PipeChat Digest #2757 - Saturday, March 16, 2002
 
Re: Ken Griffin
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com>
the worst organs I ever played
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Ken Griffin
  by "edward a mc callum" <edmack2@juno.com>
Re: Help!
  by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org>
High  church trends are springing up all over . . .
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: An Off-Topic Choral Concert Posting
  by "Alan Freed" <afreed3036@yahoo.com>
Re: High  church trends are springing up all over . . .
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: High  church trends are springing up all over . . .
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
worst organ
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Ken Griffin
  by <Wurlibird1@aol.com>
Re: High  church trends are springing up all over . . .
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com>
The French Connection
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
engaging and disengaging...
  by <MFoxy9795@aol.com>
Terminology
  by "David Carter" <david_n_carter@hotmail.com>
Re: The French Connection
  by "Pat Maimone" <patmai@juno.com>
Re: engaging and disengaging...
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Ken Griffin From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 18:41:11 -0500   Yup, Hammond, I had a 10" LP (cheap) as a kid , long gone.. It was a Christmas LP and sounded great on my little RCA Victrola, My early exposure to organ music was John Duffy at "The Mighty Columbia Square WurliTzer". Leon Berry followed, along with George Wright. E.P Biggs, followed, along with Virgil Fox.   Visiting a cousin a few months ago, I found some LPs in his barn. Among them was A Royale LP marked down to 39c of Ken Griffin. It's a great album! Ken Griffin performed great music on the Hammond.   Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Ohmer" <knopfregal@yahoo.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 6:21 PM Subject: Ken Griffin     > > --- Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@attbi.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Stan > > (listening to my treasured Ken Griffin > > recordings).... :) > > > > ooh oooo, oooh.......In an 18th Century Drawing > Room!!!!!!......oh, yeah, um, "You Can't be True, > Dear!" ....... Haven't found anything about him > on the web yet, though. My first "by ear" pieces > came from his recordings.... then I went over to > Biggsie and the BR organ.... but I'll never > forget Griffin.... Hammond, right? > > SteveOhmer > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage > http://sports.yahoo.com/ > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: the worst organs I ever played From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 16:12:33 -0800   1. St. Paul's Episcopal Church, Winter Haven FL - part of the Swell, Great and Pedal of a 1920s 4-manual Austin, bought second-hand from West Virginia, plus a Choir organ from a Wurlitzer theatre organ (!), all cobbled together ... no pistons, everything in one enormous swell box. Half the stops didn't work, and the air-leaks were so loud that the signal for the choir to stand was opening the swell box (!). Replaced by a Skinner that burned with the church; now a 3m Harrison in the new church.   2. Christ Episcopal Church (Oak Lawn), Dallas TX - a moribund little 2m Pilcher that had the alarming habit of chattering like a machine-gun (stop action? key action? who knows?) just before it would give up the ghost, usually in the middle of High Mass. Replaced by a 2m Janke tracker. The church has some GORGEOUS Tiffany glass.   3. Village Presbyterian Church, NYC - a dying electrocuted 2m Odell (?). The only way to control the stops was the crescendo pedal (!), or reaching into the top of the console and crossing wires (!!).   4. Episcopal Church, Dallas TX (forget the name ... out in the suburbs somewhere) - bits and pieces of Austin ... you had to cross wires to start the BLOWER on THAT one ... amazing that it didn't burn the church down.   5. First Presbyterian Church, Bartow, FL - 2m Hope-Jones CHURCH organ (!). The thing WORKED perfectly; I have NO idea where they GOT it; but it was the UGLIEST-sounding pipe organ I've ever played, bar none ... very coarse tone. Replaced by a Schantz, I think.   6. Grace Episcopal Church, Cincinnati, OH - 3m Estey from the 1920s. Coarse tone; you would get an electrical SHOCK when you touched things if your hands were sweaty. Replaced by a second-hand Moller, I think.   7. St. John's Episcopal Church, Tallahassee, FL - 2m Estey ... same story. Replaced by a 3m Schantz, which is now in the Chapel of the Resurrection (Episcopal) on the campus of Florida State University; new Fisk due ???   Not the WORST, but certainly the most UNIQUE - St. James Episcopal (now Anglican Catholic) Church on 55th Street in Cleveland. Put together by Walter Holtkamp Sr. in the 1930s (?) for Cornelia Cushing ("Aunta") Peterson, who was the wife of the rector and an organ student of Walter Blodgett ... parts of a Johnson, a Kimball, a Wurlitzer (!), and a few new stops by Holtkamp ... the approximate disposition (it's been forty years):   SWELL   8' Flute 8' String 4' Principal ? 2' Octave? Mounted Cornet IV, on its own little slider chest on the back wall of the Swell chamber 8' Fagott   GREAT   16' Quintadena 8' Principal 8' Flute 5 1/3 Quint (later changed to a 4' octave)   POSITIV - the first modern detached and exposed positiv   8' Quintadena - actually a Gedeckt, sorta 4' Prestant Cymbale IV - a Cymbale mixture in the bass, and a Cornet (!) in the treble   PEDAL   16' Sub Bass 16' Quintadena (gt) 8' Octave 4' Choral Bass 16' Dulzian   Still chugging away, with some releathering and a couple of new windchests.   Cheers,   Bud                                
