PipeChat Digest #2916 - Tuesday, June 18, 2002
 
Glenda's Sunday Dinner--off topic
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: Digital creativity
  by "r" <basset3@citlink.net>
Shining on
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Digital creativity
  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca>
Re: Shining on
  by "Roger Brown" <rbrown7@bigpond.net.au>
Re: Glenda's Sunday Dinner--off topic
  by "David Carter" <david_n_carter@hotmail.com>
RE: Glenda's Sunday Dinner--off topic
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: Shining on
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Digital creativity
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
St. Gervais, Paris (X-posted)
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Notre Dame in Vernon, France
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
 

(back) Subject: Glenda's Sunday Dinner--off topic From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 07:21:53 EDT   >A classic Southern Sunday lunch would be more on the order of homemade <fried chicken, the drippings used to make the brown gravy, and probably >served with rice rather than mashed potatoes; turnip or collard greens, >with rooster spur pepper sauce and relish on the side; squash cut up >with onions and cooked in an iron skillet until all the water is cooked >out OR squash or eggplant sliced, lightly floured and fried; okra, >either battered and fried or not battered and fried much in the same >fashion as the squash; sliced tomatoes OR stewed tomatoes OR tomato >gravy; sliced onions and cucumbers in vinegar; fresh garden onions; and >peach cobbler or chocolate cake with ice cream. This would be served >with homemade biscuits and cornbread, with sweetened ice tea.   Glenda-- That is the kind of food we eat here in South Carolina. I love the summer =   when all the vegetables on the table are brought right in from the garden. = Nothing beats a meal like this, except you forgot the essential accoutrement---fried fatback. What is better than fried fat? IT's a = heart attack in the making, but tastes so good!   >This from an area where for years the only organ was the Hammond.   No, no.....this from an area where for years the only organ still is the Hammond! lol Where I live, if a church doesn't have a Hammond, they've upgraded an = bought an Allen. If they have a pipe organ, you can pretty much gamble on the = fact that it's a Moller. In this part of SC, the Allen dealer and Moller rep = have had strong inroads. Unfortunately, some of the Hammond installations = sound better than the 3 rank Artistes and 1975 Allens.       Monty Bennett          
(back) Subject: Re: Digital creativity From: "r" <basset3@citlink.net> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 07:39:50 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0062_01C2169B.54244400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   --Now sing it 100 times over and over to please everyone -- then review = =3D your opinion.=3D20   --"Please explain." Lee   On Sunday I, once again, had to play "Spirit Song" for the umpteenth =3D time this year. The Sunday School starts off each week with "Shine." =3D "Awesome God" is another overdone one. For hymn warm-up's someone =3D always calls out "Rugged Cross" or "Garden." Please I'm so tired of =3D playing them over and over. With chimes, without chimes, soft, loud. =3D Please, please choose something else and vary the selection. "Shalom" =3D and "Till We Meet" -- don't people know anything else? I enjoy variety = =3D and they each have their place at the appropriate time -- but not every = =3D single Sunday of the year. I even knew a rural UMC congregation that =3D closed every week with "Edelweiss." Why, the sugar syrup was dripping =3D from the vaulted ceiling!   My apologies for ranting. How about some of those good ole "blood =3D hymns" that we don't sing anymore? The "Christian soldiers" have been =3D remanded to their barracks as well (tongue-in-cheek; yes, I'm aware of =3D the PC theology). But a Bombarde on those pedals makes it a really fun = =3D march when you play the refrain/chorus (boom-boom, boom-boom =3D alternating). Enough already.   Robert Clooney (Middletown, NY) =3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0062_01C2169B.54244400 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4207.2601" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D3D2>--Now sing it 100 = times =3D over and=3D20 over to please everyone -- then review your=3D20 opinion.