PipeChat Digest #2902 - Thursday, June 13, 2002
 
Re: Paul Manz
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: With One Voice clarification
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Makin Regal 338/Johannus Opus 30
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
RE: Paul Manz
  by "Savage, Boyd" <bsavage@fredlaw.com>
Re: With One Voice clarification
  by <MyrtleBeachMusic@aol.com>
Re: Makin Regal 338/Johannus Opus 30
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: With One Voice clarification
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: With One Voice clarification
  by <DrB88@aol.com>
The Essentials of a Small Organ
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
Re: With One Voice clarification
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
RE: WOV, LBW, and Luth. Liturgical Music as a Whole
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
Re: WOV, LBW, and Luth. Liturgical Music as a Whole
  by <DrB88@aol.com>
Re: The Essentials of a Small Organ
  by <OrganMD@aol.com>
Cavaille-Coll
  by "David Carter" <david_n_carter@hotmail.com>
RE: The Essentials of a Small Organ
  by "Nance, Daryel" <DNance@svdp-edu.org>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Paul Manz From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 08:25:43 -0400   On 6/12/02 7:09 PM, "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> wrote:   > On 6/12/02 4:25 PM, "Phil_Cooper@dot.ca.gov" <Phil_Cooper@dot.ca.gov> = wrote: > >> Question: Is Paul Manz still alive? If so, where can I contact him? >> Oops. Mark Sedio did not succeed Paul Manz at Mount Olivet, but at Mount Olive.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: With One Voice clarification From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:11:36 -0400   on 6/13/02 12:53 AM, Jeff White at reedstop@prodigy.net wrote:   >>> Has anyone used With One Voice setting 6, in which one chooses >> from several >>> Kyries, Glorias, etc. in the rest of the hymnal? Some of those seem >>> interesting, but with the drawback that parishioners have to do more >>> page-turning and -searching. >>> > > This is why we print everything (except hymns) in the bulletin. WOV and = LBW > both have a CD which has all the TIFF files you need to just insert it = into > your document. Then there's no flipping. (I could be wrong about the > various Kyrie's and Glorias, however....never looked.) > > Jeff >   Yes, but one should not forget that Augsburg Fortress does charge $49 annually for the license to print from WOV; for LBW it's a one-time fee of $29. It's my understanding that that covers liturgy as well as hymns. = It's all spelled out on their web site. Didn't know about the CD though; that would make it a lot more convenient. I really like the idea of printing everything in the bulletin, which we were contemplating doing anyway. = That would make using Setting 6 a piece of cake.   Trouble is, of course, as someone just pointed out and I know only all too well, Lutherans prefer to keep things the same. I was told by the = president of the church council that if we tried anything other than settings 1 or 2 in the LBW (e.g., setting 5 in WOV), at least a few people would leave the church.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu          
(back) Subject: Re: Makin Regal 338/Johannus Opus 30 From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:53:44 -0400   At 09:41 PM 6/12/2002 -0700, you wrote: >In response to rare servicing events for Johannus. I find that service >needs are about on par with the other organ brands. I would not say = that >servicing is rare as it really depends on a lot of factors. What I am = also >trying to say is that Johannus does not have a toll-free number for us to >call and that is something that really needs to be addressed. I have >nothing bad to say about Johannus at all, and have been very happy with = the >technical support and other parts of their >product. >Harvey   Harvey and list,   I think you are probably correct in the frequency of service for Johannus, =   at least for the newer ones. There is a digital Johannus here in town (Toronto), however that has been rather unreliable though. Computers have =   gone down, amplifiers fired, speakers that distorted etc.   The Johannus organs that are problematic though are the ones built in the 1980s. Lots of key contact problems, some amplifiers that cooked, inadequate bridge rectifiers in power supplies etc. The worst part though =   was the sound of those instruments. They sounded like amplified = accordians.   I have had to deal with Johannus for parts, and they were prompt to deal with, although I think I had to wait about a week to get the parts.   The biggest problem that we have here in Ontario, is that the various Johannus dealers operate under the radar screen. In other words they are ready to sell, but not so ready to service, especially the older organs. Seems like they don't stock any parts, other than maybe some fuses. I have been called in to service 10 or 12 year old instruments, = and I was the 3rd or 4th techie looking at the thing. This kind of thing can only hurt the reputation of the company.   As to Musicom, this company is run I believe by Tony Koorlander, who at = one time worked at Wyvern. Wyvern was sort of a partner in the 1980s in the development of the Bradford computing system. I think in the last 10 = years or so, he has developed the Musicom system apart from the Bradford system, =   so that now in the broadest terms, they are similar, their capabilites are =   somewhat different. They are both into real-time tone generation.   Arie V.    