(back) Subject: Re: Ken Griffin From: "edward a mc callum" <edmack2@juno.com> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 19:07:39 -0500   i have afew of ken griffins' lp's in storage at the moment--but i'm almost sure that a couple of them were done on a wurlitzer (REED ORGAN) i'll have to look in the VAULT to be sure though. anyone have any more info on this? i also have the duffy album as well plus many others.   ed mc callum--melbourne florida   On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 18:41:11 -0500 "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com> writes: > Yup, Hammond, I had a 10" LP (cheap) as a kid , long gone.. > It was a Christmas LP and sounded great on my little RCA Victrola, > My early exposure to organ music was John Duffy at "The Mighty > Columbia Square WurliTzer". > Leon Berry followed, along with George Wright. E.P Biggs, followed, > along with Virgil Fox. > > Visiting a cousin a few months ago, I found some LPs in his barn. > Among them was A Royale LP marked down to 39c of Ken Griffin. > It's a great album! Ken Griffin performed great music on the > Hammond. > > Stan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Ohmer" <knopfregal@yahoo.com> > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 6:21 PM > Subject: Ken Griffin > > > > > > --- Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@attbi.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Stan > > > (listening to my treasured Ken Griffin > > > recordings).... :) > > > > > > > ooh oooo, oooh.......In an 18th Century Drawing > > Room!!!!!!......oh, yeah, um, "You Can't be True, > > Dear!" ....... Haven't found anything about him > > on the web yet, though. My first "by ear" pieces > > came from his recordings.... then I went over to > > Biggsie and the BR organ.... but I'll never > > forget Griffin.... Hammond, right? > > > > SteveOhmer > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage > > http://sports.yahoo.com/ > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Help! From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 19:22:08 -0600   tibia@theatreorgans.com   At 12:03 PM 3/16/02 -0500, you wrote: >I need Bob Bass' email address. AKA Tibia > >TIA > >Mack > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: High church trends are springing up all over . . . From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 19:36:15 -0600   My husband and I are starting a church, the Reformed Church of the Redeemed Harley Hogs. The creed and doctrines will conform closely to the Articles of Religion of 1801. The services will consist of high-church paraphernalia, complete with vestments and only pipe organ music (except on Rogation Days, when Debussy, Chopin and Beethoven will be allowed on the piano). The vestments will of course be altered slightly with some minor leather detailing, and bishops will wear "do-rags" and tool belts in lieu of mitres and croziers. At least one Bach organ piece will be required at each service. The homilist/preacher will be expected to preach fundamentalist hell, fire and damnation sermons of no longer than ten minutes in duration, with sufficient pauses for members to shout "hallelujah" or "good grief" as indicated. Instead of sherry after church, we will swill beer laced with whiskey (no sherry or scotch will be allowed on premises). At funerals and weddings we will play "You can't always get what you want" of Rolling Stones' fame, of course in a tasteful organ arrangement.   Only the finest pipe organs will be built to match the specifications of our architecturally refined and acoustically superior sanctuaries, which will match the finest cathedrals of the world for beauty - the only difference is that there will be space to park the bikes inside the back of the church, and the main and side aisles will be wider so that the members can ride their bikes during the Stations of the Cross and the annual Blessing of the Bikes. No motorcycle ignitions will be idling or running during any time that the organ is playing.   Any organ builders wishing to be placed on the invitation to bid list please submit your application to the home church located at 260 Wits' End Lane, DeFuniak Springs, Florida 32435.   Cheerfully,   Glenda Sutton (whose leg is still black and blue, but who went to look at Sportsters with her husband today)            
(back) Subject: Re: An Off-Topic Choral Concert Posting From: "Alan Freed" <afreed3036@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 17:48:37 -0800 (PST)   yes, please, Malcolm   Alan afreed3036@yahoo.com   new, but temporary, address   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: High church trends are springing up all over . . . From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 21:10:54 EST     --part1_ab.18a5f5e6.29c5552e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Had to finish the communion wine today, did we??? ;-)   sounds like a wonderful place.     Bruce Cornely < Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres and meet the Baskerbeagles: Duncan, Miles, Molly & = Dewi < http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 + http://prepaidlegal.com/go/brucecornely >   --part1_ab.18a5f5e6.29c5552e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Had to finish the = communion wine today, did we??? &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>sounds like a wonderful place. <BR> <BR> <BR> Bruce Cornely &lt; Cremona502@cs.com &gt;<I> </I> <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres <I>&nbsp;</I>and meet the Baskerbeagles: = &nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi <BR>&lt; http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 + = http://prepaidlegal.com/go/brucecornely &nbsp;&gt;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_ab.18a5f5e6.29c5552e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: High church trends are springing up all over . . . From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 21:16:30 -0500   Hi Glenda, I just need to make a couple of points here if I may:   1. Let's not have this Sportster talk. You need a big block, period. If = the transmission is not separate from the engine, then you really cannot be a righteous biker chick.   