&nbsp;<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2=3D20 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>--"Please explain." &nbsp;Lee</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>On Sunday I, once again, had to play = =3D "Spirit Song"=3D20 for the umpteenth time this year.&nbsp; The Sunday School starts off =3D each week=3D20 with "Shine."&nbsp; "Awesome God" is another overdone one.&nbsp; For =3D hymn=3D20 warm-up's someone always calls out "Rugged Cross" or "Garden."&nbsp; =3D Please I'm=3D20 so tired of playing them over and over.&nbsp; With chimes, without =3D chimes, soft,=3D20 loud.&nbsp; Please, please choose something else and vary the =3D selection.&nbsp;=3D20 "Shalom" and "Till&nbsp;We Meet" --&nbsp;don't people know anything =3D else?&nbsp;=3D20 I enjoy variety and they each have their place at the appropriate time =3D -- but=3D20 not every single Sunday of the&nbsp;year.&nbsp; I even knew a&nbsp;rural = =3D UMC=3D20 congregation that closed every week with&nbsp;"Edelweiss."&nbsp; Why, =3D the sugar=3D20 syrup was dripping from the vaulted ceiling!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>My apologies for ranting.&nbsp; How = =3D about some of=3D20 those good ole "blood hymns" that we don't sing anymore?&nbsp; The =3D "Christian=3D20 soldiers" have been remanded to their barracks as well (tongue-in-cheek; = =3D yes,=3D20 I'm aware of the PC theology).&nbsp; But a Bombarde on those pedals =3D makes it a=3D20 really fun march when you play the refrain/chorus (boom-boom, = boom-boom=3D20 alternating).&nbsp; Enough already.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Robert Clooney (Middletown,=3D20 NY)&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0062_01C2169B.54244400--    
(back) Subject: Shining on From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:18:20 -0400   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --MS_Mac_OE_3107240300_142050_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit     I agree with you, Robert, that it's ridiculous to sing the same song over and over again. It becomes a form of idol-worship when the church members think only one hymn is appropriate for a given occasion, such as the Doxology at the presentation of the gifts or "Shine, Jesus, Shine" at the beginning of every Sunday School. The hymn becomes an idol, an object of worship. We have a Sunday School opening, too. I have a great = song-leader who picks three different hymns each time, never the same from week to = week. We use the Celebration Hymnal for that occasion and the people love to explore its riches. We do it in the church gym and I accompany on the piano. We will have sung "Shine, Jesus, Shine" only once in twelve months for the Sunday School opening and no more often than that in the regular church service, because for both venues the people know there are a wealth of other songs from which they can also derive inspiration. I disagree = with you, Roger Brown, about the value of "Shine." You write that it "is ephemeral and lacking in spiritual or musical substance." There is no way = I could convince you of its music value unless we sat down and sang it together, and probably not even then. But what fault can you possibly = find with these words: "Lord, the light of your love is shining, in the midst = of the darkness, shining; Jesus, light of the world, shine upon us, set us free by the truth you now bring us.... As we gaze on your kingly = brightness, so our faces display your likeness, ever changing from glory to glory, mirrored here, may our lives tell your story." Do you not like that theology?   Anyone having trouble with a worship and music committee that wants to = dumb down the liturgy and the music should make them read Marva Dawn's book "Reaching Out without Dumbing Down." Good ammunition for keeping the barbarians from entering the gate. She likes "Shine, Jesus, Shine," by = the way.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu         on 6/18/02 7:39 AM, r at basset3@citlink.net wrote:   --Now sing it 100 times over and over to please everyone -- then review = your opinion.   --"Please explain." Lee On Sunday I, once again, had to play "Spirit Song" for the umpteenth time this year. The Sunday School starts off each week with "Shine." "Awesome God" is another overdone one. For hymn warm-up's someone always calls out "Rugged Cross" or "Garden." Please I'm so tired of playing them over and over. With chimes, without chimes, soft, loud. Please, please choose something else and vary the selection. "Shalom" and "Till We Meet" -- = don't people know anything else? I enjoy variety and they each have their place at the appropriate time -- but not every single Sunday of the year. I = even knew a rural UMC congregation that closed every week with "Edelweiss." = Why, the sugar syrup was dripping from the vaulted ceiling! My apologies for ranting. How about some of those good ole "blood hymns" that we don't sing anymore? The "Christian soldiers" have been remanded = to their barracks as well (tongue-in-cheek; yes, I'm aware of the PC = theology). But a Bombarde on those pedals makes it a really fun march when you play = the refrain/chorus (boom-boom, boom-boom alternating). Enough already. Robert Clooney (Middletown, NY)         --MS_Mac_OE_3107240300_142050_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Shining on</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <BR> I agree with you, Robert, that it's ridiculous to sing the same song over = a=3D nd over again. &nbsp;It becomes a form of idol-worship when the church = membe=3D rs think only one hymn is appropriate for a given occasion, such as the = Doxo=3D logy at the presentation of the gifts or &quot;Shine, Jesus, Shine&quot; = at =3D the beginning of every Sunday School. &nbsp;The hymn becomes an idol, an = obj=3D ect of worship. &nbsp;We have a Sunday School opening, too. &nbsp;I have a = g=3D reat song-leader who picks three different hymns each time, never the same = f=3D rom week to week. &nbsp;We use the Celebration Hymnal for that occasion = and =3D the people love to explore its riches. &nbsp;We do it in the church gym = and =3D I accompany on the piano. &nbsp;We will have sung &quot;Shine, Jesus, = Shine&=3D quot; only once in twelve months for the Sunday School opening and no more = o=3D ften than that in the regular church service, because for both venues the = pe=3D ople know there are a wealth of other songs from which they can also = derive =3D inspiration. &nbsp;I disagree with you, Roger Brown, about the value of = &quo=3D t;Shine.&quot; &nbsp;You write that it &quot;<TT>is ephemeral and lacking = in=3D spiritual or musical substance.&quot; &nbsp;There is no way I could = convinc=3D e you of its music value unless we sat down and sang it together, and = probab=3D ly not even then. &nbsp;But what fault can you possibly find with these = word=3D s: &nbsp;&quot;Lord, the light of your love is shining, in the midst of = the =3D darkness, shining; &nbsp;Jesus, light of the world, shine upon us, set us = fr=3D ee by the truth you now bring us.... As we gaze on your kingly brightness, = s=3D o our faces display your likeness, ever changing from glory to glory, = mirror=3D ed here, may our lives tell your story.&quot; &nbsp;Do you not like that = the=3D ology?<BR> <BR> Anyone having trouble with a worship and music committee that wants to = dumb=3D down the liturgy and the music should make them read Marva Dawn's book = &quo=3D t;Reaching Out without Dumbing Down.&quot; &nbsp;Good ammunition for = keeping=3D the barbarians from entering the gate. &nbsp;She likes &quot;Shine, = Jesus, =3D Shine,&quot; by the way.<BR> <BR> <BR> </TT>Randy Runyon<BR> Music Director<BR> Zion Lutheran Church<BR> Hamilton, Ohio<BR> runyonr@muohio.edu<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> on 6/18/02 7:39 AM, r at basset3@citlink.net wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D3D"2">--Now sing it 100 times over and over to = please =3D everyone -- then review your opinion. <BR> <FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial"><BR> --&quot;Please explain.&quot; &nbsp;Lee<BR> </FONT></FONT> <BR> <FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">On Sunday I, once again, had to = play &quo=3D t;Spirit Song&quot; for the umpteenth time this year. &nbsp;The Sunday = Schoo=3D l starts off each week with &quot;Shine.&quot; &nbsp;&quot;Awesome = God&quot;=3D is another overdone one. &nbsp;For hymn warm-up's someone always calls = out =3D &quot;Rugged Cross&quot; or &quot;Garden.