PipeChat Digest #2933 - Monday, June 24, 2002
OHS & AGO Convention Attendees
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Gathering at OHS Convention
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: small rooms, organs, and speakers-HELP!
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@VASSAR.EDU>
Re: OHS & AGO Convention Attendees
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
To My Friends and Acquaintances
  by "Mack" <mack02445@mindspring.com>
Website, OHS, und so weiter
  by "Jonathan B. Hall" <jonathan@jonathanbhall.com>
Re: Organist Recruiting
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
ATT:  Karl Moyer
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Philadelphia AGO List Gathering
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Re: Organist Recruiting
  by "Mark Koontz" <markkoontz@yahoo.com>
Re: ATT:  Karl Moyer
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Felix Hell at Bel Air - LA
  by "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Severance Schedule
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Re: Harmonic Mixers
  by "Bruce  Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>

(back) Subject: OHS & AGO Convention Attendees From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 07:32:16 -0500   Here is the list that I have collected of those people on both PipeChat and PIPORG-L who are going to be attending either and/or both the OHS and AGO Conventions.   David   ************************************************************** OHS Convention Jon C. Habermaas Malcolm Wechsler Bob Lind Peter Storandt Harry Martenas David Scribner Tim Bovard Sand Lawn TommyLee Whitlock Travis Evans Vic Ferrer Michael Barone Beau Surratt Tom Klug Judy A. Ollikkala Patrick J. Murphy Michael David Dan Schwandt Joseph M. McCabe Anthony Marchesano Jonathan B. Hall George Nelson Dave Clark Michael Fox Paul Emmons Rodney Myrvaagnes     AGO Convention Malcolm Wechsler Pat Maimone Owen Cannon Mark Quarmby - Sydney, Australia Darryl Miller Merry Foxworth David Brackley Bill Hesterman Vic Ferrer Penny Lorenz Michael Barone Monty Bennett Judy A. Ollikkala David Krohne Patrick J. Murphy Peter DuBois Paul Emmons Kevin Simons  
(back) Subject: Gathering at OHS Convention From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 07:43:09 -0500   After looking at the schedule for the OHS Convention it seems that next Thursday night will be a good time for a gathering of those folks from the lists. This will be following Will Headlee's recital when we all get back to the hotel. I would suggest that we all gather in one corner of the OHS Store and take it from there.   Since I won't be attending the AGO Convention I hope that someone will take charge and arrange a gathering there.   Looking forward to seeing old friends and meeting new ones next week. Travel safe!!   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: small rooms, organs, and speakers-HELP! From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@VASSAR.EDU> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 11:32:40 -0700   >John: > >The Carver was securely bolted to the floor (moorings in my original = post). > >Carver was very gracious and repaired Wayne's Sunfire under warranty. > >Peterson may use them if they like. If I remember correctly their 32 = flutes >are resultants not fundamental. (I like mine better, hehe) > >C. Joseph Nichols >Nichols & Simpson, Inc. >www.nicholsandsimpson.com   Hi joseph, nice to hear Carver makes good on their promise. in truth the ultimate use for our Carver will be only for the 16' stop. of course the organist can play resultants if he wants to.   But a full 32' would be alittle overkill on a II-11 Wurlitzer .   Best   JV  
(back) Subject: Re: OHS & AGO Convention Attendees From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 13:29:27 EDT     --part1_13.d5947c1.2a475f77_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I'll be at AGO too.   Neil Brown   --part1_13.d5947c1.2a475f77_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I'll be at AGO too.<BR> <BR> Neil Brown</FONT></HTML>   --part1_13.d5947c1.2a475f77_boundary--  
(back) Subject: To My Friends and Acquaintances From: "Mack" <mack02445@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 13:48:00 -0400   To all my friends and acquaintances going to the OHS Convention, I wish you all a great time and am sorry that circumstances do not allow me to be there with you all.   I will be anxious to read Malcolm's reports and anyone else's that will be there to. I understand David Scribner will be posting pictures on the web.   My best to you all and wishing you a productive and fulfilling Convention.   Cheers,   Mack <AKA> Dave McPeak  