(back) Subject: RE: Paul Manz From: "Savage, Boyd" <bsavage@fredlaw.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 08:53:25 -0500   >His successor as cantor at Mount Olivet was Mark Sedio, who's probably in the Minneapolis phone directory. You could give him a try.<   Mark Sedio is the organist at my church, Central Lutheran, in Minneapolis. You can reach him by calling 612-870-4416.   Boyd      
(back) Subject: Re: With One Voice clarification From: <MyrtleBeachMusic@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:20:07 EDT     --part1_184.9b39933.2a3a0417_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 6/13/2002 9:17:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, runyonr@muohio.edu writes:     > Trouble is, of course, as someone just pointed out and I know only all = too > well, Lutherans prefer to keep things the same. I was told by the > president > of the church council that if we tried anything other than settings 1 or = 2 > in the LBW (e.g., setting 5 in WOV), at least a few people would leave = the > church.   You're right, they do like to keep everything the same. HOWEVER, it is = the responsibility of church leadership -- pastoral, musical, educational, or otherwise -- to "LEAD" their congregations to growth in the Spirit. = Leaders who buckle constantly to the timeless "I'll leave" threat are doing a huge =   disservice to themselves and the congregations they serve. Compromising ministry to appease a fuddy-duddy is just not right.   --part1_184.9b39933.2a3a0417_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 6/13/2002 9:17:01 AM Eastern = Daylight Time, runyonr@muohio.edu writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Trouble is, of = course, as someone just pointed out and I know only all too<BR> well, Lutherans prefer to keep things the same.&nbsp; I was told by the = president<BR> of the church council that if we tried anything other than settings 1 or = 2<BR> in the LBW (e.g., setting 5 in WOV), at least a few people would leave = the<BR> church.&nbsp; </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> You're right, they do like to keep everything the same.&nbsp; HOWEVER, it = is the responsibility of church leadership -- pastoral, musical, = educational, or otherwise -- to "LEAD" their congregations to growth in = the Spirit.&nbsp; Leaders who buckle constantly to the timeless "I'll = leave" threat are doing a huge disservice to themselves and the = congregations they serve.&nbsp; Compromising ministry to appease a = fuddy-duddy is just not right.</FONT></HTML>   --part1_184.9b39933.2a3a0417_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Makin Regal 338/Johannus Opus 30 From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:23:28 EDT   Dear Arie:   To be perfectly frank, all digital, and pipe organ power supplies could benefit greatly with a well grounded Line Cleaner. This is a device that makes sure power is always delivered without spikes or surges. Without it any number of components can be fried on any type of organ. Surge protected plugs aren't enough even for your PC. Lightning hits are the most devastating, but with the above, no damage.   Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: With One Voice clarification From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:27:11 -0400   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --MS_Mac_OE_3106808831_664506_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit   on 6/13/02 10:20 AM, MyrtleBeachMusic@aol.com at MyrtleBeachMusic@aol.com wrote:   In a message dated 6/13/2002 9:17:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, runyonr@muohio.edu writes:     Trouble is, of course, as someone just pointed out and I know only all too well, Lutherans prefer to keep things the same. I was told by the = president of the church council that if we tried anything other than settings 1 or 2 in the LBW (e.g., setting 5 in WOV), at least a few people would leave the church.     You're right, they do like to keep everything the same. HOWEVER, it is = the responsibility of church leadership -- pastoral, musical, educational, or otherwise -- to "LEAD" their congregations to growth in the Spirit. = Leaders who buckle constantly to the timeless "I'll leave" threat are doing a huge disservice to themselves and the congregations they serve. Compromising ministry to appease a fuddy-duddy is just not right.   Sure, but the pastor of my church refuses to lead; he's told me several times all he wants is to keep his job. "Let's not rock the boat": his precise words. So you think I should step into the breach and risk mine?     