&quot; &nbsp;Please I'm so tired = of=3D playing them over and over. &nbsp;With chimes, without chimes, soft, = loud. =3D &nbsp;Please, please choose something else and vary the selection. = &nbsp;&qu=3D ot;Shalom&quot; and &quot;Till We Meet&quot; -- don't people know anything = e=3D lse? &nbsp;I enjoy variety and they each have their place at the = appropriate=3D time -- but not every single Sunday of the year. &nbsp;I even knew a = rural =3D UMC congregation that closed every week with &quot;Edelweiss.&quot; = &nbsp;Wh=3D y, the sugar syrup was dripping from the vaulted ceiling!<BR> </FONT></FONT> <BR> <FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">My apologies for ranting. = &nbsp;How about=3D some of those good ole &quot;blood hymns&quot; that we don't sing = anymore? =3D &nbsp;The &quot;Christian soldiers&quot; have been remanded to their = barrack=3D s as well (tongue-in-cheek; yes, I'm aware of the PC theology). &nbsp;But = a =3D Bombarde on those pedals makes it a really fun march when you play the = refra=3D in/chorus (boom-boom, boom-boom alternating). &nbsp;Enough already.<BR> </FONT></FONT> <BR> <FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">Robert Clooney (Middletown, NY) = &nbsp;</F=3D ONT></FONT> <BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </BODY> </HTML>     --MS_Mac_OE_3107240300_142050_MIME_Part--    
(back) Subject: Re: Digital creativity From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 09:46:50 -0500   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --Boundary_(ID_RRrtuqViv9hPD4VsoehmwA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   On 6/18/02 6:39 AM, Rodney Clooney wrote:   > How about some of those good ole "blood hymns" that we don't sing = anymore=3D ? > The "Christian soldiers" have been remanded to their barracks as well > (tongue-in-cheek; yes, I'm aware of the PC theology).   After years of being unofficially banned, Canadian Anglicans were = surprised to find =3DB3Onward Christian Soldiers=3DB2 restored to them in our new = Common Praise hymnbook. It was going to be dropped but an uprising from our aboriginal population saved the day!   Russ   --Boundary_(ID_RRrtuqViv9hPD4VsoehmwA) Content-type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: Digital creativity</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D"Helvetica">On 6/18/02 6:39 AM, Rodney Clooney wrote:<BR> <BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">How about some of those good ole = &quot;blood hymns&quot; that we don't sing anymore? &nbsp;The = &quot;Christian soldiers&quot; have been remanded to their barracks as = well (tongue-in-cheek; yes, I'm aware of the PC theology). <BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Helvetica"><BR> After years of being unofficially banned, Canadian Anglicans were = surprised to find &#8220;Onward Christian Soldiers&#8221; restored to them = in our new Common Praise hymnbook. It was going to be dropped but an = uprising from our aboriginal population saved the day!<BR> <BR> Russ </FONT> </BODY> </HTML>     --Boundary_(ID_RRrtuqViv9hPD4VsoehmwA)--  
(back) Subject: Re: Shining on From: "Roger Brown" <rbrown7@bigpond.net.au> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 01:17:17 +1000   Randolph Runyon> There is no way I could convince you of its music value = unless we sat down and sang it together, and probably not even then. But = what fault can you possibly find with these words: Randolph Runyon> "Lord, the light of your love is shining, in the midst of = the darkness, shining; Jesus, light of the world, shine upon us, set us = free by the truth you now bring us.... As we gaze Randolph Runyon> on your kingly brightness, so our faces display your = likeness, ever changing from glory to glory, mirrored here, may our lives = tell your story." Do you not like that theology?   Point taken. My reaction shows how much the underlying theology is = obscured by inappropriate music.   -- Regards, Roger     Roger Brown rbrown7@bigpond.net.au http://rogerbrown.tripod.com      