(back) Subject: Website, OHS, und so weiter From: "Jonathan B. Hall" <jonathan@jonathanbhall.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 14:23:01 -0700 (PDT)   Hi, List--   First of all, I just wanted to wish everyone going to Chicago bon voyage...I hope to meet some more of you there. I'll be staying with friends on the northwest side, and this visit will be my first extended visit to Chicago (barring a drive thru once or twice) since I left that city in July 1997 to go to Indiana. (I lived there thirteen years, earned two degrees, and worked at seven religious institutions...)   In other news, I've given my website a bit of a facelift--I launched it six months ago, and that is already old and wrinkled by Web standards. I'm at http://www.JonathanBHall.com. I've added a silly bit I wrote for an April Fool once, "A New Organ!" --under "writings." At some point I'll be adding my travelogue, and later in the summer sound files.   Till then, looking forward to seeing some of you in Das Mittel-West--   Jon   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Organist Recruiting From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 18:09:10 EDT   NickGTV@webtv.net wrote:       > What's worked in your area??????   I'm organist in a small church. I've made it clear to all the children = that they can come up after church and check out the organ, and I now have one teen boy on the verge of taking lessons. There is also a trio of five = year old girls who look very solemn and tell me that they will be organists = when they grow up!   Victoria  
(back) Subject: ATT: Karl Moyer From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 18:25:41 EDT   kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu wrote:       > =A0 GO JAMIE MOYER AND THE SEATTLE > MARINERS!!! >=20 > =A0 =A0 Cordially, >=20 > =A0 =A0 Karl E. Moyer     And who might this be?   Victoria  
(back) Subject: Philadelphia AGO List Gathering From: <DudelK@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 18:29:24 EDT   Based on the preliminary schedule, it looks like Tuesday night would be = the best time to meet. There's a reception after the concert on Monday, = Wednesday and Friday are multiple locations, and PRC is doing his Wanamaker's = concert twice on Thursday.   How about meeting in the lobby/martini bar at the Marriott after Tuesday night's concert?   Unless there are objections or other suggestions, perhaps we can also try = to get this into the Tuesday onsite newsletter.   Unfortunately Dudel will be at a sleepaway kennel and unable to join the group, so I will be his designated martini drinker.   David Krohne in DC   By the way, if anyone is interested in a ride to or from Philadelphia from =   the Washington area, I have room for one passenger. Leaving downtown DC around noon on Monday and returning after the Saturday morning program (around noon).   And best wishes to all the gang who are heading for Chicago! I spent my college years there (a very long time ago) and I'm sure you're in for a = great time!  
(back) Subject: Re: Organist Recruiting From: "Mark Koontz" <markkoontz@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 19:48:46 -0400   Paul Soulek wrote:   <snip> > To echo two recent posts, I believe that organists need to be WELCOMING > others to the bench, not chasing them away. This past week we had > Vacation Bible School at my church. My dad was teaching, and went down > to the church to prepare during the day. When he was there, he heard > someone playing the organ. It ended up being a 9th-grader that was also > helping with VBS. My dad told me about this, and asked if we should take > the key to the organ. That got me thinking about this subject! .... etc. ... </snip>   I had a similar experience (and share similar thinking).   I was finishing a wedding postlude when my 8-year-old friend plopped = himself down next to me on the bench. "Did you know it was me?", he asked when I'd finished. "Of course!" Then, even though there were still a few = guests lingering, he turned to the organ and started playing the bass part to "Heart and Soul".   His father admonished him for this particular selection from the organ "literature", so he stopped and began playing "Ode to Joy". When that was complete, he returned to "Heart and Soul". I turned to his father and said, "Well, it IS 'Heart = and *SOUL*'!", whereupon I flipped on a 4' pedal stop and played the melody.   This kid is fascinated by the organ. He's a fine musician for his age, = and I'm sure his taste in his selections will mature.   Last November, Stan Krider posted about auctioning an hour's worth of open console time, complete with a chamber crawl. I saved the post in my = handy- dandy organ notebook because I thought it was such a great idea. While I haven't been able to do exactly what he did, I have tried to follow his example in my attitude about allowing any and all to try the thing out.   The organ and the organist need to be accessible. The enthusiasm is infectious. Thanks for your post.   Mark Koontz      
(back) Subject: Re: ATT: Karl Moyer From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 20:53:22 -0400   >> =A0 GO JAMIE MOYER AND THE SEATTLE >> MARINERS!!! >=20 > And who might this be? >=20 > Victoria   One of the starting ptichers for the Seattle Mariners. Apart from his terrific pitching skill, he's a neat guy. Hey, coming from Pennsylvania and with a surname like that, what'd'ya expect? :-)   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA    
(back) Subject: Felix Hell at Bel Air - LA From: "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 22:58:24 -0400   IF anyone went to the Felix Hell concert at Bel Air Presbyterian Church this afternoon, please post a report/Review.   Thanks       Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY  
