PipeChat Digest #2879 - Friday, May 31, 2002
 
Re: What motivation drives one in his "job"?
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Pallet pulling magnets
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Food and organ CDs
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Education
  by "brad" <brade@uslink.net>
Education
  by "brad" <brade@uslink.net>
Education
  by "brad" <brade@uslink.net>
Education
  by "brad" <brade@uslink.net>
Re: Education
  by "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com>
Re: Education
  by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org>
 

(back) Subject: Re: What motivation drives one in his "job"? From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 20:39:07 -0400   On 5/30/02 11:49 AM, "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> wrote:   >> He'd have remained happy (well, marginally satisfied) with his = (admittedly >> lousy) teacher's salary? And he'd rather be a custodian at higher pay = than >> a teacher at lower pay, so long as didn't know about the (disgusting) >> discrepancy? He's happier now? Because of the money? > > You know, it is also possible that he had a family to support. If his > commitment to them were more profound even than to his profession, can = we > not understand this? It isn't as though, now he's a janitor, he's ready = to > run out and buy himself a Ferrari.   Good point, Paul. I have to agree with you. First things first. (Although--and this is the nastiest thing I can possibly say--Should a man and woman plan a family without first planning a way to support it?) [Please: It's obvious that YOUR parents did indeed plan carefully.] > > Furthermore, in his case, obviously the gesture created considerable > publicity. Maybe it caused politicians and voters to re-examine their > priorities, if only to avoid becoming a laughing-stock of the whole = region, > and to make adjustments. If that was the result, or even the intended > result, it could be said to be the act of a man very committed to his > profession, even if it meant his leaving it and being outside looking in > left him personally miserable.   ANOTHER good point. I'm listening to you! > > This argument about commitment or lack thereof as a 'gotcha' to justify > chronically niggardly renumeration and to walk all over the finest = people in > the world (many of ourselves included) makes me rather angry. Please > re-read the humorous wedding music memo from "Miss Rockefeller Gates". = She > used the same manipulative argument to walk all over the musicians and > explain why they were getting paid about 1/7 of what the florist was.   I enjoyed that post, too. And for the same reasons.   > So, at least subliminally, did Governor Brown in California in the early > 1902s who suddenly discovered something he called "psychic benefits" in > college teaching to justify treating his university faculty singularly > shabbily. Yeah, there are psychic benefits. But why else do you think > they've > put up with the prevailing pay for centuries? How much more = mileage > can you get out of that line? > > When I was little, my father worked in the payroll department of a mill. = He > already had bought a house. I was pretty young then, but I don't = remember, > in those days, any financial worries. Those began when he decided to go > into teaching. He sold the house, and we could mostly live off the hump > while he spent two years in graduate school. Then, when he found his = first > teaching job, we shuttled back and forth a fifty-mile trip moving all = our > belongings ourselves with a utility trailer into a rented apartment. = Hiring > a moving company was out of the question.   (I remember that, too. Very well indeed.)   > It was the same two years later (more like a 200-mile distance this = time) when > he decided upon another job. The pay in this case was even worse, but = there > were psychic benefits, chiefly a culturally richer community for my = sister and > me to grow up in. Every time we saw a car towing a small trailer, we = said, > "There goes a teacher!" > > Piano lessons were $2-$3 a week, and didn't fit easily into the budget = at > that. The biggest gift I ever received in my whole childhood was a = bicycle > at age 9.   I had to wait until 11-1/2; it was used, of course, at $32.50. I NEVER = had a "new" bike.   > I remember bouncing into a record store with Mom once at age 10, > and I fell in love at first sight (and hearing-- you could listen before = you > bought back then) with a Richard Purvis album that, had we bought it, = would > have enlarged my record collection from three to four. After much > agonizing, we walked out again empty handed. We couldn't spare the = $4.79. > They didn't become homeowners again until I was 14, and that was only > because it was small if historic, the price was a whole $13,900, and she = had > gone back to work, too. > > It was a good life, thanks to commitment and psychic benefits. But that > isn't to say that it couldn't, and shouldn't by rights, have been a = little > better.   Paul, I think we've had a good exchange. Certainly instructive for me. Perhaps for you, too. And I've enjoyed it. I thank you very much!   With VERY warm regards,   Alan      
(back) Subject: Re: Pallet pulling magnets From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 19:52:23 -0500   While I am a supporter opf using an electro-pneumatic system rather than just solenoids to pull down the pallets in slider chests, I would suggest that the best ones currently available are those supplied by Otto Heuss = and Co. in Germany. You might try asking them for advice on the best type and size to use in your particular situation. See their website at http://www.ottoheuss.de/   John Speller   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerome TAILLANDIER" <taillandier_j@hotmail.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:12 AM Subject: Pallet pulling magnets     > Dear list, > > I am currently for the ideal lever magnet that would pull down the > rectangular pallets of my old mechanical tracker organ. > > The pallets are 20 mm long and there are 3 widths : 10, 15 and 20 mm. > The pressure is rather low (the instrument is made for a "small" room), and > there are 3 ranks of flues controlled by a row of pallets. > > Here is the result of my investigations regarding providers in Europe : > Kimber-Allen, Laukhuff. > > Here my questions : > > * do I need the heavy-duty models for 10, 15 & 20 mm-wide pallets ? > * do people use lower-power lever magnets for small pallets or do I need the > heavy-duty one ? > * what model would you suggest ? for what price ? > > Thanks a lot for your help. > J Taillandier > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Food and organ CDs From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:24:46 -0400   On 5/30/02 12:30 PM, "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> wrote:   > For most, it will in fact be the first meal of the day, otherwise > why would anyone bother to show up? So, she suggests that it should > continue to be called breakfast. "Brunch" is an obvious compromise, and > often as rushed as its conflated name, whereas a generous, late = breakfast > sounds extraordinarily laid-back and gracious. This advice may be = dated, > but my humble opinion is still all in agreement. > In tons of NYC "better" places to dine, "brunch" begins between 12 or = 12:30 p.m. I protest. Brunch might begin at 10 (or possibly 9), and must continue until 1 p.m. Or thereabouts.   Narrow-mnded Alan    
(back) Subject: Education From: "brad" <brade@uslink.net> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:47:43 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0043_01C20823.A0EA9180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   As long as we are discussing education, does anyone have first hand =3D knowledge of the San Francisco Conservatory of Music and its organ =3D program?   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0043_01C20823.A0EA9180 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>As long as we are discussing = education, =3D does anyone=3D20 have first hand knowledge of the San Francisco Conservatory of Music and = =3D its=3D20 organ program?</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0043_01C20823.A0EA9180--    
(back) Subject: Education From: "brad" <brade@uslink.net> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:47:43 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0043_01C20823.A0EA9180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   As long as we are discussing education, does anyone have first hand =3D knowledge of the San Francisco Conservatory of Music and its organ =3D program?   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0043_01C20823.A0EA9180 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>As long as we are discussing = education, =3D does anyone=3D20 have first hand knowledge of the San Francisco Conservatory of Music and = =3D its=3D20 organ program?</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0043_01C20823.A0EA9180--    
(back) Subject: Education From: "brad" <brade@uslink.net> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:51:19 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_004E_01C20824.218C8FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   As long as we are discussing education, does anyone have any knowledge =3D of the San Francisco Conservatory of Music and its organ program?   ------=3D_NextPart_000_004E_01C20824.218C8FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>As long as we are discussing = education, =3D does anyone=3D20 have&nbsp;any knowledge of the San Francisco Conservatory of Music and =3D its organ=3D20 program?</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_004E_01C20824.218C8FA0--    
(back) Subject: Education From: "brad" <brade@uslink.net> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:51:43 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0060_01C20824.2FAFF220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   As long as we are discussing education, does anyone have any knowledge =3D of the San Francisco Conservatory of Music and its organ program?   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0060_01C20824.2FAFF220 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>As long as we are discussing = education, =3D does anyone=3D20 have&nbsp;any knowledge of the San Francisco Conservatory of Music and =3D its organ=3D20 program?</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0060_01C20824.2FAFF220--    
(back) Subject: Re: Education From: "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 22:06:53 -0500   Dear listers: I received the same mesage 4 times...just with two different time stamps. Is this usual?   thanks.   jon bertschinger  
(back) Subject: Re: Education From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 22:34:38 -0500   No not usual...but messages will double if you do a <reply to all> instead =   of a <reply>...and if for some reason he did a reply twice you would get four messages...two each with the same time stamp. Guess he wanted to make =   sure we got his question or whatever it was?   jch     At 10:06 PM 5/30/02 -0500, you wrote: >Dear listers: I received the same mesage 4 times...just with two >different time stamps. Is this usual? > >thanks. > >jon bertschinger > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org