(back) Subject: Re: Glenda's Sunday Dinner--off topic From: "David Carter" <david_n_carter@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:41:53 +0000   I thought I'd chime in on this, and maybe restore a little topicality.   1. Could someone describe to this Calif-born-and-raised organist what okra =   tastes like - I've never had the opportunity to try it.   2. A Hammond provided one of my nightmares when I was subbing for a friend =   one Sunday. The opening hymn started with a g (below middle c) in the = pedal. It was a majestic sort of hymn, so I had the organ cranked up pretty good (with a drawbar registration taken from my book of Hammond registrations). =   When I went to start the hymn, my foot hit the swell pedal, located right above the aforementioned g, thus cutting the volume almost all the way = down. I did this 3 times before finally getting the hymn going. AAARRRGGGGHHHHHH   David Carter In Oracle Scandal-ridden Sacramento   _________________________________________________________________ Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: RE: Glenda's Sunday Dinner--off topic From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:45:41 -0500   David:   I'd never had okra before moving to Oklahoma in 1998, but I've become a = fan. Lightly breaded and fried, it has a nice crunchy texture and a flavor akin to broccoli. It goes well with barbecue.   Peter In Williams Companies scandal-ridden OK (formerly of Davis)   -----Original Message----- From: David Carter [mailto:david_n_carter@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 10:42 AM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Glenda's Sunday Dinner--off topic     I thought I'd chime in on this, and maybe restore a little topicality.   1. Could someone describe to this Calif-born-and-raised organist what okra =   tastes like - I've never had the opportunity to try it.   2. A Hammond provided one of my nightmares when I was subbing for a friend =   one Sunday. The opening hymn started with a g (below middle c) in the = pedal.   It was a majestic sort of hymn, so I had the organ cranked up pretty good (with a drawbar registration taken from my book of Hammond registrations). =   When I went to start the hymn, my foot hit the swell pedal, located right above the aforementioned g, thus cutting the volume almost all the way = down.   I did this 3 times before finally getting the hymn going. AAARRRGGGGHHHHHH   David Carter In Oracle Scandal-ridden Sacramento   _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Shining on From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:41:31 -0400   on 6/18/02 11:17 AM, Roger Brown at rbrown7@bigpond.net.au wrote:   > > Point taken. My reaction shows how much the underlying theology is = obscured > by inappropriate music.   Thanks, Roger. By the way, I visited your web site. What a beautiful residence organ! and so well thought out. As it is primarily, as you = say, for playing Bach I would agree that "Shine, Jesus, Shine" might not work very well on it!     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: Digital creativity From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:42:58 EDT     --part1_195.870449f.2a40bd12_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 6/18/02 8:40:30 AM Atlantic Daylight Time, basset3@citlink.net writes: > --Now sing it 100 times over and over to please everyone -- then review = your > opinion. > There is a fairly large group of hymns that I could sing 100 times over = (in parts!!) without tiring. Among them are: Holy, Holy, Holy (Nicaea) When Morning Gilds the Skies (Laudes domini) Praise, my soul, the King of heaven (Lauda anima) Round the throne in glory seated (Rustington) O come, all ye faithful (Adeste fideles) Hark! the herald angels sing (Mendelssohn) Silent Night (Stille nacht) In the bleak midwinter (Cranham) Of the Father's Love begotten (Divinum mysterium) Christians Awake, salute the happy morn (Yorkshire)   .... and there are others (none of which have gittar chords!)   Bruce in the Muttestery   with the Baskerbeagles at <A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/brucon502">HowlingAcres</A> = http://members.tripod.com/brucon502 .... need extra money??? visit http://www.visionsuccess.com/BC2053 enjoy shopping?? visit www.freestoreclub.com/go/BDawg   --part1_195.870449f.2a40bd12_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 6/18/02 8:40:30 AM Atlantic = Daylight Time, basset3@citlink.net writes: <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">--Now sing it 100 = times over and over to please everyone -- then review your opinion. = </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">There is a fairly = large group of hymns that I could sing 100 times over (in parts!!) without = tiring.&nbsp; Among them are:<BR> Holy, Holy, Holy&nbsp; (Nicaea) <BR> When Morning Gilds the Skies (Laudes domini) <BR> Praise, my soul, the King of heaven (Lauda anima) <BR> Round the throne in glory seated&nbsp; (Rustington)<BR> O come, all ye faithful (Adeste fideles) <BR> Hark! the herald angels sing (Mendelssohn) <BR> Silent Night&nbsp; (Stille nacht)<BR> In the bleak midwinter (Cranham) <BR> Of the Father's Love begotten&nbsp; (Divinum mysterium)<BR> Christians Awake, salute the happy morn&nbsp; (Yorkshire)<BR> <BR> .... and there are others (none of which have gittar chords!)