PipeChat Digest #2941 - Sunday, June 30, 2002
 
RE: Small is beautiful
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
Zimbelstern Question
  by <Viquetor@aol.com>
Re: Zimbelstern Question
  by <DrB88@aol.com>
Re: Zimbelstern Question
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Zimbelstern Question
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
RE: Zimbelstern Question
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
Campanalogy
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
With apologies to Victor Hugo
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
Zimbelstern -- Tons of Ideas!
  by <Viquetor@aol.com>
Re: Zimbelstern Question
  by <Wurlibird1@aol.com>
Re: Zimbelstern -- Tons of Ideas!
  by <DrB88@aol.com>
RE: Zimbelstern Question
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Small is beautiful From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:45:06 +0100   Hello,     "Steve Gilson" <sgilson@sympatico.ca>   Wrote:-   As for pedal technique, well, like Colin, I'm self taught also, but the "knees together" method is sometimes the only way I can get my legs in = there without taking my knee caps off.   One question: Is it just me, or do the rest of you have to hang on to = the bench for dear life when playing two footed pedal lines without manuals?   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D   When you're my size, only purpose built hand holds in the casework = suffice!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK    
(back) Subject: Zimbelstern Question From: <Viquetor@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 16:24:09 EDT     --part1_7e.29bdb26c.2a4f7169_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear List Members,   Because I've been a member of the list for such a short time, I don't know = if this topic has been covered extensively or not. But, I thought I'd ask anyway.   For those of you who have (or have had) a Zimbelstern (or Cymbalstern), on =   what occasions have you enjoyed using it? We have a beautiful sounding zimbelstern on our Heissler (tracker) at Emmanuel Episcopal in Orlando. I like to use it during the singing of the Gloria at midnight mass and on Christmas Day. I've also used it during the refrain of Angels we have = heard on high. Are there other appropriate times? Has anyone ever used it = during the singing of (other) hymns or an anthem? I'd like to use it a little = more frequently, but not too often. Any suggestions? If this topic has already =   been hashed to death, then I'd appreciate a summary. (Off topic -- I'm trying to locate a copy of Peace I leave with you, by = Knut Nystedt. Can someone direct me to a list where I might find it. I think = it's out of print, but I'm ready to pay copyright fee/royalty if allowed to = copy it.)   Thanks, Victor       --part1_7e.29bdb26c.2a4f7169_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Dear List Members,<BR> <BR> Because I've been a member of the list for such a short time, I don't know = if this topic has been covered extensively or not. But, I thought I'd ask = anyway. <BR> <BR> For those of you who have (or have had) a Zimbelstern (or Cymbalstern), on = what occasions have you enjoyed using it? We have a beautiful sounding = zimbelstern on our Heissler (tracker) at Emmanuel Episcopal in Orlando. I = like to use it during the singing of the Gloria at midnight mass and on = Christmas Day. I've also used it during the refrain of Angels we have = heard on high. Are there other appropriate times?&nbsp; Has anyone ever = used it during the singing of (other) hymns or an anthem?&nbsp; I'd like = to use it a little more frequently, but not too often. Any = suggestions?&nbsp; If this topic has already been hashed to death, then = I'd appreciate a summary. <BR> (Off topic -- I'm trying to locate a copy of Peace I leave with you, by = Knut Nystedt. Can someone direct me to a list where I might find it. I = think it's out of print, but I'm ready to pay copyright fee/royalty if = allowed to copy it.)