ones have larger print, which is so much easier to read! And there's such a nice little writeup about each one, including some hints about playing it.   No, they're not concert performance pieces. They're for an ordinary church service, for the average player, where it keeps coming at you week after week after week, regardless of the weather, the flu, the visiting relatives, sore muscles, the minister's weird sermon, or anything else. You can always do something fancier anytime.   A lot of it is "mood music", to set the worship atmosphere, more than anything. And most of it is pretty flexible too.   They sound good and are relatively easy, which is the whole point, and I suppose is the problem for a college teacher. Maybe they were trying to teach the harder stuff, thinking you could pick up Lorenz anytime.   I did try a subscription to Pedalpoint, but it's pretty useless to me. I will not renew it. Mostly duets and piano music, and in small print.   Diane S.