2. With all due respect to Rick (never mess with a biker dude's chick), = you may be the world's most perfect woman. Your taste in motorcycles, musical instruments, liturgical ideas, and clothing fashion have me swooning. = What's more, as a lawyer, you can pretty much go forth and command money, and it will appear. I would happily become the Tammy Faye to your Jim Baker = should you decide to go ahead and incorporate your new church. (should Rick allow it peacefully--I have no talent for rumbling).   3. Our musical tastes seem to run parallel. Bach to The Stones. How do you feel about Steppenwolf?   4. If there were a pipe organ in every biker bar, the world would indeed = be a better place.   Thanks for the Saturday night cruise Glenda. I really did need to feel the wind in what's left of my hair.   Mike (whose vintage 1971 Honda CL175 is poor credential, but I have a Boss Hoss 502 on order)   Glenda wrote:   > My husband and I are starting a church, the Reformed Church of the > Redeemed Harley Hogs. The creed and doctrines will conform closely to > the Articles of Religion of 1801. The services will consist of > high-church paraphernalia, complete with vestments and only pipe organ > music (except on Rogation Days, when Debussy, Chopin and Beethoven will > be allowed on the piano). The vestments will of course be altered > slightly with some minor leather detailing, and bishops will wear > "do-rags" and tool belts in lieu of mitres and croziers. At least one > Bach organ piece will be required at each service. The > homilist/preacher will be expected to preach fundamentalist hell, fire > and damnation sermons of no longer than ten minutes in duration, with > sufficient pauses for members to shout "hallelujah" or "good grief" as > indicated. Instead of sherry after church, we will swill beer laced > with whiskey (no sherry or scotch will be allowed on premises). At > funerals and weddings we will play "You can't always get what you want" > of Rolling Stones' fame, of course in a tasteful organ arrangement. > > Only the finest pipe organs will be built to match the specifications of > our architecturally refined and acoustically superior sanctuaries, which > will match the finest cathedrals of the world for beauty - the only > difference is that there will be space to park the bikes inside the back > of the church, and the main and side aisles will be wider so that the > members can ride their bikes during the Stations of the Cross and the > annual Blessing of the Bikes. No motorcycle ignitions will be idling or > running during any time that the organ is playing. > > Any organ builders wishing to be placed on the invitation to bid list > please submit your application to the home church located at 260 Wits' > End Lane, DeFuniak Springs, Florida 32435. > > Cheerfully, > > Glenda Sutton (whose leg is still black and blue, but who went to look > at Sportsters with her husband today) > >    
(back) Subject: worst organ From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 14:41:00 +1200   Probably the worst organ I've played is in St Stephen's Presbyterian, = Lower Hutt, New Zealand, an hour's drive from where I now live. The church seats about 150, and has an 8rk Christie ex-theatre organ in it, all on high pressure and all enclosed except a few Diapason pipes and 1-12 of the Bourdon. Grossly loud and nasty. GREAT 16 8 8 8 4 4 8 SWELL 16 8 8 8 8 4 4 2 8 PEDAL 32 16 8 8 Worse than it looks: the Tibia is at 32 Resultant, 16 & 8 on the Pedal, 16 = 8 4 on the Great, 16 8 4 2 on the Swell. Great reed is a grossly-orchestral Clarinet. Horn is actually marked Tuba = on the pipes. Strings scratchy and very loud. Great Dulciana a noisy and scratchy Dulciana. Swell Violin Diapason at 8 & 4 is an exceptionally = harsh and very loud rank. The whole thing is abominable. Double-touch cancelling stop keys, so unless you're very careful, pushing one stopkey down will = put everything else in the organ off. The Open Diapason 8 4 on the Great is a very very loud and noisy honk with no clarity and very high cut-up - it = had been leathered originally. Shamblesd up (down?) from its original theatre organ state to its present one by Monk & Gunther of England in about 1957, the wretched machine is still in very good order indeed, sadly. At least someone has added a nice small Chimney Flute 8ft to the Swell = now. Ken Griffin's playing wasn't bad, but his instrument was revolting in the extreme. Just that endless tremulous whining. But I keep a couple of 10" lp's for the laugh of it. Ross      
(back) Subject: Re: Ken Griffin From: <Wurlibird1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 22:13:08 EST   Steve Ohmer asks:   >but I'll never >forget Griffin.... Hammond, right? <<   Mostly, but "You Can't Be True, Dear" and his very early recordings were = on a Wurlitzer with a Leslie.   Best wishes, Jim Pitts  
