PipeChat Digest #2897 - Wednesday, June 12, 2002
 
Re: So many questions, so little time . . .
  by "Jim Hailey" <jhaileya10@charter.net>
Re: 2nd Sunday after Trinity (X-posted)
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: LCMS Hymnal
  by <Pepehomer@aol.com>
Re: LCMS Hymnal
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: LCMS Hymnal
  by <Pepehomer@aol.com>
RE: LCMS Hymnal
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net>
Re: More  thoughts on organ tone
  by "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com>
Re: More  thoughts on digital tone
  by "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: So many questions, so little time . . . From: "Jim Hailey" <jhaileya10@charter.net> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:16:45 -0500   Well Glenda, I can help you with number 3. Come Sweet Death, is in the volume "At the Organ with Virgil Fox". It is a Warner Brothers = Publishing. This book also has several other works that Fox arranged and/or played. I think I ordered this from Barnes & Noble Online, but am not real sure.   Jim H     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org>; <PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:46 PM Subject: So many questions, so little time . . .     > Not to bore you with the organic aspects of my last week, I will plunge > in. Can any of you guide me to a music score edition, or if more than > one available, the best edition of the following: > > (1) Is there a volume or set of volumes of Bohm's works, especially the > Praeludia? > > (2) Similarly, is there a volume or set of volumes of Sweelinck's works? > I heard a version of "All glory be to God on high" with 4 verses today - > interesting and pretty characteristic. Heretofore all I've heard that I > really liked of his was the "My young life hath an end", and was not > terribly interested in the echo fantasia or whatever it is called. > > (3) I know that several organists have performed and recorded the > following, but is there a printed edition of: > (a) Virgil Fox's "Come, Sweet Death"? > (b) The "William Tell Overture"? > > Because I only speak or read German if sitting on a high window ledge > several stories above ground smoking marijuana, I will say only "Dank > ou". > > Beginning to squirm and itch for an organ of my own, > > Glenda Sutton > gksjd85@direcway.com > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: 2nd Sunday after Trinity (X-posted) From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:43:25 EDT   opus1100@catoe.org wrote:       > Hey man, gotta have time to hit the BEACH....surfs up > ya know<g>   Yeah, but...... the 11 am service gives you time to catch the morning = glass (before the wind kicks up). :-)  
(back) Subject: Re: LCMS Hymnal From: <Pepehomer@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:58:37 -0400   The address for the preview of the hymnal is:   http://worship.lcms.org/   I'm not wild about any one of the new liturgies on its own, however, if we = "cut and pasted" from all three, there would be a very nice third choice = of liturgy for weekly use!   Justin Karch Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS Rome, GA  
(back) Subject: Re: LCMS Hymnal From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 00:09:47 -0400   On 6/11/02 11:58 PM, "Pepehomer@aol.com" <Pepehomer@aol.com> wrote:   > The address for the preview of the hymnal is: > > http://worship.lcms.org/ > > I'm not wild about any one of the new liturgies on its own, however, if = we > "cut and pasted" from all three, there would be a very nice third choice = of > liturgy for weekly use! > > Justin Karch   Justin: I haven't even peeked yet. In the morning, if I can. But, just = to clarify, are you talking about textual or musical concerns, or both?   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: LCMS Hymnal From: <Pepehomer@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 00:13:55 -0400     > Justin: I haven't even peeked yet. In the morning, if I can. But, = just to > clarify, are you talking about textual or musical concerns, > or both? > > Alan   I'm concerned about the music, since the texts are pretty much all the = same. Some I think will go over well, while some won't at all. Just my = personal tastes. Regardless I would still take "Page 15" over any of = them!   Justin      