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu       --MS_Mac_OE_3106808831_664506_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: With One Voice clarification</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> on 6/13/02 10:20 AM, MyrtleBeachMusic@aol.com at MyrtleBeachMusic@aol.com = w=3D rote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">In a message dated = 6/13/2002 =3D 9:17:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, runyonr@muohio.edu writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT = FACE=3D3D"Arial">Trouble is, of =3D course, as someone just pointed out and I know only all too<BR> well, Lutherans prefer to keep things the same. &nbsp;I was told by the = pre=3D sident<BR> of the church council that if we tried anything other than settings 1 or = 2<=3D BR> in the LBW (e.g., setting 5 in WOV), at least a few people would leave = the<=3D BR> church. &nbsp;<BR> </FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial"><BR> <BR> You're right, they do like to keep everything the same. &nbsp;HOWEVER, it = i=3D s the responsibility of church leadership -- pastoral, musical, = educational,=3D or otherwise -- to &quot;LEAD&quot; their congregations to growth in the = Sp=3D irit. &nbsp;Leaders who buckle constantly to the timeless &quot;I'll = leave&q=3D uot; threat are doing a huge disservice to themselves and the = congregations =3D they serve. &nbsp;Compromising ministry to appease a fuddy-duddy is just = not=3D right.</FONT></FONT> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Sure, but the pastor of my church refuses to lead; he's told me several = tim=3D es all he wants is to keep his job. &quot;Let's not rock the boat&quot;: = &nb=3D sp;his precise words. &nbsp;So you think I should step into the breach and = r=3D isk mine?<BR> <BR> <BR> Randy Runyon<BR> Music Director<BR> Zion Lutheran Church<BR> Hamilton, Ohio<BR> runyonr@muohio.edu<BR> <BR> </BODY> </HTML>     --MS_Mac_OE_3106808831_664506_MIME_Part--    
(back) Subject: Re: With One Voice clarification From: <DrB88@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:04:17 EDT     --part1_b2.cec4987.2a3a0e71_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit     Yes, but one should not forget that Augsburg Fortress does charge $49 annually for the license to print from WOV; for LBW it's a one-time fee of $29. It's my understanding that that covers liturgy as well as hymns. = It's all spelled out on their web site. Didn't know about the CD though; that would make it a lot more convenient.   The CD cost covers the license to use the materials. It is wonderful. We =   use it all the time as well.     I really like the idea of printing > > everything in the bulletin, which we were contemplating doing anyway. = That > would make using Setting 6 a piece of cake. >   The only flip side to printing all of the liturgies, of course, is people evenutally not knowing the Hymnal as well....We questioned it in the Episcopal church too, wanting people to know their way around the BCP, and =   ended up printing most everything on Festivals and Sundays when we knew = we'd have more visitors present (Baptismal Festivals, etc.)...doing less on a Sunday by Sunday basis.   > Trouble is, of course, as someone just pointed out and I know only all = too > well, Lutherans prefer to keep things the same. I was told by the > president > of the church council that if we tried anything other than settings 1 or = 2 > in the LBW (e.g., setting 5 in WOV), at least a few people would leave = the > church. > > Geez......don't you want to just tell them to get a life?! My kids would have no idea what ice cream tasted like either--IF we hadn't given them = some to try! Some appetites have to be cultivated...but it is worth it in the long run. And Lutherans aren't the only ones who like sameness....as I'm sure you well know!   The manner in which something is presented may have everything to do with = its acceptance... Congregational rehearsals prior to the beginning of the = service on a new hymn or a new facet of the liturgy are not unusual in our parish. = Sometimes you just have to take the risk... the results may not be as catastrophic as some folks think!   Having been in those kinds of situations before, I wish you the best!!   David B. in Chicago       --part1_b2.cec4987.2a3a0e71_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Yes, but one should not forget that Augsburg Fortress does charge $49<BR> annually for the license to print from WOV; for LBW it's a one-time fee = of<BR> $29.&nbsp; It's my understanding that that covers liturgy as well as = hymns.&nbsp; It's<BR> all spelled out on their web site.&nbsp; Didn't know about the CD though; = that<BR> would make it a lot more convenient.&nbsp; </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">The CD cost covers = the license to use the materials.&nbsp; It is wonderful.&nbsp; We use it = all the time as well.<BR> <BR> <BR> I really like the idea of printing</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE = TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR> everything in the bulletin, which we were contemplating doing = anyway.&nbsp; That<BR> would make using Setting 6 a piece of cake.<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">The only flip side = to printing all of the liturgies, of course, is people evenutally not knowing the Hymnal as well....We questioned it in the Episcopal = church too, wanting people to know their way around the BCP, and ended up = printing most everything on Festivals and Sundays when we knew we'd have = more visitors present (Baptismal Festivals, etc.)...doing less on a Sunday = by Sunday basis.&nbsp; </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Trouble is, of = course, as someone just pointed out and I know only all too<BR> well, Lutherans prefer to keep things the same.&nbsp; I was told by the = president<BR> of the church council that if we tried anything other than settings 1 or = 2<BR> in the LBW (e.g., setting 5 in WOV), at least a few people would leave = the<BR> church.