(back) Subject: Re: High church trends are springing up all over . . . From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 23:20:23 -0500   Black & Blue Legs are a strange fetish turn on to me. Red & Yellow ones are better, IMHO. The Ken Griffin Saint- Saens III is a musical gift that the organ world = will forever apprereciate. Critics acclaimed the definitive Lawrence Welk with organ recording...   I'm listening to Arlo Guthrie's "Motorcicle Song"   Stan   > > Any organ builders wishing to be placed on the invitation to bid list > > please submit your application to the home church located at 260 Wits' > > End Lane, DeFuniak Springs, Florida 32435. > > > > Cheerfully, > > > > Glenda Sutton (whose leg is still black and blue, but who went to look > > at Sportsters with her husband today)        
(back) Subject: The French Connection From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 23:51:22 -0500   Good evening, I am listening to a rather generic CD tonight that I got as part of a larger collection. It is called "Organ Extravaganza". It has no liner notes with it. The CD label is called "Adventures in Music" and it says "Compilation 1991 Buys, Inc." at the bottom. The CD is identified as AIM-021. Track 6 is titled "The French Connection Grand Choeur Dialogue" Can anybody help me to identify the piece, and if possible, the organ on which it was played. The pedal has some of the strongest, yet most clearly recorded 32' reeds I have ever heard. The piece is very familiar, but with my limited education in organ literature, I can't identify it. It is obviously a dialog between the main organ and an echo or positive.   Thanks in advance Mike    
(back) Subject: engaging and disengaging... From: <MFoxy9795@aol.com> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 23:55:47 EST   I thought I had a sub organist gig for tomorrow. It had been arranged back=20= in early February with the choir director from a church which is at quite a=20= distance from me, where I have never been before. Based on this conversation= , I had the date, Mar. 17, written in my planner. =20   Since i had not heard from the choir director since then, I called her this=20= morning. She said she had totally forgotten about engaging me for tomorrow=20= and apologetically said she had engaged someone else. After a moment of sho= cked silence, I mentioned that I had passed up other gigs and wondered about= whether or what I would be paid. She said she understood my position altho= ugh the church could not pay two organists. She then suggested she dismantl= e her arrangement with the other organist, and I protested that that would n= ot be fair to this other organist. We left it that the arrangement with the= other organist would stand, and she would get back to me about what if anyt= hing they would pay me.   This was at 9:30 this morning. Shortly after that, I left the house, was ou= t all day, and did not get back until 11 p.m. I had two phone messages and a= n e-mail from her from about 11 this morning to say she had talked to the ot= her organist, who said she did not mind not playing, and could we go back to= our original plan, since they could not afford two organists!!! She has ev= idently told the other organist not to play even though she had not discusse= d it with me in the meantime!   I sent her an e-mail saying that it was too late to call her back and too la= te to go back to the original arrangement. After all, if I had known I was=20= going to play, I would have gone over hymns, made sure I turned in at a reas= onable hour, and gotten directions to the church, at the very least.=20   It sounds like a clever attempt to not have to pay for two organists.   What say ye list members?   Merry Foxworth   =B4=A8=A8)) -:=A6:- =B8.=B7=B4 =B7=B4=A8=A8)) ((=B8=B8.=B7=B4 ..=B7=B4 -:=A6:-=20   http://ibo.bww.com/foxworth password: foxy   An excerpt from Robert Giddings "Musical Quotes and Anecdotes", published in Longman Pocket Companions:=20 "There let the pealing organ blow,=20 To the full-voiced choir below,=20 In service high, and anthems clear,=20 As may with sweetness, through mine ear,=20 Dissolve me into ecstasies,=20 And bring all Heav'n before mine eyes".=20 John Milton - Il Penseroso (1632).=20        
(back) Subject: Terminology From: "David Carter" <david_n_carter@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 05:01:25   Good Evening Pipechatters - I have been on the pipechat list for almost two years, and I thoroughly enjoy reading the posts from folks worldwide concerning my favorite = musical instrument.   My query to the list tonight is: could someone explain, or perhaps point = me to a website, the definitions of terms such as: chancel, gallery, narthex, =   "west-end", etc. This will help me visualize when these terms are used in reference to organ location, etc.   Since I am LDS, allow me to share the similar terms used in our church: Chapel: The space where our main Sunday worship (known as Sacrament = Meeting is held Stand: Located at the front of the chapel, usually raised 18" to 24", = where the organ and piano are situated, where the choir sits, where the Ward Bishop and his counselors sit, and also the sacrament table, where the = bread and water are placed. Cultural Hall: a large room, usually with a basketball court and stage, where dinners, parties and other gatherings are held.   David Carter Sacramento, CA Currently, the land of screwy weather. They predicted a huge storm for = this weekend, so far we've only had a small amount of rain last night. Since it =   didn't rain today, I had to mow the lawn, which I haven't had to do for 18 =   years. I've lived in apartments for 17 years, just moved into a real = house, with a lawn, real garage, and lots (relatively speaking) of space for all the STUFF my wife and I have accumulated in the 10.5 years of our = marriage.   _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at = http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.    