<BR> <BR> Thanks,<BR> Victor<BR> <P ALIGN=3DCENTER><BR> <P ALIGN=3DLEFT><BR> </P></P></FONT></HTML> --part1_7e.29bdb26c.2a4f7169_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Zimbelstern Question From: <DrB88@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:54:22 EDT     --part1_f7.1d6a23ee.2a4f868e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       For those of you who have (or have had) a Zimbelstern (or Cymbalstern), on =   what occasions have you enjoyed using it? We have a beautiful sounding zimbelstern on our Heissler (tracker) at Emmanuel Episcopal in Orlando. I like to use it during the singing of the Gloria at midnight mass and on Christmas Day. I've also used it during the refrain of Angels we have = heard on high. Are there other appropriate times? Has anyone ever used it = during the singing of (other) hymns or an anthem?   I have heard it used during the singing of the Sanctus (congregational) in =   the Lutheran Communion Liturgy, on festival days. I have also used it on certain early compositions that are light and airy or scherzo-like.   In our church this past Pentecost, the Collect of the Day was read in = various languages, with readers overlapping to provide the "commotion" of the = various tongues in the first Pentecost experience. During Communion we used the Taize "Veni, Sancte Spiritu", and random handbells and Zimbelstern = provided the "wind" behind the music. It was amazingly effective.   I hope others have ideas to share.   David     --part1_f7.1d6a23ee.2a4f868e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> For those of you who have (or have had) a Zimbelstern (or Cymbalstern), on = what occasions have you enjoyed using it? We have a beautiful sounding = zimbelstern on our Heissler (tracker) at Emmanuel Episcopal in Orlando. I = like to use it during the singing of the Gloria at midnight mass and on = Christmas Day. I've also used it during the refrain of Angels we have = heard on high. Are there other appropriate times?&nbsp; Has anyone ever = used it during the singing of (other) hymns or an anthem? </FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I have heard it = used during the singing of the Sanctus (congregational) in the Lutheran = Communion Liturgy, on festival days.&nbsp; I have also used it on certain = early compositions that are light and airy or scherzo-like.&nbsp; <BR> <BR> In our church this past Pentecost, the Collect of the Day was read in = various languages, with readers overlapping to provide the "commotion" of = the various tongues in the first Pentecost experience.&nbsp; During = Communion we used the Taize "Veni, Sancte Spiritu", and random handbells = and Zimbelstern provided the "wind" behind the music.&nbsp; It was = amazingly effective.<BR> <BR> I hope others have ideas to share.<BR> <BR> David<BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_f7.1d6a23ee.2a4f868e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Zimbelstern Question From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:09:42 -0400   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --B_3108218982_12550683 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit   On 6/29/02 5:54 PM, "DrB88@aol.com" <DrB88@aol.com> wrote:     > > For those of you who have (or have had) a Zimbelstern (or Cymbalstern), = on > what occasions have you enjoyed using it? We have a beautiful sounding > zimbelstern on our Heissler (tracker) at Emmanuel Episcopal in Orlando. = I like > to use it during the singing of the Gloria at midnight mass and on = Christmas > Day. I've also used it during the refrain of Angels we have heard on = high. Are > there other appropriate times? Has anyone ever used it during the = singing of > (other) hymns or an anthem? > > > I have heard it used during the singing of the Sanctus (congregational) = in the > Lutheran Communion Liturgy, on festival days. I have also used it on = certain > early compositions that are light and airy or scherzo-like. > > In our church this past Pentecost, the Collect of the Day was read in = various > languages, with readers overlapping to provide the "commotion" of the = various > tongues in the first Pentecost experience. During Communion we used the = Taize > "Veni, Sancte Spiritu", and random handbells and Zimbelstern provided = the > "wind" behind the music. It was amazingly effective. > > I hope others have ideas to share. > > David > > >     --B_3108218982_12550683 Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: Zimbelstern Question</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D3D"ACaslon Italic">On 6/29/02 5:54 PM, = &quot;DrB88@aol.com&quot; &=3D lt;DrB88@aol.com&gt; wrote:<BR> <BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"ACaslon