&nbsp; <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Geez......don't you want to just tell them to get a life?!&nbsp; My kids = would have no idea what ice cream tasted like either--IF we hadn't given = them some to try!&nbsp; Some appetites have to be cultivated...but it is = worth it in the long run.&nbsp; And Lutherans aren't the only ones who = like sameness....as I'm sure you well know!&nbsp; <BR> <BR> The manner in which something is presented may have everything to do with = its acceptance... Congregational rehearsals prior to the beginning of the = service on a new hymn or a new facet of the liturgy are not unusual in our = parish.&nbsp; Sometimes you just have to take the risk...&nbsp; the = results may not be as catastrophic as some folks think!<BR> <BR> Having been in those kinds of situations before, I wish you the best!!<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">David B. in = Chicago<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_b2.cec4987.2a3a0e71_boundary--  
(back) Subject: The Essentials of a Small Organ From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:23:48 EDT   Hey gang, as I sit and scribble out specifications during my tedious World =   History Summer class, I wonder what is essential to smaller organs. With = my church approaching the time for a new organ, and with other churches doing =   such, I'm curious as to what you all think. I know much depends upon the room, so lets set the mood:   500 Seat Church Acoustic of about 1 to 2 seconds Space for about 12 to 14 ranks. 15 voice choir   Lets see some stoplists...   Pete Isherwood  
(back) Subject: Re: With One Voice clarification From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:28:17 EDT   Dear Randy:   IMHO it seems that the politician pastor is something we may have to live with, because we put checks and balances on him. He has to live with compromise in order to survive. We've done that consciously. The musicians also are forced to behave in the same manner, don't rock the boat.   Now lets look at our true leader, Jesus. He never compromised, and never spoke an idle word. He had Authority because He is God. We are expected to follow His example. He was never wishy washy. You either heard Him and what he had to say or you rejected it. If you turely wanted in your life what He offered, you followed him, if not you didn't. It's an all or nothing proposition, and we must never forget that to our peril. There is no = middle road. Either you are hot or cold, and lukewarm doesn't come close to cutting it. It take courage and backbone to follow an example like that. Either you have it, can acquire it, or you don't. Pretending? There's no room for that. To speak in Uno Voce is to pattern our life after His.   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: RE: WOV, LBW, and Luth. Liturgical Music as a Whole From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:29:22 -0400   Jeremy Rush writes:   >Coincidentally (and perhaps as a gift from God to get me out of = "repetition land") I ended up in the Episcopal Church and have been there for several years now. We rarely, if ever, sing the same service music two weeks in a row. It has amazed me how energetically a congregation will sing service music when it hasn't been done to death.   Some clergy are great about using the hymnal adventurously and wanting to develop the congregation's repertoire, but regard any proposed change in = the service music as major surgery. I don't get it. Does this resistance = come from pastoral concern and experience, or is it just them?   I'm going to save your testimonial above for such situations. I've heard the same before. Of course, congregations vary and some are more amenable to variety and challenge than others-- but when they take new hymns = without complaint, what would keep them from trying a new service setting once = every year or two?   Do you think that rotating settings weekly is important to foster this admirable attitude, or would it be maintained just as well by changing monthly or with the liturgical season?   Paul        
(back) Subject: Re: WOV, LBW, and Luth. Liturgical Music as a Whole From: <DrB88@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:43:18 EDT     --part1_13c.fc054d2.2a3a1796_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   My two cents' worth on your question is that changing settings with = seasons is frequent enough, although I grant that some congregations may be accustomed to more frequent changes.   C. S. Lewis said something about "the best shoe being an old shoe..." and = " ....as long as you're still learning the steps, you're not really = dancing..." I forget the exact wording, but the bottom line was that there is value in =   ritual... people knowing the liturgy (and here I'm including the setting[s])... so that they can focus on the music as the vehicle for = their worship....and not an end in itself.   My fear would be that too frequent a change could result in worshipers = being unable to focus on their purpose---worship---because they are too = preoccupied with the vehicle of expression. The balance here will be different in = every parish, I imagine, but is a worthy consideration.   