(back) Subject: Severance Schedule From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:01:10 -0400   The organ series at Severance this year has been announced. Todd Wilson, the Curator of the Norton Memorial Organ will play 2 dates, Frederick Swann and Jane Parker-Smith the other 2. Yes, there are just 4 solo recitals scheduled, so seats will be at a premium again this year. If you wish to attend this year, I urge you to act ASAP. The ticket system will allow past subscribers the chance to renew their seats until July 5th, when the remainder become available to all. Tickets can be ordered on line at: [ www.clevelandorchestra.com ].   Mike      
(back) Subject: Re: Harmonic Mixers From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 07:21:22 +0100   Karl and friends,   This business of resultants and harmonics is all very simple really. The various pitches one finds in mixtures, defined usually as intervals (1, 8, 12, 15, 17, 19, 21, 22, 24, 26,29 etc), are (give or take some tuning differences)harmonics of the fundamental (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 12, = 16 etc) respectively. A very little thought will reveal that the resultants of these one with another (mainly the difference tones - most = sum tones will be inaudible) are these very same tones - the fundamental and harmonics.   There is really no difference in principle between a pedal 'resultant = bass' and a two rank 8 - 12 mixture, they reinforce the harmonics of the fundamental and, if the fundamental isn't there, they kid the listener = that it is. This applies in the treble range as well as the bass - see the = demos on my web-site - Misc page.   Sorry if I'm repeating myself - this topic seems to have spread over from the 'other' NG.   It's a great help in planning and understanding mixtures if you do a = little graph. Plot the key notes (the fundamental) horizontally against the pipe (harmonic) notes vertically. Plot, in feint lines, the harmonics, 1, 2 , 3 etc - they will all be straight lines. If you now look at one or two = typical mixture specifications (eg the ones in Audsley pp 442 et seq), and plot = the ranges of the mixture ranks in different colours it will soon make sense. = I planned the mixtures in my English Organ sound font this way. Also bear in mind the difference in sound between the odd-numbered harmonics (reedy), = and the even (bright, 'open').   I think I've rambled on enough.   Regards to all,   Bruce Miles   mail to:- bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk website:- http://www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> To: "piporg-l" <piporg-l@listserv.albany.edu>; "pipechat" <pipechat@pipechat.org>; <org@marauder.millersville.edu> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 11:15 PM Subject: Re: Harmonic Mixers     > Dear Friendly Listers, > > >> "Why do we refers to "harmonic mixtures" as such? Since they are intended to > reinforce the upper register -- and thus the melodic line -- wouldn't it > make more sense to call them "melodic mixtures?" " > > > I have no idea. But we don't. And I am not sure that they quite do > > that very well, either. > > Ken, who should know -- :-) -- and gives a good teacher's = answer. > > I've appreciated various persons' explanations of such mixture inforcing > the overtones of the (likely) 8' pitch, though it's interesting to see that > most of them start at the 15th in pitch. What's more, by the time on gets > to the upper octave, NO ONE is building mixtures with the 17, 19, 21 or = 22 > pitches in the mixture! > > So let's try again, perhaps in several regards: > > 1. Can someone with "expert knowledge" print out sample compositions of > such mixtures to let us see how they are, in fact designed? (I'd = assume > that in the top octave, we'd be seeing chiefly 1 - 8 - 12 - 15 pitches.) > > 2. What's been said about reinforcing overtones of the (perhaps = usually) 8' > line is often, if not usually, true of mixtures not labeled "Harmonic > mixtures;" yet, at least sometimes they are intended to help the "inner > voices" of the musical texture, though with "breaks." So they start higher > in pitch at the bottom of the keyboard and "break back," something "harmonic > mixtures" are claimed do not do. Yet, as I've suggested above, if "Harmonic > mixtures" do include 17 - 19 - 21 - 22, they may begin with those = pitches > at the low end of the keyboard, but they necessarily *must* ALSO do = break > back. Yet, at another point, someone made a comment about "harmonic > mixtures" as starting with only a few ranks --at what pitches? --and adding > more LOW PITCHS as the mixture ascends through the campass. > > How do we understand all this? > > Perhaps one final question here: we do see mixtures such as II - IV > Rks. Can we usually assume that these are NOT "harmonic mixtures" but > simply mixtures that start high in pitches, break back in the usual fashion > but also add more pipes or pitches at the high end of the campass? > > A further mixture lecture would be nice. (Well, at least *I* think so.)