Italic"><FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><BR> <BR> For those of you who have (or have had) a Zimbelstern (or Cymbalstern), on = =3D what occasions have you enjoyed using it? We have a beautiful sounding = zimbe=3D lstern on our Heissler (tracker) at Emmanuel Episcopal in Orlando. I like = to=3D use it during the singing of the Gloria at midnight mass and on Christmas = D=3D ay. I've also used it during the refrain of Angels we have heard on high. = Ar=3D e there other appropriate times? &nbsp;Has anyone ever used it during the = si=3D nging of (other) hymns or an anthem? <BR> </FONT><BR> <BR> <FONT SIZE=3D3D"2">I have heard it used during the singing of the Sanctus = (cong=3D regational) in the Lutheran Communion Liturgy, on festival days. &nbsp;I = hav=3D e also used it on certain early compositions that are light and airy or = sche=3D rzo-like. &nbsp;<BR> <BR> In our church this past Pentecost, the Collect of the Day was read in = vario=3D us languages, with readers overlapping to provide the = &quot;commotion&quot; =3D of the various tongues in the first Pentecost experience. &nbsp;During = Commu=3D nion we used the Taize &quot;Veni, Sancte Spiritu&quot;, and random = handbell=3D s and Zimbelstern provided the &quot;wind&quot; behind the music. &nbsp;It = w=3D as amazingly effective.<BR> <BR> I hope others have ideas to share.<BR> <BR> David<BR> <BR> </FONT><BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"ACaslon Italic"><BR> </FONT> </BODY> </HTML>     --B_3108218982_12550683--    
(back) Subject: Re: Zimbelstern Question From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:21:23 -0400   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --B_3108219684_12592886 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   On 6/29/02 5:54 PM, "DrB88@aol.com" <DrB88@aol.com> wrote: For those of you who have (or have had) a Zimbelstern (or Cymbalstern), on what occasions have you enjoyed using it? We have a beautiful sounding zimbelstern on our Heissler (tracker) at Emmanuel Episcopal in Orlando. I like to use it during the singing of the Gloria at midnight mass and on Christmas Day. I've also used it during the refrain of Angels we have = heard on high. Are there other appropriate times? Has anyone ever used it = during the singing of (other) hymns or an anthem?   Our organists definitely gives it a kick one beat before (and during) the Sanctus. And then, as I recall, at least two or three times, briefly, at the elevation(s). On all Sundays.   I have heard it used during the singing of the Sanctus (congregational) in the Lutheran Communion Liturgy, on festival days. I have also used it on certain early compositions that are light and airy or scherzo-like.   In our church this past Pentecost, the Collect of the Day was read in various languages, with readers overlapping to provide the "commotion" of the various tongues in the first Pentecost experience. During Communion = we used the Taize "Veni, Sancte Spiritu", and random handbells and = Zimbelstern provided the "wind" behind the music. It was amazingly effective.   I hope others have ideas to share.   I appreciate the idea YOU gave.   At Christmas Eve and at the Easter Vigil, ring everything you=3DB9ve got. Invite the folks to bring whatever they have at home. And go for it.   Best,   Alan Freed, Saint Luke=3DB9s ELCA, Manhattan   --B_3108219684_12592886 Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: Zimbelstern Question</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D3D"ACaslon Bold">On 6/29/02 5:54 PM, = &quot;DrB88@aol.com&quot; &lt=3D ;DrB88@aol.com&gt; wrote:<BR> For those of you who have (or have had) a Zimbelstern (or Cymbalstern), on = =3D what occasions have you enjoyed using it? We have a beautiful sounding = zimbe=3D lstern on our Heissler (tracker) at Emmanuel Episcopal in Orlando. I like = to=3D use it during the singing of the Gloria at midnight mass and on Christmas = D=3D ay. I've also used it during the refrain of Angels we have heard on high. = Ar=3D e there other appropriate times? &nbsp;Has anyone ever used it during the = si=3D nging of (other) hymns or an anthem? <BR> <BR> <I>Our organists definitely gives it a kick one beat before (and during) = th=3D e Sanctus. &nbsp;And then, as I recall, at least two or three times, = briefly=3D , at the elevation(s). &nbsp;&nbsp;On all Sundays.