My experience has been that changes in the settings of the liturgy for seasons like Advent and Lent are helpful in accentuating the penitential nature of the season. More festive settings are used for Christmastide = and Eastertide... and variety during the lengthy season after Pentecost. I'm sure there are many ways of doing it....this is just "One Voice" speaking...LOL!   Over time, a congregation can come to expect such changes each time the = cycle is passed... and the changes themselves become tradition...and welcome.   David B. in Chicago   --part1_13c.fc054d2.2a3a1796_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">My two cents' worth on your question is that = changing settings with seasons is frequent enough, although I grant that = some congregations may be accustomed to more frequent changes.&nbsp; <BR> <BR> C. S. Lewis said something about "the best shoe being an old shoe..." and = " ...as long as you're still learning the steps, you're not really = dancing..."&nbsp; I forget the exact wording, but the bottom line was that = there is value in ritual... people knowing the liturgy (and here I'm = including the setting[s])... so that they can focus on the music as the = vehicle for their worship....and not an end in itself.&nbsp; <BR> <BR> My fear would be that too frequent a change could result in worshipers = being unable to focus on their purpose---worship---because they are too = preoccupied with the vehicle of expression.&nbsp; The balance here will be = different in every parish, I imagine, but is a worthy consideration.&nbsp; = <BR> <BR> My experience has been that changes in the settings of the liturgy for = seasons like Advent and Lent are helpful in accentuating the penitential = nature of the season.&nbsp; More festive settings are used for = Christmastide and Eastertide... and variety during the lengthy season = after Pentecost.&nbsp; I'm sure there are many ways of doing it....this is = just "One Voice" speaking...LOL!<BR> <BR> Over time, a congregation can come to expect such changes each time the = cycle is passed... and the changes themselves become tradition...and = welcome.<BR> <BR> David B.<BR> in Chicago</FONT></HTML>   --part1_13c.fc054d2.2a3a1796_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: The Essentials of a Small Organ From: <OrganMD@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:47:38 EDT     --part1_142.fe20c3c.2a3a189a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi Pete.......   The question of a small or organ is always an interesting challenge = indeed. However, one piece of information that I would find helpful is....... = what kind of music does this church do? A very traditional service, CCM, Bach = to Broadway?   Bill   --part1_142.fe20c3c.2a3a189a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3>Hi Pete.......<BR> <BR> The question of a small or organ is always an interesting challenge = indeed.&nbsp; However, one piece of information that I would find helpful = is.......&nbsp; what kind of music does this church do?&nbsp; A very = traditional service, CCM, Bach to Broadway?<BR> <BR> Bill</FONT></HTML>   --part1_142.fe20c3c.2a3a189a_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Cavaille-Coll From: "David Carter" <david_n_carter@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:51:29 +0000   Good Morning, Fellow Pipechatters - Not having much knowledge of French pronunciation, could a list member provide me (privately if you wish, or on list if you think it might be of general interest), the French phonetic pronunciation of Cavaille-Coll?   Thank you! David Carter - In sunny, not-quite-as-hot-as-Monday Sacramento, CA     _________________________________________________________________ Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: RE: The Essentials of a Small Organ From: "Nance, Daryel" <DNance@svdp-edu.org> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:02:04 -0500   First decide is "the" primary job: 1.) accompaning the congregation & = choir, and creating ambient moods for liturgy; or, 2.) in your heart of hearts, = are you wanting a program instrument in 12 to 14 ranks.   As Indiana Jones was told in the Quest of the Holy Grail, "Choose wisely, ...choose wisely!". (..from someone who has 25 of 54 ranks in "mixtures"). ;-> daryel       Daryel Nance St.Vincent de Paul Church, Houston mailto:dnance@svdp-edu.org www.dompaulbenoit.com ; www.church-organist.com ; www.daryeln.com ; www.ruah.info   "...the only ones among you who will really be happy are those who sought and found how to serve." Albert Schwietzer         -----Original Message----- From: Oboe32@aol.com [mailto:Oboe32@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:24 AM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: The Essentials of a Small Organ     Hey gang, as I sit and scribble out specifications during my tedious World =   History Summer class, I wonder what is essential to smaller organs. With = my church approaching the time for a new organ, and with other churches doing =   such, I'm curious as to what you all think. I know much depends upon the room, so lets set the mood:   500 Seat Church Acoustic of about 1 to 2 seconds Space for about 12 to 14 ranks. 15 voice choir   Lets see some stoplists...   Pete Isherwood   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org