PipeChat Digest #3209 - Monday, November 4, 2002
 
Evensong, 10/6/02
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
Question regarding Pedelsons from a non-member
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: Question regarding Pedelsons from a non-member
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: Question regarding Pedelsons from a non-member
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Welcome to Joseph Patelson Music House
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@optonline.net>
Organist Position, north Cincinnati area
  by "Bob K." <rkinner@one.net>
Planning?
  by "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com>
Re: Question regarding Pedelsons from a non-member
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Sign on an organ in a chapel
  by "Paul R. Swank" <prswank@surfbest.net>
Re: Sign on an organ in a chapel
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Re: Defending NYC Organists
  by "John Mackey" <johnmackey@mindspring.com>
Re: Defending NYC Organists
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Evensong, 10/6/02 From: "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 06:24:25 -0500   Here's a report of a service I played last month, with some = less-than-usual music.   I took a Sunday morning off, which was nice- a little more time to gut the kitchen. Sunday evening, though, I played an Evensong at St. John's Episcopal in Williamstown, MA, with my favorite singer, a soprano with a wide repertory from the most demanding Baroque through spirituals and, obviously, 20th century song. The small congregation (a beautiful fall afternoon was strong competition) was most appreciative of the meditative atmosphere and dealt well with the dissonance of the Ives songs. The Gospel reading and sermon were on Salome and the head of John the Baptist; had the minister not said not to worry about matching music to readings, I might have attempted an organ version of the Strauss- not that the organ would really do it justice.   Prelude: "Beach Spring", "Land of Rest" Wilbur Held "Simple Song" from "Mass" Leonard Bernstein Hymn: 686, "Nettleton" Psalm: 145:1-9, S. 408 Response: "Religion" Charles Ives Magnificat: S. 242 Offertory: "To Make a Prairie" Ronald Perera Hymn: 580, "Holy Manna" Postlude: "Shall We Gather at the River" Charles Ives "Holy Manna" Paul Hamill   The organ is a scratchy II/8 Moller from 1968, so all the songs were on = the piano. I love the text of "Religion": "There is no unbelief. Day by day = and night by night, the heart lives by faith the lips deny. God knows the = why". It ends with a pianissimo quote of the first phrase of "Nearer, My God, to Thee" in the piano- very effective, but only works at an liberal intellectual church like St. James. The Baptists just wouldn't get it. The "Holy Manna" setting by Paul Hamill is from the Berkshire Organ Book; intended as an alternate harmonization, I've always found it a little busy for congregational accompaniment. Played very slowly on full organ, it = made a wonderful, harmonically wrenching conclusion.   After the service, I crawled up through a tiny access hole and wormed around under a chest with about 2' clearance over the access hole to tune one flute pipe that had slipped since the organ was tuned a week ago. The light was a little scary- a drop-light on the end of a long cloth-covered cord that appears to be original with the church (ca. 1889). Fortunately, no fire resulted!     Paul Opel   http://www.sover.net/~popel/agomain.html      
(back) Subject: Question regarding Pedelsons from a non-member From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 06:00:02 -0600   The following question was sent to the Administration account by a non-member reading the Archives. If you can help her out please reply to her directly - address at the bottom of the post.   Thanks   David   ********************************************************* >Hi! I read your post at >http://www.pipechat.org/archives/1999/june/digest931.html about buying >printed music in NY and saw that Pedelsons was recommended. I'm trying to >find them on the Web and haven't been successful. Do you know if they have >an email address? Did you ever go there? How do I contact them? I'm >looking for some out of print music. Thanks. > >--Mindy <HealingWaters@EssencesOnline.com> > -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Question regarding Pedelsons from a non-member From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:52:08 EST     --part1_3d.2706d037.2af68408_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I am from the Chicago area and was an NYC over the summer. I spent about = 300 bucks there! I did take a business card-I think....I will check later, I = am on my way to church. It is a nice store in Manhattan. Maybe call = directory assistance or email the president or board member or any member of the NYC =   AGO chapter. Try emailing the organists of St. Thomas or St. Pat's- I'm sure one of them will know exactly where it is. You might alsol email Juilliard or the Manhattan School of Music. What out of print stuf are = you searching for? I will be curious to learn whether or not any of these = ideas worked. When in NYC, I found most of the organists I met to be rather = rude and nasty compared to ones in Chicago. Good luck, Gregory   --part1_3d.2706d037.2af68408_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>I am from the Chicago = area and was an NYC over the summer. &nbsp;I spent about 300 bucks there! = &nbsp;I did take a business card-I think....I will check later, I am on my = way to church. &nbsp;It is a nice store in Manhattan. &nbsp;Maybe call = directory assistance or email the president or board member or <B>any</B> = member of the NYC AGO chapter. &nbsp;Try emailing the organists of St. = Thomas or St. Pat's- &nbsp;I'm sure one of them will know exactly where it = is. &nbsp;You might alsol email Juilliard or the Manhattan School of = Music. &nbsp;What out of print stuf are you searching for? &nbsp;I will be = curious to learn whether or not any of these ideas worked. &nbsp;When in = NYC, I found most of the organists I met to be rather rude and nasty = compared to ones in Chicago. <BR>Good luck, <BR>Gregory</FONT></HTML>   --part1_3d.2706d037.2af68408_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Question regarding Pedelsons from a non-member From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 09:46:38 -0500   David, I don't know. But spell the name PATELSON (I think) for better = luck.   Alan   On 11/3/02 7:00 AM, "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> wrote:   > The following question was sent to the Administration account by a > non-member reading the Archives. If you can help her out please > reply to her directly - address at the bottom of the post. > > Thanks > > David > > ********************************************************* >> Hi! I read your post at >> http://www.pipechat.org/archives/1999/june/digest931.html about buying >> printed music in NY and saw that Pedelsons was recommended. I'm trying > to >> find them on the Web and haven't been successful. Do you know if they > have >> an email address? Did you ever go there? How do I contact them? I'm >> looking for some out of print music. Thanks. >> >> --Mindy <HealingWaters@EssencesOnline.com> >>    
(back) Subject: Welcome to Joseph Patelson Music House From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@optonline.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 09:54:00 -0500     http://www.patelson.com/ -- Jungian Type: INTJ      
(back) Subject: Organist Position, north Cincinnati area From: "Bob K." <rkinner@one.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 11:48:27 -0500   Disciples Christian Chuch in Hamilton, OH, is seeking an organist whose duites would include: a Sunday morning worship service at 9:30 a.m.; Wednesday choir rehersal at 7:00 p.m.; and additional seasonal services. Salary negotiable. The church has an Allen 301C (two manual) organ with eight ranks of pipes added. The church is loacted in Fairfield Township (Butler County) and is easily accessable from I75, via the SR129 connector, and SR 4, via the RT 4 bypass.   For more information, contact: Lynn Adams 513-733-0553 (home), 513-313-4204 (cell) BigBlueLynnie@aol.com   or   Disciples Christian Church 3401 Hamilton-Mason Rd. Hamilton, OH 45011 513-863-2200 -- "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." Mahatma Gandhi        
(back) Subject: Planning? From: "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 17:59:38 -0500   Does anyone know of a web-based resource for liturgy planning using the Pilgrim AND New Century Hymnals? Thanks for any responses. -- David G. Baker    
(back) Subject: Re: Question regarding Pedelsons from a non-member From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 18:28:13 -0500   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --B_3119192894_3898628 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   On 11/3/02 8:52 AM, "Gfc234@aol.com" <Gfc234@aol.com> wrote:   > I am from the Chicago area and was an NYC over the summer. I spent = about=3D 300 > bucks there! =3D20 >=3D20 > =3D80=3D80=3D80Wait. You were =3DB3[i]n NYC over the summer and = spent=3DB2 only =3DB3about 300 b=3D ucks > there!=3DB2??? You must=3DB9ve slept in the park and eaten out of I = hate to gues=3D s > what containers. Next time, give me a call. I DO have a guest room. = 71=3D 8 884 > 1893 >=3D20 > <snip>=3D20 >=3D20 > When in NYC, I found most of the organists I met to be rather rude and = na=3D sty > compared to ones in Chicago. >=3D20 > =3D80=3D80=3D80Well, Gregory, that=3DB9s because you=3DB9re comparing us = with the nicest folk=3D s on > the continent. A friend of mind, John Sherer at Fourth Presbyterian, = Chi=3D cago, > is the nicest man on earth. And do they come finer than Cantor Frank = St=3D oldt > at Saint Luke=3DB9s Lutheran up north in Chicago? >=3D20 > But seriously, the three most prominent (and with good reason) Lutheran > organists in New York City are Richard Erickson at Holy Trinity, Tom = Schm=3D idt > at Saint Peter=3DB9s; and Pedro d=3DB9Aquino at Saint Luke=3DB9s (no = particular order=3D ). > Every one a prince of a man, gracious, generous, and musically superb. = (=3D Most, > if not all, straight, if that matters to you.) I know a few Anglican > organists (but only a VERY few), and they are delightful folks, too. = Tra=3D fka > at St. Bart=3DB9s and Gerre Hancock at St. Thomas (them=3DB9s prime = benches, Babe=3D !) > have displayed exceptional graciousness to me and mine on more than one > occasion, including, in at least one case, a bar in Chelsea). I (with = NO > credentials) have taken visiting organists (with, likewise, NO = credential=3D s; > even teenagers!) from Europe and America to Gerry Hancock and asked to = be > given an hour on the new Taylor and Boody=3D8Band not only granted that = grace=3D , but > he himself took us up there and explained things and just =3DB3just gave = us o=3D ur > head=3DB2 to do whatever we wanted). I don=3DB9t know Dorothy Uptown = Papadokis, =3D but I > here she=3DB9s a sweetheart as well. Don=3DB9t know Kent Tritle at St. = Iggy=3DB9s ei=3D ther, > but I=3DB9ve heard nothing but excellent reports on him, as a person and = as a > musician. >=3D20 > Alan, defending the City=3DB9s organist folks >=3D20 > I=3DB9m sure there are exceptions, so I=3DB9m not calling you a liar. = (But=3D8Boff l=3D ist > only?=3D8BI=3DB9d be glad to hear more or otherwise.) >=3D20 >=3D20 >=3D20     --B_3119192894_3898628 Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: Question regarding Pedelsons from a non-member</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">On 11/3/02 8:52 AM, = &quot;Gfc234@aol.com&quot;=3D &lt;Gfc234@aol.com&gt; wrote:<BR> <BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">I am from the Chicago = area =3D and was an NYC over the summer. &nbsp;I spent about 300 bucks there! = &nbsp;<=3D BR> <BR> =3D80=3D80=3D80Wait. &nbsp;You were &#8220;[i]n NYC over the summer and = spent&#8221; on=3D ly &#8220;about 300 bucks there!&#8221;??? &nbsp;You must&#8217;ve slept = in =3D the park and eaten out of I hate to guess what containers. &nbsp;Next = time, =3D give me a call. &nbsp;I DO have a guest room. &nbsp;718 884 1893<BR> <BR> &lt;snip&gt; <BR> <BR> When in NYC, I found most of the organists I met to be rather rude and = nast=3D y compared to ones in Chicago. <BR> <BR> =3D80=3D80=3D80Well, Gregory, that&#8217;s because you&#8217;re comparing = us with the n=3D icest folks on the continent. &nbsp;A friend of mind, John Sherer at = Fourth =3D Presbyterian, Chicago, is the nicest man on earth. &nbsp;&nbsp;And do they = c=3D ome finer than Cantor Frank Stoldt at Saint Luke&#8217;s Lutheran up north = i=3D n Chicago? &nbsp;<BR> <BR> But seriously, the three most prominent (and with good reason) Lutheran org=3D anists in New York City are Richard Erickson at Holy Trinity, Tom Schmidt = at=3D Saint Peter&#8217;s; and Pedro d&#8217;Aquino at Saint Luke&#8217;s (no = par=3D ticular order). &nbsp;Every one a prince of a man, gracious, generous, and = m=3D usically superb. &nbsp;(Most, if not all, straight, if that matters to = you.)=3D &nbsp;I know a few Anglican organists (but only a VERY few), and they are = d=3D elightful folks, too. &nbsp;Trafka at St. Bart&#8217;s and Gerre Hancock = at =3D St. Thomas (them&#8217;s prime benches, Babe!) have displayed exceptional = gr=3D aciousness to me and mine on more than one occasion, including, in at = least =3D one case, a bar in Chelsea). &nbsp;I (with NO credentials) have taken = visiti=3D ng organists (with, likewise, NO credentials; even teenagers!) from Europe = a=3D nd America to Gerry Hancock and asked to be given an hour on the new = Taylor =3D and Boody&#8212;and not only granted that grace, but he himself took us up = t=3D here and explained things and just &#8220;just gave us our head&#8221; to = do=3D whatever we wanted). &nbsp;I don&#8217;t know Dorothy Uptown Papadokis, = but=3D I here she&#8217;s a sweetheart as well. &nbsp;Don&#8217;t know Kent = Tritle=3D at St. Iggy&#8217;s either, but I&#8217;ve heard nothing but excellent = repo=3D rts on him, as a person and as a musician.<BR> <BR> Alan, defending the City&#8217;s organist folks<BR> <BR> I&#8217;m sure there are exceptions, so I&#8217;m not calling you a liar. = &=3D nbsp;(But&#8212;off list only?&#8212;I&#8217;d be glad to hear more or = other=3D wise.)<BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman"><BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT> </BODY> </HTML>     --B_3119192894_3898628--    
(back) Subject: Sign on an organ in a chapel From: "Paul R. Swank" <prswank@surfbest.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 17:46:46 -0500   Hi, I visited my old church from fifty years ago this afternoon, and went into =   the chapel (the old church building) as I was waiting for events to occur.   On the organ was a sign that I copied for posterity:   "Please do not use this organ without permission from the Chapel = Committee, the Music & Worship Committee, and the Church Office. Thank You. This organ is very old and may be damaged very easily even by accident."   The sign was on an Allen Model T-12 from about 1960. (Not the original organ which had been an old Estey pipe organ when I was there.)   While I was looking at the sign, the chairman of the Chapel Committee came =   into the chapel and said to me to please play the organ because it would = be so nice to hear it.   Naturally, I did not, since I didn't want to break it even by accident. Har Har Har.   Paul R. Swank Organist/Choirmaster (Retired after more than 35 years).    
(back) Subject: Re: Sign on an organ in a chapel From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 18:21:44 -0600   "Paul R. Swank" wrote: > Hi, > I visited my old church from fifty years ago this afternoon, and went = into > the chapel > On the organ was a sign <snip> > "Please do not use this organ <it> is very old and may be damaged > very = easily even by accident."   <snip>   > While I was looking at the sign, the chairman of the Chapel Committee = came > into the chapel and said to me to please play the organ because it would = be > so nice to hear it. > Naturally, I did not, since I didn't want to break it even by > accident.   That was MEAN. You should have asked to have the sign either modified or removed, since that was obviously the correct person to do that.   Not that the organ was worth playing, but it was STILL mean!   -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Pipe Organ Builders 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL mailto:arp@starband.net SHOP SATELLITE EMAIL mailto:arpschneider@starband.net HOME OFFICE EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com WEB PAGE URL    
(back) Subject: Re: Defending NYC Organists From: "John Mackey" <johnmackey@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 21:32:16 -0500       Alan Freed wrote: > > On 11/3/02 8:52 AM, "Gfc234@aol.com" <Gfc234@aol.com> wrote: > > > > When in NYC, I found most of the organists I met to be > rather rude and nasty compared to ones in Chicago. > > I was born & raised in NYC and, have been aware of our (NEW YORKERS)"somewhat exaggerated" stereotype as being rude, cold, aloof etc... however, I must relate a story or two regarding my own personal experiences. Having moved from Manhattan to connecticut, I joined a Choir in Norwalk, Ct. (St. Pauls's Anglican). Our lovely choir director decided to move back to Ohio so... As chairman of the music committee, I decided to give her a farewell party in NYC which included some serious "church hopping". Well, It took only a few phone calls to secure "bench time" at St. Bart's, SMV, St. Paul's Chapel, Columbia U & Transfig. (all Episcopal Churches!!!) Three Kick a__ Skinners & a Fisk!! All of the "Incumbents" were most gracious (and this was on a Sunday!!) Our Dear choir director left for Ohio with a wonderful memory of our day in NY thanks to some AWESOME ORGANISTS!!! I have many other experiences which speck of the kindness and generosity of NYC organists. I think that most of them realize how fortunate they are to have custody of exceptional instruments and, enjoy sharing them. Anyway, I am one grateful "organ Nut". THREE CHEERS FOR NYC ORGANISTS!!!!!   John Mackey  
(back) Subject: Re: Defending NYC Organists From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 00:05:31 EST     --part1_10c.19f55748.2af75a1b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   The ones I have met in NY were wonderful. I haven't met many, but those I =   have were very personable. Of course, Alan is my favorite (but I don't = think he is a working organist, however we did play piano and organ duets, with = him on the piano). Lee   --part1_10c.19f55748.2af75a1b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>The ones I have met in = NY were wonderful. &nbsp;I haven't met many, but those I have were very = personable. &nbsp;Of course, Alan is my favorite (but I don't think he is = a working organist, however we did play piano and organ duets, with him on = the piano). &nbsp;Lee</FONT></HTML>   --part1_10c.19f55748.2af75a1b_boundary--