<BR> <BR> </I>I have heard it used during the singing of the Sanctus = (congregational)=3D in the Lutheran Communion Liturgy, on festival days. &nbsp;I have also = used=3D it on certain early compositions that are light and airy or scherzo-like. = <=3D BR> <BR> In our church this past Pentecost, the Collect of the Day was read in = vario=3D us languages, with readers overlapping to provide the = &quot;commotion&quot; =3D of the various tongues in the first Pentecost experience. &nbsp;During = Commu=3D nion we used the Taize &quot;Veni, Sancte Spiritu&quot;, and random = handbell=3D s and Zimbelstern provided the &quot;wind&quot; behind the music. &nbsp;It = w=3D as amazingly effective.<BR> <BR> I hope others have ideas to share.<BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"ACaslon Bold"><BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"ACaslon Bold"><I>I appreciate the idea = YOU =3D gave.<BR> <BR> At Christmas Eve and at the Easter Vigil, ring everything you&#8217;ve = got.=3D &nbsp;Invite the folks to bring whatever they have at home. &nbsp;And go = fo=3D r it.<BR> <BR> </I>Best,<BR> <BR> Alan Freed, Saint Luke&#8217;s ELCA, Manhattan</FONT> </BODY> </HTML>     --B_3108219684_12592886--    
(back) Subject: RE: Zimbelstern Question From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:50:00 +0100   Hello,   Well....almost a funny story here!   A local church had a Cymbelstern fitted after a re-build.....no-one = really knew why, but the Organist liked it.   Eager to show off the re-built organ, the organist of the church invited = the members of the local organ society to give a composite recital, with = about 8 performers contributing.   First we had Xmas Bach "In Dulci Jubilo" ...with a tinkling ending   Then we had a Daquin "Noel" (mid-Summer)...with a tinkling ending   I played the Murrill "Carillon".....so I had an excuse for a tinkling = ending=20   Then came "Les cloches" (forget who that is by)....but it had a suitably = tinkling ending   Then came a fine performance of the "Carillon de Westminster" given by = the organist of the church with.....you guessed...a tinkling ending   Then came a nice version of "Berceuse"(Vierne)...WITHOUT A SINGLE = TINKLE!   Finally, a splendid performance of the Bruhns (big) E minor P & F....not = a tinkle to be heard.   Afterwards, everyone giggled nervously about the overuse of the = Cymbelstern.   I congratulated the last player for a very "straight" performance of the = Bruhns, but questioned his use of the Tuba at the end.   "Sorry about that", he replied, "I got the wrong piston....I was trying = to find the Cymbelstern!!!!!!"     Give a boy a new toy!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK         -----Original Message----- From: "pipechat@pipechat.org" <pipechat@pipechat.org> on behalf of "DrB88@aol.com" <DrB88@aol.com>=20 Sent: 29 June 2002 21:54=20 To: "pipechat@pipechat.org" <pipechat@pipechat.org>=20 Subject: Re: Zimbelstern Question=20       For those of you who have (or have had) a Zimbelstern (or Cymbalstern), on what occasions have you enjoyed using it? We have a beautiful sounding zimbelstern on our Heissler (tracker) at Emmanuel Episcopal in Orlando. I like to use it during the singing of the Gloria at midnight mass and on Christmas Day. I've also used it during the refrain of Angels we have heard on high. Are there other appropriate times? Has anyone ever used it during the singing of (other) hymns or an anthem?=20     I have heard it used during the singing of the Sanctus (congregational) in the Lutheran Communion Liturgy, on festival days. I have also used it on certain early compositions that are light and airy or scherzo-like. =20   In our church this past Pentecost, the Collect of the Day was read in various languages, with readers overlapping to provide the "commotion" of the various tongues in the first Pentecost experience. During Communion we used the Taize "Veni, Sancte Spiritu", and random handbells and Zimbelstern provided the "wind" behind the music. It was amazingly effective.   I hope others have ideas to share.   David      
(back) Subject: Campanalogy From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:55:28 +0100   Hello,   I just had a second thought......did they ever have Cymbelsterns of = Theatre Organs?   I think I want a church organ with Sleigh Bells!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK        
