PipeChat Digest #2878 - Thursday, May 30, 2002
 
Pallet pulling magnets
  by "Jerome TAILLANDIER" <taillandier_j@hotmail.com>
Re: Food and organ CDs
  by "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
The rest of the known world
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
RE: Food and organ CDs
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
Re: Food and organ CDs
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: buffalo new york
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Corpus Christi (The Body and Blood of Christ)- Thursday, May 30th -  X-po
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Food and organ CDs
  by "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com>
Re: Pallet pulling magnets
  by "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com>
spanish organs/reeds
  by "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com>
Re: spanish organs/reeds
  by "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net>
Re: Food and organ CDs
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: oops.
  by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Re: oops.
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com>
RE: What motivation drives one in his "job"?
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
(no subject)
  by "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@msn.com>
RE: Food and organ CDs
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
Re: Hello to all
  by <Wurlibird1@aol.com>
RE: Food and organ CDs
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Organ Concerts
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re:
  by "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com>
St. Andrew's, New Orleans
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Felix Hell's 250th concert, Portland OR, 6/20
  by <DMillerRodgers@aol.com>
RE: Food and organ CDs(off topic)
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
 

(back) Subject: Pallet pulling magnets From: "Jerome TAILLANDIER" <taillandier_j@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:12:46 +0200   Dear list,   I am currently for the ideal lever magnet that would pull down the rectangular pallets of my old mechanical tracker organ.   The pallets are 20 mm long and there are 3 widths : 10, 15 and 20 mm. The pressure is rather low (the instrument is made for a "small" room), = and there are 3 ranks of flues controlled by a row of pallets.   Here is the result of my investigations regarding providers in Europe : Kimber-Allen, Laukhuff.   Here my questions :   * do I need the heavy-duty models for 10, 15 & 20 mm-wide pallets ? * do people use lower-power lever magnets for small pallets or do I need = the heavy-duty one ? * what model would you suggest ? for what price ?   Thanks a lot for your help. J Taillandier   _________________________________________________________________ Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Food and organ CDs From: "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:12:51 +0100   Howdie (or whatever colonials say) - and I know it's none of my business (other than you've put the information on my PC) ..   While I admire your taste in music, I have but two questions about the cuisine. 1) Surely the time that you take the meal determines the name given to it; therefore Dinner - about 7 to 8 ish, and Supper - any time after 10 = pm. (or when you return from the Theatre or Concert Hall ? 2) What the heck is "cooking spray" ? Is it something to keep the flies away ?   Harry (musicman) Grove   -----Original Message----- From: Glenda <gksjd85@direcway.com> To: 'PipeChat' <pipechat@pipechat.org>; PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu <PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu> Date: 30 May 2002 02:34 Subject: Food and organ CDs     " I decided that we had gone without dinner (that's supper in the South) long enough. "   " I took 4 beautifully lean smoked pork chops and placed them in a small roasting pan sprayed with cooking spray. "      
(back) Subject: The rest of the known world From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:19:22 +0100     Hello,   I think I could have safely predicted the discussion concerning Spanish = Trompettas!   However, I know that Italy is a modern, civilised country. It occurs to me that:-   a) We never hear of Italian Orgnists (Except Germani of course)   b) We never hear of new Italian made organs in Italy   c) We never hear of Italian organ composers (Except Bossi and the = Baroque masters)   d) We never discuss Italian instruments   e) We don't seem to have any members in Italy   Is it all pasta, wine and Rosaries? I need to know because I am = planning a recital tour there if they have any organs....no fee! I just = want feeding!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK        