<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Bruce in the = Muttestery <BR> <BR> with the Baskerbeagles at&nbsp; <A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/brucon502">HowlingAcres</A>&nbsp;&nbsp; = http://members.tripod.com/brucon502<BR> ....&nbsp; need extra money???&nbsp;&nbsp; visit&nbsp;&nbsp; = http://www.visionsuccess.com/BC2053<BR> enjoy shopping??&nbsp;&nbsp; visit&nbsp; www.freestoreclub.com/go/BDawg = <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_195.870449f.2a40bd12_boundary--  
(back) Subject: St. Gervais, Paris (X-posted) From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:00:34 -0400   Dear Friends,   My wife and I were honored by our daughters for our 40th wedding anniversary with a trip in France, where we'd never been. The first = week was a river-boat trip up the Seine fron Honfleur to Paris, and our = daughters joined us in Paris for several days after we left the boat. I won't try = to "tell you all about it," but in a word, it was WONDERFUL!   Knowing very, very little French, I decided to go as a "dumb tourist," though we did get to several places which raised all sorts of questions to me aboout organs. Permit several questionshere about one place where we visited, with perhaps other questions about other places as we deal with more of the pictures we took:   We visited St. Gervais in Paris, where, if I have it right, one or another of the Couperins was organist. (Which Couperin?) We saw tantalizing info about the organ in the rear gballery being in some stage = of "original" or "restored" condition. Can anyone inform me of that = instrument? Even a stop-list? It was so tantalizing to stand there and look and not hear or play.   I saw a two-manual 19th-century instrument in a right "chapel" area, a "choir organ," but could not identify a builder's name, nor did I have sufficient access to do a proper job of writing down the stop list. = Anyone able to inform me about that organ?   In addition, we saw a very small, modern, and apparently yet-incomplete tracker in a left chapel, appearing to have nothing but wooden pipes thus far and with with lots of space to add more ranks. It seemed to be in an 18th-century concept, yet I thought I saw an "Effet d'Orage" mechanism = over the front end of the pedal board. (!!) That seemed so inconsistent with what appeared to be the prevailing concept of the organ otherwise. (Or am = I mis-understanding that practice?) The keyboard(s) was/were not visible, = and I did not attempt to take away the "box" sort of affair fitted over = it/them to see the stops or even how many manuals it had. Any word on that instrument?   I'd be grateful for whatever anyone can teach me about these = instruments in this place. Cordially,   Karl E. Moyer Lancastger PA  
(back) Subject: Notre Dame in Vernon, France From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:13:45 -0400   Dear Friends,   Another question resulting from our travels in France:   We briefly visited L'Eglise de Notre Dame at Vernon, fairly near = Monet's home area. (We learned that "vernon" means "a place of alder trees." Anyone able to elaborate on this?)   There was little to identyify the organ's origin. It has a central tower, two side towers, and flats between the central and side towers. I did see a note somewhere that it was restored in 1979 by Alfred and Daniel Kern of Strasbourg, a firm not familiar to me. It had a somewhat small = but handsome case.   Can anyone share info about the organ's origin, stoplist, etc.? Once again, being restricted to looking and not able to hear or play was a frustration.   Coincidentally, our visit to Monet-land was wonderful. I cherish my pictures of the water liles et al in his water garden, etc., etc. I walked up through the village to the village church and cemetery where he and family are buried. The church had a harmonium surrounded by a locked glass case and with a sign indicating an attempt to restore it. There was organ music playing quietly through a stereo system, though no one was there, save me. "Rouen Cathedral at 2 p.m." is one of my very favorite paintings.   Merci beaucoup.   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA