PipeChat Digest #3223 - Tuesday, November 12, 2002
 
Re: brief postludes
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: brief postludes
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: RE:Erzhaler
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Erzahler
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: brief postludes
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: brief postludes
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: brief postludes
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: brief postludes
  by "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>
Re: Organ Shoes, (formerly Cameron Carpenter concert)
  by "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: brief postludes From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:36:28 +1300   Not trying to start a thread here, but surprise is sometimes the thing to catch parishioners with. Recently I played that glorious little Fugue in C by Pachelbel, the one with the endless repeated C's everywhere. Just 8 & 2ft, no Pedal except for the final note. Got good comments, too.   Ross -----Original Message----- From: Randolph Runyon <runyonr@muohio.edu> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:32 PM Subject: Re: brief postludes     >on 11/11/02 11:40 PM, Ross & Lynda Wards at TheShieling@xtra.co.nz wrote: > >>> (since there's no point in playing after everyone has already left)? >> >> Randy, there are two points I'd make here - >> 1. If this is an offering of yours to God, it is worth playing whether the >> people leave before you have finished or not. >> 2. If you enjoy playing the organ, and also that particular piece, then it >> is not wasted either. >> >> Heavens, thank God you have an organ to play, and the opportunity. = Here, >> where we have a foul 10-yr-old 2-manual Allen, my two comments above = very >> much apply to me. When I get my home eventually finished, I'll be = playing >> for those two reasons only, 98% of the time - but do hope that visiting >> friends might enjoy a bit of music, too. >> >> If music-making is a chore without getting undivided attention and applause >> for it, it's time to quit making it in the Church at least. >> >> Ross > >Hi, Ross. Your points are well taken. I suppose I blush to say it, but = my >favorite time to play the organ is when nobody is there, especially at >night. Like this evening, when I had a lovely hour and a half after I >brought my son to orchestra practice across the street. Just heavenly. = I >am blessed with a dandy instrument (Moller 1934) that sounds French = enough >to me. I played Langlais's Cantilene from the Suite Breve, the Prelude from >the Pieces de Fantaisie of Vierne, and an arrangement of Ravel's Pavane pour >une infante defunte that I was finally able to make sense of by = completely >abandoning the registrations given in the score and exploiting what my >instrument has to offer: the melody on a vox humana on the swell, >accompanied by an unda maris on the choir; with the harp introduced = where, >if memory serves, it is played in the orchestral version. I've had to = play >enough Allens in my life, including one from circa 1974 that just made me >quit that job after six years. They do sound better now, at least. > >But is it somehow more for the glory of God on late Sunday morning after >everyone has left than on Monday night where there's no one there? > >I still would like to see a list of razzle-dazzle postludes that get = their >point across in about four minutes, though. > > >Randy Runyon >Music Director >Zion Lutheran Church >Hamilton, Ohio >runyonr@muohio.edu > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: brief postludes From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:08:41 EST     --part1_cc.14e9610c.2b01e6d9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Bach/Orgelbuchlein:   If Thou But Suffer God to Guide Thee   Dale G. Rider, MSM, CAGO Organist/Director of Music Ministries First Baptist Church (American) Kansas City, Missouri Volunteer Staff Organist Community of Christ Auditorium & Temple Independence, Missouri   --part1_cc.14e9610c.2b01e6d9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Bach/Orgelbuchlein:<BR> <BR> If Thou But Suffer God to Guide Thee<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Book Antiqua" LANG=3D"0">Dale G. Rider, = </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D1 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Book Antiqua" LANG=3D"0"><I>MSM, = CAGO<BR> </I>Organist/Director of Music Ministries<BR> First Baptist Church (American)<BR> Kansas City, Missouri<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Volunteer Staff = Organist<BR> <B><I>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Community of = Christ</B></I> Auditorium &amp; Temple<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Independence, = Missouri</FONT></HTML>   --part1_cc.14e9610c.2b01e6d9_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: RE:Erzhaler From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:14:18 -0600   A search of the National Pipe Organ Register came up with two Erzahlers in the United Kingdom. One on the Solo division of the organ at St. Ninian's Cathedral, Perth. The other on the Great of the residence organ of Mr. H. Ravenscroft-Richards, of Harborne, Birmingham.   John Speller   ----- Original Message ----- From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 6:24 PM Subject: RE:Erzhaler     Hello,   I don't think we have any Erzhalers in the UK.   I thought I was about to die three weeks ago after contracting pneumonia = and crumpling in a heap on the floor. Since then, I have discovered the = musical joys of the Inhaler rather than the Erzhaler.   A set of tuned Inhalers might have real musical credibility in our = climate.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK       "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: Erzahler From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:26:38 -0600   Which just goes to prove that he who pays the piper calls the tune.   John Speller   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Erzahler     > Dear Dennis, > Zahlung means payment. Zahlen is to pay, such as a bill in a > restaurant    
(back) Subject: Re: brief postludes From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:30:29 EST     --part1_de.3029c46b.2b01ebf5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 11/11/02 10:32:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, runyonr@muohio.edu writes:     > I still would like to see a list of razzle-dazzle postludes that get = their > point across in about four minutes, though. >   Although I personally play my postlude through (even after the ushers have =   turned out the lights and the sextor has locked the doors and shut off the =   AC), there are so many great pieces of literature that can be judiciously edited (or you can just have your page-turner flip the switch when the = room is empty).   Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 check out <A = HREF=3D"http://www.visionsuccess.com/BC2053">Vision Success </A>       --part1_de.3029c46b.2b01ebf5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 11/11/02 10:32:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, runyonr@muohio.edu writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I still would like = to see a list of razzle-dazzle postludes that get their <BR>point across in about four minutes, though. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Although I personally play my postlude through (even after the ushers = have turned out the lights and the sextor has locked the doors and shut = off the AC), there are so many great pieces of literature that can be = judiciously edited (or you can just have your page-turner flip the switch = when the room is empty). <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;check out &nbsp;&nbsp;<A = HREF=3D"http://www.visionsuccess.com/BC2053">Vision Success </A> <BR> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_de.3029c46b.2b01ebf5_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: brief postludes From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 01:22:20 EST     --part1_127.1a535af3.2b01f81c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   There are also Pachelbel preludes that sound "big" that are short and = almost sight-readable.   --part1_127.1a535af3.2b01f81c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>There are also = Pachelbel preludes that sound "big" that are short and almost = sight-readable.</FONT></HTML>   --part1_127.1a535af3.2b01f81c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: brief postludes From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 01:27:12 EST     --part1_15e.16e9301f.2b01f940_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   that one is too much work to be talked over--hahahahahah the pedal exercitum by bach is a favorite of many at my church-they always =   watch my feet...   --part1_15e.16e9301f.2b01f940_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>that one is too much = work to be talked over--hahahahahah <BR>the pedal exercitum by bach is a favorite of many at my church-they = always watch my feet...</FONT></HTML>   --part1_15e.16e9301f.2b01f940_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: brief postludes From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:58:14 -0000   A couple of suggestions - both from Karg-Elert - one of my favourite composers, always interesting and full of contrasts -   Postludio Festivo (from Sempre Semplice) Op 142 No 12. A kind of Nun = Danket try-out. Shorter and nearly as effective. Fughetta on Herr Jesu Christ. (from 20 Preludes and postludes) Op 78 No 9. Short and to the point - a crashing Allargando at the end. This set of 20 is full of good things.   Bruce Miles     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:23 AM Subject: brief postludes     > on 11/11/02 8:53 PM, Emmons, Paul at pemmons@wcupa.edu wrote: > > > I doubt that getting people to stay and listen quietly to a postlude = is a > > battle at all worth fighting; in fact I doubt that it is liturgically > > defensible to insist upon it. The blessing and dismissal have already been > > given, right? ... So, don't > > waste masterpieces like the great Bach fugues as ordinary-Sunday postludes. > > There is plenty of other repertoire that is magnificent and fitting while > > being somewhat coarser-grained, so that those who do want to = appreciate it > > can do so even through a certain amount of distraction. > > Can we come up with a list of sound-and-fury postludes that don't last very > long (since there's no point in playing after everyone has already = left)? > Like, for example, Gigout's toccata in b minor. > > > Randy Runyon > Music Director > Zion Lutheran Church > Hamilton, Ohio > runyonr@muohio.edu > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Shoes, (formerly Cameron Carpenter concert) From: "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:54:21 -0600   for higher heels, try cowboy boots or those italian dress boots.?   I have an old pair of loafers with the heel seam split out (they are about 3 sizes smaller than I wear, as I have really wide feet). Once a kindly woman at a church offered to get them repaired for me. I explained to her that it had taken me about 10 years to get them this way, and they were comfortable <G>.   just a couple of pennies........     jon bertschinger