(back) Subject: RE: Food and organ CDs From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:41:11 +0100   Hello again,   I DO apologise for my fellow countryman's remarks concerning the = "colonies".   I had an American partner for a while, and I too was bemused by "cooking = spray". It is oil in a spray can......and if you hit the flame with it, = it gets quite exciting, but not so good as Hair Spray.   I expect that a well aimed shot of cooking spray could probably bring = down moths and flies.....their wings would stick together.   Glenda may like to make a wonderful ornament at the cooker.Take some = frozen "crinkle cuts" and open a bottle of wine, the CD player set to = Bach Trio Sonatas. Place the frozen items in the oven and light the = gas.Then drink the wine and fall asleep for 5 hours. Wake up to find = flashing lights and the house surrounded by men in uniform.   Take out the crinkle cut ornaments....now beautifully crafted black = carbon which shine like industrial diamonds. Spray with furniture polish and place in a cut-glass bowl.=20   Some people call it art!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK (a division of USA enterprises)          
(back) Subject: Re: Food and organ CDs From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 08:15:58 -0400   On 5/30/02 6:12 AM, "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> wrote:   > Howdie (or whatever colonials say) - and I know it's none of my business > (other than you've put the information on my PC) .. > > While I admire your taste in music, I have but two questions about the > cuisine. > 1) Surely the time that you take the meal determines the name given = to > it; therefore Dinner - about 7 to 8 ish,   I agree with you on supper. But you'd better sit down to dinner by 6 if you're going to make the 8 o'clock curtain or overture.   > and Supper - any time after 10 pm.   Alan      
(back) Subject: Re: buffalo new york From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 08:44:13 EDT     --part1_141.f2fe056.2a27789d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/30/02 1:43:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gblack@ocslink.com writes:     > HI list, Can anyone tell me if there is a descent organ in any of the = United > Methodist Churches in Buffalo or any other church for that matter. = Thanks.   Holy Trinity Lutheran Church in Buffalo James Bigham, Organist-Choirmaster   --part1_141.f2fe056.2a27789d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 5/30/02 1:43:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gblack@ocslink.com writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">HI list, Can = anyone tell me if there is a descent organ in any of the United<BR> Methodist Churches in Buffalo or any other church for that matter.&nbsp; = Thanks</BLOCKQUOTE>.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Holy Trinity = Lutheran Church in Buffalo<BR> James Bigham, Organist-Choirmaster</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_141.f2fe056.2a27789d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Corpus Christi (The Body and Blood of Christ)- Thursday, May 30th - X-posted From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 07:22:35 -0700   St. Matthew's Anglican Catholic Church 2300 Ford Road (at Bonita Canyon & Prairie Roads) Newport Beach CA USA   Sung Mass at 9:30 a.m.   Voluntary - Adoro Te - Everett Titcomb Introit - Cibavit eos - Dr. Willan Setting - Merbecke/Scottish Chant Gradual - Oculi omnium - Dr. Willan Alleluia - Caro mea - Dr. Willan (Sequence omitted - no choir present) Offertory - Sacerdotes Domini - Dr. Willan Communion - Quotiescumque - Gregorian, Mode 7 Hymn - Now, My Tongue, the Mystery Telling - St. Thomas   No grand procession or Benediction ... just me and the usual Thursday morning congregation ... plus a few determined anglo-catholics who WILL get this feast on the map at St. Matthew's EVENTUALLY (grin).   Cheers,   Bud  
(back) Subject: Re: Food and organ CDs From: "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 09:26:44 -0500   Dear Music Man (and listers):   Around here Dinner is at Noon, and Supper is anytime after 5pm. If it's after Midnite, it becomes Breakfast, which is good until about 10 am, and from then till Noon is "Brunch". We do mix breakfast and lunch, but never lunch with supper...or dinner...that would be something like Lupper, Dunch, Linner, etc.   Cooking spray is something that you won't find on my pantry shelf. But mostly its Soy Lecithin in a spray can. I keep a couple of pump bottles near the stove with different kinds of olive oil, and sometimes soy oil or peanut oil. Just depends on my cooking mood.   Best wishes to the "Islands"....     Jon Bertschinger  
(back) Subject: Re: Pallet pulling magnets From: "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 09:28:01 -0500   Matters Inc. Also makes a large pallet magnet. You might check with them on their "power" They are much less expensive that those from Laukhuff.     Jon Bertschinger  
(back) Subject: spanish organs/reeds From: "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 09:34:12 -0500   Listers not familiar with organ construction need to understand that the old Spanish organs were on very low wind pressures. While the reeds seem to have a lot of "snap" to them, the tone is very much unforced. The reason for the quality of sound, is that the reed tongues are much thinner than those used in other parts of Northern Europe....and especially in the UK and USA. Reeds were for color, not for power, but their use in the flue choruses added so much dimension tonally, that it was seen as "powerful" sound...when in fact it is not.   hope this might answer a few questions.   Jon Bertschinger Tonal Director Temple Organs Saint Joseph, MO (North Kansas City area)  
(back) Subject: Re: spanish organs/reeds From: "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:45:50 -0400   Larry Phelps once told me that you also have to understand that these reeds are right in your face, and tend to record a little hotter and be hotter than the average reed that might be buried in a case so they do have a presence beyond that of the average low pressure reed.   noel jones moderator, rodgers organ users group www.frogmusic.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Food and organ CDs From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:15:25 -0400   Dear Ones,   When I moved to Canada in the 60s, I confronted a most unusual meal nomenclature. After an evening ORGAN RECITAL (on topic, see?), there would be an announcement to the effect that the Choir Guild was providing a "little lunch" in the Great Hall. We're talking something like 10 p.m.! = That usage was almost universal, though possibly only in that part of Ontario. The word "lunch" also did serve for the noonday meal, when it wasn't = dinner, that is!! There is no confusion about the fact that I had breakfast a = while ago!   Cheers,   Malcolm   ----- Original Message ----- From: "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:26 AM Subject: Re: Food and organ CDs     > Dear Music Man (and listers): > > Around here Dinner is at Noon, and Supper is anytime after 5pm. > If it's after Midnite, it becomes Breakfast, which is good until > about 10 am, and from then till Noon is "Brunch". We do mix > breakfast and lunch, but never lunch with supper...or > dinner...that would be something like Lupper, Dunch, Linner, etc. > > Cooking spray is something that you won't find on my pantry > shelf. But mostly its Soy Lecithin in a spray can. I keep a > couple of pump bottles near the stove with different kinds of > olive oil, and sometimes > soy oil or peanut oil. Just depends on my cooking mood. > > Best wishes to the "Islands".... > > > Jon Bertschinger > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: oops. From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:14:04 -0500   At 09:18 PM 5/29/02 -0500, you wrote: >Dear listers: sorry about my very first post to the list..It was >really intended as a prvt message to Glenda. Now you know what >I'm doing for the 4th of July though. > >Jon   Hope you're prepared for 500 party crashers...sounds like a bash...   jch    
(back) Subject: Re: oops. From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:39:20 -0400       jch wrote: > > At 09:18 PM 5/29/02 -0500, you wrote: > >Dear listers: sorry about my very first post to the list..It was > >really intended as a prvt message to Glenda. Now you know what > >I'm doing for the 4th of July though. > > > >Jon > > Hope you're prepared for 500 party crashers...sounds like a bash... > > jch   ...and right after the end of the OHS Convention. "OHS 2002 Afterglow" has a nice ring to it..   Stan    
(back) Subject: RE: What motivation drives one in his "job"? From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:49:44 -0400   >He'd have remained happy (well, marginally satisfied) with his = (admittedly lousy) teacher's salary? And he'd rather be a custodian at higher pay = than a teacher at lower pay, so long as didn't know about the (disgusting) discrepancy? He's happier now? Because of the money?   You know, it is also possible that he had a family to support. If his commitment to them were more profound even than to his profession, can we not understand this? It isn't as though, now he's a janitor, he's ready = to run out and buy himself a Ferrari.   Furthermore, in his case, obviously the gesture created considerable publicity. Maybe it caused politicians and voters to re-examine their priorities, if only to avoid becoming a laughing-stock of the whole = region, and to make adjustments. If that was the result, or even the intended result, it could be said to be the act of a man very committed to his profession, even if it meant his leaving it and being outside looking in left him personally miserable.   This argument about commitment or lack thereof as a 'gotcha' to justify chronically niggardly renumeration and to walk all over the finest people = in the world (many of ourselves included) makes me rather angry. Please re-read the humorous wedding music memo from "Miss Rockefeller Gates". = She used the same manipulative argument to walk all over the musicians and explain why they were getting paid about 1/7 of what the florist was. So, at least subliminally, did Governor Brown in California in the early = 1970s, who suddenly discovered something he called "psychic benefits" in college teaching to justify treating his university faculty singularly shabbily. Yeah, there are psychic benefits. But why else do you think they've put = up with the prevailing pay for centuries? How much more mileage can you get out of that line?   When I was little, my father worked in the payroll department of a mill. = He already had bought a house. I was pretty young then, but I don't = remember, in those days, any financial worries. Those began when he decided to go into teaching. He sold the house, and we could mostly live off the hump while he spent two years in graduate school. Then, when he found his = first teaching job, we shuttled back and forth a fifty-mile trip moving all our belongings ourselves with a utility trailer into a rented apartment. = Hiring a moving company was out of the question. It was the same two years later (more like a 200-mile distance this time) when he decided upon another = job. The pay in this case was even worse, but there were psychic benefits, chiefly a culturally richer community for my sister and me to grow up in. Every time we saw a car towing a small trailer, we said, "There goes a teacher!"   Piano lessons were $2-$3 a week, and didn't fit easily into the budget at that. The biggest gift I ever received in my whole childhood was a = bicycle at age 9. I remember bouncing into a record store with Mom once at age = 10, and I fell in love at first sight (and hearing-- you could listen before = you bought back then) with a Richard Purvis album that, had we bought it, = would have enlarged my record collection from three to four. After much agonizing, we walked out again empty handed. We couldn't spare the $4.79. They didn't become homeowners again until I was 14, and that was only because it was small if historic, the price was a whole $13,900, and she = had gone back to work, too.   It was a good life, thanks to commitment and psychic benefits. But that isn't to say that it couldn't, and shouldn't by rights, have been a little better.  
(back) Subject: From: "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@msn.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:15:07 -0500   Hi--Does anyone have any hints on how to remove the heads from Moller drawknobs? Something to soften the glue, these aren't the screw-on kind. Thanks, Bill      
(back) Subject: RE: Food and organ CDs From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 12:30:21 -0400   >Around here Dinner is at Noon, and Supper is anytime after 5pm.   So it always was on Grandpa's farm in Wisconsin, and thus in our house-- although with us the noonday meal tended to be such a thrown-together, = hasty affair that it hardly qualified for the term. I don't know if that was because Grandpa lived on a farm, where one works hard all day and must eat well to do so, or because he was German. Don't the Germans, too, usually eat more heartily at mid-day than in the evening? And the evening meal is not only light but relatively early. A German will probably tell you that feasting late and then just sitting around for a couple hours before going to bed wouldn't be particularly healthful, and he'll be correct. (I bet = few of us eat much just before playing a recital, especially if tricky repertoire like Bach or Reger is on the program. Too full a stomach wouldn't be authentic :-)   >If it's after Midnite, it becomes Breakfast, which is good until >about 10 am, and from then till Noon is "Brunch".   An etiquette authority (probably Emily Post) has objected to the word "brunch" as a breezy, lazy neologism suggesting a repast likely to satisfy no one. For most, it will in fact be the first meal of the day, otherwise why would anyone bother to show up? So, she suggests that it should continue to be called breakfast. "Brunch" is an obvious compromise, and often as rushed as its conflated name, whereas a generous, late breakfast sounds extraordinarily laid-back and gracious. This advice may be dated, but my humble opinion is still all in agreement.          
(back) Subject: Re: Hello to all From: <Wurlibird1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 12:49:29 EDT   Hi Jon, and welcome to the list. Its normally a civil bunch with just a = tad of sibling rivalry from time to time. You wrote under "Oops"   >I have a commercial range in my kitchen....big 3 well sink too. >6 burners 20,000 btu ea. >2 ovens 18,000 btu ea >and a 24" griddle with salamander below (3 burners at 20,000 btu >ea) >each and every burner has a pilot lite. <<   Obviously the central cause of global warming? ;-)   Glad to have your expertise on board. Please share with us from your knowledge.   Best wishes, Jim Pitts      
(back) Subject: RE: Food and organ CDs From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 12:21:12 -0500   Short off-topic reply - in the traditional "old" South the term "dinner" refers to the midday meal, i.e., lunch, as much as it does the evening meal, i.e., supper; hence the reference in my original post.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Organ Concerts From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:49:44 -0400   Anyone in the Worcester MA area on Thursdays at lunchtime is invited to hear a free pipe organ concert at St. Paul's Cathedral, 10 Chatham St. Organist is Ian Watson, who is presenting a half-hour of organ music starting at 12:50pm every Thursday, summer included. The first three concerts have included music by JS Bach, Vivaldi/Bach, an Elgar Sonata, = and Reger. The public is invited.   Also at St. Paul's Cathedral, Worcester MA on Sunday June 9 at 4pm is a concert featuring the St. Paul's Cathedral Choir and Brass Ensemble, with Conductor Ian Watson, and Organist Joseph Policelli. Admission is free. Works by Purcell, Tallis, Palestrina, Gabrieli, Faure, Durufle, Elgar and Stanford.  
(back) Subject: Re: From: "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 17:19:01 -0500   I don't know of anything to "soften" the glue. Depending upon how old, it may just be a hide glue of some sort, and simply "prying" carefully would make them pop off.   Good luck.   jon bertschinger  
(back) Subject: St. Andrew's, New Orleans From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 18:09:02 -0500   Well, I nominate Roy to go check it out for us and report back.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Roy Redman   I understand that the church organist bought a 1920's or so Odell and installed it himself; with some help from church members. Roy Redman        
(back) Subject: Felix Hell's 250th concert, Portland OR, 6/20 From: <DMillerRodgers@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 19:31:25 EDT   Concert announcement:   FELIX HELL 16-year-old virtuoso organist IN CONCERT   Thursday, June 20, 7:30 PM at Rose City Park United Methodist Church 5830 NE Alameda, Portland, Oregon   No admission charge, freewill offering only. Felix will perform on the Rodgers 4-Manual Touring Organ.   This concert celebrates Felix's 250th career concert! Please join us for this special event!    
(back) Subject: RE: Food and organ CDs(off topic) From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 18:37:40 -0500   A few appropriate quotes or paraphrases:   (1) Don't ever cook with wine unless it is drinkable. C.P.E. Bach, Riesling Spatburgunder Bruts sans Sifflotes I Have Known.   (2) If it is good wine, why waste it cooking with it? Better to drink it while cooking. Virgil Fox, What I Did on My Summer Vacation with a Pair of Organ Shoes and a Small Diapason.   (3) Just have the kid cut into fine steaks, braise him lightly, then seal him in the biggest Mason jar you can find and ship him here. C. B. Ball, Canning with Your Larigots and Bombardes.   (4) Cooking spray adds no fat, cholesterol or sodium, and comes in a butter and olive oil variety of flavors. It's only used to keep the meat from sticking to the pan until the real cooking starts. Glenda Sutton, My Night with Arnold Schwarzenegger at Wanamaker's.   What music shall I serve tonight? Maybe a little Simon Preston at Westminster, laced with a cabernet or a merlot?   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com (doing weird and violent things to sirloin round with a mallet and a touch of rosemary)