(back) Subject: RE: LCMS Hymnal From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:20:13 -0500     > I'm concerned about the music, since the texts are pretty much > all the same. Some I think will go over well, while some won't > at all. Just my personal tastes. Regardless I would still take > "Page 15" over any of them!   You know, I used to feel that page 158 was "IT" as far as liturgies, but I have to admit that I'm finding a lot of joy and satisfaction in two non-LCMS-produced liturgies: Setting Five from "With One Voice", and = Marty Haugen's "Now the Feast". Both services have everything Lutheran that's needed (with a few extra phrases here and there), and are musically nice = to sing. The only drawback is Now the Feast is really written for piano and Setting V does sound better on piano, although I've been doing it on the organ. The neat part is they can be used in traditional and contemporary services equally well! I know, because we've done it, and the = congregation really favors them over Setting One (which is our page 158).   Just something to add to the mix...I like all the liturgies, although I think page 15 is rather stale (no offense.) But, it's not really the = music that makes it, but what the entire liturgy is doing for us...that is...worshiping the Lord. Whatever service is used to do that is equally effective, IMHO.   Regards, Jeff    
(back) Subject: Re: More thoughts on organ tone From: "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 21:49:11 -0700 (PDT)   Dear Ron:   Thanks for a really good analysis of the Zumfarten era. To be someone who loves organs so much, I have had many a good laugh listening to one of these cuckoo clock organs with flush-toilet action chiffing away in a dead room.   The best one was a dedicatory recital in a Methodist church in which Lionel Rogg played Tu Es Petra on an Andover tracker organ. I thought that the reservoirs (or whatever they use to regulate the wind, if anything) were going right through the ceiling before that fiasco was over.   I am reminded of Robert Burns' poem THE LOUSE in which he said (changed to modern English), "Ah if only we could see ourselves as others see us!"   D. Keith Morgan     --- RonSeverin@aol.com wrote: > Dear Robert: > > When you and I grew up, about the same time > actually, weren't we > sort of told what we were supposed to like. I think > we lived through > the Emperors new clothes stage, and finally decided > before it was too > late, that great music could indeed be played on > Skinners and M=F6llers. > I think at some point in our service playing career > we decided that it > is indeed necessary to have at least two enclosed > divisions for playing > a service, some soft stops, strings and celestes, > more than a 16' > Subbass in the pedal. Stops that blended, and some > decent reeds > again. Bee's in a bottle just didn't cut it Holz > zunfauren suddenly lost > any real meaning, and we realized it was just junk > after all the hype. > It was all nice while under the spell, but we woke > up didn't we? Tons > of others too. These little Zumfarten machines > didn't sound very well > in dead rooms with equal temperment either. There > are some really > great builders today, who build an organ with > warmth, well temper, > and very nice instruments to play a service on. > Hopefully, gone are the > days of the three stop Hauptwerke with a small scale > Gedacht 8' > 4' Spritzoid and a mixture XII 2/3'. This > exaggeration is not that far > afield. > > Thank God, we finally woke up and actually smelled > the coffee. > > Ron Severin > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: More thoughts on digital tone From: "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 21:59:53 -0700 (PDT)   Dear David:   I saw that organ many years ago when it was less than 10 years old. It certainly is a georgous instrument, and the building is equally fine.   Considering the musical requirements of the Christian Science Church, it is about as appropriate there as a prayer chapel would be in a whorehouse.   D. Keioth Morgan     --- David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> wrote: > At 12:33 PM -0400 06/11/2002, lab wrote: > >But would the Flentrop sound be "ideal" for a > Baptist church in say > >Arkansas? > > > > Well, maybe the Baptists don't buy Flentrops but the > Christian > Science Society in Batesville, Arkansas does have a > Flentrop. Check > http://www.cacago.org/stoplists/CCSBV.html > > Our Chapter had Will Headlee recreate the Dedicatory > Recital that E. > Power Biggs played 42 years ago on that organ as one > of our Chapter > programs this year. It is a wonderful little > instrument and fits the > room perfectly. > > David > -- > ******************************************* > David Scribner > Editor - Central Arkansas Chapter Newsletter > mailto:editor@cacago.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com