(back) Subject: Re: The French Connection From: "Pat Maimone" <patmai@juno.com> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 00:17:36 -0500   Dear Mike Sounds like you are listening to Eugene Gigout's "Grand Choeur Dialogue" Hope that another list member will be able to track down l'orgue du jour.   Greetings to you and all Pipechatters, Pat Maimone, who is looking forward to playing the Lutheran service at the Old Cadet Chapel, West Point later this Sunday morning, and producing Bach's 317th Birthday celebration in the same location.   ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.  
(back) Subject: Re: engaging and disengaging... From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 00:31:02 -0500   Please forgive my blunt reply Merry, but it seems like yet another = temp organist situation that would have gone smoother had you insisted on = a faxed or mailed letter of intent from that Choir Director when you were = engaged in February. Written verification of future remuneration is a = modern reality in any profession these days. Gone, are the handshake over = the phone times. I suppose it boils down to how much you really want the money, whether = future work at that church is important to you, and if the attitude of the = choir director concerning your references within the local organ community = is of concern to you. If so, go and play, do your best, get paid, protect = your reputation, and catch a nap tomorrow afternoon.   Mike the Niteowl         MFoxy9795@aol.com wrote:   > I thought I had a sub organist gig for tomorrow. It had been arranged = back in early February with the choir director from a church which is at = quite a distance from me, where I have never been before. Based on this = conversation, I had the date, Mar. 17, written in my planner. > > Since i had not heard from the choir director since then, I called her = this morning. She said she had totally forgotten about engaging me for = tomorrow and apologetically said she had engaged someone else. After a = moment of shocked silence, I mentioned that I had passed up other gigs and = wondered about whether or what I would be paid. She said she understood = my position although the church could not pay two organists. She then = suggested she dismantle her arrangement with the other organist, and I = protested that that would not be fair to this other organist. We left it = that the arrangement with the other organist would stand, and she would = get back to me about what if anything they would pay me. > > This was at 9:30 this morning. Shortly after that, I left the house, = was out all day, and did not get back until 11 p.m. I had two phone = messages and an e-mail from her from about 11 this morning to say she had = talked to the other organist, who said she did not mind not playing, and = could we go back to our original plan, since they could not afford two = organists!!! She has evidently told the other organist not to play even = though she had not discussed it with me in the meantime! > > I sent her an e-mail saying that it was too late to call her back and = too late to go back to the original arrangement. After all, if I had = known I was going to play, I would have gone over hymns, made sure I = turned in at a reasonable hour, and gotten directions to the church, at = the very least. > > It sounds like a clever attempt to not have to pay for two organists. > > What say ye list members? > > Merry Foxworth > > =B4=A8=A8)) -:=A6:- > =B8.=B7=B4 =B7=B4=A8=A8)) > ((=B8=B8.=B7=B4 ..=B7=B4 -:=A6:- > > http://ibo.bww.com/foxworth > password: foxy > > An excerpt from Robert Giddings "Musical Quotes and Anecdotes", > published in Longman Pocket Companions: > "There let the pealing organ blow, > To the full-voiced choir below, > In service high, and anthems clear, > As may with sweetness, through mine ear, > Dissolve me into ecstasies, > And bring all Heav'n before mine eyes". > John Milton - Il Penseroso (1632). > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org