(back) Subject: With apologies to Victor Hugo From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 02:20:19 +0100   Me again,   It's the bells! =20   The church where I play has two unfortunate bells....one which is out of = tune with the organ, and the other (the Sanctuary Bell) which sounds as = if it is made of old Aluminum cans. It makes playing difficult and, to = avoid unfortunate clashes, I tend to improvise on a single 8ft Flute = immediately before the Mass.......with a sort of Bell Celeste clanging = away.   However, in some churches, the organ and bells are in harmony.   I once improvised WITH the bells at a well known major parish church in = the North of England......10 splendid bells of superior quality, exactly = in tune with an equally aristocratic Harrison organ. The organist of the = church had showed me a way of getting synthetic bell tone from a = Harrison Doppel Flute, using the related harmonics an octave higher on = the keyboard.   As I enjoy improvising, I listened to the "change ringing" going on in = the church tower and improvised around it.....sometimes imitating, = sometimes in canon and sometimes adding a contrapuntal second part in = "bell harmony".   The effect was quite magical.....something I could never repeat or write = down.   I also recall with enormous pleasure that delightful recording done by = E.Power-Biggs on the Busch Museum Flentrop, where all sorts of = percussion instruments were combined with organ.......a unique and = beautiful recording. I wonder if anyone has ever done anything similar?   In recalling all this, I wonder what equally delightful effects are = available to us with the excellent percussion and bell effects available = on modern digital synthesisers.....here is a musical opportunity worthy = of investigation.   CM swings off into the kitchen crying "Esmerelda!"   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK                
(back) Subject: Zimbelstern -- Tons of Ideas! From: <Viquetor@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:21:33 EDT     --part1_14b.101e12f7.2a4fb71d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear List, I just discovered this delightful site with tons of zimbelstern ideas! Good reading, all the way to the end.   http://www.zimbelstern.com/zMusic.htm   Victor   --part1_14b.101e12f7.2a4fb71d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Dear List,<BR> I just discovered this delightful site with tons of zimbelstern ideas!<BR> Good reading, all the way to the end.<BR> <BR> http://www.zimbelstern.com/zMusic.htm<BR> <BR> Victor</FONT></HTML>   --part1_14b.101e12f7.2a4fb71d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Zimbelstern Question From: <Wurlibird1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:54:23 EDT   Colin Mitchel writes:     >First we had Xmas Bach "In Dulci Jubilo" ...with a tinkling ending   >Then we had a Daquin "Noel" (mid-Summer)...with a tinkling ending   >I played the Murrill "Carillon".....so I had an excuse for a tinkling = ending <<   [snip]   Colin, at my age "tinkling" is advisable before beginning, else I may not make it to the ending. :))   But yours is a delightful story and thanks for sharing it with us.   Best wishes, Jim Pitts  
(back) Subject: Re: Zimbelstern -- Tons of Ideas! From: <DrB88@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:45:35 EDT     --part1_3c.207ac627.2a4fcacf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear all... After sharing Colin's funny story with an off-list friend of mine, he returned the following.... I thought you might enjoy it!!   David ...in Chicago ************************ Aha! What if the other organists had made the same error as the Bruhns player and missed the Cymbelstern piston!! You'd have had.....   Bach, IN DULCI TUBALO Daquin, NOEL SUR LA TUBA Murrill, CARRILL-ON THE POSAUNE LES CLOCHES ET ANCHES CORNOPEAN DE WESTMINSTER Vierne, BERCEUSE FONDUE (Fonds doux with red wine) Bruhns, PRELUDE AND FUGUE WITH CYMBLESTERN STRETTI   --part1_3c.207ac627.2a4fcacf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Dear all...<BR> After sharing Colin's funny story with an off-list friend of mine, he = returned the following.... I thought you might enjoy it!!<BR> <BR> David ...in Chicago<BR> ************************<BR> Aha!&nbsp; What if the other organists had made the same error as the = Bruhns player and missed the Cymbelstern piston!!&nbsp; You'd have = had.....<BR> <BR> Bach, IN DULCI TUBALO<BR> Daquin, NOEL SUR LA TUBA<BR> Murrill, CARRILL-ON THE POSAUNE<BR> LES CLOCHES ET ANCHES<BR> CORNOPEAN DE WESTMINSTER<BR> Vierne, BERCEUSE FONDUE (Fonds doux with red wine)<BR> Bruhns, PRELUDE AND FUGUE WITH CYMBLESTERN STRETTI <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_3c.207ac627.2a4fcacf_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: Zimbelstern Question From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:40:02 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0014_01C21FC6.4A2639C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit     | For those of you who have (or have had) a Zimbelstern (or = Cymbalstern), on what occasions have you enjoyed using it?   I find it useful on Trinitarian verses,. but don't really use it too much = on the Sanctus because I prefer a fortissimmo sound, and it gets lost. But, the kids like watching the star spin.   I also find useful ways to sort of give an imagery addition to some = verses. For example, verse two of "How Great Thou Art", where it speaks of rivers and birds, I take the mixtures off and add the zimbelstern...sort of gives = a nice flowing sort of image. I also use it on two particular pieces (which = I can recall right offhand here): Bach's "Hail Thou Brightest Day of Days", which is in the "Orgelbuchlein", and Charles Ore's "With High Delight". I find it adds to both of those pieces.   Curious thing I confirmed last week when we installed our 6 bass 16' = pipes: The zimbelstern is NOT connected to the star which is seen rotating when activated. Seems the bells are a separate unit! I think a fun joke would be to unplug the zimbelstern and not the star!! LOL   Jeff   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0014_01C21FC6.4A2639C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dus-ascii"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY><FONT lang=3D3D0 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"><FONT = color=3D3D#0000ff></FONT> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D030153504-30062002><FONT=3D20 color=3D3D#0000ff>&nbsp;| &nbsp;</FONT></SPAN>For those of you who have = =3D (or have=3D20 had) a Zimbelstern (or Cymbalstern), on what occasions have you enjoyed = =3D using=3D20 it?&nbsp;<SPAN class=3D3D030153504-30062002><FONT=3D20 color=3D3D#0000ff>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D030153504-30062002></SPAN></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D030153504-30062002><FONT=3D20 color=3D3D#0000ff>I find it useful on&nbsp;Trinitarian verses,. but don't = =3D really use=3D20 it too much on the Sanctus because I prefer a fortissimmo sound, and it = =3D gets=3D20 lost.&nbsp; But, the kids like watching the star=3D20 spin.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D030153504-30062002></SPAN></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D030153504-30062002>&nbsp;<FONT=3D20 color=3D3D#0000ff>I also find useful ways to sort of give an imagery =3D addition to=3D20 some verses.&nbsp; For example, verse two of "How Great Thou Art", where = =3D it=3D20 speaks of rivers and birds, I take the mixtures off and add the=3D20 zimbelstern...sort of gives a nice flowing sort of image.&nbsp; I also =3D use it on=3D20 two particular pieces (which I can recall right offhand here):&nbsp; =3D Bach's=3D20 "Hail Thou Brightest Day of Days", which is in the "Orgelbuchlein", and = =3D Charles=3D20 Ore's "With High Delight".&nbsp; I find it adds to both of those =3D pieces.&nbsp;=3D20 </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D030153504-30062002></SPAN></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D030153504-30062002>Curious thing I confirmed last week when we = =3D installed=3D20 our 6 bass 16' pipes:&nbsp; The zimbelstern is NOT connected to the star = =3D which=3D20 is seen rotating when activated.&nbsp; Seems the bells are a separate=3D20 unit!&nbsp; I think a fun joke would be to unplug the zimbelstern and =3D not the=3D20 star!! LOL</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D030153504-30062002></SPAN></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D030153504-30062002>Jeff</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV></FONT></BODY><= =3D /HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0014_01C21FC6.4A2639C0--